I used GF to remove a huge pylon and cables in front of an oil rig (back in land for decommissioning). Very complex. It did a fantastic job. Regards, Barrie
I have found the same results and have switched between the remove tool and generative fill. These tools together are time savers. Enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Thank you for sharing Adam! I’ve already started using this. Wish I had this about five years ago. I had a shot that I took in Ireland of Pine island that reminded me of your example in the video that had telephone lines running all the way across the frame. It took a good two hours to remove them by hand, very painstakingly. Thanks
Went back and looked again at the Scotland image you posted to Flickr. My desktop monitor is not huge, but I couldn't see a hint of the power lines or pole in the image. Great tip and well used.
Not sure if you tried this Adam, but when you hit the Generate button again it creates 3 more options each time it's pressed, so you can scroll through 3, 6, 9, 12, etc., Generative layered options. Usually I find something that works by the second time though.
Here it is not a question of the best or the worst, but the right one for each one. I understand Nick and I understand Adam. I understand Nick because, like him, my workflow is almost entirely on Ps and being able to do everything there is very practical, I have all my plugins there. For Adam who uses Lr more, the Ps Beta can be interesting, open, clone, close and return to Lr but for those who use the Ps opening a file in the beta is boring, it is not practical, you have to close the Ps, open PsBeta first and then opening the file, do the magic, save, closing and reopening Ps. When the beta innovations become definitive on Ps, then yes, we can talk about the best method, until then it's a question of what is most practical for each workflow.
I hate the ‘mush’ afterward with some tools. Love the generative in beta, now they need to quit teasing us and put it in the real version so I can use my plugins. 😊 Thanks for the video Adam!
I've been using the Remove Tool in the Beta version of Photoshop for about a month or so now and absolutely love it! I'm not currently shooting landscapes though so my results are much different than yours or Nick's. I'm using it with macro images of agates, which often have various fractures, inclusions or other problems that I used to use Content Aware Fill for before trying the Remove Tool. The new tool should be even better when Adobe adds it to a production update.
I also played around a little bit with this beta-version and I am completely blown away from it. Even bigger objects can be removed easily! Only problems are with architecture, but it is really hard to calculate parts in buildings. You can also make images a little bit wider. Just make the working surface (only know the German name for it, because I use German photoshop) bigger, select the white parts around the image and generate fill. In some cases it works very well. And this is even only a first beta version. In some months/years it will develop.
@@tomheim9516 Maybe ... in photoshop go to "image" and then the 7th point in the menu. This is what I mean 🙂 Try it out, works very well in some cases!
Useful vid, Adam. I've been experimenting with both tools since their release a few weeks back. Overall, very impressed with the results. I've seen a few YT vids evaluating the pros and cons of each tool, where the consensus seemed to be that generative fill comes out best for complex removals/adjustments; the removal tool tends to fare better for simpler cases, but is still far superior to all previous Adobe removal tools. The flip side is that, at least at this stage, there is a cap on the resolution of the replacement pixels with generative fill, which can make the adjustments conspicuous in some images that involve large "patches". But generative fill is still in Beta, so this will likely change when the tool is released more broadly.
I had a problem with LrC defaulting to the beta version and not opening layers in Ps so I recently removed it. Hopefully, the generative fill tool will find its way into the release version of Ps so integration with other tools is complete.
Your panorama is spectacular! I have used the Generative Fill quite a bit and would not hesitate to do a larger section than what I previously used for Content Aware Fill. Also, the new Remove Tool can often quickly remove a distraction. It is amazing!
In Affinity Photo you also have option to use the Fill tool under Edit. With a lasso tool you select the area you want to remove and the you go to Fill tool. In there you have several options but you should chose the one that generates a believable fill. It does not give you three option like in Ps though.
It generally comes down to the "Right tool for the right job". Photoshop has an impressive arsenal for manipulation of images and most of them work very well.
Pretty advanced crowd you have Adam - but - it might have been worth a mention about HOW you get the Beta version, which of course is so easy if you have the Creative Cloud icon in your menu bar, click, go to Apps in header, down to Categories you'll see Beta apps, click, and Bob's yer uncle. Thanks for the toot. Nick must be STEAMING!
