Weapons with the Kilt???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- We all know that the Claymore (of either type) was a classic weapon of the Highlanders. And even today Scottish soldiers will often wear the Highland dirk on the belt. Lots of gents wear the Sgian Dubh in their kilt hose (sock). When is it appropriate to wear weapons with a your kilt?
What goes with a kilt? What doesn't?
What weapons did Scottish warriors use? And what Scottish weapons are worn today by regular people?
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Erik: Philly Police & Fire
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Best man at a wedding needs a sword or pistol. Historically it's the best man's job to duel anyone who objects to the wedding.
One of my friends wore his kilt to my wedding and asked permission to open carry his handgun. I said no problem! And we have wedding photos which him having a gun on his hip.
Haha, I was thinking exactly this. I would not do this, but the imagery is pure gold!
open carry with a kilt, "come git some!"
My brother teaches skydiving. A nervous student fumbled his glove and dropped it at my brother's feet. My brother looked down at the glove, "Swords or Pistols?" It has become a standard joke now at the centre where he works if anyone drops their glove!
Dirk!! I’ll be forging one soon!🔥⚒💪🏻
The last actual Highland games they had at the queen Mary, I ran into a police officer who was kilted. He had on his uniform shirt and I forgot the tartan he was wearing. But instead of his gun he had a Dirk.
So sad some kilt groups in social media feel offended for pics if men in kilt with firearms, although the pic is in shooting range and safely carrying.
Highlanders don't use cutlery. It is a weapon with a blade
I've found it customary in my years of Highland Games that a Sgian Dubh and Dirk are common place. The carrying of a Axe or sword isn't unheard of but not quite as common. The Sgian Dubh is the most common but the Dirk holds far more tradition culturally. From declaring fealty to cutting of the Haggis, the Dirk takes the stage.
I can remember going to the Pennsic War (SCA) at Cooper's Lake in Slippery Rock, Pennsylvania, and seeing men walking around with the Sgian Dubh and a Dirk and using one or the other for eating. I used to have a lot of fun at that event.
I usually carry a 1911 on my belt, a compact 9 in my sporran
Thanks for this video. People also need to know the weapons laws of where they are living. I have known two people who claim to have had their sgians seized by police in the Chicagoland area because it is considered a 'concealed weapon' there. There usually is not a problem if you are participating in an event in Chicago, but remove it from your hose before you go into a convenience store. Anyhow, check local laws and regs before you go out armed in public (or wear a plastic sgian).
I carry an EDC on my belt always. Since I'm crippled up, I use a Sheppards axe for my cane. No one has ever questioned it. It does have a small sheath covering the blade which acts as a pad for my hand. Court house, or air port, would not be wise.
I wear a dirk every single day, and about 25% of the time I am also wearing a basket-hilt backsword.
@M. S. they are specifically named in the law here too. Do some research though and carefully read the law and their definitions as a Scottish dirk does not meet the definition of most because it is only single edged and most of the states describe it as double edged like a dagger. Also, here in Hawaii there is no clear definition but the law specifically states that it is illegal to carry a fork or dagger CONCEALED. I have to point out that little word that the police overlook in the law all the time to them.
@M. S. most of the states copy and paste the law wordings from other states, which is why Scottish dirks are actually legal in most even when they may have intended for them bot to be
I have a basket hilt broadsword that I wore with my great kilt to a Halloween party. For about 10 minutes. Then put it in the truck. Pain in the arse in a crowd.
Y’all just gave me an idea! I’m taking my dirk with me when I go camping!
No formal dinner is complete without a dirk and targe. You may have to duel over that last serving of plum duff.
Every now and then when I’m at the Texas Renaissance Festival I’ll wear my Claymore sword when I really want to get noticed.
In 2021, instead of a claymore, I'd wear my EDC sidearm. I'd carry a decent sheath knife instead of a dirk. But I am in the market for a sgian dubh with a decent blade.
A couple of years back I wore a dirk in the centre of Edinburgh, even went through security in the conference centre without being challenged. I will add that the dirk had a plastic safety blade, but from the outside nobody knew that and I never had to draw it to prove that as I was never challenged. I have also worn full highland outfit to the House of Lords, where I substituted the sgian dhu, for a sgian brew, erring on the side of caution again.
