I'll never forget when I went to EVO Japan to play GBVS and after hours of standing around waiting for matches in pools and no-shows, I was matched with the same person I was ranting about the heat (the condensation on the glass and the "mist"...), the crowd, and the lack of casual setups. When we traded wins and I eventually came out ahead, I told him "which one of us really won here, you get to leave this place" and we both had a good laugh and parted ways.
the reason the line was long af on friday morning was because some folks (like me) couldnt get our badge after 8pm thursday... they told us to come get our badge friday morning starting at 6am. After that we ended up being in the line as early as 615am with nothing to do but wait in line for 2 hours. They need to give out badges on wednesday AND mail preordered badges out even earlier.
I doubt Tekken 8 will bring this many people next year, but this year really showed that EVO is starting to outgrow Mandalay Bay. I was in that line at 730 and it wrapped around the outer food court area more than 4 times
I was irl for the match with you against JT in losers bracket and I'll never forget seeing this man deny you your song choice by putting random song before the match started
I really enjoyed your live streaming, it was fun to tune into. It sounds like EVO may be starting to become a victim of its own scale. I wonder what next year will be like...
Maybe they need to start splitting games into different venues like using the LV convention center's multiple wings. This way there can be multiple, shorter queues for your specific game(s) and maybe even the casual setups + alley booths have their own area. If they did it all inside the LV con center, everything would be in indoor walking distance from itself.
man I'm glad I was just a spectator and didn't have to worry too much about scheduling, I got there at about 11:30am both days and could practically walk right in without issue, and the venue didn't feel overwhelmingly crowded
I was there as well, it was my first EVO and I expected it to be exciting and fun but it turned out to be quite overwhelming and stressful. I ordered a name badge and they didn't have it, which was disappointing. Hours in line just to get in, and at least another hour in line for the developer booths. The whole place was so crowded it was driving me crazy; basically squeezing between people constantly to get from A to B. I couldn't wait to get out of there. I REALLY wanted to like EVO, my friends hyped it up so much, but in the end all of us felt disappointed and exhausted by the experience. Maybe I'll give it a shot next year but I'm not sure if I want to gamble another ~$1500 on it being a good time. In the end, I didn't expect that I would come away from this as liking Vegas more than I liked EVO.
Dude i was in that line on Friday it was literally the longest line i have ever been in, in my life. When i joined the line it was by the slot machines. I couldnt believe it!
Leffen is a strong player, he earned all his wins, and he could 100% beat my butt on his worst day. But with his mentality and outward behavior I have zero respect for him as a competitor and community member. He's the little scrub that could, but he still acts like a scrub and not a champion.
I don't see how this is confusing. He's a whinier, less bigoted version of FChamp. Edit: I do want to clarify that this doesn't mean that everything Leff complains about is scrubtastic. However, it's usually expressed too hyperbolically to be taken seriously. Except when he calls FPS players babies for not liking SBMM, everyone should call them babies.
I didnt really like my time either. i guess its my fault since i went for a side event but they didnt have a singular station for persona arena until the game the tourney was played. i get it, dead game, discord fighter but whats the point of having the game around if they arent going to dedicate even one playstation for the game. evo was pretty much spending a good 150$ to have to take a bus due to casino parking prices, waiting in long 2-3 hour lines to do anything and making you realize its just there to milk tourist. however my badge took like 5 minutes along with another friends. i live 12 minutes away from the mandalay bay and i still felt like it was a waste of money. the tourney feels like an a.i was tasked with making a video game convention
I went to the line at around 9:30am and the line went all the way into the casino, doubling back to get more space whenever it could, it was crazy. Had to wait like an hour and a half to get in and the only thing that kept me sane was seeing silly cosplays pretty regularly
i heard this live and i cant believe how fucked it all was. im glad i didnt come looking for an autograph/pic. maybe next year if you wind up setting aside time for fans specifically.
