Can't thank you enough for taking the time and effort to share your knowledge. Excellent video, very professionally presented, this means I am actually starting to understand some of the functions on WBPP rather than just blindly setting up with defaults. Thanks again.
Hi Shawn, good tip on the Flat issue and dust bunnies, in the Output Pedestal window...I just started using dark flats with my ASI294MC Pro...No more bias, been doing it wrong for three years now, jeez!! Great video, thanks
Great video, Shawn. When running WBPP with 'astrometric solution' and later processing using the CometAlignment module I had issues when trying to select my last comet image. This was repeatable on both my Mac and Windows. If you do run in to an issue, just run WBPP without the astrometric solution, at least this solved the issue for me.
Wow thanks! I used to stack with DSS. I tried WBPP thanks to this video and the difference in the resulting image is bigger than I thought. Very helpful. Keep going with this great channel!
thanks shawn!...agree with others, and looking forward to part 2, combining frames from different days, and different locations that need different associated flat frames.
Shawn, very well-done video. I've been using WBPP for over a year but with its recent 2.5 release and your video, I learned a lot about the new additions. Thanks for your support to the Astro community!
Great Video, you have a very nice cadence in the topic. I'm in a second lenguage and I was able to follow you very easy. Great and easy tool from PI: Looking forward to see many more of your videos.Tanks.
Great, understandable video Shawn. I just started learning PixInsight today (using your 3 hours video tutorial). Got to the WBPP section and hopped onto this video. Awesome. Can hardly wait to continue on my new journey. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Dr. B from Manitoba, Canada
Okay, Shawn, you are now my goto guy for any updates in PI! This is an excellent video and a good review too. I kept coming up with questions and then you would answer it during your video. Looking forward to your Keyword video. I’m doing multiple nights now (OSC), but need to learn about aligning my Flats/Dark Flats and Darks. I definitely had forgotten some of the background of WBPP and this has helped refresh my partially fossilized brain. Also, it looks like I should be putting my Dark Flats under the Dark tab (I was putting them under the Bias tab. Again, great video! Thanks!!
Thank you Shawn - I did have a few questions about the latest WBPP but watching this video has answered them all. You are so talented and helpful with your tutorials. You make life easy. Cheers
Great video. I tried it and it worked great. The drizzle hint worked wonders. I use a REDCAT with an IMX571 so my images are under-sampled but I like the wide field view. The drizzle filled it in for me
Hey Shawn, Great stuff and thank you for taking the time to put this together. I learned a lot on this and may have to revisit it again and again until I have done it several times, age does that to us. haha.. Thanks again and clear skies.
I use manual registration reference image, as I manually process after calibration in WBPP when combining sets years apart. Although I see you have a newer video out on grouping. Not sure how that will work between to pixel image scales between two set-ups. If I can work, that will be the real game changer for me.
I had a very frustrating time with some Telescope live data in that it had 1.20" 300" and 600" frames that came calibrated. the stack had really bad stars that were red or green huge squares. I finally used drizzle at #2 and it fixed the problem. It was the M51 data bundle. I haven't seen a video on how to process Telescope data yet. It's different in that you get calibrated frames. Telescope Live has a free trail too. They have tutorials but use both photoshop and pixinsight . Pixinsight is difficult enough to learn no need the stress of photoshop. Anyway, nice video.
Great video Shawn, I use a OSC QHY268c camera, and Image at 1.72”/pixel so not over or under sampled, should I used drizzle, will it really benefit me, also I read it’s only good to use drizzle, with very well dithered data, and I don’t either….?? 🤔👍🏻
Good tut. If using a Zwo OSC camera, do we need to remember to check CFA, or will it know? I figure if you're using the most common astro cams, PixInsight would know and adjust accordingly.
Hi, for a newbie really well described without being overwhelming. Ran WBPP the other day, when it then created 2 folders - calibrated, debayered - they have files of a good 25 GB in total.. right now I don't know the point of having them, and can you delete them afterwards.? do they have a function afterwards, other than they master.? otherwise you quickly run out of space.
