How to add a 2ND BATTERY to your electric bike (Safely)
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0:00 Let's get this party started!
0:31 The Dual Battery Connector is IN STOCK!
0:51 How do these work?
1:02 How to connect one?
1:32 Normally - your batteries would need to be separate
1:42 This makes them join together
2:03 Dual Battery installation options
2:44 Our adapter saves the day if you don't have an XT 90 Connector
4:01 Tech specs & capacity info
4:23 The Amp Hours (Ah) can be different
4:42 Voltage MUST be the same
6:56 How much current can it handle?
7:41 Get it NOW! - กีฬา
Do you want a custom mount or a case to put the dual battery connector on your bike?
That’s a lot of money
Case? Have a poly wrapped 52v 20ah auxiliary battery for my Scorpion.
Yes , what about a Sondors step ?
reccomend you buid stuff specificaly for radrunner plus or radrunner because these popular branded bikes will be the the people buying your kits and upgrades
I would like a case. I have blacked out my Runner and the shiny aluminum would not look right, but if I paint it black it would affect the heat dissipation. Actually that gives me an idea to mount above the 35a controller that sits at bottom of frame…
Love how you are helping people with upgrades but at the same time carving out a business for yourself
I love how - in the Wild, Wild West world of e-bike manufacturing - where everyone is using different designs and equipment, you are creating standardized equipment to improve the usability and performance of these bikes! I think you are way ahead of the curve on this, and I really appreciate it! Keep up the good work, Bolton Ebikes!!
I was watching this again after 2 years to get a "refresher". Excellent course by the "Professor" - Kyle Chittock.
Very interesting and technical information about E-bikes and answering common questions that most new owners would ask especially about taking care of your battery and most other components on your E-bike ! I believe that your videos and instructional commentary are very valuable to me and a lot of new E-bike owners everywhere ! I really enjoy your content .
I purchased one and installed it on a wallke x3. It works great! The batteries level out at about 75%, and hover around that range for miles. Thanks area13!
Do you have a link for the connector?
Hiya mate, this video was shared by another youtube Luke Lorusso and I'm impressed. It all makes complete sense to me on how you explained it, and also with the connectors you have thought of every eventuality which is cool too. Thanks for sharing
That's just the explanation I needed. Thanks I'll place an order. It will be plug and play for me.
I've seen some delivery riders with a battery cradle on the top tube with a full battery in it and the battery that's running the motor is on a battery cradle on the lower frame tube.
They would have a switch to change the battery in use if those 2 craddles are actually connect to the motor, or simply physically exchange battery cradles when the lower tube battery runs out of juice for the full battery that's on the top tube.
For people that work longer hours or live far from where they could use only one battery, that's a way to extend range.
I want a mount for bbs02. This is why I’m here. Love this video btw. Great info. I love your content.
Bought two of these and they are arriving today...ON TIME; thanks! Say what you will do, and do what you say - A+ for customer service.
QUESTION - Right now we are just changing from A to B battery by unplugging A and plugging in B; works fine. We are going to test your DBPC this on a 200 Miles three day bike ride this weekend on our Juiced RipCurrent S Fat Bikes. Rumors on another DBPC (purchased from another company in March and never arrived - slow/no boat from China issues - F for Customer Service) states better efficiency. We have two nearly identical batteries (Juiced 52v 19.4 AH "A" and Joyisi 52v 20 AH "B" on rack and we normally get 50 miles of range off each battery @ non-ludicrous speed (sub-20MPH Level 1 Assist). Should we expect 50+50=100 range or do you think with the dual battery draw working each battery at 50% we will achieve better efficiency and get "more" range?
Also, the aftermarket Joyisi Battery has a front plastic housing that is empty under the cover where I planned to install the DBPC inside. It will look cleaner (I have OCD), but do I need to worry about reduced airflow over the DBPC heatsink housing??? Option 2 is always bolt under the rack for added airflow. Suggestions???
