Return of the King (1980) - Eowyn vs Witchking
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Theoden'in ölümü herkesi derinden üzerken, Witch King Pelennor Çayırlarına korku salar ve karşısında yiğit biri çıkar. Derler ki hiçbir erkek onu öldüremez. Fakat o bir erkek değildir. Rohanlı Eomund'un kızı Eowyn dir.
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Eowyn: “But no living man am I”
*Takes off helmet*
Witch King: *Skeletor voice* “WHAT”
Hehehehe heee
🤣
The Witch King of Agmar:NYEH!
😂
Myahhhh
I love this version of Eowyn. She was fearless.
you mean: "unrealistic" or "foolish"?
Eowyn barely has any kind of presence in this movie though.
@@ayylmao575 still better than the Jackson version.
@@GeraltofRivia22
Animated Eowyn: Warrior princess from the sagas
Live action Eowyn: Frightened because it is her first battle, still steps up to defend her (essentially) father from a literal demon king
Both voice performances are appropriate for the respective portrayal
@@turbotrup96 How it unrealistic or foolish she just wasnt gonna stand by and watch her father figure get eaten even if it cost her life
Yeah, Witch King, you're tough now. But as soon as Megatron enters the room, you turn into a mewling quim.
I thought I heard Starscream
@@MG007. Frank Welker is Starscream, he’s Thundercracker.
*mewling
@@johncrafton8319 Thanks man.
Chris Latta is Starscream, the red, white and blue Seeker.
Frank Welker is Skywarp, the purple and black Seekee, though you are right that this Voice Actor voiced Thundercrackwr., the blue Seeker.
Skeletor was nice enough to voice act the Witch King; how kind.. I mean EVIL of him 😂
Nope, that's Mr. Slate from The Flintstones.
Eowyin's bravery is so inspiring
the animated Eowyn in this Rankin-Bass cartoon special is much better than Miranda Otto's version. Not only that, this cartoon is much more beautiful.
I love the Rankin and Bass animation style, Eowyn looks awesome in this!
Love how they keep it vague whether Merry or Eowyn killed him.
One hobbit going “a woman!” Has me on the floor laughing
Witch King sounds like Skeletor and Starscream had a baby.
alt yazı için teşekkürler efenim
"A foul and putrid wind!". sounds like Merry ate to many beans
Witch king sounding like skeletor
Like Skeletor talking into a fan.
I so wish Bakshi was the one who made Return of the King -_- he even had one scene where Witch king was flying around, just would imagine it would have been such a better ending.
Henceforth, banished from Middle Earth aftet being defeated, and onward to Castle Greyskull.
Alan Oppenheimer
@@eurodoc6343 this was before skeletor more like skeletor sounding like the witch king
“You fool! No He-Man can destroy me!!”
Kevin Smith begs to differ
Sorry, but I have to do this.
“But no He-Man am I. FOR THE HONOR OF GRAYSKULL!!!!”
But I am She-Ra! I will hinder thee.
He didn’t say “destroy” he said “hinder”
*angry fist shaking*
Fun fact, in Shakespeare's Macbeth, there's a prophesy that the main character can be killed by "No man born of a woman" When Tolkien read that, he got excited thinking that he has guessed the twist, that Macbeth would be killed by a woman. He was so mad when that didn't happen he decided to write a similar prophesy in his book with the twist he wanted.
I felt a little cheated myself that Macduff was born via c-section and therefore not “born of a woman”. That’s just prophecy-lawyering, I’m with Tolkien on this one
Then how the fuck did Macbeth die then
@@moemuxhagi he was killed by Macduff who was born by c-section, so still quite a clever twist
@@teakr ain't that still born of a woman though
@@moemuxhagi in those days, I suppose they didn't see it that way
I love how the Witch King and Eowyn wait politely as the two hobbits deliver their lines of surprise about Eowyn coming to fight. 😆
Yeah, it all kinda sounds like a school play when said aloud like that.
Pauses like that are typical in Manga and anime. This movie was ahead the curve.
@@YOUFREAKINNERD All three lay behind, for your curve is that of a river.