Isn’t there a setting under image integration that you can set to check for bad subs? Like minimum weighting? Or how do you check your subs before running it? Do you just add them all? Like in DSS where you can reject say the bottom 20% of the subs? Thanks
Great information. Drizzle wise, this means I don't have to go to Process > DrizzleIntegration and add in the .xdrz file anymore, yes ? Drizzle can be done on the new WBPP.
Excellent video Shawn, this is great help for novices like me. One question - the Drizzle - is it the same that we set for the Camera settings when we do autoguiding using ZWO Asi Air? Also, say my images are already Drizzled while capturing (through ASI Air), do you still suggest I should Drizzle again through Pixinsight?
There's so much conflicting info about which calibration frames are necessary. Some pepole say darks aren't necessary, others say bias aren't necessary. I just use them all lol
Bias are useful for CCD cams. Darks should be taken really. Cmos cams today are low noise, not no noise. If measured SNR using darks will be better. There's also a lot of bad info on TH-cam I find. Have to be careful.
Good job Shawn 👌 i have one question : can I put directly my Master Bias, dark and flat in WBPP or do I have to take only frames? Tnahk you for your answer
I love all your videos. Can you give me a recommendation on the specs for a new laptop? I currently only have 16 gigs of RAM and when I do multiple nights in WBPP, I seem to run out of memory when I get to generating the Lights masterfile.
Great Video Shawn, but I'm confused about cosmetic correction. Adam Block says to ALWAYS use cosmetic correction with CMOS cameras to eliminate hot pixels. Are you sure you're not thinking about "linear defects correction"?
Hmmm, not sure what circumstances Adam would be referring to specifically, but I own several CMOS cameras and never use cosmetic correction. My old CCD camera definitely had hot pixels and needed cosmetic correction applied. But if your CMOS cam does produce a lot of hot pixels for some reason then cosmetic correction can be effective.
Shawn..if I separate the rgb channels and select drizzle and auto crop, I get a master for the drizzle and autocrop separately. for each color. How do I then recombine 2 masters of each color?
Shawn I couldn’t drizzle with OSC data, the option to drizzle is greyed out when I separate R G and B channels. The drizzle files are there in the registered folder. I used the drizzle integration process and it worked. Maybe it is too complicated to be included in WBPP automatically.
Hey Shawn, good video. I normally use APP for pre-processing, but figured I would give PI a whirl on C2022-E3-ZTF. Just noticed you have a SkyHunter mount in the background. How is it going with that mount? I purchased one since it is becoming increasingly more difficult to lug around my EQ6r with age. I find I can leave everything on it (RedCat, OSC, guider, mini computer) and carry it out, getting set up in minutes. Bonus in that respect. Albeit it is pretty dainty, so you can't disturb it too much after polar alignment. I find it difficult to guide better than about 1.2", with the odd moments at 0.7". How is that going for you?
Hi Richard - I actually don't have the Skyhunter anymore. It couldn't carry the weight of my 71mm and camera etc. It was pushing the limits. I did have a chance to try it though and it worked well. Except for a meridian flip problem. But the firmware update and board replacement for the SKyhunter fixed all that. I don't recall what my guiding was like. I was getting round stars though. It would be good for a redcat or similar size. It was pretty easy to setup and polar align. I think if I did more DSLR and lens night shots I would have kept it for that. But I don't do that really. Cheers.
@@VisibledarkAstro fair enough. I just use mine for the very light gear. I was very lucky ordering it later, so they held my shipment until they sorted out the motherboard issue. It is definitely a good grab and go compared to my old iexos-100
Great overview. I just tried WBPP 2.5.1 now. Question: so with drizzle integration now in WBPP the output master has both a drizzle1x file and a non-drizzled master light. The drizzle1x master light I'm assuming is already drizzed and no other work has to be done with regard to drizzling?
