How to walk through walls using the 4th Dimension [Miegakure: a 4D game]
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- An explanation of how walking through walls would actually look like if you could move in 4D, using the 4D video-game Miegakure (miegakure.com)
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In this game the fourth dimension is not time, it is a fourth dimension of space. So if you count time the game is a 5D game. It is a correct representation of a fourth spatial dimension.
Yeah it's actually "around" walls, not "through!"
There are infinitely many 3D worlds stacked on top of each other, even if in the introductory Wall Level the ground texture makes it seem like there are only two. A more complex example is the shape at the beginning of the trailer, which is a true 4D shape called the 120 Cell, as explained here: marctenbosch.co...
From the perspective of a regular 3D observer standing next to the wall the player character would suddenly disappear, and a few moments later reappear on the other side of the wall.
See also: Flatland (en.wikipedia.o...)
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You spent so much time explaining the 4th dimension the thief got away!
And it only took us two years to notice it!
@Googelplus 4th dimension strikes again!
FUCKING MIND FREAK WITH HERE
QUIT BREAKING THE 4TH WALL
GTA Player You mean the 3-dimensional wall?
But what if the 4th dimension IS time?
So this is less like walking through walls and more like walking around walls in a direction that we can't comprehend, if I understand correctly.
yeah, just around it
Sure but it makes sense mathematically, perhaps think of it as time and that your walking through the object after or before its existence. Of course this isn't the only way of think of a fourth dimension but I find that it works for a more familiar understanding of 4D
Matthew Noland
I get how this can exist and my original comment was not meant to find fault per say, by comprehend i don't mean understand so much as perceive. This meaning that we are going in a direction that we, as three dimensional beings spatially, cannot fully wrap our minds around. Thus we only see a small amount of the bigger picture.
Matthew Noland well that's where there are 2 paths, either the timeline dimension or another direction. Both possible theories.
Being as time is generally labeled as the 4th dimension I'd say colloquially that makes sense. Though it's more just 'time travel', as mentioned. I walk through the wall because it is not there [in a different time].
So that's where my keys went.
Luca Gacy and that's where mom found it
Nothing is lost until mom can't find it :')
Oh finally I found my car keys I didn't even break my nose this time wow
Sander Kamp Funny it's opposite. My mom and me always loose stuff and my dad is the only one who searches deep to find it.
Gazelle Samyueru YES. I LOVE YOU.
It’s a 3D game running on 2D screen designed to explain a 4D World
no, it's a 4D game where you can only see 3D slices of it while looking through a 2D screen
@@gabrielfuhr5964 You got it my man
This game looks like it would get confusing as hell in later levels
Exactly how would a new player get over the wall if he couldn’t understand where he was in terms of the wall in the desert. He would just do trial and error which wouldn’t help in later levels
I thought you said water levels, but that too.
Lol
I think this game implies that "time" is the 4th dimension: the ground with grass eventually erodes into a desert and the wall also eventually crumbles with the passing of time.
@@bee5120 it was said it isn't.
If this is sarcasm then it's bad
50% of comments - People understand exactly what's the idea of multiple dimensions.
50% of comments - People having no damn clue the hell is going on.
@Manuel Yes, pretty much. Like in real life.
Then I'm the retard thanks
Perfectly balanced, as all Things should be
50% of people have a below average IQ?
Take a shot everytime you read a comment saying the fourth dimension is time.
Does this comment count?
no you didn't say that the fourth dimension was time. But marcelodiedara's comment counts :)
it is.
*the fourth spatial dimension is time.*
only reason why we normally think of it as something special is because we can't control, or properly percieve, our movement through it.
when you think about it, it's not so dissimilar to "height", which all people kind of percieve as something special as well - we are used to moving along 2 dimensions, and we don't really (at least within the context of earth's gravity) have control over our movement along the third one (height) - you step out from a cliff, you fall down, regardless of what you try to do.
spatial dimension same as any other, but percieved as special by limited human mind just because we don't have the same level of control over our movement along it.
that's basically what the "temporal" in "fourth dimension is 'temporal'" means. it's just "we can't consciously control our position and movement within it".
otherwise, as far as I know, it's the same as the previous three, even within physics.
marcelodiedara call the paramedics
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Programmer: computer, make 3 dimensions
Computer: DONE!
Programmer: computer ,make 4 dimensions
Computer: DONE!
Programmer: but how did you do that when the universe is only 3 dimensional?
Computer: What the hell is a universe?
That computer is beyond what we can comprehend! *-*
universe is 4dimension
Kinda makes sense that they could do that because computers are already making projections of 3 dimensions even though the screen is really only two dimensional.
i think about this a lot
@@iknosabuk Hey, this comment seems familiar.
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it's actually more like fez
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I hope people realize that the rubble in the secondary third dimensional plane is more of a game design decision than real science. The main reason it's there is so the player has an easier time understanding exactly where the wall was in the parallel third dimension with the wall in it so they wouldn't have to constantly switch dimensions in order to find where it is.
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well if the 4th dimension was linked to the first 3 in a similar way that we are used to then there would be some patterns resembling this. for our universe it is hard to say this would be the case though because we don't see parts of walls crumbling into nowhere and our everyday interactions that we can mediate don't cross another dimension in easily perceivable ways. but if for example our forces are manifest through higher dimensional structures / patterns like string theory then we could see patterns across the higher dimensions. hard to conjecture on what those things are though. if we do have knowledge of it, it is not public
If somehow objects had the ability to traverse across dimensions, then the debris would make sense. Good luck explaining how inanimate objects would have that capability, though.
@@RpTheHotrod there's nothing special about living or inanimate objects. In this case the wall just broke partially. It originally covered both slices, but when it broke it fell on the other slice (the dessert one).
lol the fact that you used the word real science in your comment is laughable.
I expected to see in the comments a bunch of compliments on how amazing this game could be, but instead I saw people who have no idea what they're talking about arguing about what the 4th dimension really is.
I think this feature could really make a unique and entertaining game. You also explained the situation really well using 2D and 3D examples.
Andrew Hollomon That's what I was thinking also. It could make for a very interesting puzzle game but I feel that a game like that exists already.
Andrew Hollomon Its not that unique. Mario Party and Paper Mario essentially has this. In Mario Party there are 2d aspects in the game such as Drawing, or birds eye view. Legend of Zelda and Paper Mario did the switching between 2d and 3d awhile back.
