The magic system in Two Worlds 2 has the same complexity as Outward, but the complexity comes from it is spell creation system and not sequence casting. I do have to agree that Outward has more of the spellcaster feeling than Two Worlds 2.
+1 two worlds 2 was an insane experience. When you play MP you learn even more because the community was great at abusing it for pvp. Spells that perpetually resurrected you, spells that could clear whole caves, or leveraging tornadoes and boulders to make a faux levitation. Crazy combos
Magicka 2 is my personal fav when it comes to wizardy feeling, you do need to learn to spell though... But yeah, the way elements interact and how we have to memorize / know what to use at all times is the perfect spot for me
@@pentagram4872 Dragon's Dogma has been a lot of fun. I got it during a steam sale and mained a mage. It did remind me a lot of Outward, without being Outward.
I was never a fan of rune magic. Everybody always seems to hype it up, but I've always found sigil magic more interesting, personally. Like how you can make a melee mage with the ice sigil, push kick, and mana ward, or stack sigils like fire and wind for high damage with spark. Rune magic only really has like 2 offensive spells not including the conjured sword, and fewer synergies in its abilities with other classes. I get that it brings a lot of utility to the table, but I've never felt like it was enough, personally. Maybe if there were more combinations with the runes, I'd like it more, but then it might be a bit too good.
In the end it really comes down to personal taste. I dont really like hexmage for example and yet it is a very popular skill tree. Fortunately outward has enough gameplay styles so that everyone can enjoy something ;).
The magic system is so good I've played through the game with like 5 magic builds but they all had their own play style. Too good. I have a hard time resisting the magic route. Some day gonna force myself to try a tanky melee or archer build.
My favorite is the Ritualist Shaman. Music is my Magic, and my Magic is Pain. I'm going to play your funeral song, and you will dance to it. While my instruments heal me.
To me the magic system feels like a step too far in the right direction, I like that it makes you think, but I feel it becomes slightly tedious in the long run
Well i think the only point where i would agree with you is about playing around the blood sigil. I do not think farming should really be a part of outward and to play this think you generally have to farm for stones which imo is like you describe, a bit tedious.
Well even if i have yet to play it an obvious recommendation would be dragon's dogma. Elden ring is also a pretty good way to have a "similar" experience. However outwards experience is quite hard to replicate :) modded skyrim maybe xD
btw random thought, but if you love ritual / rune magic system, you should try out the game named "Arx Fatalis" a old little gem :) Its the creators of the famous Dishonored games.@@pentagram4872
Speaking of magic guns you should have mentioned that firearms count as a Spark spell where sigils are concerned. oh and theres also Blood Bullet. Your magic can be a gun if you want
@@pentagram4872 but you mentioned magic being a gun. With that image in the viewer's mind you could have ended the video by showing this literally being a thing
I wasn't able to defeat tha boss with a rune magic focused chatacter. She just auto heals too much for the dps rune magic could output. Perhaps using manaward while hitting with the summoned swords ?
Rune magic alone is probably not enough for these late game bosses, combining it with other forms of magic is generally very usefull. Now this specific boss is a "dps check" especially once the minions are dead. Generally having good impact damage helps preventing the heals.
Rituals huh, looks slow I want something fast and use many elements Try wizard of legend it's 2D pixel art but it's faast A 3D sequel is coming this year
Wizard of legend is great,but it didn't tickle the feeling of accomplishment result from discovering thing. If the chaos magic can be modified like the in game Lore,it will be in same stead as Outward in Wizard Roleplayer
Not for me honstely. I never pciked up the game cause survival and weight managemnt isnt my thing, and the magic is too ritualistic and tedious for an action game
@@pentagram4872 The sigils are great, but a lot of them feel useless like Wind and Blood. They don't really have any good attacks. Mana is more useful to have as a warrior than a mage and you need more of it. Also, taking mana points should be more punishing to spec into at first. There also just aren't enough useful spells that you can cast without needing a sigil. Hex mage is great but the randomness of jinx makes no sense. It's just a time waster, which is my biggest problem with outward and pretty much my only one, is the massive rng time wasters that aren't necessary
I'm sorry but I'm sick of people saying rune magic is best. It sucks. Wind sigil is most op like I've never had anything not die when I casted lightning strike in the wind sigil. And Soo much more versatility you can throw lightning. Throw Ethereal damage and Lightning strike all in the wind sigil. When I used rune magic I found myself just placing rune trap for everything lol
@@pentagram4872 I mean I did. Just talking about some kind of related but not really stuff. The magic system in this game is super complex and feels like you have to learn it. I get it.
