As a longtime Sony NEX camera user that's not into film making but made corporate videos for clients on a budget( and vlogs for myself) I thought of buying the g6 years ago but stuck with Sony however I am seriously fed up with the work that needs to be done to make Sony colors look natural. I don't shoot flat / log but just as in your video Sony always looks like there is some kind of grey-look over all the colors (which is great if you want to create a blockbuster movie unnatural look) ... I did prefer the g6 colors they look more natural and happy whereas the Sony colors look depressed even on a sunny day ;)
Tobias Michel thanks for the feedback, I think Sony colors always need more work but I did dial down the colors and contrast on the a6000 for grading purposes. Thanks for watching!
pretty valuable content. thanks for sharing. shot my last movie on the G6 - thinking of upgrading to sony gear tho. its all a process. greets from Berlin
Hey man, first time long time! I was wondering about your opinion on the ultimate settings for getting the most cinematic look from the Panasonic G6? So, neutral vs standard or another setting, and then the numeric value of the contrast, saturation etc. Keep on keeping on, cheers!
Hey Nigel Ive been big into photography and minor cinematography for a few years now and I was looking into the Panasonic g7, do you have any experience with it?
You don't have to do separate system sound for a6000. You can buy the ECM-XYST1M which you can use on it's own, or you can connect your preferred external mic to it because it has an external mic connector. I know it's more expensive, but the image quality with a proper lens is worth it. Speaking of lens, a comparison of the cameras with the same lens would be nice also would love to see how they would fare in low light conditions. Sigma 30mm f1.4 has mounts for both sony and micro 4/3 and it's a very amazing lens in my opinion.
haxxy see I've heard that from various people but have yet to see (or hear) of that claim to be true. I've in fact I've used the mic you're referring to and the XYST1M has a port that says "mic out" not "mic in" every time I tried plugging a mic up to it the sound didn't improve at all, and even if what you're claiming works, you still have no manual audio control so the sound would be all automatic gain. And as for a low light test that kinda seems unnecessary, the a6000 would win hands down, a older micro 4/3 sensor will never do as well as a super 35mm semi new sensor from Sony, so that seems kinda useless to compare the two. Like I said I've owned and used every mic for the a6000 and none of them are that great, if you watch my other videos on the a6000 I talk about it more. Thanks for watching
I'd like to hear a detailed review about the Sony a7 II and Nikon Z5 for 1080p video. Budget full frame! From what I've seen from a few other TH-camrs, the Z5 1080p footage looks a lot more detailed, but the a7 II has a much higher bitrate with XAVC S. The a7 II also seems to suffer more with moiré and aliasing. Is the Z5 footage really more detailed, or is it just oversharpened? But, does the XAVC mean the a7 II footage holds up to color grading better than the Z5? I think these are all questions worth exploring.
congrats on 8k nigel,happy to see your channel growing so fast, any recommendation lens for lumix g7? and please make review on g7. cheers from indonesia
Hey Nigel, I'm a long time subscriber of yours and was heavily influenced by your videos to buy my first camera, which was a Canon EOS M that I picked up last summer. I'm currently in the market for a new camera for cinematic video purposes and was wondering what you thought about the G7 vs the a6000. I've found a few used G7's for sale for $650 with 3 lenses, and a used a6000 kit package for $520. Do you think the G7 would be worth grabbing for only $130 more? Any feedback would be much appreciated!
i picked up the panasonic g6 as my first camera for video work the other day, it fitted my budget and covered most of the specs i needed. Can you maybe reply with some of your recommended camera / video settings? how can i get it to look so flat as in the parts where you talk to the camera in this video?
Thanks for the video very helpful! A Request: can you do a comparison video like this between sony A6000 and Canon T5i(if possible with magic lantern raw video)? Please try to include skin tone comparison before editing and after editing, also try to compare low light performance of the two cameras. Thanks!
Hey looking into purchasing my first mirrorless camera, but only have a budget of $500, do you recommend buying a used kit for the G6 or SonyA6000 with an extra lens, or save up and get the G7? Thanks!
eric abenojar if you can the the g7 is really a no brainer, although if you wanna save some cash and invest in good glass the a6000 is great if you do audio separately
Was this show with the XAVC update? BTW there is a hotshoe mic from sony for the a6000 and also an interesting bluetooth solution. Thanks for the video!