That game would be too danm hard
The 4th dimension is time. This is irrefutable.
Gareth Lawton - time is not a spatial dimension, mr. Simpleton.
Oh god. This is the first time I saw someone do 4d properly. And make a game around it as well.
I have thought about 4d space many times and while I could understand it, I could never get intuition for it. In other words I would always have to think a lot to figure it out.
I feel as if this game could be very interesting and very confusing at the same time. Or.. just as I like it!
People are getting confused by the rubble thinking that it's time travel.
The rubble is not important. It doesn't need to be there at all, it could have been flat ground.
The point is that he went around the wall by travelling along a different axis, a 4th axis.
When the scene changed from the wall to the rubble, he didn't time travel, rather he rotated his view around an axis that you can't perceive, but it's still there.
So he's looking at a different space, one where the wall doesn't block.
He then travelled along that axis, travelled along some 3D axis as well and when he rotated his view back to it's original position, he was in a different 3D space.
Most of us don't know how 4D would look like, it's conpreensible everyone here is thinking this game is 4D, but it is not. Is more like he used time travel to reach the other of the wall when the wall was not there.
CrackKat Okay, but let's say that the fourth dimension is indeed time. This means that the man could travel forwards and backwards through this time dimension. This simulation treats the fourth dimension as if it were made up of different worlds, so you can travel to a certain point on that fourth axis to a world that doesn't have the wall, go through the empty space, and travel back. So if we treated this fourth dimension as time, it could work in a similar way: we would have two choices, go forwards in time and go backwards in time. If we go forwards, we would stop at a time where the wall has been destroyed or something, cross the empty space, and go back. If we go backwards, we could go to a time where the wall hasn't been built yet, cross the empty space, and return.
Alexander Langner Recently I watched a video about the 11 dimensions and finally I understand that there's different interpretations of dimensions above 3. Some theories even consider 20+ dimensions.
This theory you're talking about is the same that garantee the existence of parallel universes, that being the fifty dimension. If I am correct, the seventh or eighth dimension is where you have an universe with all its possibles timelines in one point. Then there's another one that states that there's alternative universes with different laws of physics.
Dude, science is amazing.
Renan Silva Yeah, and when we get past the first three dimensions, it really stops becoming about space because there can't be any more spacial dimensions, at least in our universe. And so the farther we go into the dimensions, the less and less likely they are to be real.
in this dimension you misspelled "further".
Wow, the final parts of Super Paper Mario got hella intense!
I find it funny that none of the characters in Mario paper would actually be able to see each other until they were side-by-side... If Mario is behind or in front of another character, all they would see is a flat line.. lol
How would they even know who they were talking to?
actually in a real 2 d world they would see nothing. nowhere.
@@PartisanGamer I think they would see just one color at a time
This is, hands down, the best explanation of 4D movement I've ever encountered :D
Exactly.
Couldn't agree more.
***** It really is.
+Anistuffs - The Indian Let's Player
It's an explanation of moving through multiverses, but not moving through the 4th dimension.
They have a fundamental lack of understanding of how 3D projects into 2D, thus impossible to understand how 4D projects 3D.
Magic Gonads
Okay. Do you have a link to some site which explains actual 'moving through the 4th dimension' instead of 'moving through multiverses'? I'm not demeaning your opinion BTW, I'm genuinely willing to understand how movement through 4th dimension would work.
But steel’s heavier than feathers...
I don’t get it
Baht steel is heavieh than fethahs...
lohk at teh size o dat thinn tats cheatinn
in the vacuum, steel and feathers fall at the same time
ill try to explain so when you are a 2d character and for some reason cant jump and there is a wall in front of you but then you got in the 3d and you move forward and backwards but the wall is one block thicc you can go right through it because up down u know?
alright now just put that as being a stupid 3d organism and you can some how shift to the 4d
SIDE NOTE:we probably think that 4d is time but there is other people who call it a "tesseract" so if you want to be weird you can call it going through the 5d
@Xilo Two pounds of feathers is twice as heavy as one pound of steel, what are you even talking about?
*In this game the fourth dimension is not time.*
In this game there are four dimensions of space and one of time instead of three dimensions of space and one of time.
Just like in the 2D/3D example, both the desert and the grass are happening at the same time, like parallel worlds.
In this game, time is the **fifth** dimension! (If you absolutely want to number things)
can u comment link to this game??
The game is not out yet but you can subscribe to any of the social media links at the bottom of miegakure.com to know when it is out!
Then what dimension is time? Because time is clearly passing. Is it the fifth?
Yeah! In this game, time is the *fifth* dimension!
some guys say it's not a dimension, as it affects all dimensions equally.
I tried explaining a theoretical 4th dimension to a few friends of mine, and their mind was blown, but every time I see a demonstration of how intricate 3d really is my mind gets blown again. This game looks amazing.
When I tried explaining it to my friends, and they were arguing about whether the fourth dimension was time, or the soul. They didn't even consider the possibility of it being a direction.
@@godlyvex5543 the soul? Lmaooo
"Third Dimension?! I can't picture that! You're dumb." - Flatlander from Futurama
"Forth Dimension?! I can't picture that! You're dumb." - Commenters
4th dimension is time
no, it is not. It's a fourth spatial dimension. It's a mathematical concept, not physical one. A, 1d object is a bunch of 0D objects stacked togheter(a line is a bunch of poins), a 2d object is infinitely many 1d objects stacked up (square is (not an empty square), is a bunch of lines togheter), a 3d object is a bunch of 2D objects togheter(a cube is a bunch of squares stacked togheter), a 4d object is a bunch of 3D objects togheter(a hypercube is a bunch of cubes togheter). The only difference between the fourth dimension and the other ones is that we can't see or imagine full objects in the fourth dimension, only it's shadows in 3D space, which are not plane shadows, like our, but shadows that have volume.
Walther Wennholz Johnson Things can move through time, as 2d objects can move through the 3rd one
Ignacio Romero never said they couldn't. But that is not the case here. if it were the case, then at the beginning, when we see him moving inside a 4d 120-cell, his ambient would get "older" or "younger", but the only thing that happens are spatial changes. If you can't grasp the concept of a 4d space, then I will not lose my time with you. Try to understand this again after studying some maths.