The issue with modern is that we are accustomed to setups we used against other classic players, its difficult to react to these setups unless you're buffering. Against a modern having a one button DP and super you have to reestablish a completely different approach to your entire offensive game. IT kinda just blows and slows down the game. I'm also for training against modern, but its hard to find people who play modern well on a high level. I have to have perfect block strings and nothing "fake" can work. As a grappler it just kinda sucks. A lot of our offensive pressure on classic controls is surprisingly based on the mental stack of our opponent being able to execute a certain move over other options, with modern its entirely when u press the button and that mental stack is gone. For example, u see an opportunity to do a DP, but you also have to make the split section decision if you're confident if you can execute in time. With modern the only thing you're relying on is your reaction.
The end of the story confused me did you say you ended in Chicago? Because I thought you were from Florida this whole time. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@Hotashi Welcome to Chicago! If there is one piece of advice I have for you, it's enjoy all the food choices you now have access too. Plenty of delicious adventures to be had because Chicago is very diverse culinary wise.
Evo is more of a public event than a tournament these days... People who want to compete should be able to sign up preemtively and then they mail out the badges to you or something? This will allow the casual attendees line to be way shorter as all the actual "players" will already have thier badges before hand. When you hear actual proplayers constanly talking about "My evo experience was terrible" for the biggest fighting game tournament in the world, you know something has to change.
I skipped the line. I was waiting in line on Thursday for like 10 minutes and some random dude approached my group with a badge and went "you can just walk to the front, there are empty kiosks", so I went grabbed my badge and left.
Damn that sounds like most of my “vacations” I swear I’m cursed. Haha EDC Las Vegas my first year was a complete shit show. Still had an amazing time though. Haha
Man wow that is crazy that is a lot of people ot good you had good time even with all that but omg travel must been a mess just get there and to go home after.
Even if your Evo run didn't go so well this year, there's always next year, ya know? A lot of stuff can happen in a year, maybe Happy Chaos won't win Evo again next year!
Evo gotten too big for their style of running the tourny rn, they have to change schedule or innovate to make it better for both competitors, commentators and players
I honestly had to make the decision to just not play SF6 competitively for the sole reason that I know Modern players would make me boil over with rage lol. I hate easy inputs for sure but what I hate more than anything is playing against someone who’s using an entirely different control scheme than me, changing controllers is one thing but modern fundamentally changes how the game is played. Even down to a neutral level Modern players have such a huge advantage over Classic players its kind of crazy. I’d rather Capcom have either Made everyone use Modern or Classic, not the option between the two. (Also Im not bashing people who play Modern, I just don’t like it, please play how you like and have fun!)
They should start treating it like real conventions and mail out badges ahead of time for pre-registered people.
It was an service they provided iirc
combo breaker did this, idk why evo didn't
Yes I was about to post this
I've never heard of this.
I'll never forget when I went to EVO Japan to play GBVS and after hours of standing around waiting for matches in pools and no-shows, I was matched with the same person I was ranting about the heat (the condensation on the glass and the "mist"...), the crowd, and the lack of casual setups.
When we traded wins and I eventually came out ahead, I told him "which one of us really won here, you get to leave this place" and we both had a good laugh and parted ways.
the reason the line was long af on friday morning was because some folks (like me) couldnt get our badge after 8pm thursday... they told us to come get our badge friday morning starting at 6am. After that we ended up being in the line as early as 615am with nothing to do but wait in line for 2 hours.
They need to give out badges on wednesday AND mail preordered badges out even earlier.
I doubt Tekken 8 will bring this many people next year, but this year really showed that EVO is starting to outgrow Mandalay Bay. I was in that line at 730 and it wrapped around the outer food court area more than 4 times
We're there pools at 7:30? Guess I was lucky the soonest my matches were was 11am lol, didn't deal with that bad of lines
thankfully not, I meant to type that I was waiting in line at 730am but the lines really exploaded around 8am @@deddrz2549
I was irl for the match with you against JT in losers bracket and I'll never forget seeing this man deny you your song choice by putting random song before the match started
doomed from the very start
I really enjoyed your live streaming, it was fun to tune into.