When I was at Dragon Con last year, I was cosplaying Killian Jones aka OUAT's Captain Hook. My plastic hook was peace-tied with a little yellow zip-tie around it to go into the walk of fame ballroom. After I left the room, I just slid the tie off the end because it wasn't actually secured on in any way.
I shifted to wearing my sword on my Baldric, this makes it easy to convert from fantasy Highlander to medieval serf. Still gets in the way, and the advice is sound, but I am there to play, after all.
The struggle is real. As soon as the parade is done at the ren faire, out to the car and drop my gear.
I’ve been to zero Highland Games where I’ve had to peace tie my Dirk or any of my blades, and there are tons of non-reenactors that wear Dirks and carry swords at the games. It’s the Renaissance fairs that usually require you to piece tie, unless you’re in a reenactment/renaissance section of a Scottish games. I’ve been going to the games since 1999 in liberal California. If you’re going to wear a kilt, wear a Dirk. That’s my philosophy anyway
I agree. As a Bladesmith, I made my own.😁
I wear my dirk and pistol when hiking and bushcrafting in my kilt occasionally an axe, I don't see a necessity when in a formal scenario
I’m always carrying these guns! “ kissing biceps!“
I sometimes wear a basket-kilted backsword to the local ren faire just for fun. It does have to be tied into the scabbard but as mentioned, it's just a prop. Otherwise, when I wear a casual kilt I clip my folding knife into the pocket just like I do in my trousers. With a traditional kilt I wear a skein dubh for more formal events. In a traditional kilt for casual wear I carry my usual folding knife in the top of my hose just like a skein dubh. I used to have a lovely stag horn-handled small skinning knife which looked great but I lost it long ago. :-( Most skein dubhs aren't made with actual use in mind and their blades are flimsy and/or made of poor steel. I use my knife for all sorts of things every day and if I'm going to carry one at all, I want it to be useful.
i was a bit disappointed to learn that I couldn't wear a costume blade in Scotland.
At a festival i always have at least two bladed weapons usually three sometimes more. Never been asked to safety tie them. Also sometimes my concealed carry weapon. The swords can get cumbersome depending on how you wear them and for how long.
Ive been in the sca. kingdom of the west principality of sinagua in the barony of riven oak since i was 7. And have always carried live steel. And im 42 now the main one is a rapier. Its full tang but barely ever gets pulled i now carrie it more out of habit... Than anything else.. I also do renfair . and armored combat federation ACF
Apparently it greatly depends on social context. Nobody bats an eye at a dirk worn with a kilt at any of the Highland Games, Burn's Nights, Scottish country dances, or SCA events I've been attending in Virginia, North Carolina, etc. the last twenty years. The only time it's ever even come up was for Kirkins at Colonial Presbyterian, and even then most of us continue to wear them for the Sunday morning service every year.
I carry concealed but have never figured out a good way to do this while kilted. A few of my band mates are sworn and they open carry their sidearms.
I mean I carry a gun with my kilt but maybe that’s just me 🤣
If I'm going to be drinking I never even take a sgian dubh let alone wear it. This is not because I would think that I cannot control myself, I am a vet and carried more dangerous weapons in my time. In the UK our attitude to being armed is completely different to the US. It is illegal here to have a blade bigger than 4 inches (10cm) in public and guns are a no no, even to own one the hurdles are so high. For men if you cannot manage more than 4 inches you definitely do not want to show it in public.
It’s look like north Ireland are the only part in UK that people can own gun for personal protection and armed polices are common(and they armed although iff duty hours).
And I known for n Britain and Scotland, only special unit polices force(like SWAT in US) only the armed polices, and pistol a is very very hard to get licensed , and the farmers in rural areas of that owned the guns for pest killing not for personal protection.
@@oatseawong6664 I could tell tales about that, I served there in the early 70s.
@@oatseawong6664 There are armed police in GB on daily duties and not just special officers. When you go through International airports see what they are carrying.
@@colinp2238 oh i forgot that point, armed polices (excluded SFO) are common in GB in the area that need more security than normal so ch as palace and airports.
I winder something about armed polices and pistol license in GB, can police/detective constables can obtained the pistol for themselves? By not the requires from their unit.
See you in the hall brother, Skol!
Heard some time ago something called Sgian Brew that is a bottle opener looking like a Sgian Dubh.
