@@shifterofshape I imagine that choosing to go through life as an excellent example of Barkeresque body horror does require a sense of humor. Enjoy your neovag.
@@shifterofshape ignore that Jonquil dude, he is here to harass people due to a rift in these circles…. He is obviously from the cult of Karen Davis, a toxic GC “community” who goes after any man who speaks out against gender. I guess she has been removed from YT, which isn’t surprising. Toxic af, and that is spilling into still months later going after anything related to Arty (who has done so much great work for us and I adore him!). This commenters extreme negativity has nothing to do with you! You seem lovely and this was a vulnerable act for you to come here. I hope you know most are not like that guy, people make mistakes and I hope your message prevents others from this dangerous medical path. Best wishes to you!!
Arty, I was heart broken as I watched Shape Shifters powerful videos and suggested he look up Benjamin’s Boyce’s channel to connect with other men who have chosen to detransition. But seeing you two chat so naturally shows me that he is finding his way back to the safety and acceptance of gay culture. This brings me great joy. Thank you for sharing this deeply personal and honest conversation. Shape Shifter has a powerful story to tell.
Just found their videos this week. So good to hear the phrase that transition was a way to conform to heteronormative standards. Very brave to come out with the reality of the surgery.
Do you know for sure that your son is gay? It’s become relatively common for men with NPD to end up believing they are gay, and even transitioning, because they have such an incredibly insecure self of self, among other reasons. And NPD is absolutely epidemic among millennial, and Gen Z males. Especially Gen Z. I do not even believe most of these men are autogynephiles; I do not even know if that’s a real thing anymore, and I definitely don’t believe it’s what Blanchard described it as. Mothers know, deep down, when their sons are going to be gay, essentially from the time they can talk.
Excellent discussion. At the end of the day there are men and women with different personalities. The only people benefitting from hormones and surgeries are the ones taking it to the bank. Love, dress and display anyway you want, while embracing the glorious body you were born with.
Excellent interview. Shapeshifter is challenging the trans agenda and changing the offical narrative by speaking the truth about transition and surgery. Thanks to you both for this intelligent and provocative conversation.
The amount of energy and time used to try to force others to see you the way you want them to is insane. You can’t force people to see you as a woman or as pretty or smart or anything. This is the ultimate and most extreme version of caring what people think. I wish someone’s would tell these kids that.
I also ask why cant the trans community just accept a man that enjoys long hair, makeup, heels and attracted to other men. Why must they pressure and FORCE feminine males to mutilate themselves to LOOK female. This is worse they ANY gay conversation than the conservative were pushing. WE have damaged, mutilated, sterilized and medicalized a generation of GAY and Lesbian children. Trans right is antithetical to LBG rights.
Shape Shifter, I have been thinking about you nonstop since I saw your videos the other day. My heart just aches for you and all the other homosexuals who have been hurt by this nonsense. I used to be a cheerleader for this stuff, too, I thought i was "being kind" and helping. Now I am looking into the faces of the members of my own community and having to answer for what we've let happen. I should have changed teams a long time ago. I should have voiced my doubts from the start. I should never have supported these heterosexuals taking over our spaces and declaring that homosexuals were "born in the wrong body" and had to "fix" themselves. I'm just so terribly sorry. I'm on the right side now, I am sure. But I was on the wrong side for years. I stood by and let it happen for years. I was complicit. I'm just so sorry. I really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for your time and for putting it up here for us all. Lesbian and gay solidarity and liberation forever!! We'll get through this by standing together
I think the problem is the gender zealots want it all. Total appropriation, just like Magdalen predicted. Level headed transsexuals exist, but they are becoming rare because dogma is changing and influencing the newer generations fast.
Please don’t act like its just heterosexuals saying this stuff. Theres plenty of straight gender-nonconforming people being affected by this stuff too. The “us vs. them” mentality and the guilting and shaming is at least part of the reason current activism is off the walls. I had good faith questions about trans stuff at the start when I was an “ally” but was basically told that those questions are bad and wrong and “ugh, cis people!” I was a lonely middle schooler and I completely trusted other peoples intentions. In addition, offending or hurting other people’s feelings was one of my worst fears and I didn’t want to be shunned and isolated. Its kind of like the thing she said in the video, its a way to get positive attention or feel like your apart of something. It doesnt help that people treat you like a monster if you don’t believe in it. The only peer pressure school taught me to resist was drug-related. I never expected the bullies to accuse me of being a bully. Especially online.