You are a dumb person who thinks this makes sense because to you inteligent concept or thaught is indistinguishable from magic
_Meanwhile in an alternate universe_
So basically we can walk through walls using the 8th dimension, and we're just characters on a 7D-plane?
Not like that...
But just like that.
Sounds like people in twin towers in that universe are safe and sound.
Wouldn't that just be the 7th dimension, not an alternate universe?
@@Xedlord But our universe only has 3 macroscopic spatial dimensions
I just tried this and it didnt work . The wall was still there .
r/whoooosh
@BeanJohnAlzahrani nah take this uno reverse card
It's a wooshception
what fuck
try harder
I've been sitting here for 10 minutes trying to think of the 4th dimension without time. Then it clicked when I remembered that the rubble wasn't from a degrading wall but rubble that fell off the current(still there wall)wall into the 4th dimension. Holy smokes I'm glad I figured this out
Good job! People here sure get confused about that...
Miegakure just because the transition has a directional effect whose to say it's not time. I believe the time is just as directional as space. Perhaps I'm over looking something, but can the wall really crumble from a 3D plane of existence into a 4D plane without time being involved if so how?
I see it!!
Thanks mate
UnspokenDG so are you saying that some rubble got into a parallel world?
Matthew Noland a wall that appeared 2d to that character can have rubble fall in 3 dimensions. I dont see why it couldn't fall into a fourth.
basically 4th dimension is a lot of 3rd dimensional planes pancaked together, it is like 3d that is just a lot of 2d planes pancaked together and 2d with 1d
Finally someone who can comprehend what 4th dimention is.
this videos has helped me with this a lot, I heard that it is cool to see 4D object with VR headseat and interact with it, I hope I will have a chance to do it sometimes :)
that also helped me
marctenbosch.com/news/2017/06/4d-toys-a-box-of-four-dimensional-toys/
From the same creator.
Nadya Nayme that's also very interesting video, thanks for sharing
This is insanely hard to even begin to comprehend, but somehow someone actually designed this.........
I am always in awe of how complex of a concept the human mind can comprehend by a coherent learning process
Maybe a 2 dimensional being is making a 3D game at the moment... Or a 4 dimensional being is making a 5D game.
The thing is where the fuck are 2d beings in the universe?
And a 5th-dimensional being has completed, has not started, and is still making a 6D game.
Technically speaking the rendering of all of this still remains 2D as far as our physical reality goes..... We're projecting on a computer screen, we're not '3D printing real worlds' so to speak.
Yep, Maybe we are that 3D game.. or maybe we are a retro game that 4D beings play on their nintendo.
BenAddict19 that's one top quality A rated game
Am I the only one that understands what's going on in this game? I'm in awe about the idea of this.
+Coti5432 What about the ones who created this game? Do they understand what's going on?
+Coti5432 I get this! I'm so happy that i can even comprehend some of this concept.
This reminds me of the concept of Super Paper Mario for the Wii. That game honestly helped me understand how dimensions worked when I was a younger kid
god i need to rebuy that game, so many memories.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW LONG I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS VIDEO I LOST IT AND COULD NEVER FIND IT AGAIN
From reading the comments, I think society is not prepared for this kind of game yet.
mrik
well the creator isnt really making it exactly like how it would be either. so. makes it confusing
I know right? How dare society not be able to imagine life in four dimensions!
Eiahfou
It's not that, it's fine if you don't understand, but people (understood as the masses) tend to not even wanting to understand, they don't try to connect, and if they think an aspect of the concept they're trying to understand is wrong will immediately believe they are right, the postmodern society recesses philosophy (first philosophy, then the understanding of these concepts). And of course they also can't and don't want to understand it.
You dont play a puzzle game by first knowing how to solve each puzzle, you learn as you go. There is no "preparation" that needs to be made before this game can be played.
1970s: 2D games
1990s: 3D games
2014: 4D games
2030: 5D games
2060: 6D games
2090: 7D games
2100: 8D games
2130: 9D games
2160: *10D GAMES*
2020: covid-19 games
@@yeetionary 2180s: 11D
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People. Stop fucking saying the fourth dimension is time. The game is incorporating a theoretical fourth spatial dimension, on top of three spatial dimensions and one time dimension, like that which we have in the real world. You need to understand that time and space are considered two fundamentally different properties of a universe (I am ignoring the fact that the two are linked in the real world in odd ways, though I'm sure that Marc will not be taking relativity into account in his game). Plus, it's philosophically wrong to even say that time is our 'fourth dimension', when it could just as easily be considered the first, with the three spatial dimensions being the second third and fourth.
By the way, this video was a fantastic explanation. It's nice to get a clear visual to associate with the dimension-flipping animation.
Gremby Ikr
The 4th dimension really is about time, bro. This game has no changing in dimensions. It is simply a sectionized map. "Oh no! there is a fucking wall. Better check if it has an end... well what do you know? It does end." It is not traveling through dimensions. Sorry to break it to you :v
if you think about it, after waiting 50,000 years, a wall would probably change and you could then walk forward, just like in the game!
but... it is time. If its not, he can define the space as anything he wants to be without limitations, without taking account any forces like gravity, space, or conservation of energy. If its a spacial field, then they would interact with each other. But hes illustrating it like the planes are entirely separated.
0:45 You should put some levels of this 3D version in your game, it would be a good introduction to the mechanics.
Also how is it going?
You lost me at hey
I've watched a couple of 4th dimension video's every now and then, you are the first one to make me understand it, good job! :D
"Imagining the Fourth Dimension" by 10thdim.
Good stuff.
lol what do u mean
no. here, the 5th dimension is time instead, and the 4th dimension is another spatial one like the first 3.
It's a video that is very good at explaining the fourth dimension.
They guy in the channel has a theory of 10 dimensions, he has step by step videos on how to imagine each of them.
Evil Paragon 2 Ohh I might check it out sometime soon :)
I just imagined 4D minecraft
It was very [ERROR : REDACTED]
There actually is a Minecraft map inspired by this game called "The Hypercube", which is why I found out about this game in the first place lol. It was pretty hard to grasp at the start, even with the great tutorial provided, but it becomes much clearer as you progress
actually there is a map of 4d minecraft, i've seen a ytber playing the map
Daffa_FM Hypercube
Minecraft have 4 dimensions. The floating blocks and trees are just slices of the 4th dimension shape.