Oddly enough, I've found that making partial selections is not the best way for generative fill. For instance, the power lines should should be selected entirely or it will try to extend them into the new fill. Make sure to leave enough space around your selection
I agree that the Beta Generative Fill does a super job over the remove tool most times, but for removing things like power lines I find the good old Healing Brush in PS works great … again, if you do it in smaller sections.
There's a resolution cap on the Remove Tool right now. Not sure if it's going to remain when this feature moves over to the publicly released version or not, but that's what you're seeing. It's limited to 1280 x 1280 maximum size and then scaled up from there. For those of us with medium format cameras (I have a GFX 100s too), these new AI features are all but useless except for fixing really small details in the photos.
Adam, there are currently significant issues with the latest version of PS Beta, 25.0 and there are 600+ threads on the Adobe forum covering this issue! TBH with what you're showing here with generative fill in bits I'd just use the remove tool in bits and it will retain the resolution too.
It's pretty amazing. I've used the Generative fill to remove a crowd of people that were in a shot at Inchcolm Abbey in Scotland. You can't get out on the island without a bunch of people so my photos came out terrible. It was amazing they way it filled in all the bits and pieces of the abbey where the people were. But funny enough in different photos it replaced the stonework around the door differently so eagle eyed views will notice the stones around the main door are different photo to photo. So an interesting tool but I'm still not 100% sure I would use it on photos i really cared about for anything but simple things.
Hi Adam. Do you have a list of all the lenses you use for the GFX system? I've about decided to get a Fuji medium format camera, but I'm trying to decide which lenses I will need. Could you recommend some? I'll primary be using it for landscapes and occasionally urban landscapes. Thank you so much. I really enjoy your videos!
I'm running Big Sur on my Mac, because Photoshop slows down nearly to a stop in Monterey, especially when I'm running a Photoshop add-on such as Topaz. The problem with using Big Sur is that the Remove Tool doesn't work. I've looked around Net for explanations for the Monterey slow down and find only "you must be doing something wrong" comments. Adobe provides a couple useless suggestions and seems content to blame the end user, rather than solving the problem. (I'm assuming that it remains in Ventura but haven't verified this.) So, I can't use the Remove Tool, which actually isn't that big a deal. As this video demonstrates, there's a always another way of doing things in Photoshop.
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The generative fill is 1024x1024, if larger area is generated, it's just stretched so the quality drops.
good to know, thanks!
That explains why with 100mpx GFX files the results are often pretty iffy
DekeNow th-cam.com/video/aQCOiwcqp24/w-d-xo.html gives great examples with explanations as to what's happening. Good location on the stream is 14:00
I used GF to remove a huge pylon and cables in front of an oil rig (back in land for decommissioning). Very complex. It did a fantastic job. Regards, Barrie
I saw Generative Fill open up for The Pretenders back in 79.
Thank you for all your great videos!
I have found the same results and have switched between the remove tool and generative fill. These tools together are time savers. Enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Thank you Adam. 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
Excellent info! Thanks!
Again, made my Sunday! Great info, great humor/humour...thanks.
Thank you for sharing Adam! I’ve already started using this. Wish I had this about five years ago. I had a shot that I took in Ireland of Pine island that reminded me of your example in the video that had telephone lines running all the way across the frame. It took a good two hours to remove them by hand, very painstakingly. Thanks
Went back and looked again at the Scotland image you posted to Flickr. My desktop monitor is not huge, but I couldn't see a hint of the power lines or pole in the image. Great tip and well used.
Not sure if you tried this Adam, but when you hit the Generate button again it creates 3 more options each time it's pressed, so you can scroll through 3, 6, 9, 12, etc., Generative layered options. Usually I find something that works by the second time though.
I was just checking to see if anyone else had commented this, and you did, so I won't :)
Thanks, Adam.
Wow! Thank you for this. Generative Fill is not something that I have any interest in so I would never have stumbled on this solution.