No I tested these cameras in avchd to keep it fair, I think o mentioned in the video that I was aware that the a6000 had an xavcs codec update. And yes I’m also aware of both of those mic options and owned them both, wasn’t very impressed with either. Thanks for watching!
Dejay Rezme in my testing the extra bitrate only made a slight upgrade that’s was barely noticeable, it only really came handy when pushing the color grade. Since the G6 and the a6000 have avchd shooting options, I wanted to keep things as similar as possible. I think the softer video on the a6000 is due to the cheap kit lens I had on it. But it really goes to show that panasonic not only makes sharp cameras but also really have sharp cheap kit lenses as well. Thanks for tuning in
I'm a total newbie trying to figure a cheap camera to buy to get into making some nice video. I figure it's a question of how much detail you have in the shot, e.g. large depth of field for landscapes will totally overwhelm 28mbps. If you have shallow depth of field with blurry background it doesn't matter as much. I got one of those little 4k action cameras and found that their unlimited depth of field makes total garbage out of nature shots. So I guess if you work with it and use the right lens and aperture you can shoot great footage, but I'd rather not have to worry about bitrate. So I'm looking at fast primes now to avoid the issue, and it also seems the sony prime lenses are way more expensive than canon or mft.
I need help, im 14 and want to get into videography and make cinematic sequences. i have past experience with point and shoots and my older cousins business is photography and videography so i have used some of his dslr's. i want to spend about £200-300 pound on a camera and o eBay these cameras fit in the price range. what camera should i buy? sony a6000, panasonic g6 or another.
Hi Nigel, I really appreciate what you are doing with this channel. Most of your video are informative and really useful to get at least an idea of what is important to know to do good video works. I am a street photo shooter from Italy, and sometimes I shot some unboxing videos (but I've done also some short movies of my neighborhood, you can check my channel). I'm still very noob on video capabilities. I own a Sony a6000, have owned a NEX-6 before (that was my very first serious camera) and now I use it mainly to shoot videos, since I have a Fujifilm X100F for stills. Recently I'm wondering if I have to upgrade my a6000 to a G7 (or G80). I think that better video quality doesn't necessarily means better usability, and I've proof since the X100 lines by fuji is so fun and simple to shoot with that I've never pick up my a6000 not once to shoot stills. And even if I've set the a6000 MR meunu 1 to shoot flat profile (I use Portrait -3 -3 -3), at 1/50, 24p, I still feel that this camera is lacking that feeling of not being between me and the subject. I always dig in the menus and rarely find just what I'm searching for. And even if I'm using this camera from 2 years now, I'm not feeling that it's good for me. On the other hand I think that it can be hard to leave APS-C and go to 4/3, Narrower fileld of view, less bokeh. I should buy a speed booster, and then the price will go so high that maybe an used A7R or A7s will be a better choice (since I own also a bunch of vintage MF lenses with adapters. But in this case I must stick with Sony and it's terrible menus and horrible rear display that doesn't rotate... I'm confused. Too much choices, too much compromises.
I don’t know how the Sony beat the g6 with the kit lens lol . The kit lens for the Sony a6000 is horrible almost unusable , I paired my a6500 and now my fx30 with sigma 16mm and 30 mm 1.4
Francesco Manfredi Very true, although it has no manual audio control so the audio quality would still be pretty poor, plus no xavcs either. If I ever get a chance I'll definitely try that camera out though, you're right that it could still be a good option if someone wants a larger sensor. Thanks for the input and again thanks watching Francesco!
ummmm the a6000 has 49 points of AF edit: Sony a6000 has 179 in phase and 25 in contrast AF... Probably the reason why the a6000 AF is slower when taking photo but is beast when shooting video.
Kaudillo Orco yeah it's not the best, that's for sure. The rokinon series lenses are what I always suggest to filmmakers using Sony crop cameras, they're sooo good!
The new sigma series is also so good. I have the 60mm, people say that is the sharpest one. Now i need one wide angle len. Maybe i purchase for the Rokinon 12mm.
der Jack Sensor crop, color reproduction, dynamic range and the difference between Sony's kit lenses vs Panasonic's, those were the comparisons I was making. I'm fully aware of the 16-50 being a soft lens and if you actually watched the video, I mention that with a different lens on the a6000 it would have been just as sharp as the Panasonic.