Edit: just a theory
In mother Russia, wall walks through you.
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I understood it on 2D to 3D but I can't conceive it on 3D to 4D...
The last ep of StarTrek TNG
"We wanted to see if you had the ability to expand your mind and your horizons - And for one brief moment you did.
For that one fraction of a second you were open to options you had never considered. That is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars or studying nebulae - but charting the unknown possibilities of existence."
It's hard to understand the latter because we cannot percieve the 4º dimention with our sensorial organs. It's hard to conceive something that cannot be seen on our plane. This video might help you, if you want to understand more:
Imagining the Tenth Dimension part 1 of 2
Another way to think about the 4th dimension is time itself. Let's say the wall is in your way, but you can travel through time (the 4th dimension). You travel to the past, before the wall was built. Now you can cross to the other side, but the girl is no longer there. At this point, you "simply" travel back to the future, (Great scott!) and you're together. This game is about 4 spatial dimensions, though, so this means of thinking may not apply to all puzzles.
It's totally normal, I have myself (and most of us) some difficulties to understand it. Even with 3D programs, it still look really weird. But that's because we use a 2D surface to represent a 3D object from the 4th dimension...
It's actually really simple. I'll explain through analogy.
You know time. Time is thought of sometimes as a 4th dimension. Notice how as you move through time things change, and if you could move back in time you'd be moving in the other direction in that dimension, but because it's time you can't.
BUT, if we were able to traverse a 4th SPACIAL dimension (which isn't necessarily incompatible with time!) then you could see 3D things "change" in bizarre ways that have nothing to do with cause-and effect, and you could move back and forth on the 4th spacial axis freely, unlike time.
It may be that our universe is stuck on an impenetrable 4-dimensional sphere and that's why we never see this happening, because we are locked into our 3D existence like a 2D drawing on a piece of paper.
I don’t understand why people think the fourth dimension is time - it’s just another space. It reminds me of in Flatland when the Square is trying to explain the 3rd dimension to his 2D son. “It’s like our normal directions, but we can move up... not like north, but... up”
That’s how 4D works, we just add an extra dimension. We can move “up” from the 2D plane but not in the way we think of up
Better example would be the crosssection explanation. For example, if you were to take a Tesseract (the 4D version of our cube) and drop it into our third dimension, it would appear as if the cube is changing sizes. It sounds weird but it’s like the MRI scan showed in the video - the brain is a 3D structure but we are only seeing 2D cross sections, thus it appears as if it’s changing and morphing in size.
We found those video back from 2013 if I'm not mistaken while we're drunk, and I think that's where they get the idea.
I love flatland
The “4th” dimension is nothing like a 4th dimension should be labeled as, this is more like a alternate relate that exists non comprehend able on the same plane, this is what Hollywood would call an alternate dimension not the 4th
Well the theory is that time seems to behave just like any other dimension. You can have length, position, velocity etc. We behave differently through time compared to the other dimensions, as we have a set speed as if we were on some kind of time train. If you think of a 2d world with time as the third dimension represented on a graph it would just look like a regular 3d graph, and then think of a graph with 4 axis it might make sense.
@@mattrowlands5751 well, if you add a time dimension in a 4D spacial dimension. It's the same as 3D + 1 Time D
You're pretty good at explaining things. You'd make a great teacher.
I do not understand how some people do not understand this, his explanation and example made it extremely easy to understand what is going on.
I think I finally get it, so I can't see the 4th Dimension because my mind can't comprehend it or isn't able to but I can still see the distortion it makes in the 3D Dimension. The world isn't really changing, it was always like the 3D dimension in the 2D world but because we can't see new possibilities we don't know it's there.
One of the few people that understand it.
Teh_ Wurst Actually, in reality, there aren't four dimensions of objects like this. This game is showing us what it would be like if there was another dimension other than length, width, and height, that all objects had. In reality our fourth dimension is time. So a fourth dimensional object is any object you see in front of you. It is a 3D cutout of a 4D object already, where the fourth dimension is every single spot it has been through time. If we could see a fourth dimension, we would be able to see where it was and where it would be, infinitely. Games like these are good representations of what four dimensions of space would look like if we had them.
That is true. But i never said this is not true. I agreed with the top comment, which if you check it, is also true.
It is indeed very interesting. But why did you start your sentence with "Actualy"?
but even if you can see 4th dimension the game would still look the same because it didn't actually render the 4th dimension, just like the 2d game even tho we can see in 3d it still looks weird when it transitions because it doesn't render the 3rd dimension , you can find renderings of the 4th dimension online but it still looks really weird ,you only really get to understand 4d if you use a vr set to interact with it .
I thought this was going to be one of those esoteric dimensional vids warning me about 6th dimensional bees. Cool game
yeah the 7th, you ignorant fucktard
Yeah, the 7th 8the 9th...
Off topic: I love everyone being utterly confused about 4d being time. Hes talking about spacial dimentions
On topic: Interesting, Its taking me a while, but I can almost entirely understand how it would work. If he were to stand on the direct middle point of the two "Dimensions," things might get a little weird (Being only 1 across)
You could still consider the 4th dimension in this game being time. Considering the wall example, you move backwards in time to a point before the wall was created, walk to the "other side", then switch back to the present. You could also move to the future, to a point where the wall has decayed and crumbled and the vegetation has died, much like in the example, and walk across the rubble before returning to the present.
***** Not really, this is just a bad example. And if you did call time the fourth, what would you call the next spacial dimension up?
There was an example where a ring was moved 4 dimensionaly. wouldn't changing something in earlier times cause holes in logic? I.e. moving the ring forward in time would cause it to never have to be moved in the first place.
All in all, its just simpler to say "4 Spacial Dimensions and 1 Time dimension"
Matthew Davis Wow actually it would make sense if the 4th dimension in the game was time, because of the rubble that presumably is the collapse of the wall that will happen in the future. There was no reason why there would be a pile of rubble there if the 4th dimension was spacial, unless the 2nd 3D world that he stepped into just so happened to have a line of rubble where the wall would be in the original 3D world.
brandon tan A time travel game would be kinda cool. But still, Time and Space should be represented as separate dimension "sets"
***** "Considering the wall example, you move backwards in time to a point before the wall was created"
...I know what you think but it isn't that.