I have a 36volt Ebike and did something similar but WAY easier and cheaper. Stock battery is a 13 AH Hailong type frame mount. I added a bike rack and mounted a 36 v 20AH battery on that. I opened up my controller box and there was enough room to mount an ON OFF ON toggle switch. I found a 30amp one with insulated boot over the metal toggle. I then connected the controller ground to BOTH batteries, the controller positive to the center terminal and the pos from each battery to the other 2 terminals. This is mounted under and slightly behind my seat post. All I have to do when one battery runs out is put my hand below seat, switch to the other battery, turn back on the bike and continue riding. I don’t have to
Stop, swap batteries, worry about an electronic part failing etc. only thing that can fail is the toggle switch. So I keep a Phillips screw driver in my rack bag. Should the switch fail I could simply unscrew either battery terminal and screw it onto the controller post and close it all back up to get me home. Only down side is at some point to use the total amount of power of both batteries I have to throw a switch. The system here will automatically “link” both batteries so that you can use the total amount of Amp hours without doing anything or rebooting your bike. Both ways are safe and work. I cringe when I hear people doing what I did BUT simply wiring the two batteries in parallel!!! Big no no for reasons stated by this gentleman !!
Great, But a parallel connector is still the best and easiest way. It will drain your batteries together alleviating stress on both, Which equals less voltage sag and kinder on your battery cells.. Also you can eek more capacity all together by running parallel to using your batteries separately.
I just upgraded my membership and sent you an email. My converted e-bike took a turn for the worse today when I was out riding in the rain. The bike is still good but the conversion kit and the battery aren't.
I don't have the money for a new one right now but should in a few months. I will be getting my next one from you because I have been very impressed with what I've seen in your videos and live streams.
I would like a 2nd battery that can be carried from the rear mounts with a wiring harness kit that is will allow me to simply plug it into my existing wires. That is, I won't need to do any splicing, adding connectors or doing any soldering.
You mean plug-n-play? If you have a Rad, you are in luck. Bolton not good for you, than DateX2 is what you need.
@@SilentHProductionsLLC DateX is an excellent device! Super compact and takes care of everything. Comes in different flavours for your needs, The most expensive one will run 3 batteries, Of any AH or Voltage, And can charge all 3 with one charger while on the bike. The cheapest will run 2 batteries of any AH or voltage but no double charge function.
It looks like on the Blackbird you could potentially design a slightly larger case for the motor controller and house the dual connector inside. I would also be interested in a way to mount the 2nd battery to the rack itself
Love the videos. But when instructing, the background music is too much. I know it’s for production value and it has its place, but not when you are teaching something. Is it just me, or does anyone else think the same? Just my thoughts. Thanks for the great vids!😁
Thanks for the tip
I didn't really notice the background music here but if there had been music during my physics class, it would have driven me crazy. Good point...
I don’t know I’m someone who has ADHD that generally doesn’t impact my normal life but for long drawn out activities without something to drown out my internal brain it’s difficult to concentrate, so music, city scape noise, water droplets… etc actually help me focus better otherwise I’m thinking of too many things at once.
I didn’t have a problem with the music at all, guess my brain is just better than yours
Yeah, interlude/super cut music is cool but hearing your knowledge clearly is cooler!
So my suggestion for that adapter in a nylon Cordova weatherproof bag with velcro straps to go around to see it downtube. Or you could put it basically anywhere else . Basically if you have two batteries on the E bike, you could have one as a reserve kind of like they used to put a reserve gasoline tank on automobiles in the olden days.
Is there an ideal diode or Schottkey diode in there to ensure pack isolation? Otherwise dubious..I run two packs in parallel via a "2 for 1" diode (Schottkey) and I never worry about differing pack voltages..I charge both at the same time with 2 chargers, when they are connected via the diode, no matter what charge state they are at relative to each other. Downside is a small overall voltage drop, and impossible to use regen with this setup. I have 23,000 miles on my trike with this setup and great for peace of mind.
Would love a mounting kit!
explained in detail. very nice I have fitted one
I LOVE THE MUSIC CHANGE IN THE BACKGROUND
Really glad I found this channel. Also, I live in Northern CA so may swing by someday
Please do!
@@Area13ebikes can u buy the true 750 in store?
Lovely video and i leant something new! , any idea for an alternitive for the UK market
I can install any connector i want as i am proficiant in soldering. The radio control hobby also makes it so i already have connectors in my collection. Even XT90s (50 of both male and female plugs), EC5, IC5, IC3, Molex, etc etc.