It sounds like EVO may be starting to become a victim of its own scale. I wonder what next year will be like...
Maybe they need to start splitting games into different venues like using the LV convention center's multiple wings. This way there can be multiple, shorter queues for your specific game(s) and maybe even the casual setups + alley booths have their own area. If they did it all inside the LV con center, everything would be in indoor walking distance from itself.
Sounds horrible. But thank you for signing and taking a pic with me at EVO! Was the guy with the baiken fight stick Friday
man I'm glad I was just a spectator and didn't have to worry too much about scheduling, I got there at about 11:30am both days and could practically walk right in without issue, and the venue didn't feel overwhelmingly crowded
Hey man, my bad about wanting to get a pic with you but thanks a bunch for doing it. (Guy with the moogle shirt) Hopefully next year will be better!
I was there as well, it was my first EVO and I expected it to be exciting and fun but it turned out to be quite overwhelming and stressful. I ordered a name badge and they didn't have it, which was disappointing. Hours in line just to get in, and at least another hour in line for the developer booths. The whole place was so crowded it was driving me crazy; basically squeezing between people constantly to get from A to B. I couldn't wait to get out of there.
I REALLY wanted to like EVO, my friends hyped it up so much, but in the end all of us felt disappointed and exhausted by the experience. Maybe I'll give it a shot next year but I'm not sure if I want to gamble another ~$1500 on it being a good time. In the end, I didn't expect that I would come away from this as liking Vegas more than I liked EVO.
Dude i was in that line on Friday it was literally the longest line i have ever been in, in my life. When i joined the line it was by the slot machines. I couldnt believe it!
Leffen is a strong player, he earned all his wins, and he could 100% beat my butt on his worst day.
But with his mentality and outward behavior I have zero respect for him as a competitor and community member. He's the little scrub that could, but he still acts like a scrub and not a champion.
what????
I don't see how this is confusing. He's a whinier, less bigoted version of FChamp.
Edit: I do want to clarify that this doesn't mean that everything Leff complains about is scrubtastic. However, it's usually expressed too hyperbolically to be taken seriously. Except when he calls FPS players babies for not liking SBMM, everyone should call them babies.
I didnt really like my time either. i guess its my fault since i went for a side event but they didnt have a singular station for persona arena until the game the tourney was played. i get it, dead game, discord fighter but whats the point of having the game around if they arent going to dedicate even one playstation for the game. evo was pretty much spending a good 150$ to have to take a bus due to casino parking prices, waiting in long 2-3 hour lines to do anything and making you realize its just there to milk tourist.
however my badge took like 5 minutes along with another friends. i live 12 minutes away from the mandalay bay and i still felt like it was a waste of money. the tourney feels like an a.i was tasked with making a video game convention
problems are still problems wherever you are
I went to the line at around 9:30am and the line went all the way into the casino, doubling back to get more space whenever it could, it was crazy. Had to wait like an hour and a half to get in and the only thing that kept me sane was seeing silly cosplays pretty regularly
Early pools with these lines and 2 games to play... You killed it, considering.
The line was actually even longer than that, it did another wrap around through another corridor.
i heard this live and i cant believe how fucked it all was. im glad i didnt come looking for an autograph/pic. maybe next year if you wind up setting aside time for fans specifically.
Damn that sounded like hell, i've always wanted to go to EVO but how you describe it, im starting to doubt
its a fat waste of time and money
Same! And I can imagine it’s only gonna get bigger with tekken 8, MK1 and with how well street fighter did
I was doing the dishes, and I yelled out Hotashi! That’s how my mom knew they were washed
The issue with modern is that we are accustomed to setups we used against other classic players, its difficult to react to these setups unless you're buffering. Against a modern having a one button DP and super you have to reestablish a completely different approach to your entire offensive game. IT kinda just blows and slows down the game. I'm also for training against modern, but its hard to find people who play modern well on a high level. I have to have perfect block strings and nothing "fake" can work. As a grappler it just kinda sucks.
