Toyota tells dealers it has better cars than BYD after they complain daily!
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- Toyota tells dealers it has better cars than BYD after they complain daily!
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I’m glad China is getting in the game, the legacy auto makers are killing us with the crazy prices 😡
And now 100% tax on Chinese cars, so not great for the consumer
the American consumer takes another hit!!!
Lies are told so many times that no one believes them.
These so called leaders in Japanese legacy auto are doing a great disservice to their loyal customers, their own employees, and their investors. Such cowardice is shocking... Face up your mistakes and improve your cars!
Very true. They should admit to the reality that they are no more competitive and should face the challenge posed by Tesla and Chinese EV makers head-on by adopting huge changes to their industry.
A short girl told me that she thinks tall girl looks clumsy to hide her envy. Toyota says EV is no good because can’t make better EV than BYD.
Can’t using hydrogen
TOYOTA should take heart in byds wheels falling off because of very poor suspension and struts they fail under load. toyota sould take advantage and stop making ice cars as they will drown
Change is inevitable. Hanging on to the past is stopping you from embracing the present, let alone the future.
I have no sympathies for Toyota. Nothing. Because I was at a dealership, was interested in a car, was talking with a dealer ---- and then in the middle of a sentence (his sentence, he was speaking!) he just let me stranded there and turned to another person. Did not come back.
And the way he treated me there, the way I treat Toyota.
Not even ignore Toy...
I just don't care anymore.
Toyota have better cars? Didn't the wheels fall off their only EV resulting in a recall? You can fool some of the people all of the time, ...
Probably deliberate
those things are already resolved years ago though...
Tesla catches lot of fires in early years? Hopefully you remember
Toyota is in denial mode. They cannot accept, that they got it wrong .
100% agreed
Sounds like 1945
They are not the only one
Japanese superiority complex
Just like the west, most superior~~~~~🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
definitely superior to bat eating wumaos
Didn't Toyota declare that it doesn't believe that the future is EVs? How can they build a good EV?
E,actly. Makes no sense
toyota using plugging hybrid tech from BYD? how low toyota has fallen🤣
Subscribed. very good information. I strongly support competition. You can see Tesla has dropped at least $30k because China’s competition. Which means we have saved at least $30k for a Tesla because this competition! Great! Plus even Toyota is using BYD’s DMi technology, which confirms how much the Chinese technology has gone far.
And then consumers spend the saved $30k on other economic sectors, boosting the overall economic prosperity.
And the Chinese EV automakers got substantially better because the Chinese government let Tesla in in 2016 to compete with Chinese automakers. It's been a win-win for all despite the 102.5% US tariffs to protect Tesla and legacy automakers.
Yes use the best.
When I saw the head of Toyota saying he lies as lying is how business works.
Governments lies to their citizens as many people know that is what governments often do.
Their hydrogen, solid state battery and innovations were found to be jokes.
In China, the combined sales of Volkswagen, Toyota and Honda are about the same as BYD
Byd cheap junk, dumped mine for id4, 1000% better vehicle
@@philgreen2932lol ID4 😂😂😂😂
I won't be surprised if Toyota withdraws from the China market.
@@amandagrant4331 Toyota will be one of the last to withdraw. Only VW might be later than Toyota.
And Tesla? Unless a full-scale world-wide trade war (or hot war) starts, China will try to keep Tesla alive to show the world that Chinese market is open to foreign companies.
1) No. In China, VW sale number (fuel cars and "new energy vehicles" combined) is still as good as BYD. Also still better number than BYD in some periods.
2) I agree. ID.4 is much better due to its "German" image, not "Chinese product" image
BZ4X has a range of 436 km for the top model. Even more laughable, the BZ4X is priced 45% more than the BYD Seal Premium model in HK
This is comedy gold. More hilarity will ensue following the arrival of 6 new Chinese EV brands this year. Next year will see even more laughs when yet more high quality electric vehicles flood the market. Something tells me that Akio Toyoda won't find it funny, however.
It is a blessing in disguise for citizens in countries with no major car industry. Look at the US and Europe. The governments have imposed or are going to impose high tariffs on imported EVs, in the name of protecting their own car industry. Their citizens will be forced to pay high prices for not only EVs, but also ICE cars in the absence of price competitive EVs.
