Es totalmente injusto que rara vez se interprete a Porpora, un compositor exquisito y fino en riqueza y color orquestal así como un total dominio de la voz humana, un verdadero maestro, cuando en cambio tanto Heandel como Vivaldi tienen todas sus óperas en disco. Porpora fue también un gran innovador del recitativo dándole un carácter totalmente dramático tanto vocal como instrumental. Tiene que llegar el tiempo del gusto reconocimiento de este gran genio de la ópera!!!!
@@ТатьянаЧебанова-ж1л Hola, bueno es cuestión de gustos, la lucha entre Heandel y Porpora era común por el liderazgo, no porque quiso Porpora enojar a Heandel o Heandel a Porpora. A mí me gusta más Porpora, lo veo más fino y con un dominio y conocimiento de la voz humana más grande que Heandel y eso es indiscutible por eso le decían el Maestro. Pero es cuestión de gustos, yo no estoy diciendo que Heandel haya sido mal compositor todo lo contrario.
Le miracle a lieu à l'acte III, très exactement à deux heures, cinq minutes et dix-sept secondes. Un voile se déchire dans le froissement d'étoffe des cordes: "Alto Giove" est le nom de ce miracle par quoi le temps se suspend porté par la voix profondément, douloureusement humaine de Yuriy Minenko.
Interesting to compare Handel's treatment of the same story - Handel, when in Italy, wrote a small opera in Italian for one of the southern Italian princes and later when Handel moved to England, for the private theater of the Duke of Chandos, he wrote an English language opera called "Acis and Galatea" which is one of Handel's most exquisite works. I enjoy both.
@RestWithin I was introduced to it decades ago in an old vinyl recording starring Joan Sutherland -she was not of course a baroque type voice and the work had been re-orchestrated by no other than Mozart would you believe! But I played the recording so many times I practically know every melody and word in it. I have a more recent DVD of a live recording from Glyndebourne in England and again starring an Australian singer Danielle de Niesse who is married to the owner of the Glyndebourne opera. I also have a DVD of the other work I mentioned by Handel "Aci, Polifemo" live recording from the Teatro regio of Turin in an interesting production that has miming doubles for every character who mime while each character sings. The Italian language work by Handel I mentioned was written for prince de Caetani and performed at his palace in the town of Piedemonte Matese near Naples -the palace had its own theater but sadly it is now in ruins - I think it may have been bombed during World War Two and not restored. "Acis and Galatea" -the English opera was written for James Brydges duke of Chandos who also had his own private theater and orchestra for his immense stately home called "Cannons" near London. Sadly the opulent building was demolished when the duke became bankrupt -its contents sold and would you believe the Italianate chapel was taken down and put up again as an Anglican church where it still is today. It has beautiful frescoes by an Italian artist.
Violins using chinrests, fine tuners and other modern contraptions? Why not use modern instruments and end the pretense of "period" /"authentic" performance. There is more to this playing music than slapping gut strings on your gigging fiddle and getting a baroque bow.
The "period" vs. modern performance debate is long over. Performances will never be "authentic", for a number of cogent reasons, no matter what instruments are used by whom. This also means that using modern instruments, per se, doesn't make performances any better. The only thing that really counts is the quality and depth, or lack thereof, of the performance. (Rolf Lislevand wrote something to the effect that the only "authentic" way to perform ancient music is, well, reinventing, re-creating it as one plays it). But we can't avoid taking into account the public's perception and tastes, which change over time. Today, most listeners wince in distress at hearing ancient music played with vibrato by "philharmonic orchestras" 19th century-style, and there's nothing aficionados of bygone days can do about it. Decades of "period" performances have altered the perception of ancient music by today's audiences, and 1950-ish style interpretations sound just as inauthentic as this Porpora opera sounds to you.
Хоть какими-то соотечественниками мы ещё можем гордиться: Лежнева, Миненко и Кудинов. В остальном один позор, увы. Порпора феноменален. Так мало опер целиком исполнено и записано. Его главный соперник же наоборот - исполняется записывается и ежегодно по многу-многу раз. Я самолично выложил на Рутрекере больше 100 'Мессий'. Вообще практически всего Генделя выложил (под тысячу релизов). Порпору, правда, тоже практически всего выложил, кроме трёх последних записей ('Carlo il Calvo', 'L'Angelica' и этого 'Polifemo').
la rarissima abilità che hanno gli Italiani di coprire di polvere i loro capolavori!
Es totalmente injusto que rara vez se interprete a Porpora, un compositor exquisito y fino en riqueza y color orquestal así como un total dominio de la voz humana, un verdadero maestro, cuando en cambio tanto Heandel como Vivaldi tienen todas sus óperas en disco. Porpora fue también un gran innovador del recitativo dándole un carácter totalmente dramático tanto vocal como instrumental. Tiene que llegar el tiempo del gusto reconocimiento de este gran genio de la ópera!!!!