That was great! Arty, i think you were the perfect person to do this first interview - HSTSs are gay men after all. Really insightful stuff, a few things that, as a TERF, i never even considered. Well done both. Looking forward to some mainstream news interviews with you Shape Shifter. xo
@@shifterofshape I’m catching up now! I love hearing you flow with another gay man versus the things we spoke about. It’s nice to hear the variety of issues ❤️
I'm a straight and overall gender conforming woman. However I have always been a bit socially nonconforming. I've always hated all things pink, I use very little makeup if any, and I even sometimes buy clothes in the men's department, providing that they will fit me, like jumpers and shoes. I have no chance of rocking the full on androgynous look, but I like to play with ways of expression. I want this world to be truly diverse. I want for boys to be allowed to wear makeup and favour poetry over playing rugby. Equally I want for girls to be able to express themselves free from gender stereotypes. To have a world like that we need to start learning acceptance and embrace people as they are, NOT medicalise them into conforming 😐
Shape Shifter, you are amazing! Thank you for being so honest and fourth right about what you have been through. It’s all about getting the truth out there. Great interview, Arty!
Thank you Arty. This was such an incredible conversation, handled very sensitively - and should be seen by all sides. Shape Shifter, you are an important voice in all of this. I hope life treats you well in all you do.
Shape Shifter’s honesty is hugely laudable as is their obvious strength, speaking out openly and facing the very community who once encouraged them and who are now, no doubt, equally as vociferous in their backlash. Good for you Shape Shifter 👍🏻
Such a strong, and at the same time -- gentle person. So hurt by "gender" ideology, but making the best of his life, and reaching out to help others. What's not to admire?
Hi guys! This isn't shown in Arty's channel as recent upload. Thanks shapeshifter, I'm sending you hugs and know you have the strength to forge a good life for yourself and please keep speaking out. You can hopefully prevent boys and young men from going down this path. It's ok to be gay!
He is amazing defending Exulsanic! And seeing that she was just trying to help! Shapeshifter discovered spirituality, so rare and beautiful to see, he is an eg of what happens when you get caught in this anti gay propaganda
I am trying to imagine how painful it must be to have penetrative sex through a wound. This is just so wrong. These doctors become millionaires, and the patients are left mutilated and need medical care and psychological care for life.
Thank you SS & Arty for this insightful and informative discussion and thank you Arty for your consistently rational and *compassionate* approach to this issue!
This is a stunning and brave person. I feel sorry that they have been manipulated. Shapeshifter is a good person who needs our support against the TRA back lash.
Shape shifter is just as valid as a detrans. Glad they gathered the courage to speak authentically on what they feel. Most trans got there by contagion and they lie to themselves every day because they are scared they will be discarded by the "community". Wishing shape shifter good health and power to whitstand the lies and silencing. And exulansic is missed here.
Nice job Arty. You seem like a genuinely kind and interested host. Shape Shifter is such an extraordinary guest. His truth just flows out of him and it's so vitally important that people hear the other side of the trans experience before they make life altering decisions that can never be reversed. Shape is so brave and incredibly intelligent. Shape's story is extremely beneficial for us all..
Shape Shifter, I have admired your courage since Exulansic highlighted your situation. Thank you for your bravery and I hope your situation ultimately brings you to a place of strength and contentment.
Shape shifter said he's from an Eastern European country with a Muslim majority, did I hear correctly? What country is that, Albania? Anyways, my heart goes out to him and I do hope he never stops presenting the way he wants to. He's just one more artistic gender non-conforming male who fell prey to an extremely dangerous ideology.
@@evashimaj3304 I bet he is of Bosnian, Croatian or Serbian descent born in either Bosnia or Kosovo. All ethnic Albanians speak Albanians, and Albanian has both the dental fricatives he's failing to pronounce. Well, who cares, have a nice day 😂
I feel like it's de-humanizing to call someone Shapeshifter but I appreciate his concern about how trans medical interventions harm children. Protecting others seems to be the force that drives his videos. He's a good person. Thanks for having him on.
So I'm a terf/ gc and you confuse me Shapeshifter ..in good way though, you make me question certain thoughts about my own views. For example, I am very anti males in all spaces in which women and girls are vulnerable...but, now I'm being very honest here, I don't know if someone like shapeshifter would be safe using men's facilities. I'm not sure what I think and I'd be really interested in other options. I understand this is at odds with some gc thought, I know, that's why I'm asking it.