In ye olden times, IF you were allowed to wear a blade in public, it usually was only during travel between towns/cities and when you arrived at your destination you would check your sword (hand it over to an innkeeper or similar) England/Britian had some very strict blade laws.
So if today you were to wear such items, I'd wear them up to arrival, greet my hosts, get a few pictures, then take off my sword and either give to someone to secure or put back I'm my car.
Honestly I think the only time I wore a blade larger than a Sgian Dubh with highland garb was when I was best man at my friend's wedding and he gave us all very nice dirks as groomsman gifts.
Wow thats sad I remember the swords and flintlocks years ago at events it was kool.
Cutlery wise I have an event to run in August.... I shall be mainly sporting a Basket hilted broadsword, supported by a full sized dirk. Both will be peace bonded for the sensitivities of the sheepish amongst us. Dress wise, the great kilt is the option for the Saturday, but maybe a modern kilt for the Friday and Sunday. For daily wear I wouldn't wear the sword or dirk because they aren't needed these days.
Kilts aren't needed either but the dirk was considered to have major cultural importance to the Highlanders in the same way that Sikhs have a kirpan. The dirk was the most important object a male highlander could own and it's what they swore their oaths on, something that was hugely important at a time when most were illiterate.
An essential at Australian Celtic festivals is a Sgian Brew. Gotta open those beer bottles!!
if you want to wear smth like a sward, wear an umbrella chances are higher for it to come in handy.
You forgot the greatest weapon. Bagpipes!
I wear a long Messer that's about 18 inches of blade length. I use a shoulder scabbard similar to that a pirate might wear. I find it comfortable. The claymore or basket hilt can be rather heavy.
For hobby Im heavy into reenactment, as captain in a historic danish-norwegian artillery unit during The Great Nordic War 1709-1721, I often wear side weapons. It is historic correct and looks good, but its also highly unpractical and a isue when moving arround.
I carry my .45 it hooks to the kilt very well
Do you do this with a standard belt or the wider kilt belt?
Drunk guys sword fighting
Unless the festival posts no weapons, I have my Dirk on me at the games.
Go to the annual Scottish Games & Gathering that happens in Pleasanton, CA every Sept. 2024 will be the 159th year. If you DON'T have at least a dirk or hunting knife on your belt, you'll be in the minority!
I have wore such implements, however if it’s so needed, perhaps 🤔 I should attend to a better crowd. Personally I avoid sketchy crowds. I do like the look , but I agree most venues it’s unacceptable. We can do better cutting cake 🎂 with such , or haggis.. poetry definitely goes with that show.
I have a brown leather kilt with a built in holster for my Colt Single Action Army. Usually I carry a Dirk or a Bollacks knife. The occasional Claymore if I sense any other immortals around. There can be only one!
I wear my Dirk and Feileadh Mòr nearly everyday and dont find it inconvenient.
I sometimes wear a Buck 102 Pro on the waist around town, in the SFBA... open carry.
The first time I went to a con I wore a long, heavy sword. It was a pain. The next year I had the same sword, but only wore it for a couple of photo ops. This year I had a shorter sword that was much lighter and easier to handle. Even still, I only wore it twice for a total of maybe an hour to do photos. The rest of the time I was in kilt outfits instead of costumes. It was more relaxing and more fun.
I have a lovely repro 1581 circa basket hilted broadsword that I wore about a half dozen at the renfaire. It's heavy and a nuisance amongst a crowd. For costume purpose only I will occasionally wear the matching basket hilt dagger in the small of my back. It's far less cumbersome. I would never wear steel to a highland event. There's no reason for it. I do use a really nice antique blackthorn walking stick/cane.
As wearing a Dirk is traditional historical dress you know where it is in the houses of Parliament Anthony
wait, youre not allowed to draw the sword in the US at these festivals? :') in switzerland its common to have ppl draw theyr swords and even fight (beside the cowds ofc). xD
Erik, are you not instructed to carry a weapon by the Havamal?
West coast USA the vast majority of men wear both Sgian dubh AND dirk at Highland Games. Only re-enactors and color guards wear swords. I’ve never heard of anyone getting stupid.
I would say that a dirk would be more acceptable out hiking etc in the role of a machete or large knife
In scotland a sgain dubh and dirk is allowded if in full dress
a kilt joy
In Scotland, the knife laws are very strict - however, the Sgian Dubh and Dirk are exempted as being part of National Dress! Swords are problematic!