Thumbs up smashed! Looks like two great options. Thanks Adam.
You bet
This is absolutely phenomenal! Thanks for sharing that Adam.
very helpful - thank you Adam!
The intro was too funny 😅😅😅. The tool does seem to do a good job indeed. Thanks for sharing.
That’s pretty impressive - like it ✅
Thanks for the tip Adam! I will have to try it.
You bet!
Very cool... thank you
You bet
I've been trying generative fill for some illustrative images and it amazes me. Happy to see another PIL fan!
Here it is not a question of the best or the worst, but the right one for each one. I understand Nick and I understand Adam. I understand Nick because, like him, my workflow is almost entirely on Ps and being able to do everything there is very practical, I have all my plugins there. For Adam who uses Lr more, the Ps Beta can be interesting, open, clone, close and return to Lr but for those who use the Ps opening a file in the beta is boring, it is not practical, you have to close the Ps, open PsBeta first and then opening the file, do the magic, save, closing and reopening Ps. When the beta innovations become definitive on Ps, then yes, we can talk about the best method, until then it's a question of what is most practical for each workflow.
I hate the ‘mush’ afterward with some tools. Love the generative in beta, now they need to quit teasing us and put it in the real version so I can use my plugins. 😊
Thanks for the video Adam!
I've been using the Remove Tool in the Beta version of Photoshop for about a month or so now and absolutely love it! I'm not currently shooting landscapes though so my results are much different than yours or Nick's. I'm using it with macro images of agates, which often have various fractures, inclusions or other problems that I used to use Content Aware Fill for before trying the Remove Tool. The new tool should be even better when Adobe adds it to a production update.
Thanks Adam, great tool. I experience that it sometime can be a little bit hard to open the photos from LR to Photoshop Beta.
Nice PIL shirt! 🤘
You know it!
Helpful vid Adam! I been using the beta for a few weeks now and found this tool to be incredible!
I also played around a little bit with this beta-version and I am completely blown away from it. Even bigger objects can be removed easily! Only problems are with architecture, but it is really hard to calculate parts in buildings.
You can also make images a little bit wider. Just make the working surface (only know the German name for it, because I use German photoshop) bigger, select the white parts around the image and generate fill. In some cases it works very well.
And this is even only a first beta version. In some months/years it will develop.
Canvas? Great suggestion!
@@tomheim9516 Maybe ... in photoshop go to "image" and then the 7th point in the menu. This is what I mean 🙂
Try it out, works very well in some cases!
Useful vid, Adam. I've been experimenting with both tools since their release a few weeks back. Overall, very impressed with the results. I've seen a few YT vids evaluating the pros and cons of each tool, where the consensus seemed to be that generative fill comes out best for complex removals/adjustments; the removal tool tends to fare better for simpler cases, but is still far superior to all previous Adobe removal tools. The flip side is that, at least at this stage, there is a cap on the resolution of the replacement pixels with generative fill, which can make the adjustments conspicuous in some images that involve large "patches". But generative fill is still in Beta, so this will likely change when the tool is released more broadly.
Not an Adobe user but I have found that in the editor that I use , small increments work for me as well. Wind swept Nick Page... 👍 📷
Thx for this good advice Adam!👍 Btw, really nice Pano of a Landscape.❤
I had a problem with LrC defaulting to the beta version and not opening layers in Ps so I recently removed it. Hopefully, the generative fill tool will find its way into the release version of Ps so integration with other tools is complete.
Super helpful video!
Great Video Thanks 👍
Great info thanks
You bet
Your panorama is spectacular! I have used the Generative Fill quite a bit and would not hesitate to do a larger section than what I previously used for Content Aware Fill. Also, the new Remove Tool can often quickly remove a distraction. It is amazing!
Thank you for yjr insight to beta
Great video buddy, very handy
Thanks 👍
Looks very useful! I use Affinity Photo and the in-painting brush. Not quite as easy as the generative fill.
Good to know!