Sending you so much love, Shape Shifter! (And thanks for doing this interview, Arty). If I may ask a question (totes understand if you don't wanna answer, but it's something I always wondered about), how do you see the difference between expressing your personality and what you like vs "expressing gender"?
I am so sorry their transition didn’t bring them what they had hoped for. Thank you both for sharing this story. I think part of informed consent is understanding that the surgeries don’t always bring the expected results - even people opting for full transition can hear these stories and learn the importance of researching their surgeon, etc. I hope that sharing your story brings you healing and some community support. Best wishes.
I believe that if there was a machine that could change a person's gender with zero side affects the GC movement would not oppose it. What they are concerned with is the halfway place that surgery leaves these people, with a future of side effects and a lifetime of medication. Franken-gender is a word that comes to mind.
Thank you for that. Before putting the comment up I was afraid it would offend you, so relieved to find you agree. We are all trying to work through what this new frontier of science is doing to our society. Hope you find peace with yourself again.
Love her she's awesome for her honesty,when i was younger I use to want a sexchange now that i am 43 I see things different that it's OK I'm still a woman without sexchange took me a long time to be comfortable with not going all the way.
I don't remember you in Exulansic's videos. She was banned because she was to smart and outsmarted those stupid tik tok "doctors". I think ultimately she was banned because of a discussion with this Dahlia person who claimed things that weren't true, so exulansic was classified as transphobic and removed. If you get to deep into activism, they remove you. But good luck in fighting for the kids and for people to make informed choices!
Shape Shifter's video is called "Vaginoplasty Volumes: The WPATH of Least Dehiscence" and I believe it was the first one in that series that I did. It is available on Odysee and Rumble.
Arty is back!! I have missed you ❤️ And your guest shapeshifter is lovely and genuine. But please tell her, to take it slow, to take good care. She probably gets loads of hate and cruelty from the TRAs. Sending love 🌹
personally I love the concept of non-binary as a descriptor, like a real seperation between sex and gender. Recognizing female and male as sex categories, but woman, man or nb as gender categories. To me it sounds like best of both worlds. I've been looking for a reasonable position on the gender stuff for a while, I despise that its so polarized! Sending love to you Mirai, you deserve to be heard without your story being used to push someone's agenda.
Strangely nonbinary could just be ... human. I'm human. You're human. We're human. Male or female? Irrelevant except in a subset of circumstances. Masculine or feminine? Irrelevant except in a subset of circumstances. Hetero or homo or bi? Irrelevant except in a subset of circumstances. Etc etc. Friend or foe or simply a bystander is normally more relevant. To those people that someone's binary/differences will be relationally relevant ... generally and hopefully are going to be understanding and respectful. Irrelevant doesn't equate to ignored, denied, or phobic, just not pertaining to the situation.
I hadn't appreciated the anti-drag sentiment in the trans(women) community. I wonder how some transmen feel about Ru Paul etc al. Maybe there is a temptation to adopt a hyper masculine aversion to it?
AGP definitely exists. Nothing inherently wrong with it. That needs to be accepted. It doesn't mean that every MtF trans person is AGP. And what's wrong with being attracted to female presenting males who have penises? A lot of people are or there wouldn't be so much porn surrounding it. Conversely, demonizing AGP as some terrible perverse thing and then accusing every MtF person of being AGP as a way of invalidating their trans experience is pretty shitty as well.
The trans thing is not only homophobic but anti biological women. I think gay men that are female presenting liking drag and all that should be supported. If a man wants to be with a male that wants to look like a woman to a degree that’s fine. It is a gay relationship and the men attracted to that need to be honest with themselves. If that becomes normalized in the gay community I believe that will help. Having that promoted in media instead of the trans characters will be impactful.
As a transgender woman that’s post op thru SRS I can understand how you feel and I did went thru some complications but it wasn’t bad I think you went thru a bad surgeon shape shifter and it must of been hard for you to have sex with a partner. Well my sex partner with my ex bf was good but same time I had to dilate Everytime and use lub which I know wasn’t normal like how other girls get down there. I’m happy you feel comfortable in your body now. Your very pretty 😊
The message used to be accept yourself. Let people wear what they want. Challenge gender stereotypes if you want too with your look or behavior. Within reason of course. For example, You don’t show up to the office in a nightie or a swimsuit lol. That message is were we started and the APG took over it with the trans movement and went way beyond the pale.