It's like in dragon ball z when the characters narrate their thoughts while powering up for 30 minutes lol
Well, you don't just give a ring of power to some riff raff off the street. He was a king, accustomed to the courtesy of a royal, if evil, court.
The book describes the Witch King's voice as "stinging the very ears like venom."
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I don’t think the book meant the voice to be like Skeletor…
I don't think that means the witch-kings voice sounds like his dick is in a vice grip.
@@Snapshot_the_Mad_Hatter this predates Skeletor's voice. Skeletor sounds like the Witch King.
And that it does.
I mean they definitely got it right
Man, Eowyn is portrayed beautifully here
She's the best thing about it. Beautiful and totally badass!
@@probro9898she gave me ideas for a Character in a Titanic story I am writing.
Eowyn is so beautifully portrayed here.
"You come between me and my king and kin"....very badass......
simp
She sure is. I got goosebumps when she took off her helmet. So majestic! 🙂
Live action Eowyn was better
Manga Eowyn :D
You know you're a badass when you can inspire Shaggy, of all people, to rush to your aid against a ghost
ayyyee
Zoinks!
Bro does that for dog treats in every episode
"Like . . . Zoinks, Scoob . . . is that the Witch King of Angmar?"
@@lancelotvox6933 that's how the old hb cross over would go.
One thing I like is if you pay attention, the Witch King visibly pulls back when Eowyn reveals she's a woman. You get the feeling he's thinking 'Oh crap, I hadn't thought about that'. Which is accurate to the book.
He was like "Ma'am, I don't think the prophecy was talking about gender. It says man in the sense of the human kind. That still doesn't count, you can't kill me. That's against the rule."
@@gffg387 As it turns out... Merry is not Human... but a halfling...
@@Smitty-hr2mg He's actually a Hobbit
"Damn you, explicit prophesy wording!"
De hecho en el libro si te menciona que por un momento duda antes de atacar a Eowyn, pues entiende que se enfrenta a su destino...
I was half expecting Eowyn to pull off the Witch King’s mask and reveal him as Mr. Demblethorpe, owner and operator of the amusement park he wanted to convince everyone was haunted so he could sell it at a massive profit margin.
And he would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for that meddling fellowship
I love this.
Mr Trump really behind the mask tho 😱😱
It would have been The Gaffer.
'Mr. Demble-THORPE?!'
I love Eowyn's dialogue, the passion of the voice actress and the beautiful animation of her face.
horny much? Man alive, keep your warm feelings to yourself
Passion? She sounds bored. Terrible portrayal.
@@ericstoverink6579
agreed
@@ericstoverink6579 it feels like 50/50 here
I str8 googled rule 34 on that too my brother
I love how Witch-King was trolled three times over. When he spoke of a prophecy, "No man shall slay thee," it was said to him by an Elf he fought while fighting the northern kingdom. As Witch-King was slain, he was slain by a Woman of Man and a Hobbit who bore a blade from that same war.
It reminds me of the witches' prophecy in Macbeth that he would not be killed by any man born of a woman. His killer, Macduff reveals that he was born by caesarean section, which in those days would have meant 'not of a woman' because it was not a natural birth and c-sections were rare. Oh to be a member of the audience when that plot twist dropped!
@@Raptor302 Yeah, I feel like this and the Huorns are Tolkien's fix-fic for parts of Macbeth thought he thought were stupid or could have been cooler 😂
Tolkine made the Witch King's prophecy literally to prove a point against Shakespeare. The prophecy was told that he would not die by the hand of a man. But the prophecy wasn't written. So it could mean both "man" in the sense of a male, and Man in the sense of the race. And it happens in both ways: Merry (a man, but not of the race of Man) and Eowyn (of the race of Man, but not a man), killed him
If the Elf said it than he must have been man, as opposed to women since Elves and Man were different races
@@superjlk_9538It took both Merry and Eowyn to slay him.
I love that shot of Eowyn with her hair flowing in the wind.
The animators did a great job
I love that the creative decision was made to have the actual sound of a deflating balloon play when the witch king died.
Just the way Tolkien intended as he wrote in the book the following passage:
"Pssssssssssht."