I stumbled across your channel by chance while trying to figure out how to process the comet... I will definitely use your method. I wanted to ask you did or do you plan to update your tutorial with the latest wbpp updates with the latest functions (November-December update if I'm not mistaken) those that include spcc in processing. Thank you
@@VisibledarkAstro ahhh, thanks. I've been looking up grouping keywords. It would be good to work out if you can use them without needing to rename the files and just with folders instead. I can't get that to work. :(
Hi Shawn! Thank you very much for sharing this valuable info! Quick question please, can I stack a bunch of files with a comet? Ideally, I would like to select a "reference image", so that every file will stack onto it. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. I am currently doing the trial period of PI and wondering if its worth the investment. Your video certainly is helping me learn what PI can do for my imaging. I do notice that as PI updates some tutorials become harder to follow.
Any way of integrating using different methods. eg I may have rgb for stars and NB for the object. I might have many NB frames and use one type of integration and a different kind for my RGB because I don't have so many of them...? It seems that the choice of integration method has to be universal.
Ya I don't think different integrations methods can be applied manuall depending on type of data. If you leave it set for auto it will decide for each data set the best method to use. You can add rgb data and nb data at the same time into wbpp and it will create masters for both data sets.
I ran the new script on 36 Ha frames taken on my EDGE HD 8” and got a whole bunch of wide vertical white stripes down the centre of the image, when I deselected all the ‘goodies’ and took it back to a simpler stack routine it created a normal Master Stack. Any idea what might have caused that❓
If it weren't for you Shawn, I'd be struggling! Thank YOU so much for your videos!
Can't thank you enough for taking the time and effort to share your knowledge. Excellent video, very professionally presented, this means I am actually starting to understand some of the functions on WBPP rather than just blindly setting up with defaults. Thanks again.
Thank you saved me a lot of time trying to browse videos for an actual working one
I’m so glad that drizzle is now integrated into WBPP. I’ve been waiting for that to occur. thanks for the video
You're my go-to PI tutor, Sean! Thanks for your work!
Another great video. Looking forward to part II
Dude, this is the only video that works. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for the update on WPBB. Looking forward to the next part.
Thanks Shawn - you've been incredibly helpful. Clear skies!!! "Harry"
lovely run through everything, great for a super newbie like this guy.
Thanks!!
Thank you very much, your clear and relaxed way of informing is really helpful. Kind regards Jelle (from Luxembourg, Europe)
Thank you to take time to share all these informations . I follow you from France with great pleasure .
Hi Shawn, good tip on the Flat issue and dust bunnies, in the Output Pedestal window...I just started using dark flats with my ASI294MC Pro...No more bias, been doing it wrong for three years now, jeez!! Great video, thanks
Excellent video. I used to do all this manually, but tried WPBB for the first time. Your video really helped sort out the process.
Great video, Shawn. When running WBPP with 'astrometric solution' and later processing using the CometAlignment module I had issues when trying to select my last comet image. This was repeatable on both my Mac and Windows. If you do run in to an issue, just run WBPP without the astrometric solution, at least this solved the issue for me.
Thanks for the tip!
Wow thanks!
I used to stack with DSS. I tried WBPP thanks to this video and the difference in the resulting image is bigger than I thought. Very helpful.
Keep going with this great channel!
BROTHER, YOU ARE THE BEST!!! You oooh really helped me!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Excellent and thorough video, thanks Shawn.
Shawn, very nice illustration of the WBPP process. TY
Great overview Shawn. Thanks for making the video!
thanks shawn!...agree with others, and looking forward to part 2, combining frames from different days, and different locations that need different associated flat frames.
Shawn, very well-done video. I've been using WBPP for over a year but with its recent 2.5 release and your video, I learned a lot about the new additions. Thanks for your support to the Astro community!
Thanks!