Thanks for having me. ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕
I wish this beautiful sensitive soul the best for their life.
Thanks
Lol, imagine simping this hard for a male who harassed a woman and had her removed from this platform. Get some self respect, woman.
@@jonquiljones 😆 😂 🤣
@@shifterofshape I imagine that choosing to go through life as an excellent example of Barkeresque body horror does require a sense of humor. Enjoy your neovag.
@@shifterofshape ignore that Jonquil dude, he is here to harass people due to a rift in these circles…. He is obviously from the cult of Karen Davis, a toxic GC “community” who goes after any man who speaks out against gender. I guess she has been removed from YT, which isn’t surprising. Toxic af, and that is spilling into still months later going after anything related to Arty (who has done so much great work for us and I adore him!).
This commenters extreme negativity has nothing to do with you! You seem lovely and this was a vulnerable act for you to come here. I hope you know most are not like that guy, people make mistakes and I hope your message prevents others from this dangerous medical path. Best wishes to you!!
Arty, I was heart broken as I watched Shape Shifters powerful videos and suggested he look up Benjamin’s Boyce’s channel to connect with other men who have chosen to detransition. But seeing you two chat so naturally shows me that he is finding his way back to the safety and acceptance of gay culture.
This brings me great joy.
Thank you for sharing this deeply personal and honest conversation. Shape Shifter has a powerful story to tell.
Oh Boy! The class action lawsuits against these casual surgeons can't start a minute too soon.
Not gonna happen. Patient regret in and of itself isn't cause for a medical malpractice lawsuit. Any legal action would be laughed out of court.
@@juliereigoldstein Not true. These so called Drs. took an oath "First do no harm".
@@juliereigoldstein when enough people stand together it will happen
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet That's not how lawsuits work.
Just found their videos this week. So good to hear the phrase that transition was a way to conform to heteronormative standards. Very brave to come out with the reality of the surgery.
Do you know for sure that your son is gay? It’s become relatively common for men with NPD to end up believing they are gay, and even transitioning, because they have such an incredibly insecure self of self, among other reasons. And NPD is absolutely epidemic among millennial, and Gen Z males. Especially Gen Z. I do not even believe most of these men are autogynephiles; I do not even know if that’s a real thing anymore, and I definitely don’t believe it’s what Blanchard described it as. Mothers know, deep down, when their sons are going to be gay, essentially from the time they can talk.
@@katieandnick4113 He’s textbook. Right down to adoring Judy Garland.
Hello Tish I just sent this to you on Twitter!
His videos
HE does not use pronouns anymore.
Excellent discussion. At the end of the day there are men and women with different personalities. The only people benefitting from hormones and surgeries are the ones taking it to the bank. Love, dress and display anyway you want, while embracing the glorious body you were born with.
100%
Really beautifully said.
Excellent interview. Shapeshifter is challenging the trans agenda and changing the offical narrative by speaking the truth about transition and surgery. Thanks to you both for this intelligent and provocative conversation.
The amount of energy and time used to try to force others to see you the way you want them to is insane. You can’t force people to see you as a woman or as pretty or smart or anything. This is the ultimate and most extreme version of caring what people think. I wish someone’s would tell these kids that.
I agree. I was young and wanted people to accept me
I also ask why cant the trans community just accept a man that enjoys long hair, makeup, heels and attracted to other men. Why must they pressure and FORCE feminine males to mutilate themselves to LOOK female. This is worse they ANY gay conversation than the conservative were pushing. WE have damaged, mutilated, sterilized and medicalized a generation of GAY and Lesbian children. Trans right is antithetical to LBG rights.
Shape Shifter, I have been thinking about you nonstop since I saw your videos the other day. My heart just aches for you and all the other homosexuals who have been hurt by this nonsense. I used to be a cheerleader for this stuff, too, I thought i was "being kind" and helping. Now I am looking into the faces of the members of my own community and having to answer for what we've let happen. I should have changed teams a long time ago. I should have voiced my doubts from the start. I should never have supported these heterosexuals taking over our spaces and declaring that homosexuals were "born in the wrong body" and had to "fix" themselves. I'm just so terribly sorry. I'm on the right side now, I am sure. But I was on the wrong side for years. I stood by and let it happen for years. I was complicit. I'm just so sorry.