“It’s; it’s empty! Just like a balloon!” 🎈
My boy got deflated!
like they mixed this epic stuff but someone thought they had to have "typical late 70s cartoon sound effects" from time to time.
Imagine living for centuries, only to be defeated by one stab to the butt, and another to the invisible head
Actually Merry Brandybuck did not stab the witch King in the behind he stabbed him in the back of his knee either way being stabbed with a blade crafted by the weaponsmiths of the kingdom of arnor which was one of the realms in exile created by Elendil the Tall and his sons, was fatal to the witch king of angmar. It weakened the witch King to the point where Eowyn was able to deliver the killing blow.
Actually behind the knee, using a weapon originally forged to fight him. Just saying.
I love the unironic "akshully☝🤓". Regardless of what the books say, you can clearly see the sword going up his butt in this cartoon.
ACSHUALLY... ☝️🤓
Try thousands of years.
The Witch King:
No living man may hinder ME!
Eowyn:
I smell a loophole!
I mean, in the books it was made quite clear that it wasn't a loophole or a technicality but how things were meant to unfold and in the Witch King's arrogance he thought himself invulnerable. It's actually one of my biggest gripes with the films because it led us the audience to believe it too, and then he goes down seemingly so easily.
@@abrahamedelstein4806 Much simpler: it was a profecy
Gil Galad saw in the future the defeat of the witch king by Eowyn and Merry, but not so clearly.
All he could tell was that was slained by something that was not a men
A woman can do what a man can do. Yeah!!
@RoachDoggJr yeah honestly this part always bothered me. Especially given the context, when he said man he didn't mean it in the literal gendered sense. It strikes off that in a series that had almost exclusively men in combat and drew inspiration from history that there was this one oddly feminist part. Always stook out.
@@MALICEM12 what about that backstabbing hobbit? he seems to have been quite important to his downfall
The Witch King looks pretty cool here.
And then he speaks and he sounds like a Monty Python character.
Eowyn is more intimidating than the Witch King😂😂
This version is a mixed bag, but this is one of the best moments, if not the best. The art style is nice, Eowyn's voice actress does an excellent, Casey Kasem is surprisingly great as Merry, and the dialogue is straight from the book.
Love that You didn’t say a single thing about the witch king lol
@@Waltersop she literally said it's a mixed bag
Merry and pippins character designs are too silly looking
Oh man! Casey Kasem! I thought I recognize that voice! I was watching a documentary recently about his death. Very sad.
I was about to comment that Merry sounded like Casey Kasam. That really was him?
this 2min scene is literaly 10x better than entire Rings of Power
It's better than PJ's version of the fight as well
@@wserthmar8908 woah there
@@wserthmar8908 no
@@wserthmar8908 yes, in desperate war everyone stands still and picks their nose to watch the indavidual dramas of the battlefield go down
@@dflaming1371, it's the same in LOTR. Just as many inaccurate scenes, but with worse cinematography. E.g. in the Pelennor fields fight, the horsemen don't even use their shields lol.
The Witch King’s voice belongs to the legendary John Stephenson (one of the two voices of Dr. Benton Quest and also voiced Thundercracker in Transformers G1).
And the voice of the Goblin King from the previous movie, The Hobbit.
And the original Mr. Slate
Scooby Doo is where I recognize that voice from.
Various monsters in Abbott and Costello
I have no diffculty believing he was voiced by a transformer
"A foul putrid wind! How does she bear the stench of it? Strong she is, and brave."
The same has been said about my wife after I've had a Mexican dinner.
criminally underrated comment! LOL!
_"but behold, the horrid curse of Taco Bell was not to be dismissed so quickly"_
Lolz
What about a mexican lunch
😅😅😅
@axnyslie The witch king used his Fart of Fury. (If you understand this reference to a classic arcade game then congratulations you win +5 internets.)
All those big warriors and the only one jumping to help is Merry :D
DOES THOU NOT KNOW THE PROPHECY?!
Because he's not a man either. Remember the prophecy.
He also has an enchanted blade that was the actual reason she was able to kill him. It wasn't really because she was a women since " man " was referring to the race if men which includes women. It was merry's special blade that actually weakened him. Also he's a hobbit.