In Affinity Photo you also have option to use the Fill tool under Edit. With a lasso tool you select the area you want to remove and the you go to Fill tool. In there you have several options but you should chose the one that generates a believable fill. It does not give you three option like in Ps though.
Fingers crossed Adobe take the hint and create a "Generative Remove" tool - best of both worlds
It generally comes down to the "Right tool for the right job". Photoshop has an impressive arsenal for manipulation of images and most of them work very well.
Pretty advanced crowd you have Adam - but - it might have been worth a mention about HOW you get the Beta version, which of course is so easy if you have the Creative Cloud icon in your menu bar, click, go to Apps in header, down to Categories you'll see Beta apps, click, and Bob's yer uncle. Thanks for the toot. Nick must be STEAMING!
Oddly enough, I've found that making partial selections is not the best way for generative fill. For instance, the power lines should should be selected entirely or it will try to extend them into the new fill. Make sure to leave enough space around your selection
Absolutely … good point 😊
Whatever works for you I’m all for it
I agree that the Beta Generative Fill does a super job over the remove tool most times, but for removing things like power lines I find the good old Healing Brush in PS works great … again, if you do it in smaller sections.
Hey whatever it takes
There's a resolution cap on the Remove Tool right now. Not sure if it's going to remain when this feature moves over to the publicly released version or not, but that's what you're seeing. It's limited to 1280 x 1280 maximum size and then scaled up from there. For those of us with medium format cameras (I have a GFX 100s too), these new AI features are all but useless except for fixing really small details in the photos.
Interesting, that wasn’t my experience but hey whatever works for you
Adam, there are currently significant issues with the latest version of PS Beta, 25.0 and there are 600+ threads on the Adobe forum covering this issue! TBH with what you're showing here with generative fill in bits I'd just use the remove tool in bits and it will retain the resolution too.
No doubt, but significant? I didn’t notice any problems.
Hi Adam. Is there a way to open PS Beta from lightroom, can only see the normal PS options
You would have to change it in LR preferences but then you would lose the ability to open regular PS from Lightroom.
It's pretty amazing. I've used the Generative fill to remove a crowd of people that were in a shot at Inchcolm Abbey in Scotland. You can't get out on the island without a bunch of people so my photos came out terrible. It was amazing they way it filled in all the bits and pieces of the abbey where the people were. But funny enough in different photos it replaced the stonework around the door differently so eagle eyed views will notice the stones around the main door are different photo to photo. So an interesting tool but I'm still not 100% sure I would use it on photos i really cared about for anything but simple things.
Hi Adam. Do you have a list of all the lenses you use for the GFX system? I've about decided to get a Fuji medium format camera, but I'm trying to decide which lenses I will need. Could you recommend some? I'll primary be using it for landscapes and occasionally urban landscapes. Thank you so much. I really enjoy your videos!
I’m currently using the 20-35mm, 45-100mm and the 100-200mm plus the 1.4 teleconverter
Tricky.
I'm running Big Sur on my Mac, because Photoshop slows down nearly to a stop in Monterey, especially when I'm running a Photoshop add-on such as Topaz. The problem with using Big Sur is that the Remove Tool doesn't work.
I've looked around Net for explanations for the Monterey slow down and find only "you must be doing something wrong" comments. Adobe provides a couple useless suggestions and seems content to blame the end user, rather than solving the problem. (I'm assuming that it remains in Ventura but haven't verified this.)
So, I can't use the Remove Tool, which actually isn't that big a deal. As this video demonstrates, there's a always another way of doing things in Photoshop.
Sorry to hear
@@QuietLightPhoto What do you do? One day, I'll afford a Studio Mac and it won't matter.
I could be wrong, I could be right.
How dare you disagree with me!!!!!!!!! 😅
hehe, truth hurts man
😂
Hey, this sounds familiar 😂❤
Whatever😘😆
One wire at a time might be better...
A bit disappointing😕 I was hoping to see you removing other landscape photographers from your pictures😆
I don’t have to nobody wants to head out with me
What's a 'bather' version?
no idea
The intro was too funny 😅😅😅. The tool does seem to do a good job indeed. Thanks for sharing.