I mean no? It's the way i talk. You don't have to respond to all your comments. And it's was more of a in general comment not totally directed at you. You can always hide or block my comments of they get on your nerves that bad buddy
![ปฏิเสธไม่ไหว (Crush on you) - LIPTA feat. No One Else [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NBw1jF342vw/mqdefault.jpg)
The magic system in Two Worlds 2 has the same complexity as Outward, but the complexity comes from it is spell creation system and not sequence casting. I do have to agree that Outward has more of the spellcaster feeling than Two Worlds 2.
Sounds interesting! The list of games i must play is getting ridiculously long...
+1 two worlds 2 was an insane experience. When you play MP you learn even more because the community was great at abusing it for pvp. Spells that perpetually resurrected you, spells that could clear whole caves, or leveraging tornadoes and boulders to make a faux levitation. Crazy combos
Magicka 2 is my personal fav when it comes to wizardy feeling, you do need to learn to spell though...
But yeah, the way elements interact and how we have to memorize / know what to use at all times is the perfect spot for me
;)
magicka2 is great
Completely agree, Outward just hits different
Agreed ;)
Dragon's dogma and Wizard of Legend both have very fun magic too
Definitely need to play those two, dragon dogma first probably as i have heard more from it
@@pentagram4872 Dragon's Dogma has been a lot of fun. I got it during a steam sale and mained a mage. It did remind me a lot of Outward, without being Outward.
Interesting! The magic system is what sold me on getting this game. Still waiting for another that scratches that itch.
Not what sold me the game but definitely something that kept me playing!!!
Yessssssss the invincible rune sage appreciation video I needed!!! 😂
Hahaha rune simps assemble
I was never a fan of rune magic. Everybody always seems to hype it up, but I've always found sigil magic more interesting, personally. Like how you can make a melee mage with the ice sigil, push kick, and mana ward, or stack sigils like fire and wind for high damage with spark. Rune magic only really has like 2 offensive spells not including the conjured sword, and fewer synergies in its abilities with other classes. I get that it brings a lot of utility to the table, but I've never felt like it was enough, personally. Maybe if there were more combinations with the runes, I'd like it more, but then it might be a bit too good.
In the end it really comes down to personal taste. I dont really like hexmage for example and yet it is a very popular skill tree. Fortunately outward has enough gameplay styles so that everyone can enjoy something ;).
Dragons Dogma if you really want to be a mage that feels and fights like a mage.
The magic system is so good I've played through the game with like 5 magic builds but they all had their own play style.
Too good. I have a hard time resisting the magic route. Some day gonna force myself to try a tanky melee or archer build.
Dragons Dogma ; Ya say Whaat?
Love it ❤❤❤
My favorite is the Ritualist Shaman. Music is my Magic, and my Magic is Pain. I'm going to play your funeral song, and you will dance to it. While my instruments heal me.
I love witch 🧙♀️
To me the magic system feels like a step too far in the right direction, I like that it makes you think, but I feel it becomes slightly tedious in the long run
Well i think the only point where i would agree with you is about playing around the blood sigil. I do not think farming should really be a part of outward and to play this think you generally have to farm for stones which imo is like you describe, a bit tedious.
Tedious,sure,but it Will offer more Endgame gamplay for Veteran
any game you would recommend if you love Outward and just want more of the fantasy magic gameplay /explore :)??
Well even if i have yet to play it an obvious recommendation would be dragon's dogma. Elden ring is also a pretty good way to have a "similar" experience. However outwards experience is quite hard to replicate :) modded skyrim maybe xD
@@pentagram4872 well I am a magic freak lover hahah so played all of those hehe but thank you anyway =]
btw random thought, but if you love ritual / rune magic system, you should try out the game named "Arx Fatalis" a old little gem :) Its the creators of the famous Dishonored games.@@pentagram4872
Dragons Dogma Online had a unique magic system as well.