It's like 3-D worlds/matrixes/slices in a row, you can move back and fourth but your X-Y-Z position stays the same while the W changes.
See this is the proper way to explain dimensions, unlike all the other fake youtube videos that are just clickbait
Trying to understand 4D completely and picturing it in my head (which doesn't work), makes my head feel like it's going to explode
it took me a minute, but after realizing the 3d world and 2d world are one and the same I figured out the comparison. it makes sense now
thanks, youtube recommendations!
I completely grasped the idea of walking along 4th axis that we are not able to comprehend. I first watched this video a few years ago and I still rewatch it from time to time because this is so far the most precise and colorful explanation for people who are not specialists in geometry.
And still I can understand people who are excited about the idea that this is time travel. This is indeed a very attractive yet deceptive idea, and for us, people, it’s hard to get rid of wrong ideas that explain something perfectly (as it seems to us).
I also would like to know whether there is a connection between non-Euclidean geometry and the 4th dimension - maybe other people commenting this video have more profound knowledge than I do - it’d be great to hear your explanation.
Funny that your representation of the transition between 3 and 4 dimensions is pretty much exactly how I have envisioned it.
Just found out about your game, by the way, through Computerphile.
Its so fascinating, it seems so excessively hard to imagine a 4th plane of existence for a 3d person, even when explained so clearly.
Not hard, impossible.
You can visualize a 2d projection of a 3d projection of a 4d world though
I would play that 2d game so hard. Please make it.
Edit: The first part of the game should be the 2d version. That would teach the user the concept.
It's included in the game, but it's not the first part. It actually works better a little bit later, once you can use it to answer any questions tyou might have about the 4D.
I'm going to get this game. Looks so good.
Play Fez
jon culp Then you're just playing FEZ.
Super Paper Mario?
Nice to see someone talk about the _4th spatial_ dimension.
This is very different from the time dimension, which people often like to bring up.
4D space is sometimes drawn by imagining the 4th dimension as a colour spectrum, which itself is a function of the x-, y- and z-coordinates.
This gives you a bit of a feel for different "distances" in the 4th spatial dimension, since you can for example think of "red" as "very close" and "violet" as "very far away".
yesss, finally someone who understands the difference between the 4th spatial dimension and the temporal dimension lol
I'm just plain sad realizing that while I understand it a human brain simply isn't wired correctly to visualize it
Lol don't be too hard on yourself. Our universe is 3D (yes, I know time is the 4th dimension but it's not a spatial dimension and is different from the remaining three, and this world has 4 spatial dimensions, unlike ours), which is why our brains comprehend the world in 3D. From an evolutionary perspective, spending precious energy on visualizing something that doesn't even exist is very unfavorable :P
Feynstein 100
Time is NOT the 4th dimension. It’s different from a dimensional layer.
@Mr Leprechaun Dude, I literally said that. Time is not a spatial dimension and you can't move freely in it. Do you even read? 😂
@Johannes Dickenson What makes you say that? The conjecture of whether or not time is a dimension seems to be an open question. From our perspective, time is very different from our 3 dimensions of space, but it could be quite different in other circumstances. Photons, as far as we know, don't even experience time.
@Johannes Dickenson Please refrain from insults. They contribute nothing to the discussion and only add toxicity. Now, as far as I know, special relativity proves that we live in a 4-dimensional world with three dimensions of space and one of time. It's in the equation of the invariant space-time interval (x^2 + y^2 + z^2 -(ct)^2 = constant). I don't see how the equation could be interpreted in a way that renders time as not a dimension. Perhaps you know of such an interpretation and wouldn't mind sharing it with us?
And my brain made BOOOOM!!!!
cool
*Yes! Finally a tutorial, I've been looking for this.. now no walls gonna stop me from getting out of quarantine!*
Imagine the 4D being purposely place a wall to stop you, so you need 5 dimensional movement to walk through it.
@@B58-Minecraft And a 5D being places a wall to stop you, so you would need the 6th dimension to walk around it.
it's possible that I've already commented this here (multiple times, in fact), but this is (still) the best explanation of extra dimensions I've ever found.
i mean, besides "imagining the 10th dimension" series, but that one goes much further, and with a different intention, and focuses on a different point of view on the whole thing.
Super Paper Mario anyone?
Yup.
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FIRST thing I thought! My favorite has always been Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Old Door!
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This is a great explanation! Love the 2D character's perspective. Very enlightening, thank you!
uh...I still dont get what happening lol. Someone help, I understood the 2D/3D comparison but was immediately lost again back in the 4th dimension.
+DLuX I think as long as you get the 2D/3D, you mostly get it. There's not much more to it besides "it's somehow the same."
+Miegakure I'd rather think about it like some portal to a parallel world where stuff is basically the same, but also different. In this case, the wall's just rubble now, and when you come back, you're at the other side.
+DLuX He essentially time-traveled to when the wall was so old that it had disintegrated, and then walked across the boundary left behind by the wall, then "rewound" time to his starting position.
Another way to think about it is the TH-cam progress bar. The progress bar represents your current position in a video, but not a spatial position! Instead, it uses space to represent time. At the start of the player character's video, let's say January 1st, 1410, there is a wall blocking his path. Where normally there is nothing the player could do, in this game you can control the time period you're in, and so you can "fast forward" to, say, May 5th, 2235. At that point, the wall has turned to rubble, so you cross said rubble, and "rewind" back to January 1st, 1410. The player controls this using space, just like they do with the TH-cam progress bar, by first moving it "forward" (to the right in a video), then back (to the left). In the game, this is represented by turning in a "new," temporal direction. Movement keys don't move you up/down, left/right or forward/backward, but instead before/after. I hope this explanation helped.
+batfan1939 That is a pretty logical explanation... but I still don't believe that the first three dimensions are directions, and everything above the third is not a direction. Flat creatures would say that the third dimension is time, too.
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It looks like he time-travelled, but what if nearby there's a desert-y area where the wall crumbled?
Prolly a paralel dimension where it's like that.
I loved the concept, the explanation and the distortion effect when you change dimensions!