The movies make it seem like the fact she I'd a women is the reason.
@@deliacolquhoun2845 yeah the movies just did a feminist interpretation which would obviously not be what Tolkien would have written. He was a hardcore traditional Catholic. Not an Anglican.
@@Tokmurok wtf are you talking about, the movies didn’t add any feminism stuff, it was portrayed pretty much as in the books.
Merry: "Zoinks! It's a N-N-N-Nazgûl!"
The Witch-King: "Don't play with semantics. It's obvious I was talking about humans in general".
1:28
when a girl joins the game
Merry was portrayed by the late Casey Kasem, voice of Robin from the original animated Batman and Shaggy from Scooby-Doo.
Oh awesome!!! Haha I've been watching batman animated recently. Now I gotta watch Scooby-Doo too
Like zoinks!
@@senorsardonico6153 Zoinks Pippin! I just killed the Witch King!
A He-man villain versus a hot anime babe.
Why the hell did no one ever think of this before?
Uh she's not actually anime.
@@ShaulaXNinja Yes this is an American production. But the babe LOOKS anime. Her hair, eyes, skin, etc etc are all anime in visual style, in total incongruity with every other character in the scene.
@@ShaulaXNinja Actually, the animation from Rankin & Bass films are American Anime hybrid. Japanese animators were greatly involved in this and Thundercats.
@@ShaulaXNinja Hate to tell ya this skippy, but the Japanese would call this and anything else anime. Anime is just a shortening of the Japanese pronounciation of the word animation. So yeah this would be anime no matter how many weebs say otherwise.
@@mkaplan1383 And some of them, as I have heard, later worked in studio Ghibli.
Still better than ROP.
It's better than Rings of Power.
Eowyn is an amazing character! A heroine anyone can look up to.
@fauteuillouisxv 🙌🙌🙌 Hell yeah!
Probably inspired by Joan of Arc is my best bet. But yeah she looks cool here. Just too bad rest of this cartoon isnt great in itself. Return of the King movie made up for it though by Peter Jackson
Except for cooking…
@@matrix91234 made up?
The Hobbits most certainly look up to her. Unless they stand on a chair.
The actual definition of stunning and brave
Rare example of stunning and brave being an actual compliment.
But she isn't fat, black, and disabled so she is racist.
There's earning those words in mockery, and then there's earning them in RESPECT.
0:38 I AM SKELATOR! I DARE ANYTHING!
This actually predates Skeletor, so if anything Skeletor sounds like the Rankin-Bass Witch-King than the other way around.
Ah yes, the Witch King of Skeletor
This is another reason why the animated version is better than the live action one.
True
Yeah, it's better than the live action....the rings of power live action. If you compare this to the peter jackson return of the king is just pathetic😂
Eowyn is peak waifu material.
Yet Aragorn ditch her. But hey it was aragorn, and he married a goddess.
@@JonJon-pj9ly There's no goddesses in LOTR. There's only one God, and that's Eru Illuvatar.
@@HolyknightVader999 I was being obviously ironic. I know there are no godesses, but Arwen ranks are higher than Eowyns, she was not only an elf, but also descendent of a maiar.
Anime Éowyn will return.
@@HolyknightVader999 Yes, and I intensely dislike the notion by some people who said he gave Gollum an invisible kick into the Fires of Doom. He may as well have done that to Frodo, for their attitude. Perhaps they're Morgoth worshippers?
Man, the new She-Ra remake looks cool
Better than the Netflix abomination
She was so brave 😭
She was seeking death in battle. -They didn't show the tears on her face for her fallen lord.- Oops I stand corrected, they were at the end under click-pictures for other videos.
i love the semi-realistic dress of the Witchking, he actually looks like a war lord from a previous age
I like how unlike in the other version where soldiers are busy with fighting, there seems to be dozens of not hundreds of men nearby just standing there.
Soldier 1: Hey Paul, do you think we should help Eowyn?
Soldier 2: Nah dawg, we men and men can't kill a witch king.
Soldier 1: Good point. Good point.
In the boom the arival of the witch king scared of the horses that the guards were on
They respect the 1vs1 😆
Look, she's clearly an anime protagonist, just look at her hair. she's got this.