TRIDENT STUDIOS Small size! No worries about cleaning, Custodies, accessories, airports, thieves, always with you, countless other functions, and so on!!! Are you kidding? We are living the last desperate years of photography like we knew it. Keep spending your paychecks.
Guardian Observer despite the iPhone X ability to shoot in 4k in 60fps. The sensor is too small to make good use of the pixel specs (that's probably fluffed knowing Apple's track record). If you're one of those people who think the iPhone (or any Apple products )excels over anything. It's no need to try to convince you. Enjoy your iPhone camera.
Congrats on 8,000!
Thanks, man! Always stoked when you tune in! You got great content yourself! keep it up!
NigelBarros Thanks, much appreciated! :)
gratz man! u deserve more tho...
@@NigelBarros he means congrats on 104k
Great video Nigel, loving the videos about the G6, really nice budget camera !!
Thanks for the video. Proud owner of a6000 for past 18 months 😊
Congrats on 8K!!
I still have my G6. I still love it.
As a longtime Sony NEX camera user that's not into film making but made corporate videos for clients on a budget( and vlogs for myself) I thought of buying the g6 years ago but stuck with Sony however I am seriously fed up with the work that needs to be done to make Sony colors look natural. I don't shoot flat / log but just as in your video Sony always looks like there is some kind of grey-look over all the colors (which is great if you want to create a blockbuster movie unnatural look) ... I did prefer the g6 colors they look more natural and happy whereas the Sony colors look depressed even on a sunny day ;)
Tobias Michel thanks for the feedback, I think Sony colors always need more work but I did dial down the colors and contrast on the a6000 for grading purposes. Thanks for watching!
Like a G6, like a G6! 😎😂💜
A little 2010 there for all you old enough homies.
I appreciate the work you put into your videos. Learned a lot so far!!!
Congrats on 8K subs man..
pretty valuable content. thanks for sharing. shot my last movie on the G6 - thinking of upgrading to sony gear tho. its all a process. greets from Berlin
Thanks dude! it really helped!
Hey man, first time long time! I was wondering about your opinion on the ultimate settings for getting the most cinematic look from the Panasonic G6? So, neutral vs standard or another setting, and then the numeric value of the contrast, saturation etc. Keep on keeping on, cheers!
Hey Nigel Ive been big into photography and minor cinematography for a few years now and I was looking into the Panasonic g7, do you have any experience with it?
I own it, it's great! What questions do you have about it?
Man you have the best videos!!
You don't have to do separate system sound for a6000. You can buy the ECM-XYST1M which you can use on it's own, or you can connect your preferred external mic to it because it has an external mic connector. I know it's more expensive, but the image quality with a proper lens is worth it. Speaking of lens, a comparison of the cameras with the same lens would be nice also would love to see how they would fare in low light conditions. Sigma 30mm f1.4 has mounts for both sony and micro 4/3 and it's a very amazing lens in my opinion.
haxxy see I've heard that from various people but have yet to see (or hear) of that claim to be true. I've in fact I've used the mic you're referring to and the XYST1M has a port that says "mic out" not "mic in" every time I tried plugging a mic up to it the sound didn't improve at all, and even if what you're claiming works, you still have no manual audio control so the sound would be all automatic gain. And as for a low light test that kinda seems unnecessary, the a6000 would win hands down, a older micro 4/3 sensor will never do as well as a super 35mm semi new sensor from Sony, so that seems kinda useless to compare the two. Like I said I've owned and used every mic for the a6000 and none of them are that great, if you watch my other videos on the a6000
I talk about it more. Thanks for watching
I'd like to hear a detailed review about the Sony a7 II and Nikon Z5 for 1080p video. Budget full frame!
From what I've seen from a few other TH-camrs, the Z5 1080p footage looks a lot more detailed, but the a7 II has a much higher bitrate with XAVC S. The a7 II also seems to suffer more with moiré and aliasing. Is the Z5 footage really more detailed, or is it just oversharpened?
But, does the XAVC mean the a7 II footage holds up to color grading better than the Z5? I think these are all questions worth exploring.
The G6 also has a microphone jack. The sound is written together with the video. Isn't that right?