BYD has unveiled a new electric double-decker for the UK market. The BD11 is not only said to have a latest-generation chassis - but also houses the manufacturer's blade battery. BYD is thus leveraging synergies between its passenger car and bus business.
We have Byd busses in the Netherlands, had.....all burned down. Beyond unsafe!
Plot Twist! Toyota will be rebadging BYD cars!
In 2000 having a Nokia was the envy of all Gen X kids. There was nothing better.
Sounds something like the old saying: "a great princess" upon being told that the peasants had no bread, Feed them cake". This sounds so much like what Toyota telling the dealer. Feed them pricey gas cars.
The Toyota Bz4x should be sold at a deeply discounted used car price because its technology is so dated.
A slightly used bz4x is actually a great deal for anyone who rarely uses DC charging. And it still comes with that million km battery warranty and a very nice overall quality.
Toyota is King Of ICE Cars but BYD is King in EV...2 Kings of Different Field😂
Toyota market share in China were shrunk 36% last year
There's nothing wrong with the ability of Toyota engineers, it's management who only assigns a handful of them to a project. Compare that to a Model Y which has the whole company behind it.
Japanese companies are so conservative. The management are usually all old people with old mind set. Movie battle Royale is about killing young ones so older people won't lose their job. It's so real and the movie was made 20 years ago.
Well, the dealers want to survive, they adapt. Invest in the transition and offer the service that you are supposed to provide. If Toyota fails, you should have thought about expanding into BYD.
The brand is only a partner. Your business is service.
I ❤ and want to
Drive a Chinese EV car
Toyota HAD some very compelling vehicles for the last 50 years. They HAD a jump on the EV world when they introduced the Prius in 1997. Although they have made incremental improvements to that car since then they have been overtaken by NKOTB Tesla and many Chinese automakers. Today Toyota don't even make a compelling hybrid let alone BEV. Toyota make a better EV than BYD? THEY WISH!
But BYD’s cars cut so many corners that they can catch fire right after leaving the factory. That’s no longer a fire after a crash.
th-cam.com/video/-9GqILKXBpk/w-d-xo.html
@benimaruhou429 hi mate, you're lyng. 😂
@@Harmony99Harmony Hey, Chinese guy with such poor English, still misspelled spellings. Don’t forget that I have provided evidence of Chinese car explosions.
No any dealers from Thailand complaining like that for sure! Toyota is already the best here (at least in the sale numbers). Plus, the anti Chinese product sentiment among the most of Thai people, so there are no any Thai Toyota dealer says/thinks that BYD is better.
I see many people chose Yaris Cross. I think it is a plain-looking car, but people may not think so.
Shifting my portfolio - heavy on BTC and Revux, with a sprinkle of DOT and ADA.
Japanese brands own the market segment China wants so it will hurt them more than all other brands. Ford, GM, and Stellantis no longer make affordable cars so they have time to respond if consumers start downgrading without also losing sales. Consumers don't always buy the "best" car so quality is not an advantage. Kia stated out making lower quality cars, I remember Jay Leno making fun of them every night on the Tonight Show. But they still sold enough of them to get better and look at them now.
They can say anything they want, maybe the car can fly? The cost must be more expensive than the Chinese one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Toyota's are for pensioners......them and all Japanese.....give them just another 10 years and it's over.
Just an example. My 80 year old neighbour needed a SUV around 20.000 aud. Time to retire his old Honda Civic sedan from 2010.
I told him it was going to struggle to find something at that price, even second hand.
He didn't believe me at first, but as soon as he started to go around dealers..... he soon found out the the hard truth. And soon later I saw him driving a 2022 MG HS. Paid 20.000 aud!
He was happy with the price, but the poor man, strugg7with warnings and technology.
One week later I saw him driving a Suzuki Vitara. He said he couldn't drive the new car, and his young nice swap her 2017 Vitara with 140.000 kms for the newer one, and he was happy, cause this car has no tec ar all.
So my point is, these ICE company cars with their old tech, will still sell for the next 10 years. Cause people between the age of 70 and 80 will want something old school (apologies for the people out there over 70 that drive a Tesla, I have seen a few....cool).
sure toyota makes the best quality hard plastics so do you want them on your dash, console, door panels, arm rests etc?
China EV starts at $10,000 only. Toyota needs to worry.
Such is life.....they abused customers and pushed prices up because of being greedy.....now GO WASH CARS FOR LIVING!!!