I really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for your time and for putting it up here for us all. Lesbian and gay solidarity and liberation forever!! We'll get through this by standing together
Thanks. Yes I missed my community
I think the problem is the gender zealots want it all. Total appropriation, just like Magdalen predicted. Level headed transsexuals exist, but they are becoming rare because dogma is changing and influencing the newer generations fast.
Please don’t act like its just heterosexuals saying this stuff. Theres plenty of straight gender-nonconforming people being affected by this stuff too. The “us vs. them” mentality and the guilting and shaming is at least part of the reason current activism is off the walls.
I had good faith questions about trans stuff at the start when I was an “ally” but was basically told that those questions are bad and wrong and “ugh, cis people!”
I was a lonely middle schooler and I completely trusted other peoples intentions. In addition, offending or hurting other people’s feelings was one of my worst fears and I didn’t want to be shunned and isolated.
Its kind of like the thing she said in the video, its a way to get positive attention or feel like your apart of something.
It doesnt help that people treat you like a monster if you don’t believe in it. The only peer pressure school taught me to resist was drug-related. I never expected the bullies to accuse me of being a bully. Especially online.
@@dragonofepics7324 was going to leave a comment to that effect
That was great! Arty, i think you were the perfect person to do this first interview - HSTSs are gay men after all. Really insightful stuff, a few things that, as a TERF, i never even considered. Well done both. Looking forward to some mainstream news interviews with you Shape Shifter. xo
Yes this was more organic and it flowed well. I miss having gay friends
@@shifterofshape I’m catching up now! I love hearing you flow with another gay man versus the things we spoke about. It’s nice to hear the variety of issues ❤️
@@ASlightlyTwistedFemale hugs
Great chat👏
Good to have u back Arty, don't leave it so long until the next video!!
Thank you for coming back Arty. I loved this interview! 💛
I'm a straight and overall gender conforming woman. However I have always been a bit socially nonconforming. I've always hated all things pink, I use very little makeup if any, and I even sometimes buy clothes in the men's department, providing that they will fit me, like jumpers and shoes. I have no chance of rocking the full on androgynous look, but I like to play with ways of expression.
I want this world to be truly diverse. I want for boys to be allowed to wear makeup and favour poetry over playing rugby. Equally I want for girls to be able to express themselves free from gender stereotypes.
To have a world like that we need to start learning acceptance and embrace people as they are, NOT medicalise them into conforming 😐
Shape Shifter, you are amazing! Thank you for being so honest and fourth right about what you have been through. It’s all about getting the truth out there. Great interview, Arty!
Thank you Arty. This was such an incredible conversation, handled very sensitively - and should be seen by all sides. Shape Shifter, you are an important voice in all of this. I hope life treats you well in all you do.
Shape Shifter’s honesty is hugely laudable as is their obvious strength, speaking out openly and facing the very community who once encouraged them and who are now, no doubt, equally as vociferous in their backlash. Good for you Shape Shifter 👍🏻
Shapeshifter, have you thought about writing a book about your experiences? Edit: just heard your mention you're writing a book! That's great!
Such a strong, and at the same time -- gentle person. So hurt by "gender" ideology, but making the best of his life, and reaching out to help others. What's not to admire?
Thank you, BOTH! (YAY! Arty's back!!!!!! ❤❤❤)
Yay! Shape Shifter! I'm glad you got to be the first to interview him Arty! ~ Aaron K
Hi guys! This isn't shown in Arty's channel as recent upload. Thanks shapeshifter, I'm sending you hugs and know you have the strength to forge a good life for yourself and please keep speaking out. You can hopefully prevent boys and young men from going down this path. It's ok to be gay!
Thanks
He is amazing defending Exulsanic! And seeing that she was just trying to help! Shapeshifter discovered spirituality, so rare and beautiful to see, he is an eg of what happens when you get caught in this anti gay propaganda
💯
I am trying to imagine how painful it must be to have penetrative sex through a wound. This is just so wrong. These doctors become millionaires, and the patients are left mutilated and need medical care and psychological care for life.
This person is so wonderful. Thanks Arty, for being wonderful yourself.
Thank you SS & Arty for this insightful and informative discussion and thank you Arty for your consistently rational and *compassionate* approach to this issue!
This is a stunning and brave person. I feel sorry that they have been manipulated.
