Glad to see you more enthusiastic than ever Izzy. Having you seen go through your back surgery a few years ago and you are back to new normal and always making something unique for the maker community is just heartwarming. You are one of my inspirations as a 70-year-old having gone through back surgery 10 years back but rehabilitated to getting back to my DIY shop to make many woodworking projects I enjoy. Greetings from NC
Even having a track saw for on-location work, what a fantastic tool this is for working large pieces in the shop. Most shops I've been in have a rolling table to butt up against the saw to cut plywood. But this is actually better, because having the legs separate, leaves room to move the boards forward without leaning, which is usually how it goes. Here, you just walk forward in between the legs to make the cut more stable. VERY nice work. Thanks to Jay for the idea, and you for the adaptation!
I almost have enough money for a track saw...been saving for years now....HOWEVER, I think this is a better choice for me. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate you!
Hey this works pre cut and an outfeed table too. You could also do something like this for the left side of the table for long parts kind of like a sliding table saw. Ive cut 4x8 sheets of 3/4" mdf each sheet is about 80 lbs and on a table saw its pretty hard to solo deal with big sheets like that all day long. But one thing i see is it traps the oprator behind the blade, so extreme mesure need to be taken to stop kickback like attaching something to the fence to hold the cut parts to the table with down forces so the part cant ride up off the table, but the desine had made this less a hazard as the parts not going to try to lean back and down from its weight. Lowering the chance of kickback.
I like what you have here, and I will probably build one, but... My chief reason for considering a track saw is that it would minimize tear out by preventing the blade from wiggling while cutting. This also happens when cutting sheet goods on a table saw. I don't know if that is true, but I am curious to try.
Your workshop is the size of a football field, mine is the size of a postage stamp. No way could I function without my track saw and MFT table. but as always your videos are both informative and entertaining.
Now this is a great addition to any table saw and I will be building some soon. I’m also interested in that handle you are using to make handling sheets easier. Where can I find one of those? Thanks for sharing your ideas and techniques, which are always so helpful and I have used a few of them.😊
Izzy this is a great jig but I will still be using a track saw to get one long straight edge at least. Last year we had an entire unit of domestic birch plywood that was deformed like a banana. One long edge was concave 1/8” and the opposite side convex 1/8”. From that point on I have not trusted a “factory edge” to be true enough to reference. The sheets are also never perfectly square so having one reference edge is critical.
I love you man…. This is brilliant!! ❤❤❤. You took this to the next level.. it’s also good to see you so happy 🎉…. Congratulations on your retirement.. 😊
I saw Jay's video when it came out and liked the idea. Your upgrades are great. I see a couple of shelves mounted under the table saw wing to store these when not in use.
Rough cut plywood to near-finish/finish dimensions with a track saw. Make repeated/precise cuts on a tablesaw. If you're not making cabinets and just need a general-purpose saw, get a tracksaw. Both tools are indispensable.
Good one, Izzy … and Jay! Actually, with the lifting add-on, this will make it easier to load the heavy sled onto the table saw. Those with back problems will appreciate having the hinged lift doodad. Thanks!
If you take a cut off grinder to the threads of the bolt and cut 45 into the threads in 2 or 3 places you make yourself a makeshift tap. Pretty helpful for soft materials if you dont have the correct tap. or you need a thread chaser.
Even my 3 car workshop doesn't have room for that outfeed table. A compatible folding outfeed support would make this possible for me and my ancient craftsman table saw. Or I could just cave and buy a track saw.
I feel like there’s an opportunity here to put some o’ those gas struts on the loading bars to make it even easier to lift the weight of the plywood, but I wouldn’t know the best way to design it to be simple to add and easy to use.
IZZY.... I LIKE IT!!! I liked enough that I subscribed to your channel to see what else I can add to my shop. At 75, it's not so easy for me to manhandle a sheet of plywood thru my table saw - and I'm too damn cheap to buy a track-saw. I doubt the nuts will back off the bolts because they're imbedded against the wood, but another alternative would be using nylox nuts....
If only I had a workshop big enough to bring in 8 x 4 sheets. My shop (shed) is 12 x 8, and does include a tablesaw but no room for outfeed tables or wings. Since buying a track saw I use it more often than the tablesaw, a couple of sawhorses outside the shop makes short work of unweildy sheets. 👍
Nice little project. I'm definitely going to have a set. I have a mentor who borrowed many jigs. His versions always ended up fancier, with extra features. Sound familiar?