Great help. Thank you for posting.
congrats on 8k nigel,happy to see your channel growing so fast, any recommendation lens for lumix g7? and please make review on g7. cheers from indonesia
Hey Nigel, I'm a long time subscriber of yours and was heavily influenced by your videos to buy my first camera, which was a Canon EOS M that I picked up last summer. I'm currently in the market for a new camera for cinematic video purposes and was wondering what you thought about the G7 vs the a6000. I've found a few used G7's for sale for $650 with 3 lenses, and a used a6000 kit package for $520. Do you think the G7 would be worth grabbing for only $130 more? Any feedback would be much appreciated!
Excellent video -- subscribed.
But the owl had more detail with the G6! Doesn't that tell you it's a better image weather it looks good with a lut or not?
Well detail isn’t everything, dynamic range and sensor size are important too
hi! can you give some advise. what lense should i pick for my me panasonic g6 for filmmaking? Congrats on 8k)
i picked up the panasonic g6 as my first camera for video work the other day, it fitted my budget and covered most of the specs i needed. Can you maybe reply with some of your recommended camera / video settings? how can i get it to look so flat as in the parts where you talk to the camera in this video?
Nice video!
Great video!
The Panasonic G7 is the same price as the Sony a6000, like both cameras.
Thanks for the video very helpful!
A Request: can you do a comparison video like this between sony A6000 and Canon T5i(if possible with magic lantern raw video)? Please try to include skin tone comparison before editing and after editing, also try to compare low light performance of the two cameras.
Thanks!
Hey looking into purchasing my first mirrorless camera, but only have a budget of $500, do you recommend buying a used kit for the G6 or SonyA6000 with an extra lens, or save up and get the G7? Thanks!
eric abenojar if you can the the g7 is really a no brainer, although if you wanna save some cash and invest in good glass the a6000 is great if you do audio separately
Thanks!!!
Canon eos m with magic lantern or the gh4/gh series? For cheap cinematography?
Hello. For music videos its better sony or Pananosic? What do you think ?
That guy walking with his tripod, funny.
Was this show with the XAVC update?
BTW there is a hotshoe mic from sony for the a6000 and also an interesting bluetooth solution.
Thanks for the video!
No I tested these cameras in avchd to keep it fair, I think o mentioned in the video that I was aware that the a6000 had an xavcs codec update. And yes I’m also aware of both of those mic options and owned them both, wasn’t very impressed with either. Thanks for watching!
Ah that is good. 28 mbps is definitely too much video compression. Not a fair comparison for the two cameras ;)
Thanks!
Dejay Rezme in my testing the extra bitrate only made a slight upgrade that’s was barely noticeable, it only really came handy when pushing the color grade. Since the G6 and the a6000 have avchd shooting options, I wanted to keep things as similar as possible. I think the softer video on the a6000 is due to the cheap kit lens I had on it. But it really goes to show that panasonic not only makes sharp cameras but also really have sharp cheap kit lenses as well. Thanks for tuning in
I'm a total newbie trying to figure a cheap camera to buy to get into making some nice video.
I figure it's a question of how much detail you have in the shot, e.g. large depth of field for landscapes will totally overwhelm 28mbps. If you have shallow depth of field with blurry background it doesn't matter as much.
I got one of those little 4k action cameras and found that their unlimited depth of field makes total garbage out of nature shots.
So I guess if you work with it and use the right lens and aperture you can shoot great footage, but I'd rather not have to worry about bitrate.
So I'm looking at fast primes now to avoid the issue, and it also seems the sony prime lenses are way more expensive than canon or mft.
You have a beautiful eyes
I need help,
im 14 and want to get into videography and make cinematic sequences. i have past experience with point and shoots and my older cousins business is photography and videography so i have used some of his dslr's. i want to spend about £200-300 pound on a camera and o eBay these cameras fit in the price range. what camera should i buy? sony a6000, panasonic g6 or another.
Harry Irving which one did you buy
Hi nigel! any idea where can i buy panasonic g6 online? cant find it anymore!! HELP PLS!! im hesistant to buy in amazon or ebay lol.
bryan green they discontinued the product your gonna have to buy it used I’m pretty sure
Hi Nigel, I really appreciate what you are doing with this channel. Most of your video are informative and really useful to get at least an idea of what is important to know to do good video works.
I am a street photo shooter from Italy, and sometimes I shot some unboxing videos (but I've done also some short movies of my neighborhood, you can check my channel). I'm still very noob on video capabilities. I own a Sony a6000, have owned a NEX-6 before (that was my very first serious camera) and now I use it mainly to shoot videos, since I have a Fujifilm X100F for stills.