Google reports The Electric Viking is in Aussie land, no import tariffs. He should have access to both Chinese and Western EV models. Why not do us all a test drive series of videos?
😮
I agree. His videos should not limited to EV news.
Anyone else diving into Qventi? It’s getting a lot of attention, like Revux.
“Economic complementarities” have led to “robust” Russian imports of oil and gas to China. Chinese reliance on substantial oil imports will likely “persist”, although future gas import requirements are more uncertain. Dr Erica Downs, senior research scholar at the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University, told Carbon Brief she does not think it has been “definitively decided in China” what role gas will play in its energy transition, but that this role may be smaller than previously assumed. She added that Russian oil is attractive to Chinese policymakers, as overland oil pipelines reduce China’s reliance on “vulnerable” sealane routes and Russia’s war with Ukraine allows Chinese buyers to get discounted rates on Russian barrels. China’s increased oil and gas imports, following western sanctions on Russian oil, provided an “economic lifeline” to Russia in exchange for “securing cheap supplies”, according to the Swedish Institute of International Affairs (UI). Imports from a politically aligned partner are “vital” for China’s energy - and, therefore, economic - security, according to Chatham House.
The NATO media always wants to place Russia as dependent on China and of course blame China for this war between Russia and Ukraine. Why doesn't anyone mention that India buys Russian oil and sells it to the EU at a higher price? The same happens with the more expensive Russian gas that is resold by Turkey to the EU.
I'm all in on Revux. Presales have the highest returns, and this one’s gold.
Will be rugged soon?
The tide has turned. I remember in the early 70s when Toyotas, Datsuns and mazdas started showing up on the roads and peeps were making fun of them because they were cheaply made but 20 years later they showed the mettle...😂
1:20 actually model y is bigger than bz4x, which makes it even more pathetic for Toyota
Anyone else hearing about Qventi? It’s getting a lot of buzz, just like Revux.
When Toyota says better technology they're taking about 20 year old internal combustion
It is still be the best because it is still the most wanted and the most accepted technology.
I see Revux doing 50x, maybe even 100x after it goes live on major exchanges.
I think it will be rugged soon
Toyota is still working out what to do in the new automotive climate but I’m pretty sure they will still be around when BYD is just a fading memory.
Great tech in the Cybertruck, if you wash them the normal way you can brick then & void your warranty.
Must be fun driving them in heavy rain. 7:32
That obviously isn’t true
@SamDisher001 Actually it is if you read the Cybertruck handbook
Obviamente están Perdidos 😂🤣🤣😊
What would be wrong with Toyota expanding its cooperation with BYD to make Toyota-branded cars for the US market to take the pressure from Toyota dealers off of Toyota for and then continuing to develop their in-house technology for the future.?
Toyota's right. Dealers and Sam Evans must stop whining. Toyota are going to use gigacasting to reduce costs of their hybrids. You're not too smart are you? 1400 RAV4s sold a day in the US...
The reason they use Nickel Metal Hydride batteries is because they kept under the passenger seat and they don't want to risk a fire in the cabin... 🙄🙄
He could have said "our cars are proven to be reliable".
Better then BYD, but why they need BYD for there battery en hybride cars? Look at the Bz3 it's a BYD
Over the years, I’ve been loyal to Toyota but the quality of their products and they arrogance has left them behind the market, Chinese EV I have found are well built and quality of the products is high. Legacy car manufacturers are dying a slow death
Their fears are mostly unfounded. No Chinese make has dealership networks in the US. It's takes decades to build such a network and they are needed in order to perform service work.
They can have service centers without a lot of showrooms and dealerships. DTC sales like Tesla.
Service is a dying business, just like dealerships. The usual services can be done by third party workshops and repairs can also be done there. The only thing you really need is distribution infrastructure for spare parts and warehouses. Most Chinese car makers don't even have that.
Yeah 37000$-42000$ for a Camry Hybrid XLE thats low price toyota. I dont think so toyota. Gotta tell the truth
Japan will loose its lead in the countries that have no auto manufacturer industry and have no tariffs on autos . Thats allot of business lost for Toyota . They still have solidly have Japan and North America and that should be good for a bit as the US will not allow China to destroy the auto sector in America . Now this will slow EV adoption as there is not enough capacity to build EVs in the US to get past 20 percent and that maybe a generous assumption . Elon eludes to Tesla putting on the brakes . Mexico giga is on hold and it maybe awhile . Now he did get approval for increasing giga Germany but will he build that anytime soon ? Now he is top dog in Europe so additional capacity maybe prudent . The cyber truck did not help to electrify America . The model 2:was a much better option to do that
Wages do not make up a big fraction of the total cost of a car. Price difference must be from somewhere else.