Shapeshifter is a good person who needs our support against the TRA back lash.
Shape shifter is just as valid as a detrans. Glad they gathered the courage to speak authentically on what they feel. Most trans got there by contagion and they lie to themselves every day because they are scared they will be discarded by the "community". Wishing shape shifter good health and power to whitstand the lies and silencing. And exulansic is missed here.
Thank you both. Very helpful and informative conversation.
Thank you for helping others this way.
Nice job Arty. You seem like a genuinely kind and interested host. Shape Shifter is such an extraordinary guest. His truth just flows out of him and it's so vitally important that people hear the other side of the trans experience before they make life altering decisions that can never be reversed. Shape is so brave and incredibly intelligent. Shape's story is extremely beneficial for us all..
Shape Shifter, I have admired your courage since Exulansic highlighted your situation. Thank you for your bravery and I hope your situation ultimately brings you to a place of strength and contentment.
Genuinely stunning and brave. While it’s very refreshing and inspiring to hear from them, I hope they take good care of themselves.
Shape shifter said he's from an Eastern European country with a Muslim majority, did I hear correctly? What country is that, Albania? Anyways, my heart goes out to him and I do hope he never stops presenting the way he wants to. He's just one more artistic gender non-conforming male who fell prey to an extremely dangerous ideology.
or Bosnia. mm now I am really curious 🤔🤔
@@evashimaj3304 I bet he is of Bosnian, Croatian or Serbian descent born in either Bosnia or Kosovo. All ethnic Albanians speak Albanians, and Albanian has both the dental fricatives he's failing to pronounce. Well, who cares, have a nice day 😂
Thank you both. 💚🤍💜
Love Shape! What a brave, courageous, lovely human.💗
I feel like it's de-humanizing to call someone Shapeshifter but I appreciate his concern about how trans medical interventions harm children. Protecting others seems to be the force that drives his videos. He's a good person. Thanks for having him on.
That's what he calls himself?
Powerful. Shape Shifter you will help many.
I hope so
She's so sweet! I like her so much.... and she's so humble!
I found Shape Shifter a few days ago on my recommended, we must have the same corner of the internet 😊😊😊😊
So I'm a terf/ gc and you confuse me Shapeshifter ..in good way though, you make me question certain thoughts about my own views. For example, I am very anti males in all spaces in which women and girls are vulnerable...but, now I'm being very honest here, I don't know if someone like shapeshifter would be safe using men's facilities. I'm not sure what I think and I'd be really interested in other options. I understand this is at odds with some gc thought, I know, that's why I'm asking it.
Sending you so much love, Shape Shifter! (And thanks for doing this interview, Arty). If I may ask a question (totes understand if you don't wanna answer, but it's something I always wondered about), how do you see the difference between expressing your personality and what you like vs "expressing gender"?
At this point I think it is the same. Hugs
@@shifterofshape agree one hundred percent. "expressing your gender" is expressing your personality. Simple as that! 🙂
@@shifterofshape we love you shapeshifter!
@@stephaniemoore8013 thanks steph
God bless you Shape Shifter. You're so brave and such an incredible voice in an increasingly dangerous world for gay people.
Sending healing vibes Shape Shifter💛
I am so sorry their transition didn’t bring them what they had hoped for. Thank you both for sharing this story. I think part of informed consent is understanding that the surgeries don’t always bring the expected results - even people opting for full transition can hear these stories and learn the importance of researching their surgeon, etc. I hope that sharing your story brings you healing and some community support. Best wishes.
I believe that if there was a machine that could change a person's gender with zero side affects the GC movement would not oppose it.
What they are concerned with is the halfway place that surgery leaves these people, with a future of side effects and a lifetime of medication.
Franken-gender is a word that comes to mind.
100%
Thank you for that.
Before putting the comment up I was afraid it would offend you, so relieved to find you agree.
We are all trying to work through what this new frontier of science is doing to our society.
Hope you find peace with yourself again.
@@markkavanagh7377 if I could get somewhat functional or fully functional vagina without huge risks my life would not be ruined.
The TERF movement (which you call GC) falls away when you realize that transition regret and side effects are rare.
He is so brave and caring about others
Arty, you used the word queer as if it is acceptable. I was so pissed when they added the letter Q and many gay men were and still are.
What a great interview, well done shapeshifter and arty!