I'm surprised you didn't include a section on carrying about self defence weapons while in a kilt or kilted dress.
E.g. where is it convenient to holster your everyday firearm or knife.
So serious question, I live in Ohio, I spent 20 years in the military, I choose to exercise my second amendment rights as Ohio has interpreted them. This means constitutional carry or permit less concealed carry. I’m transitioning to wearing a kilt everyday. What are some of the recommended ways of carrying concealed in a kilt, or are there any? Obviously some kilts lend themselves better to this, like utility kilts, but I’m more of a fan of the traditional kilts you guys offer.
Just noticed ma grandad At 3:24
(He’s the baldy holding a glass of champagne)
So the Lochaber axe is out? So noted.
You might have to wear a dirk to dinner... at Robert Burns Night.
Well I know for mine they do piece tie it but I prefer to wear mine to Ren Fest. Officers will usually only partially piece tie mine (I guess they get a sense that I don't care to remove my blades from scabbards anyway plus they all are not sharp, of which they would be correct.) Now for the highland games, because it's more for the modern day, I don't care to wear any of my period blades. Usually just a simple pocket knife in case I need to open a product bag that might be tricky.
If I do. The dirk will be the largest I go with. Plus a skiegn duh.
Sorry dude I have doned a knife of various sizes my entire life including Dirk and I am 73 and will wear it as it pleases me.
A SPORK !
You carry a Swiss Army Knife, to fight off the customers with the tweezers. :-)
Having said that, I suspect a run of Sgian Swiss Army Knives (SAK with custom scales in tartan, or with a saltire) might sell well.
Wears and what holster is the best to wear with a kilt the carry a modern day full size compact or otherwise pistol
Conceal a handgun in a shoulder holster under your tweed jacket
Very interesting topic. I am one of those people that is always carrying - pistol. I am a concealed carry permit holder. I get what he is saying as to wanting to be authentic with a dirk or sword, etc. and he comes up with some great point of views. However, with someone like me, where I think I have the right (need the right) to protect my family and myself at all times, I would find a way to carry (concealed of course) my pistol. Now, I am not going to break the law and carry unlawfully, but I would not mind being able to carry concealed. Is there a way to make a concealed compartment in your kilt?
Concealed compartment IN the kilt (as in sewn in pocket for a pistol) - For weight purposes, not really as it would affect the way the kilt hangs. The options which have been discussed before are:
1. IWB Kidney Carry / Appendix / Small of back - Only works with a sweater / sweatshirt since shirts are typically tucked inside of the kilt
2. Shoulder Holster - Only works with a jacket
3. Thigh holster worn under the kilt
4. Pistol inside the sporran (which really limits capacity of the sporran to carry things like keys, wallet, phone)
@@USAKiltsOfficial. Thank you for the info! I think I will go for option 1, and possibly option 3. I do have a shoulder holster, but with everything you have to put in it is a bit cumbersome. I also have an ankle holster, but I am pretty sure that would not work with a kilt.
I’d like to work out every day during the summer I also would like to wear a traditional bell with my kilt but it won’t let me to take him use my every day Carrie stuff like my gun what do you suggest about carrying a gun with the traditional kill belt that’s why without getting a custom-made holster because I sure don’t wanna carry it in the front and have that slap me in the nether regions all day
Ren Faires, etc, Yes !!!!
(Peace tied)
Any other event, absolutely not !
I’d love to wear a gun with my kilt but I’ve yet to find a comfortable way to conceal it.
Shoulder holster with jacket.
I’m a SCAdian and I hardly ever carry a blade unless I’m fencing. I will wear a sgian bru at times or a plastic knife/set of chop sticks when I’m at a Fest.
I Wear A 4 1/2 inch Fixed blade on my belt Normally just walking around everyday or Just a Small pocket knife
Swords are heavy, this is why you should just carry a small axe. Axe throwing is becoming really popular in America so a good throwing axe would be a nice accessory.
concealed carry with a kilt might actually work well
merica obviously
Same same, military balls. If you're the adjutant or part of the sword detail, you wear your sword for that and then dump it as soon as is humanly possible.
what about if you wear a kilt and wanna have a claymore ?
What & how about caring a concealed pistol?