Scale + cheap energy?
If you look at the total supply chain it probably does.
Toyota needs to be more transparent on there PR and NRs there lies, why because they never follow through there claims
China’s wages will rise, not sure how anyone would deny that. By the time its level with highly developed nations is comparable they’ll have stretched their manufacturing dominance well beyond what it is now. Africa aren’t waiting around for anyone and I’d take a stab at the world looking a hell of a lot different in 20 years than it does now. Every developed nations niche is under threat.
Toyota heads are coping hard as usual 😂
I get the feeling that Sam Sam china man doesn’t care for Toyota 😂
What about all the BYD dealership fires in China? Is it a design issue or sabotage? We need some reliable information on this situation.
Do you believe that? If BYD car is so poor, people will still buy so many byd cars in China? come on, consumers are not stupid in any country.
Chinese people are very picky on their car of choice. If there are true issues like this, most likely they’ll boycott and not buy byds.
The Japanese economy so dependent on its car manufacturing they're going to be in trouble for not developing affordable compelling EVs. The population in Japan is dwindling economic stagnation isn't going to help. Jeannine
Got to wonder whether the head of Toyota will fall on their sword for ruining the Japanese car industry? This was a traditional practice in Japan of old.
If China can get EVs to Australia that is under $30,000 Australian dollars. China will dominate the Australian car market. Which has traditionally been controlled by Japanese and Korean car brands.
Companies that dont use gigapress technologies will eventually go out of business.
Tesla is a lot more in trouble than Toyota as it has far worse reputation than Toyota.
I like my Camry 😅 made in America 🎉 and outstanding engineering
Same with 08 solara and 15 corolla
I'd bet that people marveled at the quality, efficiencies, and reliability of the best brand of steam powered machines of the day too. If Toyota focused their energies and "outstanding engineering" on EV's, I'm sure they could produce cars that people would be happy with.
@@skipondowntheroad5833 don't worry learn to love the ICE don' t look up
@@skipondowntheroad5833 66k on solara 156 k on corolla
Toyota living in a 11million+ cars per annum bubble and stable share price A lot of tall puppy syndrome going on
The Toyota BZ4X is far and away the worst EV on the market. I just found out that one of my ex-girlfriends bought one. Haha
If I wanted to buy a new vehicle and keep it for 20 years honestly I'd probably buy a Toyota. They are the king of reliability and longevity.
My camry lasted 14 years, BMW 18 years and mercedes still going strong at 25 years 228k miles only had to replace a/c compressor, but will get an ev next!
With 2000 moving parts the UCE powered car is a Rube Goldberg machine compared to an EV. Think of what Toyota could achieve in reliability and longevity if they focused on electric cars.
@@skipondowntheroad5833 Yes, but then there's the potential to have to replace the battery which pretty much KO's the car. It's not so clear cut.
@@skipondowntheroad5833 Then, they can't sell more their EVs after customers buy the first ones. Because they could last forever...
😂😂😂😂
Your dealers are nothing to brag about.Your vehicles have too many recalls.You get ripped off on price and service.
I want to know how long China can government subsidize their EVs? One year, five years or forever. This is a critical question.
all subsidy has been phased out, except some tax exemption on sales.
Funny how the West think the Chinese are winning cause of so called subsidies. If that was the case the Indias would actually have a car industry if that was the case. Chinese cars are actually better and compete very well against Japanese and German cars. American cars can’t even compete with the non-Chinese brands. 😂😂
you can also ask that to US goverment , how long can they "support" detroit
Who speaks for Toyota. Toyoda the grandson of the founder got the company into this position with his inept leadership 2009 to 2023. No new ideas, no innovation, no anything. He was kicked upstairs to Chairman in May 2023 and replaced as CEO by Sato. But Sato has said practically nothing while the utterly incompetent Toyoda just will not shut up - peddling the same drivel about EV's as he has for years. Effectively that renders the company leaderless. Sato and the Board must ditch the old guard of Toyoda if the company is to survive. Unfortunately Toyoda was there so long most of the Senior positions are still held by appointments from his period of CEO. Prognosis, poor, very poor.