Wish I have a big workshop like yours. But for most of us home DIYers, our direction is to use track saw to replace the table saw. No space. Also, this design will never kill track saw. I would guess the track saw still cuts much more accurately. And the plywood is still hard to manage with this table extension.
Was looking for exactly that comment. Oh, and my wood butcher takes a buck a cut, so... Yeah, they cut the sheet good, mostly. I still enjoyed the video, I need to build some stuff for the band saw...
Cool build. Forgive me, I'm a wood novice, but you showed a lot of cuts up against the fence. How do you avoid kickback? I know you can make a cut like that, but it seems risky.
Hey, Izzy i've been watch you guys for a few years now. Love what ya'll do. Was wondering about your health status. You've been on our church's prayer list since your back surgery.
Why don’t you just get a wall saw? It fits up against the wall, doesn't take up much space. It is probably the best and easiest solution when cutting sheeting. I have one and it is very accurate and easy to use.
My only question would be: If you have a plywood panel that is slightly bent how do you exert downward pressure, say in the center of the panel when you are four feet away from the saw blade? I suppose you could position a weight on the panel to ensure flatness but that might lead to other problems.
Glad I found your channel, izzy. I was hoping that you were going show a way to cut plywood without a track saw or table saw (why would you need a track saw if you have a good table saw?). But it does look like a great way to deal with large panels on a table saw (if you have one);-)
Izzy & Maggie. I know you guys have retired and we are wishing you guys the very best but inquiring mind really want to know. Whats going to become of your Grabo jigs and accessories product line. I just recently bought your Grabo Vacuum plate and template kits. I was really hoping to be able to buy some of your templates and also one of your Grabo Holders. Are you going to continue making these in limited runs in the future or would you be willing to license them out to the right company that has the where with all to manufacture them under license. I know Betterley tools has reached out to you because the owner mentioned that he had. Im really curious where your Grabo accessories go from here. Hopefully not to the tool graveyard!
What a great idea for wood working. Would you be willing to give an amateur some advice on a build I have in mind. It's an octagon sauna/ rv bugout shelter?
Awesome video, Izzy! Question: Is that Oliver contractor table saw powerful enough to run those 40T Amana electroblu blades you like? The saw is rated 2 HP.
I still don't get the idea behind buying a track saw. I've been in construction my whole life and I just use an 8' rip of plywood with a wooden, screwed on fence. make your 1st cut to size the strip to the saw shoe and you are done. It really is that simple and can be any size at all. Don't get me wrong, i love your tablesaw version but really, I see no need for it at all if you are just sizing sheet goods. They make finish blades for skilsaws it that is the issue.
I could not agree more! Track saws are alright but do not get the same quality cut as the table saw. I always have to cut my parts over size and recut on my table saw. Only reason I use a track saw is simply because I don’t have enough space to run a full sheet through my table saw but when I do have a bigger shop I’m going to make this or something very similar! Nicely done!
I have a tracks off but not a giant every shot over to say hi Miss misunderstanding text size to make straight start time sheet that something very difficult star versus one of them fancy ones with a big ass swing on the whole cemetery. Let me know if I’m wrong message I want to learn.
Just out of curiosity... what is the distance from the wall to the front of the fence on your Bosch Axial Glide? My workbench looks about as deep as yours, flat up against the wall, and I'm contemplating whether that saw is going to stick out too far or if it'll work just fine.
The lower quality video is only on pc while you tube process the 4k version of the video. It should be all set in few minute. It is playing fine on cell phones
It almost looks like a center drill that is typically used for machining, but not an exact match. I can't find anything like it on the internet. I wonder if Izzy modified something like a Kreg bit?
its call a a Viking Vortex bit they are hands down my favorite all around bit. great on metal as well no need to pre drill in metal. I get them from taytools.com
I'm still blown away by right-handed people still using right-blade track saws. These companies clearly aren't "designing"... they are copying. Only one left blade track saw exists (and it's 💩 like everything else that company makes ).
Track saw is still priceless for those of us working in a small garage.
Agreed. Love this idea, but still don’t really have the room to maneuver 4x8 sheets. Track saw probably works better for me.
Agreed. Track saw is essential for a lot of diyers
My thoughts exactly. Also, that does you no good anywhere but in your large shop. Not mobile at all
Track saw is also now becoming legit my favorite tool. I have the makita corded and I can’t believe how quiet it is !