You could totally go around that wall, just expand the levels boundaries. Come on game developers, get it together.
what if it's a square wall
No, you can imagine the wall has an infinite length, it would still work
Miegakure
* In this game the fourth dimension is not time, it is a fourth dimension of space. So if you count time the game is a 5D game. It is a correct representation of a fourth spatial dimension.
Exactly!!
You seem to know a lot of things about dimensions! Keep it up, we would like to see more videos! :)
+CornerrecordZ Or a 4+1
+CornerrecordZ I don't know anything but what if time, as calculated to be the 4th dimension, is because we are calculating in a 3D space so time is an additional vector to that?
So, a 4D being would calculate time as being 5D in relation to him.
Dban One No, as of now, we live in a 3+1 dimensions world, 3 dimensions that behave in the same way, and one that behaves different, Which would be 3 spatial dimensions and 1 time dimension.
You just need to add another spatial dimension, and time would be the same, a 4S+1T
Or better illustrated by this video /watch?v=M9sbdrPVfOQ
Dban One The general idea of time was... Things are moving, therefore we can measure how much time passed...
Or we can relate a constant movement to all the other movements (that constant movement is the clock ticking) and therefore we can express that relation with "seconds".
Then we found something... We found that, to be in acceleration or to be in a strong gravitational field ... is the same!
To be falling with ever increasing speed (acceleration) at a zero gravitational field is the same as staying stationary (zero acceleration speed) but stationary in a strong enough gravitational field!
That changed physics forever! What was the relation of acceleration in zero G with zero acceleration at some amount of G?
Einstein understood (from the special relativity) that, speed and gravity change time! A close to lightspeed travel with slow time down. A big enough gravitational field will also slow time down even if there is no acceleration at all.
What was the relation? Einstein was thinking for ages when he finally understood how space and time and speed and gravity all come very well together. If you picture time as a dimension and combine it with space. Spacetime! Einstein had discovered General Relativity! He became a Rock star of science!
And here is where I also lose the ability to keep up with all this... I'm not really sure if spacetime that was introduced by Einstein had 4 or 3 dimensions of space. But Einstein said that to distinguish space from time has no meaning. That means that we can only have a dimension of spacetime and not a dimension of time or a dimension of space...
The way I see it (but I can also be wrong) is that Einstein was talking about another dimension of space, that the only way we can "feel" it "experience" and "measure" it is by introducing time. That "time" is something that doesn't exist (space does exist) and time is the only way for us to understand the 4th dimension of space.
But I can also be wrong... I cannot really speak with good certainty...
forces arent really the same. They apply force to objects in a similar way, but not the same. acceleration applies force but mass moving in relation to other portions of mass (even itself) and gravity applies force but attracting mass towards other mass, reducing energy states as low as possible.
Can you show what this would look like to a spectator who's fourth dimension was locked?
In other words, if the woman was standing on top of the wall watching the man cross it by the 4th, what would she see?
Yeah, I will do this at some point.
good question.
I don't think it's possible to represent that as we cannot really percieve a 4th spatial dimension, if there really is such a thing. But I'm interested to see whatever he comes up with.
look at what Mario sees when he travels in the 3rd dimension , in his perspective the wall and the girl disappear because he's able to see just a 2D plane which is different than the initial one , same concept applies in the fourth dimension , check out 4D toys cause in that game you observe 4D objects from a 3D perception
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Brilliant idea. While today the game looks quite simple, I can't even imagine, how many ways there are to use 4D transformations in a more complex scenarios. Looking forward to play released game, and I hope that this genre will evolve.
So going back to the 2D world if you were to look at another 2Dp person you would only see their front side of them or their skin. But if you were to turn in the 3rd dimension walk forward and turn again you would see your friend but at a 90 degree angle. So instead of seeing your friend you would see a layer of skin on top then parts of their insides and skin again in a vertical line(that is how 2D beings see). My thinking in that wouldn't this bee the same for us 3D beings. We look at our 3D friends see skin turn into the 4th dimension walk forward and turn so that now we are looking at them at 90 degrees. Wouldn't we only see a slice of them? In your representation at 3:02 both people are shown as we normally even though they shouldn't have any fourth-dimensional depth. Your videos have gotten me very interested in the fourth dimension and I will get your game as soon as it comes out (no rush).
This is so cool! It sort of makes sense but sort of not because I have no idea how to visualize a fourth world
It's hard at first but once you do a bit more research it gets easier
wrong... the 4d world is impossible to understand. its like a 2d figure trying to understand the 3d. A 2d figure does not believe there is an up or a down because height literally does not exist in a 2d world. No such thing of height for a 2d world. we have no idea what direction a 4d world is because it doesnt exist to us.
Donnell Blakey I didn't mean you could ever actually visualize it, I meant it gets easier to understand the concept, and how it would work and interact with our dimensional plane. You never understand which way the extra direction is pointing, but you can still understand a lot without knowing that.
irock296 kind of, but how can we understand something that doesn't exist?
Donnell Blakey We can understand futuristic technologies from the future, even though we can't know how they work and what research it took to get there, can't we?
Literally this explains the dimensions better than everything else. Thank you for your hardwork.
this isn't how the fourth dimension really works, sorry to burst your bubble... but it is a cool concept :D
Nate Lockyer Dude literally noone really knows what 4th dimension really look like or what it is, everything about it is just a theory depended on other dimensions we know. So w/e
The most substantial theory states that four-dimensional space is a series of three dimensional "moments", just as 3d space is made up of infinite 2D "moments". Steven Hawking has a paper on this, so maybe do your research on what the top end scientists believe is the "fourth dimension" before calling me retarded. That comment wasn't meant as a show of smarts, rather to let Gabi know that this isn't what is widely accepted as the "true" fourth dimension, and that it is just a game mechanic.
Ano Nymous take a look deeper. Dimensions is about perspective, One who live by the first dimension cant know or see the other higher dimensions, we cant too but in this gameplay 4th dimension is like warping in. You know the mcharacter is some sort of time traveler or 4th dimensional being cause he is using 4th dimensional passage to bypass 3th dimension terrain. We dont know yet but surfing through dimension would be like time travel cause every dimension has its own objects characteristics and time probably. So cause of that own perspectives it would be like warping. There could be 4th dimensional or higher spaces everywhere but we cant see them and I dont think we will ever see it.