Не люблю Порпора. Был интриганом. Боролся с Генделем. Пытался его роззорить. Привез в лондон Фаринели
@@ТатьянаЧебанова-ж1л Hola, bueno es cuestión de gustos, la lucha entre Heandel y Porpora era común por el liderazgo, no porque quiso Porpora enojar a Heandel o Heandel a Porpora. A mí me gusta más Porpora, lo veo más fino y con un dominio y conocimiento de la voz humana más grande que Heandel y eso es indiscutible por eso le decían el Maestro. Pero es cuestión de gustos, yo no estoy diciendo que Heandel haya sido mal compositor todo lo contrario.
Haendel e Vivaldi ?
Che dire di Mozart/Haydn/Beethoven
Le miracle a lieu à l'acte III, très exactement à deux heures, cinq minutes et dix-sept secondes. Un voile se déchire dans le froissement d'étoffe des cordes: "Alto Giove" est le nom de ce miracle par quoi le temps se suspend porté par la voix profondément, douloureusement humaine de Yuriy Minenko.
Волшебно!Браво!
sublime !!!!!!!!!!!
Одна из лучших интерпретаций оперы Порпоры!!! Браво всему составу,голоса потрясающие!!!
Mi piace questa musica barocca.
bim ! merci pour cette explosion artistique, un pur régal ! 🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖
Just a spectacularly beautiful rendition! Bravo to all...
Majestuosidad
Interesting to compare Handel's treatment of the same story - Handel, when in Italy, wrote a small opera in Italian for one of the southern Italian princes and later when Handel moved to England, for the private theater of the Duke of Chandos, he wrote an English language opera called "Acis and Galatea" which is one of Handel's most exquisite works. I enjoy both.
@RestWithin I was introduced to it decades ago in an old vinyl recording starring Joan Sutherland -she was not of course a baroque type voice and the work had been re-orchestrated by no other than Mozart would you believe! But I played the recording so many times I practically know every melody and word in it. I have a more recent DVD of a live recording from Glyndebourne in England and again starring an Australian singer Danielle de Niesse who is married to the owner of the Glyndebourne opera. I also have a DVD of the other work I mentioned by Handel "Aci, Polifemo" live recording from the Teatro regio of Turin in an interesting production that has miming doubles for every character who mime while each character sings. The Italian language work by Handel I mentioned was written for prince de Caetani and performed at his palace in the town of Piedemonte Matese near Naples -the palace had its own theater but sadly it is now in ruins - I think it may have been bombed during World War Two and not restored. "Acis and Galatea" -the English opera was written for James Brydges duke of Chandos who also had his own private theater and orchestra for his immense stately home called "Cannons" near London. Sadly the opulent building was demolished when the duke became bankrupt -its contents sold and would you believe the Italianate chapel was taken down and put up again as an Anglican church where it still is today. It has beautiful frescoes by an Italian artist.
In this opera, Farinelli (Aci), Yuriy Minenko, and Senesino (Ullise) , Max Cencic, shared the stage!!!!
Also Francesca Cuzzoni (Galatea) and Antonio Montagnana (Polifemo)
I wish there were subtitles. :(
Спасибо за совершенство!
Beautiful!
💖💖💖
Tout simplement magnifique!
Beautiful bravo! 👏🏽
Alto giove 2:05:10
02:05:10 :000000!!!!!
Beautiful on many levels. Subtitles would be extremely helpful though.
Музыка Порпоры больше похожа на французскую, нежели на Итальянскую.
Нет, он представитель неаполитанской школы, главный соперник Жоры Генделя в Лондоне.
Мне нравится, что у него очень короткие речитативы.
Violins using chinrests, fine tuners and other modern contraptions? Why not use modern instruments and end the pretense of "period" /"authentic" performance. There is more to this playing music than slapping gut strings on your gigging fiddle and getting a baroque bow.
The "period" vs. modern performance debate is long over. Performances will never be "authentic", for a number of cogent reasons, no matter what instruments are used by whom. This also means that using modern instruments, per se, doesn't make performances any better. The only thing that really counts is the quality and depth, or lack thereof, of the performance. (Rolf Lislevand wrote something to the effect that the only "authentic" way to perform ancient music is, well, reinventing, re-creating it as one plays it). But we can't avoid taking into account the public's perception and tastes, which change over time. Today, most listeners wince in distress at hearing ancient music played with vibrato by "philharmonic orchestras" 19th century-style, and there's nothing aficionados of bygone days can do about it. Decades of "period" performances have altered the perception of ancient music by today's audiences, and 1950-ish style interpretations sound just as inauthentic as this Porpora opera sounds to you.
HIP people are so pleasant.
Yes, chinrests ruin everything. Which is worse...chinrests or rigid, superior attitudes?
2:05:08 It is here if you're looking for it :)
"Alto Giove?" -I know that tune from this opera .
@@kaloarepo288 Yes... you've ruined my nice surprise but that s ok..
Хоть какими-то соотечественниками мы ещё можем гордиться: Лежнева, Миненко и Кудинов.
В остальном один позор, увы.
Порпора феноменален. Так мало опер целиком исполнено и записано.
Его главный соперник же наоборот - исполняется записывается и ежегодно по многу-многу раз.
Я самолично выложил на Рутрекере больше 100 'Мессий'. Вообще практически всего Генделя выложил (под тысячу релизов). Порпору, правда, тоже практически всего выложил, кроме трёх последних записей ('Carlo il Calvo', 'L'Angelica' и этого 'Polifemo').