Yeah and a track saw can follow me to the jobsite easily whereas my table saw is not moving, and we all know the usefulness of a jobsite table saw
You Sir are an inspiration for those of us who can't spend hours on our feet anymore. Excellent videos and info too.
I can spend the hours, but why if you don't have too!!
Glad to see you more enthusiastic than ever Izzy. Having you seen go through your back surgery a few years ago and you are back to new normal and always making something unique for the maker community is just heartwarming. You are one of my inspirations as a 70-year-old having gone through back surgery 10 years back but rehabilitated to getting back to my DIY shop to make many woodworking projects I enjoy. Greetings from NC
Even having a track saw for on-location work, what a fantastic tool this is for working large pieces in the shop. Most shops I've been in have a rolling table to butt up against the saw to cut plywood. But this is actually better, because having the legs separate, leaves room to move the boards forward without leaning, which is usually how it goes. Here, you just walk forward in between the legs to make the cut more stable.
VERY nice work. Thanks to Jay for the idea, and you for the adaptation!
you are impressed too easily
@@wizardmaster6639 Meanwhile, you appear to be an absolute joy sponge. 🤡
Fully on board with this jig system, and yes also to noticing & appreciating Jay Bates' version.
I almost have enough money for a track saw...been saving for years now....HOWEVER, I think this is a better choice for me. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate you!
You're such a great teacher! (concise, clear, orderly, creative) Thank you so much!
One of the more BRILLIANT designs I've ever seen. THANK YOU for sharing this. You always have such GREAT ideas for nifty stuff, but this is SUPERB.
Awesome addition to the table saw for plywood maneuverability, I can see it is a must for woodworkers.
Hey this works pre cut and an outfeed table too. You could also do something like this for the left side of the table for long parts kind of like a sliding table saw.
Ive cut 4x8 sheets of 3/4" mdf each sheet is about 80 lbs and on a table saw its pretty hard to solo deal with big sheets like that all day long.
But one thing i see is it traps the oprator behind the blade, so extreme mesure need to be taken to stop kickback like attaching something to the fence to hold the cut parts to the table with down forces so the part cant ride up off the table, but the desine had made this less a hazard as the parts not going to try to lean back and down from its weight. Lowering the chance of kickback.
I really appreciate how you mentioned the differences in other table saws, particularly the Laguna.
Thanks Izzy, cool design. And for those of us that don't have a lot of space another pair can be used as out-feed legs.
Interesting idea good if you have a big shop. I work in the field you can’t beat a track saw for accuracy with precision
This is so cool, I must build one for myself. Your way of presenting it is also very inspiring
I like what you have here, and I will probably build one, but... My chief reason for considering a track saw is that it would minimize tear out by preventing the blade from wiggling while cutting. This also happens when cutting sheet goods on a table saw. I don't know if that is true, but I am curious to try.
Your workshop is the size of a football field, mine is the size of a postage stamp. No way could I function without my track saw and MFT table. but as always your videos are both informative and entertaining.
That there...is exceptionally clever! Well done Izzy!
I have a cardboard box on a Hbr Frt furniture cart that I use as an infeed table - pro tip: put something in the box
Now this is a great addition to any table saw and I will be building some soon. I’m also interested in that handle you are using to make handling sheets easier. Where can I find one of those? Thanks for sharing your ideas and techniques, which are always so helpful and I have used a few of them.😊
You "IZZ" a genius, bro. I need to get this figured out for my Unisaw/Unifence.
Thank you.
Izzy this is a great jig but I will still be using a track saw to get one long straight edge at least. Last year we had an entire unit of domestic birch plywood that was deformed like a banana. One long edge was concave 1/8” and the opposite side convex 1/8”. From that point on I have not trusted a “factory edge” to be true enough to reference. The sheets are also never perfectly square so having one reference edge is critical.
I love you man…. This is brilliant!! ❤❤❤. You took this to the next level.. it’s also good to see you so happy 🎉…. Congratulations on your retirement.. 😊
I saw Jay's video when it came out and liked the idea. Your upgrades are great. I see a couple of shelves mounted under the table saw wing to store these when not in use.
Videos with you making stuff are the best
Rough cut plywood to near-finish/finish dimensions with a track saw. Make repeated/precise cuts on a tablesaw. If you're not making cabinets and just need a general-purpose saw, get a tracksaw. Both tools are indispensable.