Great Video, you have a very nice cadence in the topic. I'm in a second lenguage and I was able to follow you very easy. Great and easy tool from PI: Looking forward to see many more of your videos.Tanks.
Great, understandable video Shawn. I just started learning PixInsight today (using your 3 hours video tutorial). Got to the WBPP section and hopped onto this video. Awesome. Can hardly wait to continue on my new journey. Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Dr. B from Manitoba, Canada
Thanks Shawn. I hadn't realised you can use master darks with WBPP before seeing this. Adding Drizzle is a useful feature too.
Wbpp creating the drizzle masters is super!
Look forward for part2
Thanks a lot for this tutorial. I never used WBPP thinking that it is too complex. I’ll try it now that you have made it simple. CS!
This is very useful. Well done young man!
this program works great! exactly as I wanted
Excellent as always, Shawn. I enjoy the very thorough walkthrough.
Thanks Shawn. I like the drizzle addition to WBPP. Nice overview and I always learn something when I watch your videos 👍
Excellent, as normal. The drizzle 'enable' is very interesting....👍👍👏👏
Thank you so much!!! It did work and took less than 5 minutes!
Very helpful, looking for part 2.
Glad it was helpful!
Okay, Shawn, you are now my goto guy for any updates in PI! This is an excellent video and a good review too. I kept coming up with questions and then you would answer it during your video. Looking forward to your Keyword video. I’m doing multiple nights now (OSC), but need to learn about aligning my Flats/Dark Flats and Darks. I definitely had forgotten some of the background of WBPP and this has helped refresh my partially fossilized brain. Also, it looks like I should be putting my Dark Flats under the Dark tab (I was putting them under the Bias tab.
Again, great video! Thanks!!
Thank you for the video, been awhile since I used it so this was a great refresher.
2.6.2 will plate solve now too, which is nice to get out of the way.
Thank you Shawn - I did have a few questions about the latest WBPP but watching this video has answered them all. You are so talented and helpful with your tutorials. You make life easy. Cheers
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Shawn this was super useful.Looking forward to trying it out
Excellent Shawn, thank you very much
My pleasure!
complete. So I put a few videos up to show what i've got so far, and i'm hoping that soone will take the ti to watch them, let
Thanks for this great tutorial, Shawn! WBPP is key for processing and I like the new drizzle function.
CS,
Stephen
Great Info, Thank you Shawn 👍
Great video. I tried it and it worked great. The drizzle hint worked wonders. I use a REDCAT with an IMX571 so my images are under-sampled but I like the wide field view. The drizzle filled it in for me
Excellent video Shawn! I have a question, in 8:52 why your flats for the same filter have different exposure times?
Thank you so much Sensei! You are a blessing!
Thanks, great video. Perfect pace and depth. I'm new to PI and can't wait to check out your other videos.
Awesome, thank you!
Hey Shawn, Great stuff and thank you for taking the time to put this together. I learned a lot on this and may have to revisit it again and again until I have done it several times, age does that to us. haha..
Thanks again and clear skies.
Thanks! Awesome tutorial Shawn. 🙂
I use manual registration reference image, as I manually process after calibration in WBPP when combining sets years apart. Although I see you have a newer video out on grouping. Not sure how that will work between to pixel image scales between two set-ups. If I can work, that will be the real game changer for me.
Thanks for doing this Shawn… great tutorial, as always 👍🏻
thank you straight to the point
As ever a good tutorial, and a good explaination of the new changes in WBPP.
Wow. Really helpful. Thank you!
Great video as usual , thank you very much
I bought the Fruity Edition and tNice tutorials tutorial helped out a lot!
Merci Shawn, nice wrap up of the UI.
Thank you Shawn! Loved it.