Recently I'm wondering if I have to upgrade my a6000 to a G7 (or G80). I think that better video quality doesn't necessarily means better usability, and I've proof since the X100 lines by fuji is so fun and simple to shoot with that I've never pick up my a6000 not once to shoot stills. And even if I've set the a6000 MR meunu 1 to shoot flat profile (I use Portrait -3 -3 -3), at 1/50, 24p, I still feel that this camera is lacking that feeling of not being between me and the subject. I always dig in the menus and rarely find just what I'm searching for. And even if I'm using this camera from 2 years now, I'm not feeling that it's good for me. On the other hand I think that it can be hard to leave APS-C and go to 4/3, Narrower fileld of view, less bokeh. I should buy a speed booster, and then the price will go so high that maybe an used A7R or A7s will be a better choice (since I own also a bunch of vintage MF lenses with adapters. But in this case I must stick with Sony and it's terrible menus and horrible rear display that doesn't rotate... I'm confused. Too much choices, too much compromises.
Do you think the Nikon D3300 is better than the G6?
V good video, plz give me advice for best camera for landscape video under 500$ USD.
Get a V-log for Lumix G6 and you can a flat profile, but it costs a 100 bucks 😂
Since when is v-log available for the G6?
Panasonic G6 is more than dope!
I don’t know how the Sony beat the g6 with the kit lens lol . The kit lens for the Sony a6000 is horrible almost unusable , I paired my a6500 and now my fx30 with sigma 16mm and 30 mm 1.4
Sony nex-7 has a mic input so maybe could be still a good alternative and even cheaper than the a6000
Francesco Manfredi Very true, although it has no manual audio control so the audio quality would still be pretty poor, plus no xavcs either. If I ever get a chance I'll definitely try that camera out though, you're right that it could still be a good option if someone wants a larger sensor. Thanks for the input and again thanks watching Francesco!
NigelBarros yes true, I tried the mic input and the quality is terrible because you can't switch off the auto gain compression! Thanks
Does the g6 have clean hdmi out
Are you filming with the a6000 in your room?
Qi Perez no the shots in my room are shot on the g6. Thanks for watching!
NigelBarros A pleasure watching you man
14mm f3.5 on a m4/3 = roughly 19mm f4.5 on a apsc(1.5x) for anyone who's interested.
And the Sony a6000 doesnt have a complete turnable screen
+ no mic input
and for videos it is important
Yes, your right
Jasensei you must make w/o audio because the audio quality is terrible. Even with the Sony audio interface.
ummmm the a6000 has 49 points of AF
edit: Sony a6000 has 179 in phase and 25 in contrast AF... Probably the reason why the a6000 AF is slower when taking photo but is beast when shooting video.
BIG LIKE !!!
Good Sony lenses cost insanity.
Sigma lenses for Sony has the same quality as the expensive Sony G lenses .
Sony a6000 kit len sucks so hard...
Kaudillo Orco yeah it's not the best, that's for sure. The rokinon series lenses are what I always suggest to filmmakers using Sony crop cameras, they're sooo good!
The new sigma series is also so good. I have the 60mm, people say that is the sharpest one. Now i need one wide angle len. Maybe i purchase for the Rokinon 12mm.
The kit lens is fine. It's not supposed to be god tier.
useless comparison. if you don't use the same lens, you don't get anything to discuss about.
16-50 kit lens is not good.
der Jack Sensor crop, color reproduction, dynamic range and the difference between Sony's kit lenses vs Panasonic's, those were the comparisons I was making. I'm fully aware of the 16-50 being a soft lens and if you actually watched the video, I mention that with a different lens on the a6000 it would have been just as sharp as the Panasonic.
Make also an iPhone against these lousy cameras.
TRIDENT STUDIOS
Small size!
No worries about cleaning,
Custodies, accessories, airports, thieves, always with you, countless other functions, and so on!!!
Are you kidding?
We are living the last desperate years of photography like we knew it. Keep spending your paychecks.
Guardian Observer despite the iPhone X ability to shoot in 4k in 60fps. The sensor is too small to make good use of the pixel specs (that's probably fluffed knowing Apple's track record). If you're one of those people who think the iPhone (or any Apple products )excels over anything. It's no need to try to convince you. Enjoy your iPhone camera.
Yah lol a phone will never be as good as a camera.