Good one, Izzy … and Jay! Actually, with the lifting add-on, this will make it easier to load the heavy sled onto the table saw. Those with back problems will appreciate having the hinged lift doodad. Thanks!
Outstanding Izzy I’ll definitely be making this!
I'm going to take this a step further and make it so it can work with a job saw for both infeeding and outfeeding. Have to give this some thought.
The one thing I like with a track saw is portability.
Just buy an outfeed roller table. Folds up and down. Love mine
If you take a cut off grinder to the threads of the bolt and cut 45 into the threads in 2 or 3 places you make yourself a makeshift tap. Pretty helpful for soft materials if you dont have the correct tap. or you need a thread chaser.
Dang, definitely more than a few times I wished I had a bit more table!!! That’s a really nice idea!
Another cool video,stay well Izzy.
Been a subscriber for awhile now, because you always come up with the greatest jigs! Thanks for this idea and all the ones in the past!
Sweet tool.
Thankyou for sharing...absolutely genius
Even my 3 car workshop doesn't have room for that outfeed table. A compatible folding outfeed support would make this possible for me and my ancient craftsman table saw. Or I could just cave and buy a track saw.
As an extension of the idea could you make the legs swing out of the way when not in use, it will give you more room to work in.
I feel like there’s an opportunity here to put some o’ those gas struts on the loading bars to make it even easier to lift the weight of the plywood, but I wouldn’t know the best way to design it to be simple to add and easy to use.
0:36 @shopnation and I would have visited you to do the bunk bed dance
any ideas on putting them on an outfeed table for taking the larger panels off
great build i got trracksaw as i dont have the space. Take care
Ideas like this make me wish I'd have gone with the Sawstop Cabinet saw over the Jobsite :( Awesome vid!
It's a great idea assuming I can get a 4x8 sheet in my car to get home
Aware of Izzy's mobility issues I can just hear him shout to the gawds "Ha! You can slow me down but you can't stop me!"
IZZY.... I LIKE IT!!! I liked enough that I subscribed to your channel to see what else I can add to my shop. At 75, it's not so easy for me to manhandle a sheet of plywood thru my table saw - and I'm too damn cheap to buy a track-saw. I doubt the nuts will back off the bolts because they're imbedded against the wood, but another alternative would be using nylox nuts....
If only I had a workshop big enough to bring in 8 x 4 sheets. My shop (shed) is 12 x 8, and does include a tablesaw but no room for outfeed tables or wings. Since buying a track saw I use it more often than the tablesaw, a couple of sawhorses outside the shop makes short work of unweildy sheets. 👍
A Kreg Rip-Cut Cheap, Small, works.
Nice little project. I'm definitely going to have a set. I have a mentor who borrowed many jigs. His versions always ended up fancier, with extra features. Sound familiar?
very clever idea !!!!
looks like i need to build this this, and i'd like to know what the heck was the tool used to grab the surface of the plywood
No body tells me to NOT buy tools😂
I really like this, well done.
Wish I have a big workshop like yours. But for most of us home DIYers, our direction is to use track saw to replace the table saw. No space.
Also, this design will never kill track saw. I would guess the track saw still cuts much more accurately. And the plywood is still hard to manage with this table extension.
Was looking for exactly that comment.
Oh, and my wood butcher takes a buck a cut, so... Yeah, they cut the sheet good, mostly.
I still enjoyed the video, I need to build some stuff for the band saw...
Cool build. Forgive me, I'm a wood novice, but you showed a lot of cuts up against the fence. How do you avoid kickback? I know you can make a cut like that, but it seems risky.
Hey, Izzy i've been watch you guys for a few years now. Love what ya'll do. Was wondering about your health status. You've been on our church's prayer list since your back surgery.
Hi Anthony , thank you. Still fighing back issues but other than being in a little pain and over weight doing pretty good.
@@izzyswan still keeping ya'll in our prayers
That's a great idea, now if I could only afford the plywood.
Why don’t you just get a wall saw? It fits up against the wall, doesn't take up much space. It is probably the best and easiest solution when cutting sheeting. I have one and it is very accurate and easy to use.
Excellent idea!!
My only question would be: If you have a plywood panel that is slightly bent how do you exert downward pressure, say in the center of the panel when you are four feet away from the saw blade? I suppose you could position a weight on the panel to ensure flatness but that might lead to other problems.
Glad I found your channel, izzy. I was hoping that you were going show a way to cut plywood without a track saw or table saw (why would you need a track saw if you have a good table saw?). But it does look like a great way to deal with large panels on a table saw (if you have one);-)
Excellently done, !