How would I go about charging when using this parallel connector? If I pick one battery to charge will it also charge the 2nd battery now if I don't remove the parallel connector? Or should I charge both batteries at the same time with their own separate chargers?
Nice to see his response
Or lack of
Would love to see what kinf of mounting hardware you came up with for this please. Very interested!!!
Great item...keep up the innovative work 👏 👍 👌
Thanks a lot 😊
awesome information, Thank You.
Hey man excellent video exactly what I was looking for!! My controller came in the mount of the battery is it still possible to use this adapter?
Great informative video :) With using this device to add a second battery to your ebike, are you able to charge both via the existing single charging port ?
Nope
No
@@Busdathead Do batteries need to be disconnected from each other when charging them?
Yes please… a way to mount your 2nd battery connector would be fantastic !
Great video, most educational out there
I appreciate that!
Cool device, just wish it handled more current. I run dual Tesla batteries in parallel (39.2ah total), but you have to be careful to match the voltages. Sometimes I just leave them connected and use one charger, and the second battery gets charged with the first one. For those that are concerned, the Tesla batteries have a common connector for charge and discharge, so it doesn't make a difference to the BMS which lines the power comes in. Charging takes longer this way, but I don't have to keep using the power meter!
BOOM! That’s why I tape over my Hyper Scorpion battery button. Just in case! So looks like your system offer beats the Juiced battery switch I bought (Amazon or EBay?) and will consider going in your direction. Will check out your site thanks!
I would like to see a Lectric XP dual battery setup with cradle and connector.
Great concept and thanks for sharing. Would it easier and or safer if you had an A B switch to choose between batteries? My knowledge on this is limited and if this is a dumb question sorry😞
I was thinking same, especially if u had different voltage batteries .
YES !!!!!!! YOU DOUBLE YOUR AMPS NOT OK. BURN!!!!!
I have a rad MI I step thru (2019) WITH ORIGINAL BATTERY. first, are your aftermarket batteries compatable and will adapter work. Your brake upgrade from juin is awesome, by the way
excellent explanation thank you
If you need connectors or someone to solder, check your local hobby store. They will likely have any size of XT style connector in stock as they are common.
Did you ever come up with a mounting bracket for the aluminum box for for the blackbird original not the steps or version. What would be cool would be to have a controller box that’s a little taller that would handle both pieces together. Would that be possible?
Brilliant video thank you 😀
I'm going to run dual battery on a Wolf Warrior X Pro😂
06:10 is very important, thank you so much!
Can you please do a video showing us how to connect two stock Rad Rover batteries?
Excellent video thanks 👍
I would really love to see how to mount that battery and cradle on the rear rack. I’ve got the Rover.
Interesting idea! Thanks!
Thanks for your video. Could you tell me what is the advantage of connecting the batteries with this parallel connector when I can do it manually with a switch when one of the two batteries is empty
Comfort. Nothing more, nothing else. And as said, connecting a discharged battery to a fully charged one has a great chance to destroy the BMS of both due current inrush.
I believe You are The Man I Was Looking For 😂 I have an X-Class 52v 18A and 52v 20A Dual Battery , Single 1000W Bafang Motor, 33A Controller and added a 40A Battery Blender which fried My controller. Was the Battery Blender 40A Too High??
Will this connector work on standard type batteries like on the X-treme e-bikes
So this will not work for my dual 25A controller scooter?
GREAT VIDEO
Great video, thank you! 1) Does your battery combiner also allow the added battery to charge on the ebike charger? 2) If the ebike has regen during braking, will your combiner accept that as well? Thanks!
Would it work on a Bagibike? Which the battery 🔋 is outside the ebike under the seat pole?
I definitely want to see a case for it. I like extra thing-a-ma-bobs for my bike to be hidden and keep it looking tasteful
Hi there, thanks for this great video!
I guess the 30A you mentioned the adapter support is for the 2 batteries togueder, but can you confirm? 13A+10A=23A then I am ok with the 30A... am I right? Or the 30A are for each battery and could sum 60A?
What if I install one of those adapters but use it with only one battery and leave the second plug unpopulated. Can I harm something?
Thanks a lot for any answer!
Kyle, I should be taking delivery of an Aventon Adventure.2 in the next few days.