Really, I stopped listening to anything Toyota says a while ago.
Still tastes like Chinese.
Most people are better off with a corolla or camry PROVEN TECH
30k corrolla that is still using tech 20 years ago. Toyota is done
@@vilester 26k out the door for a corolla le. 20 years from now still on the road
Toyota, another company that should be on it's hands and knees begging to license Tesla's technology. Jeannine
Revux is dominating my crypto chats - seems like the next big thing!
Google Michael Dunne and Dunne Insights, he knows where Toyota is headed and who is going to dominate in EVs.😄🤔
The Chinese Auto assembly worker with an average minimum wages is about $345 to $365 USA Dollars a month, that is with out over time paid.
To earn more wages, the Chinese assembly auto worker has to work for 12 to 13 hours a day in order for them to earn from $800 to $900 USA dollars a month.
They have to spend more than 3/4 of their life time at work just to survive under paid.
That why the Chinese Electric vehicles are much more less expensive than other countries automobile manufacturers.
😉💖⚡️🔋🌞🌏✌️
Wages must correlated with cost of living. China's average living costs and Food in China on average is a lot lower, just watch Blondie in China for the latest prices.
Hybrids for the next 15years, then in that time when ev's can do 1000 k on the highway NON STOP with 4 adults and luggage like a Camry Hybrid today. Then it will be all EV.
So what your really saying is; I’m too poor to buy a new EV, so I’ll moan about them.
What ever, Toyota makes and sells what US buyers really want - Not EV's. Good old dependable ICE autos. Better every time.
that is because there is no good ev options in the US. Don't bring up tesla, their budget/minimalist interior is no-no to me.
Cheers mate
I'll never buy a Toyota again.
The “jaspion” style of recent japanese cars are simply UGLY! 🤮
Toyota has cash
Toyota have 180,000,000,000$ in debt...... 😂
@@mikafiltenborg7572 Toyota also has 570,000,000,000$ in asset
Byd's quality is hidious, many, many complaints, rust, fit and finish, and the paint. Why don't you speak about that?????
Your negative focus on Toyota is so inmature and inaccurate as well.
It is obvious you get paid for it.
sales number don't lie. where byd is available, comsumers seem to love it.
@@qilu2004 very poor sales in Europe though, more than 100.000 cars unsold parked in Antwerpen and Rotterdam port.... . Only in Russia, Byd sells well because all European manufacturers left due to the war with Ukrain....., Chinese brands filled the gap.
If th Japanese silent minority says it “ Hey it must be real “. Except byd gon make Corolla yehehe
Thai people: No! Japanese products, especially Toyota, will never worse than Chinese products.
China’s economy actually sped up last quarter. Plus they are growing faster than most countries.
i won't take their stats
at face value. reality on the ground paints a much gloomier picture.
How will Toyota combat the Chinese EVs? Mark my words, it will be hydrogen cars.
Whoops, not hydrogen cars, hybrids are the best cars in the world!
Whoops, not hybrids, the hydrogen V8 will be the best!
Whoops, not hydrogen V8, it will be Toyota solid state EVs!
Whoops, not solid state EVs, it will be hydrogen cars........
Toyota is the global auto manufacturer.
They have no subscription for that.
China was told, they could spend $1 trillion usd per year developing ICE technology for 20 years and still would be 50 years behind america or japan, nevermind germany. So they decided to skip over ICE technology and develop EV technology.
BYD make Toyota BZ4 cars. It’s obvious that BYD will be able to undercut the price when they make their own cars.
Fortunately, BYD did not make the BZX4 car and had little involvement in its design or componentry. The BZX4 is entirely the fault of Toyota and Subaru. BZX3 can be blamed on the joint venture of BYD and Toyota, but it only sells in China.
@@neilmiley1607 Thanks
There is no brainer el,Viking. Chinese ev's are far worse is quality then Japanese or americas, or europeans.I may say, more reliable and save.
Toyotas gas and hybrid are definitely bettwr than chinese cars. But Toyota EVs better than Chinese, haha not a bloody chance. Toyota best beware American, Korean and Europe should be en garde too. A new world order in vehicles will sweep the world soon. I love Chinese styling,
Afternoon mate
Phuck Toyota. I'm trading in my RAV4 for a BYD Sealion 6 😂