5/30/23 is this video new-you look good hope you feel good god bless!
Nothing like a boy and his new toy! That will keep him occupied for a while! LOL
this is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that is a Nice Thing!
Izzy & Maggie. I know you guys have retired and we are wishing you guys the very best but inquiring mind really want to know. Whats going to become of your Grabo jigs and accessories product line. I just recently bought your Grabo Vacuum plate and template kits. I was really hoping to be able to buy some of your templates and also one of your Grabo Holders. Are you going to continue making these in limited runs in the future or would you be willing to license them out to the right company that has the where with all to manufacture them under license. I know Betterley tools has reached out to you because the owner mentioned that he had. Im really curious where your Grabo accessories go from here. Hopefully not to the tool graveyard!
We are working with Grabo and a digital fabrication company to keep the products comming
@@izzyswan THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!! Please keep us updated!
What a great idea for wood working. Would you be willing to give an amateur some advice on a build I have in mind. It's an octagon sauna/ rv bugout shelter?
what is the suction device that you put on top of the plywood?
Ok that's freekin cool!!!!!
Smart but works great but only if you have the room to feed a full sheet.
Brilliant
What table saw are you using with a built in router table?
How do I fold this alternative and put it in my chest?
Question for you in general Izzy. When you pre-drill holes, do you use regular bits, or those ones with the chamfer on them?
Great video! (and channel!). Love how you mounted the miter saw - which model is that??
Nice, but it doesn't solve the issue of using the factory edge.
Awesome video, Izzy!
Question:
Is that Oliver contractor table saw powerful enough to run those 40T Amana electroblu blades you like? The saw is rated 2 HP.
I still don't get the idea behind buying a track saw. I've been in construction my whole life and I just use an 8' rip of plywood with a wooden, screwed on fence. make your 1st cut to size the strip to the saw shoe and you are done. It really is that simple and can be any size at all.
Don't get me wrong, i love your tablesaw version but really, I see no need for it at all if you are just sizing sheet goods. They make finish blades for skilsaws it that is the issue.
Awesome!
Looks great! How is your back?
Great!
I could not agree more! Track saws are alright but do not get the same quality cut as the table saw. I always have to cut my parts over size and recut on my table saw. Only reason I use a track saw is simply because I don’t have enough space to run a full sheet through my table saw but when I do have a bigger shop I’m going to make this or something very similar! Nicely done!
Izzy, can this be attached to a Ridgid tablesaw or modify for a contractor tablesaw, thanks Izzy
I have a tracks off but not a giant every shot over to say hi Miss misunderstanding text size to make straight start time sheet that something very difficult star versus one of them fancy ones with a big ass swing on the whole cemetery. Let me know if I’m wrong message I want to learn.
floppy and in your case, small too she said while giving us that smile..did you catch that?
i like it
What if you don't have a table saw?
Just out of curiosity... what is the distance from the wall to the front of the fence on your Bosch Axial Glide?
My workbench looks about as deep as yours, flat up against the wall, and I'm contemplating whether that saw is going to stick out too far or if it'll work just fine.
Did we just become best friends? Yep!
You give me a "We got McDonald's at home" vibe
For some reason I only have 360p resolution to choose from and on a 4k large oled monitor it does not look so good. :)
The lower quality video is only on pc while you tube process the 4k version of the video. It should be all set in few minute. It is playing fine on cell phones
Dumb question... Why didn't you I use the OneFinity to cut our the legs?
Assuming having a table saw.
good idea but with no table saw still need a track saw.
What's that drill bit a 3:25? Anything special? Looks to have a brad point and a steeper angle than standard
It almost looks like a center drill that is typically used for machining, but not an exact match. I can't find anything like it on the internet. I wonder if Izzy modified something like a Kreg bit?
its call a a Viking Vortex bit they are hands down my favorite all around bit. great on metal as well no need to pre drill in metal. I get them from taytools.com
I love this concept. However I’m constantly needing to cut down 4x8 sheets of .25” brass.
This does not replace a track saw by any means! A track saw has certain purposes. All you did was create a larger infeed for your table saw.
I'm still blown away by right-handed people still using right-blade track saws.
These companies clearly aren't "designing"... they are copying.
Only one left blade track saw exists (and it's 💩 like everything else that company makes ).
This is - BY FAR - my favorite jig you've done to date! 👍