Here's what I'm looking for. I'd like to find a bracket of some sorts that would fit where the water bottle holder is, but be able to put a second Adventure battery there.
Any ideas for this old man (nearly 70)?
How about a mounting kit for the Blackbird?
Great stuff 👏 👍 👌
Any chance on the adapter for the Grin Xlr to Anderson adapter or Anderson to Cusmade for the Rapid Charger yet?
How much voltage drop across the adapter?
Awesome explained
Would you do review of performance. big game bikes battery adapter VS yours ?
Some / many bikes do not have ST90 but a Gx16 or to save complications simply use the second battery when the first one´s power is at a low level
My first battery an inbuilt one to the frame started to play up so I bought another & have been running the two connected together.When the inbuilt one drops below about 39.5 volts it cuts out so I turn on the new one that has a switch.......so far with no explosions.The odd thing is that it then seems to add charge to the inbuilt one bringing it back into the circuit.
Question, can they stay connected together during charging? of each or both packs? or does one the pack being charged need to be disconnected?
will it work with regen? and would like to see a 35A to 40A version
Will this work for a frame mounted battery such as a Magicycle which doesn't have a wire attached to it?
Do you know what connections the Ariel rider D class uses? Before I buy one I want to know if I could get an aftermarket battery for it and would this work?
Hi, new viewer here and also new to electric bikes. Purchase the Jetson Pro foldable bike on sale at Costco. It's pretty popular but doesn't have either the xt60 or xt90 connector. I want to hook another battery in parallel just for range extension. I think I'll just splice into the power cable looking for the + and - using a voltmeter and just hook up the spare battery in parallel. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Since it's a parallel connection, can you just charge one of the battery? Will it charge the 2 batteries since it's connected anyway?
Great video, very informative. The Link's are broken though.
Great gizmo… Magic in an aluminum box… Would this be compatible with a bike that has regenerative braking like the RadWagon? I don’t care if I lose the regenerative braking because I’d much rather be able to combine two batteries.
I dont think these will work with regen.
That is a interesting part what I can use when a upgrade on a second battery . You said this part can handle 30 Amp ? I have a 48 V system my Battery have 17.6 AH I would like to add a 48V 20 or more AH Battery, can your Dual Battery Connector handle my upgrade ? Also , I saw many interesting ideas on your website...do you ship to Canada ?
Thanks!
Great video. Thank you!! Gotta move first but sometime this fall, I want to add a second battery to my eBike (Polarna M4). It has a 14ah stock battery 750 watt peak 1000 watts, motor? I question that bc the highest wattage draw I've seen is 932 watts. Anyway, I get 30-36 miles on a single charge but the last 4 - 5 miles, the stock battery just doesn''t have the same "kick", in fact it's downright weak. I was going to get a bigger main battery - like 16- 18ah, but think I'd still have the same issue, just a few miles further down the road. A second battery makes the best sense. I like your new wiring set up. I'd just zip tie it to a conveniant, hopefully semi hidden area of the frame or rear rack (where I will mount the second battery). OIf you come up with a mounting strategy. Maybe one of those adjustable rubber bandings that bike lights use? That would be or could be, attached to the alum housing?
Thanks for the video and links! I recently bought an 'Lectric' style ebike w/11.2ah battery and plan on adding a rackbag battery for more range. Does the 'Dual Battery Connector' negate the GForce factory warranty, that you know of?
Also, the controller being inside the folder tube presents a problem...
That controller unit is actually a lot smaller and that box just has the controller and a lot of wires. Seems to me if you were designing a box for the twin battery mod, you should just design a box to hold both the controller and the twin battery mod in one box.
Please consider building a high performance model for running batteries in series doubling amps... Thanks....
Series would double your voltage and likely kill your motor/controller
You probably mean parallel so there is less sag when drawing from both packs simultaneously (what I was looking for too)
Can you provide a link for purchase? Thanks
Wow GREAT VIDEO Area 13
Can you please 🙏 recommend a product of yours for this installation. I have a e-scooter that's 72V 10,000 watts total that's 5000w x 2 motors the stock battery is 30AH and I want to add a 72V 15AH, how can I achieve the parallel example you mentioned in your video here. Thanks a million
It would be cool to have a mount for it but then again I'm sure zip ties will work just fine
cool gadget but i question your statement about the batteries voltages balancing at a dangerous rate. Last i checked pretty much all these batteries have built in BMS's so that should do the the same thing right? did i miss it or did you not mention mis-matched voltages( IE 36v and 48 v together) are a real bad idea IMHO as the energy lost to conversion (step up or down) makes them impractical at best and as you pointed out dangerous at worst .keep the good stuff coming and thanks much.