Yes, but it is generally accepted that the 4th dimension is time. The order doesn't really matter, but it goes point, x, xy, xyz, time, double time (x time), flat time (xy time), cube time (xyz time) infinity(xyztime time), double infinity, flat infinity, etc etc. At least thats how i understand it. There's a really good video on it called "imagining the ten dimensions" or something.
This made me understand it now.. Thank you. I have been trying to find a video to really explain HOW this works, like this game did. At first I was looking at clips of some gameplay and I was not understanding anything, but this video again, cleared some levels of confusion. Can't wait to see in the future timeline if we get to experience more 4 dimensional nature.
Imagine playing this in VR....confusing lv 10000
I don't major in physics or math but from a logical standpoint... I kind of ticks me off that people are going nuts about the "is the 4th dimension a spatial one or is it time". I mean... I'm just saying what I think, but it seems rather dumb to go around defining the "4th" dimension.
It's just the 4th on the list... In the video, he seems (and also the game, I'm inclined to believe) to be talking about an extra spatial dimension.
For example, in a 2D game, the third dimension is time, or to be even more suggestive, who's to say that time isn't the first dimension? and X and Y are the 2nd and 3rd (or in whatever order). The order is identifiable due to perspective and is thus subjective.
It's not as if you'd have first experience the width and height before being able to conceive depth. If we create a 2D world, we get to decide which set of dimensions are used there.
Furthermore, the idea behind dimesions (correct me if I'm mistaken) is that from any point you can move along (not physically obviously) any or multiple dimension without any regards to the order of the dimensions. E.g. say in a 10D world an object should be able to move along all dimesions without needing to know whether it's currently following the 5th or 8th or both dimesions.
So... All in all.. Arguing about whether time is the "4th" dimension, I think we can all agree, that time is a dimension and the order number is based on perspective. What's important is that when we think of something, we understand what set of collections is used. So for physics time is considered the 4th, but for some areas of math 4th dimesion is a spatial one.
I'm guessing we could use the analogy of a skyscraper with multiple elevators between floors. East is still east and west is still west in all the floors, but the scenery is unique in each floor.
Hence, if there's a wall dividing east and west on the 1st floor, we take an elevator up to the 2nd floor, walk across to the other side and then take another elevator back down to the 1st floor.
The difference is we don't need to use elevators, and we can somehow transport between floors causing the scenery to change as we move, but east is still east, and west is still west.
Next, imagine the coffee mug on the 1st floor and wine glass on 2nd floor are a single object. Hence if you push the coffee mug on the 1st floor, the wine glass moves on the 2nd floor. Also the size of each floors does not have to be consistent.
Pankour Laut THANK YOU THAT MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE HOLY FUCK
This is a pretty helpful analogy! The idea that I think you're trying to get across is that in this game, you don't really "take an elevator" exactly, but instead you turn so that you're facing vertically and walk up and down between floors, before turning again to face the "normal" direction.
Samuel Tan That's basically what an elevator does. It's just that you can use the elevator whenever and wherever.
what?
Yes, that's what's happening in this game and it's a cool stepping stone to understanding 4D. But it's not quite 4D, in the same way as jumping between two parallel sheets of paper is not quite 3D (hat-tip: Konata). For real 4D: th-cam.com/video/0t4aKJuKP0Q/w-d-xo.html
Can we just take a moment at how satisfying the transition when you switch dimension?
So it's FEZ but 4D?
was wondering the same thing, which came first?
FEZ came out in April 13, 2012.
No, FEZ displays a projection, Miegakure displays a slice. It's FEZ without the background.
@Mark But there's no 4th dimension in FEZ.
FEZ is still one of my favourite games of all time, damn. Something about it just felt peaceful, like my mind is put to ease whenever I play it. The pixel art was amazing, the locations felt serene... Fuck, now I want to play it again.
I will definitely be using this next time I escape prison, thanks for the tutorial!
Better yet, use it to escape prison
Since there is no button to change dimensions im sorry but this wont work
Dude, I literally forgot and remembered this game like 5 times with a lot of time in between and it's still not finished (what the hell's going on, man?) 😔
Although somewhat confusing, it’s the best darn explanation of the 4th dimension I’ve ever heard.
Well..it's more like walking around walls, isn't it?
exactly, what's intresting is that this works if the wall is infinity tall and infinity wide. or it's like being stuck inside a sphere and going "around" it to get outside of it
Now I want this game. Let me try to explain what is happening. The 4th dimension is another dimension you can move just like the 3rd dimension. It is not time. Time is the 5th dimension in this game.
Once you rotate the camera you can move in the 4th direction and go around the wall. Just like in the 2d wall is not continuing in the in the 3rd dimension, the 3d wall is not continuing in the 4th dimension.
The rubble is not the future or past of the wall. The rubble is attached to the wall in the 4th dimension. That means if you can somehow send a vibration through the wall it should reach the rubble.
Imagine that instead of a rubble there was more wall there That means if you can hit the wall hard enough, you can also demolish the one in the other plane since they are the same wall continuing in the 4th dimension.
You can watch some 4d videos or read/watch flatland to get it.
exactly that, this comment should go up
the time travel bs people talk about here is just stupid
Brain.exe has stopped working.
Its been a long month before i found this kind of video on how to understand the dimensions based on my level of understanding.. thank you for bringing up this video..
The 2D/3D explanation sounds a lot like Super Paper Mario
+samin90 Yeah, I wanted to frame the game in the context of what came before.
Please, make a first-person VR version of this game, sometime in the future! That should be the next step.
*the fucking inception level is godlike*
I've watched a few 4D vids now and this one brought it home. Thanks.
I understand everything but the most stupid move ever is to make the other side a sand/desert biome, which for a non-4D thinker would look like a new world. a 4D monster would see grass and sand lying next to each other like we did with the 2D example .
+mathias de potter I know what you're saying but the reason for this is to make it easier for players to orient themselves (especially at the beginning of the game) since each world is very recognizable. From lots of playtesting I can confirm this does help. The game breaks this pattern later on: notice the 120 cell at the beginning of the trailer does not have sharp changes in biomes.
Miegakure
that's weird I thought it was making it harder. or a least giving a weird/false impression. but now looking back at you may be right. it contrasts the normal and the 4d translated world.