A lot of our offensive pressure on classic controls is surprisingly based on the mental stack of our opponent being able to execute a certain move over other options, with modern its entirely when u press the button and that mental stack is gone. For example, u see an opportunity to do a DP, but you also have to make the split section decision if you're confident if you can execute in time. With modern the only thing you're relying on is your reaction.
So Chihuahua is all lightning but no thunder?
Impressive.
Also, I recommend to play CrossCode.
That game is amazing.
The end of the story confused me did you say you ended in Chicago? Because I thought you were from Florida this whole time. Thanks for sharing your experience.
i moved
@@Hotashi Welcome to Chicago! If there is one piece of advice I have for you, it's enjoy all the food choices you now have access too. Plenty of delicious adventures to be had because Chicago is very diverse culinary wise.
If Churara is hard for you to say Chulala is fine. In fact that's how it's suppose to be pronounced if that hiragana name is official.
dude i showed up like 20 min before the 10 am pools on day 1 and got inside at 15 min
Evo is more of a public event than a tournament these days... People who want to compete should be able to sign up preemtively and then they mail out the badges to you or something? This will allow the casual attendees line to be way shorter as all the actual "players" will already have thier badges before hand. When you hear actual proplayers constanly talking about "My evo experience was terrible" for the biggest fighting game tournament in the world, you know something has to change.
they weren't ready for the turn out
I skipped the line. I was waiting in line on Thursday for like 10 minutes and some random dude approached my group with a badge and went "you can just walk to the front, there are empty kiosks", so I went grabbed my badge and left.
They need to cap the number of entrants and make different lines between spectators and competitors.
Rip man was defeated before match 😢
They need to fix scale by having an evo pool party outside...
Damn sucks that your experience was like that
Damn that sounds like most of my “vacations” I swear I’m cursed. Haha
EDC Las Vegas my first year was a complete shit show. Still had an amazing time though. Haha
Damn
I know this has only a smidgeon to do with the video, but Daru is so fucking sick
Saw you in the line to get into the venue. Didn't wanna disturb you so didn't say nothing.
W
Man wow that is crazy that is a lot of people ot good you had good time even with all that but omg travel must been a mess just get there and to go home after.
Sounds like a fucking nightmare!
Even though you didn't mention it the streams were fun. People complaining about the quality kinda ruined it but what can you do.
Oh damn, you’re in chicago? That’s cool!!
you got a weird obsession with sonic_sol.
Wow what an EVO!
Even if your Evo run didn't go so well this year, there's always next year, ya know? A lot of stuff can happen in a year, maybe Happy Chaos won't win Evo again next year!
Oh man, that doesn't seem enjoyable. Rough.
Evo gotten too big for their style of running the tourny rn, they have to change schedule or innovate to make it better for both competitors, commentators and players
on gahd
Bruh sad to hear but you can't make this stuff up 😅.
I honestly had to make the decision to just not play SF6 competitively for the sole reason that I know Modern players would make me boil over with rage lol. I hate easy inputs for sure but what I hate more than anything is playing against someone who’s using an entirely different control scheme than me, changing controllers is one thing but modern fundamentally changes how the game is played. Even down to a neutral level Modern players have such a huge advantage over Classic players its kind of crazy. I’d rather Capcom have either Made everyone use Modern or Classic, not the option between the two. (Also Im not bashing people who play Modern, I just don’t like it, please play how you like and have fun!)
yeah because modern controls are winning every event rofl
jesus christ
Good
Sheesh
69th like... Nice
Its crazy how they dont have a priority system for known players