At some point I think I read/heard that on my ebc model c with 2 batteries that even when I have both switched on it pulls 5% of the charge from one, then the other, and so on. Is this correct? And I oven only charge one, is that a problem?
What is the connector that's on the Lancer for the extra battery?
I purchased your Parallel adapter and the X60 to X90 connectors to put two batteries on my Cheetah. However the Cheetah batteries have more than the red and black wires protruding. They also have a round black connector. How do I connect those extra wires from the batteries to the one connector on the Cheetah?
Are you able to do this with the aventon aventure?
I wish I would have seen the parallel battery connection was 30a. I have a 35a controller on the bike with two 52v 20ah.
Tell me what problem I will have if connect a parallel battery connection with my setup?
Will you be offering a 35a dual battery connector or even higher?
I need one to run dual batteries on a dual motor/controller single throttle setup
If the second battery does not have a switch is it necessary to unplug it when not using the bike or is turning off the controller sufficient?
Broken down to where this Backyard Hack feels I got a shot at a successful mission.
Question: If I were to carry two batteries, and simply unplug the spent and plug in the
fresh battery. Is there a range/performance difference?
Sort of. Since the draw will be more evenly spread you will approach the lower voltage cutoff more slowly and evenly and so get just a wee bit more range at the very end. We are talking like 1/1.5 km max
Do you have some with the t connectors? Unfortunately I have 2 batteries from China, 48v both, ones 20amp the other 15amp and one 8amp. I wanted to break down the 2 smaller to make 1 bigger than my main, but I'd be willing to just add one battery to my current system but would be worried about overloading the controller, I really would like help, I am smart enough to do it myself, but it takes time to learn it all perfectly and not mess up the first time, any advice or encouragement is much appreciated!
Now please show us how to add + connect a second on-frame battery to an ebike(esp. folding) that comes with an in-frame battery. You would no doubt have to cut a small hidden slot under the frame (4x4mm-ish) to run a slim cable through into the frame and would need the right kind of quickly separatable plug-socket set-up..
Paul G
How would this module affect charging if both batteries are connected? Should it be disconnected before charging? Thanks.
love the vid very informative personally, id rather just swap the connectors instead of the adapters 🤣
it's very simple I understand p and n to battery.. same to controller But my aventon aventure it has five terminals. when I get the battery out and takes the bottom receiver out to get to the wires I hope I can figure out what the extra wire is for. do you know this? thanks in advance
Zip-Ties are our best friend!!
I own a magic cycle and when I had of charged it for the second time the plugging in into the battery the whole piece two in the battery collapsed where the cable went straight through the battery do you know of another battery that would work like a hemi weigh
Thank
Marc
Do you think you can make a guide on dual battery for a dual motor bike?
Does it support KERS technology (kinetic energy recover system)?
Hello there! Nice Channel!!
I have a question, i Need the discharger even if i put 2 batteries with the same voltage but different amp ? ( Both 48v, One 10 Ah other One 15 ah )
Thanks!
I bought this connection for my 2 batteries and when I plug it in one of the batteries stays blue like it is working but the other one stays red like it needs to e charged but it is fully charged will it draw from one another
What happens if it's all wired up for 2 batteries but I'm only using 1 battery for a ride? Does it work like normal or would the parallel connector have to be disconnected?
It’s should be fine to use one battery on it it will be like using your original battery cable just make sure battery’s are charged fully when put both back on
My first battery an inbuilt one to the frame started to play up so I bought another & have been running the two connected together.When the inbuilt one drops below about 39.5 volts it cuts out so I turn on the new one that has a switch.......so far with no explosions.The odd thing is that it then seems to add charge to the inbuilt one bringing it back into the circuit.
All these controllers do (in addition to load balancing between two batteries) is prevent more Amps than your controller is rated for from flowing into the controller. So using one batery would be perfectly fine
Is this similar to the datex2 adapter?