+mathias de potter The Grass can still be seen be cause we understand 3D, so we can understand having two 2D worlds one next to the others. having two 3D world one next to the other has no meaning
+mathias de potter and if you watch till the end, even in the 2D world the grass and desert are not next to each other :)
Leonis C.
euhm yes they are...
The mexicans are gonna need this ^^
i wish... but alas, we live in a 4D world of 3 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal dimension.
JumboDS64
3.5 dimensions 😒. We are affected by time but we can't move through it freely.
ShadowLynx777 we are talking about spacial dimensions
juan dimension
LOL clever
Saw this on an indie gaming subreddit a few weeks back.
The problem I have with this is, when I try to think in 4D, I imagine the impact it would have on physiology and architecture. Unfortunately, Miegakure doesn't apply this.
This game is displaying a 3D world with a 4D plane, which means my attempts in identifying how planes are related is meaningless and thus more disconcerting.
The way I'm best compensating for this is by assuming I am limited to a 360-degree view when I turn my head, and there's a hidden 90-degree slice that I can only access through the game's mechanic, at the cost of another 90-degrees.
But I am still unable to perceive the relation between related planes, as there are no hints being shown in the environment. I feel this may be a case of poor world-building.
In my opinion that is what makes the game appealing. Our human concept of identifying planes goes completely out of the window and that is what I LOVE about it. However, it is not a complete mess. There are many cues that you can follow to make sense of what you are seeing. By the end of the game I`m sure that you will adapt and develop unique ``tricks`` to navigate this wacky world lol, just give it a shot :).
acadianalien Appeal is NOT the point. If the game lacks 4D traits that can let people, who actually went to the lengths to understand how 4D works, connect the dots, then that's poor game design.
To be fair, this is the only legitimate attempt at a 4D game, so naturally, it isn't perfect. I look forward to seeing a more accurate attempt at a 4D game.
mega17 In terms of Linear Algebra, everything is entirely consistent with the definition of a 4th orthogonal dimension of space projected on a 2D space (your computer screen). I am not trying to convince you to like it, just that it is mathematically consistent, but then again I love math so I`m a little biased lol
acadianalien Still irrelevant to my point.
The point is, people look up things like "4D cube" and see nothing of that sort in the game. Not even traces.
Normal consumers will not care about Linear Algebra, they care about being able to INTUITIVELY understand the changes occurring in front of them with the minimum information.
mega17 Ah ok well I`m not a normal consumer so I`m a little out of touch with what they want. To me though this is one of the best puzzle concepts for a game I have ever seen, and I`ve been playing puzzle games since the SNES days.
One the best explanations of the 4D.
Will trumps wall be multidimensional or will the Mexicans just walk around it?
OH NO! Ill tweet him.
Little question for you... How did you make 4D models?
David Macintosh Mostly procedurally and by working with mesh operation on procedurally built models.
Miegakure Is it hard for you to do it?
David Macintosh It depends on the thing. But it's often not too hard.
Miegakure One more question for you... How did you make that textures also have 3D slices? I mean: How textures work while rotating in 4D? Is it a morphings of textures or what? :\
David Macintosh In this case it's a block of 4D texture made with 4D Perlin noise.
There's an ominous type soundtrack playing in the background. I must know what it is
Such a good visualization at the beginning. Tysm.
But what if you weren't on exactly the same plane when you rotated the fourth dimension back again? Would others not be able to see you at all unless you were on exactly the same plane as them? Would they see a slice of your body that intersected with that plane?
If they were on a slightly different (but close plane) they would see a slice of your body, but if you were far enough away in the 4th dimension that you didn't intersect with their plane at all then you wouldn't be visible to them.
Fez 2: Hyper-fez
BewareTheForce I wish Fez 2 got made.
Don't we all.
too bad Phil ragequit the internet
He was a selfish jerk for turned his back on his fans by focusing on the trolls.
yeah, it sucks
"tHe fOuRtH DiMEnSiOn iS TiMe"
Debatable. It's constant and relative but hard to count as a spacial dimension
@@ReallyRandomMe in our universe the 4th dimension doesn't exist, so it's ultimately up to the you. in this scenario the 4 dimension is spatial, just like any other
Literally anything can be another dimension. In one application, the fourth dimension could be time and the fifth could be temperature, for example. In another application, the temperature could be the fourth dimension, and time might be irrelevant.
Say we are interested in how temperature and vibration change along time in a point of a car engine. Then, we would have three dimensions (temperature, vibration, and time), and space would not even be relevant.
This game answers the question of "what would the world be like if we lived in 4 dimensions of *space*", not "what is the fourth dimension". As they explain in their website, if we also take time into account, time is the fifth dimension in this game.
Also, the order of the dimensions are not relevant at all. We could say "time is the first dimension and space takes the 2nd, 3rd and 4th dimensions", but it would not change a thing if we actually said "time is the fourth, not the first dimension".
Well actually the first dimension is time... sunce it exist along side every spacial dimension. Even in a 2d world there is time.... so is in 3d and also 4d planes. IMO... time is the first variable or else everything remains constant.
This makes so much damn sense, I’m subscribing
is the rotation on the 4° dimension always on 90° angle
Rodrigo Vera Yes, the rotation mostly always stops at a 90 degree angle and back. I experimented with stopping it at other angles but it didn't bring much gameplay. But there will probably be something that breaks that a little bit.
Miegakure Please, after beating the game, let this feature be unlocked for the whole game.
Uthael Killean Seconded! This is one thing that has bugged me since I saw the first video about it.
Pretty cool game, is it possible to make the character 4D as well, so he can bump into other 4D objects while we can only perceive him in a 3D slice, thus making it look like he is bumping into nothing or being blocked by an invisible boundary from our perspective? You would then have to make the character navigate around 4D objects rather than 3D objects. It would be even more difficult to understand intuitively, but I think if a game was made with the addition of a 4D character, we'd eventually build a better understanding of 4D navigation. This game is going in a very good direction, keep up the hard work.
No spoilers man!
Derek Theodore Ooooh nice one! You would bump into nothing, but after rotating into the 4th dimension, you would see the object that was blocking you
>When you watching a 2D representation of a 3D space with a character that moves in 4D.
yes.
very eager to play this game 😍 i'd even settle for just being able to play around with a simulator operating on similar dynamics 👀