Give me the ring He-Man!
eowyin design in this cartoon was pretty great
And her hair stays gorgeous the whole time in spite of riding for days under a helmet and having no shower. Go, girl!
maybe its everyone imagination lol i mean everything is so.... awful and theres eowyn that sure stinks wrost than a fish market but hey she looks better than everything else
Maybe she’s worth it…
@@YOUFREAKINNERDAn old comment that deserves recognition.
How could she fight in armor that covers more than a bikini would?
Just a perk of being an Eorlingas! Great hair don't care!
The fact that the voice coming out of Merry is pretty much Casey Kasem doing his Shaggy voice is killing me lol
First thing I noticed. Always have; it made watching "Super Friends" difficult in the 70s and Casey's Top 40 in the 80s. 😄
I think Eowyn looks super cute and brave, why is it that some people get mad at strong women in movies?
The dialogue is closer to the book in this than in the Peter Jackson film.
And…?
@@ulfberht4431 That is why I personally like it more... this scene anyway. Marry had no idea she was there in the books until she revealed herself. And she didn't go for glory, she went hoping for honor and a quick death.
True, but there’s a big difference to what is literally compatible and what is theatrically compatible, a book needs to go into great detail to inspire the imagination whilst the films need to be brief, practical yet exciting to keep their viewership.
Yeaaah I honestly don’t know if that’s a good thing
I've read the books and if I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the English in it didn't sound this Shakespearean.
eowyn is bae
In this version, and for me in the movies as well.
Henceforth, "Baeonwyn"?
@@taokenhanma2083 No, not in the movies...
@@Lupain damn 😂
When is she not?
2:12 Anyone else hear the notes of Sauron's theme 20 years before Peter Jackson and Howard Shore composed it?!
Hmm, there is a little bit in it, yea.
More sad and slowly, but I recognize the few notes.
Good catch
Holy shit, you’re right. I don’t they’ve really led on just how inspirational the animated films were.
It's only the first 3 or 4, but it seems definitely to be the inspiration
You learn something new every day
Man... I feel like thr Peter Jackson soundtrack is the best in the business.
Vi parte de esta animación cuando tenía 6 años, en Cartoon Network, no sabía que era del señor de los anillos. Busque por años sin el nombre y por memoria de lo que había visto. No lo relacionaba, y me había dado por vencido... Hoy sin querer, aquí lo he encontrado.
it's amazing what the internet can do
Tengo una listita de dibujos animados que vi de chico y escenas que recuerdo, que se perdieron, y cada tanto reaparece alguno de esta manera. Por ejemplo, me pasó con la serie bravestar.
Estaba en español
@@urielsidneydiazvelarde8736 no estoy seguro, y no he podido encontrarlo completo
Yo la vi por TVN a comienzos de los 90s y aluciné
Still better than rings of power..
@@MagicNumberArg that although the visuals are not the best etc, and for sure it did not cost 1billion, it is better than rings of power (I know different story etc, but i mean the quality)
Everyone’s talking about how the Witch-king sounds like Skeletor but no one’s talking about how Merry at 1:12 sounds just like Shaggy; Also, Merry having Shaggy’s voice does sound extremely fitting.
You missed him give the top 40 of Lord of the Rings songs.
It’s the same guy that does the voice, Casey Kasem
Not hearing shaggy at all, voice has much different inflection and is deeper
All I hear is Robin from Super Friends
@@jesseperry9602 still Kasems voice
If only John Hurt voiced him like The Horned King it would’ve been better
They were voiced by the same guy?!?! Agh that's so dissapointing, that would have made this scene so legendary
Funny, I was thinking of him when I heard Gollum's voice.
@Link0304 No witch king was John Stephenson.
It was a good deed on Eowyn's part to have defeated the leader of the Nazgûl.
"No living autobot can hinder me!"
Arcee: "I missed the part where that's my problem!"
Optimus: Huffer? What are you doing?
(The Witch King's actor played Huffer and Thundercracker)
Still way better then ROP.😂
Animated Eowyn is hotter than movie Eowyn
Nay, Miranda Otto is gorgeous.