I had a very frustrating time with some Telescope live data in that it had 1.20" 300" and 600" frames that came calibrated. the stack had really bad stars that were red or green huge squares. I finally used drizzle at #2 and it fixed the problem. It was the M51 data bundle. I haven't seen a video on how to process Telescope data yet. It's different in that you get calibrated frames. Telescope Live has a free trail too. They have tutorials but use both photoshop and pixinsight . Pixinsight is difficult enough to learn no need the stress of photoshop. Anyway, nice video.
ThNks Shawn, great video
Great video Shawn,
I use a OSC QHY268c camera, and Image at 1.72”/pixel so not over or under sampled, should I used drizzle, will it really benefit me, also I read it’s only good to use drizzle, with very well dithered data, and I don’t either….?? 🤔👍🏻
Drizzle requires a lot of subs and yes well dithered to be effective. It avoids interpolation. CFA drizzle should be used for OSC.
very useful, thank you Shawn. much appreciated
Thanks Shawn. Great tutorial very easy to understand !
I was not using drizzle but I may give a try now.
This was excellent !
Good tut. If using a Zwo OSC camera, do we need to remember to check CFA, or will it know? I figure if you're using the most common astro cams, PixInsight would know and adjust accordingly.
Thanks Shawn! Great as always! CS!
Hi, for a newbie really well described without being overwhelming. Ran WBPP the other day, when it then created 2 folders - calibrated, debayered - they have files of a good 25 GB in total.. right now I don't know the point of having them, and can you delete them afterwards.? do they have a function afterwards, other than they master.? otherwise you quickly run out of space.
Great tutorial Shawn !
Thanks for posting this -
Thanks so much for this really very very helpful.
Isn’t there a setting under image integration that you can set to check for bad subs? Like minimum weighting? Or how do you check your subs before running it? Do you just add them all? Like in DSS where you can reject say the bottom 20% of the subs? Thanks
Great information. Drizzle wise, this means I don't have to go to Process > DrizzleIntegration and add in the .xdrz file anymore, yes ? Drizzle can be done on the new WBPP.
That's correct! WBPP will do it all now.
Excellent video Shawn, this is great help for novices like me. One question - the Drizzle - is it the same that we set for the Camera settings when we do autoguiding using ZWO Asi Air?
Also, say my images are already Drizzled while capturing (through ASI Air), do you still suggest I should Drizzle again through Pixinsight?
I just updated and call me simple but my favorite part is the new status window😆
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There's so much conflicting info about which calibration frames are necessary. Some pepole say darks aren't necessary, others say bias aren't necessary. I just use them all lol
Bias are useful for CCD cams. Darks should be taken really. Cmos cams today are low noise, not no noise. If measured SNR using darks will be better. There's also a lot of bad info on TH-cam I find. Have to be careful.
Outstanding!
Thank you very much for your key......1000% work :)
Hi I also need to if u can combine different exposures into one image in WBPP.
Thanks
Do you have a video for adding multiple nights (using Key Words?)? Thanks!!
Good job Shawn 👌
i have one question : can I put directly my Master Bias, dark and flat in WBPP or do I have to take only frames?
Tnahk you for your answer
Great videos thank you 👏👏
Thanks Shawn!
I love all your videos. Can you give me a recommendation on the specs for a new laptop? I currently only have 16 gigs of RAM and when I do multiple nights in WBPP, I seem to run out of memory when I get to generating the Lights masterfile.
Great Video Shawn, but I'm confused about cosmetic correction. Adam Block says to ALWAYS use cosmetic correction with CMOS cameras to eliminate hot pixels. Are you sure you're not thinking about "linear defects correction"?
Hmmm, not sure what circumstances Adam would be referring to specifically, but I own several CMOS cameras and never use cosmetic correction. My old CCD camera definitely had hot pixels and needed cosmetic correction applied. But if your CMOS cam does produce a lot of hot pixels for some reason then cosmetic correction can be effective.
Shawn..if I separate the rgb channels and select drizzle and auto crop, I get a master for the drizzle and autocrop separately. for each color. How do I then recombine 2 masters of each color?