People keep telling me about dragons dogma, i really need to check it out someday...
Speaking of magic guns you should have mentioned that firearms count as a Spark spell where sigils are concerned. oh and theres also Blood Bullet. Your magic can be a gun if you want
Truuue but i could not mention everything xD
@@pentagram4872 but you mentioned magic being a gun. With that image in the viewer's mind you could have ended the video by showing this literally being a thing
@@alecciarosewater7438 true that could have made a nice joke xD
arx fatalis might be of interest to you.
I think you are not the first one telling me about this xD
Now that I have the power to kill pentagram in stream... I shall rule the world
Hahaha i havenot died by your hand yet
You will.... You will
@@sheanstanks All the luck, Penta is a master at beeing unkillable xD
@@cuppixd4267 we shall make him suffer together
Outwards rune magic system was straight ripped from invoker in dota 😮
that is possible but i never played dota and i would hardly consider it a RPG xD
I wasn't able to defeat tha boss with a rune magic focused chatacter. She just auto heals too much for the dps rune magic could output. Perhaps using manaward while hitting with the summoned swords ?
Rune magic alone is probably not enough for these late game bosses, combining it with other forms of magic is generally very usefull. Now this specific boss is a "dps check" especially once the minions are dead. Generally having good impact damage helps preventing the heals.
Hehe I'm proud. Definitely a real admirer of the system in place.
Yeah really one of the things that made me love outward when i discovered it
Outward is hands down one of the greatest Rpgs ever.
I agree though it could use a bit if polish and way more money xD
Pentragram does it again! ^_^
Hehe oh have you seen my fiction cursed blood? I am wondering if you have any thoughts on it...
@@pentagram4872 Been kind of overwhelmed with stuff, but will get around to it soon! :P
@@AegixDrakan dont worry i understand! I wish you the best of luck!
dragons dogma has pretty good magic too
Yeah its on my list of games to test...
If you have kite from enemies it means magic is not strong enough
Hahahaha
Rituals huh, looks slow
I want something fast and use many elements
Try wizard of legend it's 2D pixel art but it's faast
A 3D sequel is coming this year
Wizard of legend is great,but it didn't tickle the feeling of accomplishment result from discovering thing.
If the chaos magic can be modified like the in game Lore,it will be in same stead as Outward in Wizard Roleplayer
Not for me honstely. I never pciked up the game cause survival and weight managemnt isnt my thing, and the magic is too ritualistic and tedious for an action game
I disagree °-° Outwards magic system is a great concept but it falls flat.
can you explain what you mean? i am interested
hogwarts legacy fan average opinion
@@whatasave4556 not the most constructive way of thinking
@@whatasave4556 I don't even know what that means but okay. I've never even played that game.
@@pentagram4872 The sigils are great, but a lot of them feel useless like Wind and Blood. They don't really have any good attacks. Mana is more useful to have as a warrior than a mage and you need more of it. Also, taking mana points should be more punishing to spec into at first. There also just aren't enough useful spells that you can cast without needing a sigil. Hex mage is great but the randomness of jinx makes no sense. It's just a time waster, which is my biggest problem with outward and pretty much my only one, is the massive rng time wasters that aren't necessary
I'm sorry but I'm sick of people saying rune magic is best. It sucks. Wind sigil is most op like I've never had anything not die when I casted lightning strike in the wind sigil. And Soo much more versatility you can throw lightning. Throw Ethereal damage and Lightning strike all in the wind sigil. When I used rune magic I found myself just placing rune trap for everything lol
I dont think you got the message of the video but its ok ;)
@@pentagram4872 I mean I did. Just talking about some kind of related but not really stuff. The magic system in this game is super complex and feels like you have to learn it. I get it.
Then try to be more cordial pls
I mean no? It's the way i talk. You don't have to respond to all your comments. And it's was more of a in general comment not totally directed at you. You can always hide or block my comments of they get on your nerves that bad buddy
@@peatjones they dont do not worry ;)