@@forests.9597 Nope
@@mihaimercenarul7467 holy shit taste
@@abbemartensson3850 indeed, your taste îs garbage
@@forests.9597 not the way they portrayed her in the movie.
This version has really grown on me. At this point in the books, Eowyn was resolute and wanted to die in a fitting way. She was suffering from severe depression and the death of her uncle sent her over the edge. Much like Theoden at Helm's Deep, she's accepted death and wishes to face it head on, standing tall in front of it's incarnation. Though it's certainly not perfect, I prefer it over Jackson's version of the scene, and his whole take on Eowyn's character, which didn't translate well into the screen in my opinion.
One of the things Jackson got so wrong, the other glaring example was Faramir unfortunately.
That's a good point. It's not so bad as his butchery of Faramir, so I hadn't really considered it, but you're quite right.
@@balrogthane It's painful. And the way they justify it in interviews makes it even worse.
Nah its perfect the only thing is I wish it was more interaction between her and merry
Dude what? Everything was better in the Jackson Version. The witchking looked dogshit in this one and was goofey animated..
melhor que a serie da amazon
Fato!! Essa é a diferença entre uma mulher guerreira e a mulher macho da Amazon
The line in the book was, "Stand not between the Nazgul and his prey, or he will NOT slay thee in thy turn, but bear thee away to the houses of lamentation..."
He was promising her she would wish she were dead.
Torture!
Just reading LotR again now, and I was surprised to read, "And thus spoke the Witch-King, his shrill voice upon the air as Skeletor, shriveling the hearts of even He-Men in Minas TIrith."
Samus is a girl?!?
As fun as this movie is, I wish that Ralph Bakshi had made his 'Lord of the Rings Part 2' animated film.
More guts and poise than most modern, strong women TV heroes.
Jesus, did they spend half the budget on her hair animation? 0:51 1:55 2:10 the movement is amazing for 1979
I was not expecting the Witch King to sound like robot Skeletor
Skeletor was a good voice-actor
Eowyn is kind of bangin in this. Lol
Still better then what Amazon is doing to the franchise
Eowyn is drawn so beautifully here. It’s Rankin Bass, but the animators were actually Japanese-you can see the anime look in her character.
At last, the captain of the Nazgul portrayed just as Tolkien described him. It is well known that the bitch king of Angmar had a voice that, and I quote "Made all the Rohirrim laugh", as well as having a random crown floating above his laser eyes. Never give an evil sorcerer a magic ring.
The crown and eyes are book accurate. When he takes off his hood, He’s wearing a crown but his head is invisible so you just see it floating with the glow of his eyes beneath.
Eowyn strong sword fight in the lord of the ring return the king anime
Way better than that crap called Rings of Power…
Much better than the rings of power.
Absolutely, but that's a low bar you've set!
@@Scrubasteveable hehehe I know, and you know I am right. Spam your 1's at IMDB.
Still better than amazon
This animated movie and Peter Jackson's blockbuster film. They both have a badass Eyowen.
Eowyn is adorable
Still better than any scene in the Rings of Power abomination
she flashed that rathalos right out of the sky what a pro
Hopefully she carves a Rathalos Mantle.
That is indeed a different time, where the voice of an evil villain didn't sounded deep, dark and rough, it sounded like this
Hermoso, el cabello de Eowyn :)
The naz-gul 🤣 like an angry seagul that was denied chips.
th-cam.com/video/qfIRHREMgm4/w-d-xo.html spare chippies anyone?
legend has it that the Witchking of Angmar to this day haunts a chipshop in Exeter in such guise
Eowyn is so amazing here
The Witch King was voiced by John Stephenson. He was the voice of Mr. Slate on The Flintstones and many other characters in Hanna-Barbara cartoons.
Merry was voiced by Casey Kasem. He was the voice of Shaggy on Scooby-Doo and Robin on The Superfriends.
I didn't know Eowyn had a sword like Link that shot enemyy beams.
I like how Angmar just out-gassed upon death.
still better than amazon series
Well that was million times better compared to Rings of Power.
yoo this is actually fire
"I am no Man" is awesome don't get me wrong, but I like that this version is closer to the book.