Shawn I couldn’t drizzle with OSC data, the option to drizzle is greyed out when I separate R G and B channels. The drizzle files are there in the registered folder. I used the drizzle integration process and it worked. Maybe it is too complicated to be included in WBPP automatically.
Hey Shawn, good video. I normally use APP for pre-processing, but figured I would give PI a whirl on C2022-E3-ZTF.
Just noticed you have a SkyHunter mount in the background. How is it going with that mount? I purchased one since it is becoming increasingly more difficult to lug around my EQ6r with age. I find I can leave everything on it (RedCat, OSC, guider, mini computer) and carry it out, getting set up in minutes. Bonus in that respect. Albeit it is pretty dainty, so you can't disturb it too much after polar alignment. I find it difficult to guide better than about 1.2", with the odd moments at 0.7". How is that going for you?
Hi Richard - I actually don't have the Skyhunter anymore. It couldn't carry the weight of my 71mm and camera etc. It was pushing the limits. I did have a chance to try it though and it worked well. Except for a meridian flip problem. But the firmware update and board replacement for the SKyhunter fixed all that. I don't recall what my guiding was like. I was getting round stars though. It would be good for a redcat or similar size. It was pretty easy to setup and polar align. I think if I did more DSLR and lens night shots I would have kept it for that. But I don't do that really. Cheers.
@@VisibledarkAstro fair enough. I just use mine for the very light gear. I was very lucky ordering it later, so they held my shipment until they sorted out the motherboard issue. It is definitely a good grab and go compared to my old iexos-100
Great overview. I just tried WBPP 2.5.1 now. Question: so with drizzle integration now in WBPP the output master has both a drizzle1x file and a non-drizzled master light. The drizzle1x master light I'm assuming is already drizzed and no other work has to be done with regard to drizzling?
Do u need to have any tutorial plugged in or is all the softs on soft
I stumbled across your channel by chance while trying to figure out how to process the comet... I will definitely use your method. I wanted to ask you did or do you plan to update your tutorial with the latest wbpp updates with the latest functions (November-December update if I'm not mistaken) those that include spcc in processing. Thank you
Thank you for this video. One question, how do you stack images from different nights with different flats from each night?
That is part 2 of WBPP overview. You would need to use grouping keywords.
@@VisibledarkAstro ahhh, thanks. I've been looking up grouping keywords. It would be good to work out if you can use them without needing to rename the files and just with folders instead. I can't get that to work. :(
Hi Shawn! Thank you very much for sharing this valuable info! Quick question please, can I stack a bunch of files with a comet? Ideally, I would like to select a "reference image", so that every file will stack onto it. Thanks!
You would want to use Pixinsights comet stacking process. I have a video showing how to do it. Search my vids for comet and you should come across it.
@@VisibledarkAstro Found it! Thank you very much! 😁
Thanks for the video. I am currently doing the trial period of PI and wondering if its worth the investment. Your video certainly is helping me learn what PI can do for my imaging. I do notice that as PI updates some tutorials become harder to follow.
Any way of integrating using different methods. eg I may have rgb for stars and NB for the object. I might have many NB frames and use one type of integration and a different kind for my RGB because I don't have so many of them...? It seems that the choice of integration method has to be universal.
Ya I don't think different integrations methods can be applied manuall depending on type of data. If you leave it set for auto it will decide for each data set the best method to use. You can add rgb data and nb data at the same time into wbpp and it will create masters for both data sets.
Omg thanks very much ! ✨
It worked. Thanks a lot
Can I do different iso like I can exposure time
jfwiw- I have not yet had a single instance where WPPP didn't fail at the Astrometric Solution stage. I just started un-checking it.
I ran the new script on 36 Ha frames taken on my EDGE HD 8” and got a whole bunch of wide vertical white stripes down the centre of the image, when I deselected all the ‘goodies’ and took it back to a simpler stack routine it created a normal Master Stack. Any idea what might have caused that❓