It looks like you two are in different parts of the same room 😅
Oh, I hope a lot of people see this. Shape Shifter can help so many confused young people.
love you, arty
Thanks for your honesty.
Oh Arty you are fabulous xx
Thank you for posting this--missed you Arty!! 😊😊😊
Love her she's awesome for her honesty,when i was younger I use to want a sexchange now that i am 43 I see things different that it's OK I'm still a woman without sexchange took me a long time to be comfortable with not going all the way.
This person Shape Shifter is a beautiful soul .
Thx
@@shifterofshape you don't like your man cave anymore, son? You wish you hadn't cut it off? Personally I think more men should cut it off.
@@contrajoints yes mommy 👩 😍 love you
@@shifterofshape you're welcome, son! Ttys
I don't remember you in Exulansic's videos. She was banned because she was to smart and outsmarted those stupid tik tok "doctors". I think ultimately she was banned because of a discussion with this Dahlia person who claimed things that weren't true, so exulansic was classified as transphobic and removed.
If you get to deep into activism, they remove you. But good luck in fighting for the kids and for people to make informed choices!
Shape Shifter's video is called "Vaginoplasty Volumes: The WPATH of Least Dehiscence" and I believe it was the first one in that series that I did. It is available on Odysee and Rumble.
@@exulansic3906 is it impossible for you to come back on yt?
@@Socialmediaruinedsocietyy why is she a narc?
Arty is back!! I have missed you ❤️ And your guest shapeshifter is lovely and genuine. But please tell her, to take it slow, to take good care. She probably gets loads of hate and cruelty from the TRAs. Sending love 🌹
De-transitioners ARE the golden bridge.
personally I love the concept of non-binary as a descriptor, like a real seperation between sex and gender. Recognizing female and male as sex categories, but woman, man or nb as gender categories. To me it sounds like best of both worlds. I've been looking for a reasonable position on the gender stuff for a while, I despise that its so polarized! Sending love to you Mirai, you deserve to be heard without your story being used to push someone's agenda.
100%
Strangely nonbinary could just be ... human.
I'm human. You're human. We're human.
Male or female? Irrelevant except in a subset of circumstances.
Masculine or feminine? Irrelevant except in a subset of circumstances.
Hetero or homo or bi? Irrelevant except in a subset of circumstances.
Etc etc. Friend or foe or simply a bystander is normally more relevant.
To those people that someone's binary/differences will be relationally relevant ... generally and hopefully are going to be understanding and respectful.
Irrelevant doesn't equate to ignored, denied, or phobic, just not pertaining to the situation.
Gender identity is just as legitimate as 'species identity' lmao
I hadn't appreciated the anti-drag sentiment in the trans(women) community. I wonder how some transmen feel about Ru Paul etc al. Maybe there is a temptation to adopt a hyper masculine aversion to it?
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I've been so sad that exulansic got banned :( damn.
AGP definitely exists. Nothing inherently wrong with it. That needs to be accepted. It doesn't mean that every MtF trans person is AGP. And what's wrong with being attracted to female presenting males who have penises? A lot of people are or there wouldn't be so much porn surrounding it.
Conversely, demonizing AGP as some terrible perverse thing and then accusing every MtF person of being AGP as a way of invalidating their trans experience is pretty shitty as well.
The trans thing is not only homophobic but anti biological women.
I think gay men that are female presenting liking drag and all that should be supported. If a man wants to be with a male that wants to look like a woman to a degree that’s fine. It is a gay relationship and the men attracted to that need to be honest with themselves. If that becomes normalized in the gay community I believe that will help. Having that promoted in media instead of the trans characters will be impactful.
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I broke down watching his videos.
As a transgender woman that’s post op thru SRS I can understand how you feel and I did went thru some complications but it wasn’t bad I think you went thru a bad surgeon shape shifter and it must of been hard for you to have sex with a partner. Well my sex partner with my ex bf was good but same time I had to dilate Everytime and use lub which I know wasn’t normal like how other girls get down there. I’m happy you feel comfortable in your body now. Your very pretty 😊
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The message used to be accept yourself. Let people wear what they want. Challenge gender stereotypes if you want too with your look or behavior. Within reason of course. For example, You don’t show up to the office in a nightie or a swimsuit lol.
That message is were we started and the APG took over it with the trans movement and went way beyond the pale.
she has this nervous laugh that is endearing despite the crazy situation she is now in.
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