The subtitle reads "skin due" instead of sgian dubh 😂
I think the fact that someone is asking this question shows that their interest is on the wrong area.
Marching/parade pipe bands, with a military uniform usually wear the dirk and the stocking knife.....
As a member of pipe bands for twenty five years, I can say I have only seen dirks on military Scottish Regimental bands in Canada or Scotland when in their full no 1 or really terrible bands who don’t police what people wear. Dirks are expensive for a band to source.
@@kiltymacbagpipe I played lead stroke in the John F Nichol pipe band in Towson MD. in the 80's. We wore full regimental uniforms down to our checkered socks and spats. All wore a regimental dirk, our drum line worn the leopard skin aprons. Our drum major served with the Scot Guards . I now play bass for a Baltimore MD. based Irish band with saffron kilts etc. known as Na Fianna. Most carry dirks and stocking knives .
@@bobbieschke599 I play with the Royal Canadian mounted police pipes, drums and dancers. We don’t allow people to wear a dirk because it’s not issued by the band. We wear our own Sgian Dubh but it’s the only piece of kit that has any variance. We don’t allow water bottles or cell phone holders etc. We take the uniformity part of a uniform seriously. The Scottish regiments up here have dirks for their full no1 dress, but they belong to the band and individuals are not permitted to wear their own. I have performed along side the Scots Guards and other household division bands in the UK, and they are the same. In Canada and from what I have seen the UK the no1 dress for civilian bands is rare and dirks are just as rare. I think my point stands, maybe not the bad band part, but bands don’t issue dirks very often today.
@@kiltymacbagpipe as a 23 year retired USArmy Capt. uniformity is taken seriously. Each dirk is a private purchase. You have a wonderful piping day ! 👍
What about modern wearing a pistol for self defense open carry or concealed?
There’s also the trouble of legality. Dirks are still listed on law books across the US as illegal weapons. One reason is bigotry.
If your in the states why not just use the Glock in your Sporran if you need a weapon?
colt in my blouse
I guess you wouldn’t recommend the Claymore either
Where are you guys located in the us?
Spring City, PA.
Imagine a rugby match or a soccer match in dublin that involves the scottish national team playing the irish national and atleast 5000 kilted scottish supporters and many of them carrying claymores in pubs drinking doesn't bare thinking about.Thankfully it doesn't happen they just wear kilts no weapons.
What about concealed carrying (firearms) with a kilt? How does that work?
The same as with trousers with one caveat. You still need an appropriate holster and a cover garment like a jacket or a long shirt but if you're wearing a traditional kilt, the belt is worn too high to be practical as a support for your holster. You could use a shoulder holster or even (I suppose) wear a belt at the level of your hips but that would look pretty goofy. If I'm going to carry a handgun, I usually wear a modern kilt with pockets and belt loops which sits down on my hips in the same position as my jeans. I wear a 2.5" wide double-thickness leather belt which looks very much like it belongs on a kilt and supports my holster and pistol nicely. Depending upon the weather, I then add a jacket or a vest. When I'm wearing a traditional kilt I usually put a small pistol in my jacket pocket if I carry one at all. I have one small enough and flat enough to fit in a sporran but I haven't done that (yet).
I'm thinking of getting a thigh holster and maybe a garder belt to support it.
I used my dirk to fend off some punk kids trying to jump me once.
I carry my Ruger LC9 or LCR 357 in my sporran. And my local festival doesn't care. They are great when it comes to weapons. No real security.
If you can still carry a firearm every day how do you do that wearing a kilt
Uhhh... the same way you carry with jeans or whatever? Gun belt (I wear a Kore Essentials 1.75" Garrison Range Belt) instead of a kilt belt, either an IWB or OWB holster, and a loose shirt to conceal the firearm. 🤷♂
At Ren Faire I have stopped wearing swords and axes all together they're more problem than what they're worth I've started to just wear a knife a pouch and a Tankard on my hip. During certain periods of History normal person doing day to day activities wouldn't really CONSTANTLY carry around a sword all that much and you might have a belt axe if you needed it for the work you did
If I am going to an event that allows these things, I will wear either my blunderbuss and my basket-hilt claymore or my Zweihander alone. I get the most comments from the Zweihander...
A 9mm in my sporran
Get you some really nice blades and hang them on your wall at home
1911s look good with a kilt. Not historical in any sense, but hey.