Tip for sunbracers warlocks. First eat a grenade, then use your melee and then immediately Phoenix dive. If you melee and dive fast enough, you will instantly get your restoration timer to 10-12 seconds as well as have sunbracers activated. Once sunbracers has deactivated, you don’t have to eat your nade again and DO NOT use your dive if you still have time on restoration. Doing this will reset the timer back down to base. I would suggest watching Imagine’s guide to sunbracer warlocks.
There's a surprisingly high amount of people that op for Icarus/rift over heat/dive. People sleep are the benefits of just having heat rises and dive not even on sunbracers
@@cyclo_17eople usually use the Icarus dash just for regular content where u don’t need the restoration and just want the extra mobility. Or they use it especially because of the extra movement in stuff like lowmans/speedruns
Such a subtle transition when you were talking about second but going into the underwater bit as Warlock and coming out of the water as a hunter, very good transition and I almost didn't even notice at first
Healing grenades clutched my solo flawless more than I can count, highly recommended. And don’t be afraid to bail on a damage phase to keep the run alive, the fight is already long, so a little bit longer isn’t to big of a deal
Helpful tip: the water in the first boss section has class changing properties. Datto went into the water as a warlock and came out as a hunter. 8:00 - 8:42 It’s little things like this that I really appreciate.
8:02 Can we talk about how clever this edit was? He went into the methane a warlock and emerged a hunter. Very seamless and subtle, but a really dope edit. Nicely done Datto!
He did it at 25:00 with titan gameplay too lol. I was so confused when he didn't die despite needing to dunk at another symbol with Wizard buff and when I looked back I realized the second he got out his buff changed from the wizard one to the acolyte one lol
Tip for the arc hunters, if you want to fully commit to the punchies, a one-two punch shotgun instead of a trace rifle in the final encounter will, at combination blow x3 on a jolting punch, one-shot every Lucent hive. I used Last Man Standing with pugilist and one-two punch. With assassin's cowl, I just largely ignored moths. Invis will break their aggression and multiple can attach to one enemy, and only one moth will pop out. Also, especially for the 2nd encounter, don't sleep on the flashbang grenade. Makes getting back into the loop both after damage and after being in the water much, much safer
@@intenseowl1255 not a bad option at all, personally I prefer pugilist specifically for Last Man Standing as if something goes wrong getting combination blow rolling again can be quite difficult if you're caught without your dodge or charged melee. Always ready when you need it Vs a contingency plan, couldn't go wrong with either
I almost never threw my grenade for either boss fight because I was focusing on keeping my melee going, until one time the moths came out and I was in a bad spot and tossed the storm grenade. All moths evaporated and I could focus on punching to keep combination blow at x3. Quite the epiphany
If you def got time, i ran the fallen sunstar build with arbalest, ikelos smg, and briars for both bosses. Used a rift then instantly took off shield with arbalest, used chaos reach as a safety net after all 12 shots of briars either to do damage or clear ads for another rift. Did the dungeon in 2 hours EDIT: did it with seasonal mods btw, all you really need is amped up, safety of constant amplification and rift is crazy good
Leviathans breath is an incredible choice for final boss dps because if its ability to stun the boss, Paired with the catalyst you can get off all 15 shots in a damage phase
@@BIGFESHhow? I tried using arby, and... Nothing. She still moves. Doesn't matter if I break her shield only, if break and one more shot, I tried headshots, bodyshots - Nothing, She still teleports.
For Sunbracers Warlock: try throwing your snap melee when you are almost point blank to an enemy or enemies "WHILE LOOKING DOWNWARDS AT THE GROUND". Doing this will dramatically increase the consistency of getting your snap kill for your sunbracer proc. If you do this right you can ignite the target with just your snap alone almost everytime. If you try to throw it infront of you normally, you'll find that a lot of times the snap melee tracking is not very good, especially when enemies are too close to you, and you will miss.
Great guide Datto! Got my Solo Flawless 2 days ago on bonk titan! Used tractor cannon and hammer for Ecthar and for Summumah I used Arby, calus and stormchaser. Got the completion in 1 and 42 minutes! Fun and wild Solo experience
Warlock psa I recomend phoenix dive for final encounter because you can animation cancel deepsite pick up with it. The number of times that saved me is astronomical
i am VERY proud to say that this dungeon was my first attempt at doing a solo dungeon ever. and finished it!! :) I wanted to finish this solo dungeon before bungie nerf the bosses health
@@matsvandeneede5177 If you play hunter or titan I highly recommend giving it a try as the arc hunter and solar titan builds make this dungeon extremely manageable if you’re just going for a solo non flawless run. I got to the final boss my first solo run without dying at all on arc hunter and from what I’ve seen Titans have it made even easier. If you have access to it, absolutely go in with the Solar Titan build because it’s just insane
@@chasesams7980 I've yet to attempt any dungeon solo but I believe I'm going to try this one today with my Arc Hunter. If I didn't want the helmet so bad I'd just use the Titan, lol.
Another possible setup for warlock is dawn chorus with healing grenades. Touch of flame healing grenade is x2 restoration and dawn chorus triples scorch damage. Run an incandescent weapon and you have a really solid consistent build compared to the high peaks of the sunbracers one
My advice for the solo final boss is to check what the Rib Cage symbol is and do that last. Not necessarily because it's the most optimal spot, but because it's always going to be one of the 3 locations for the vestiges. When you are doing 5-7 phases of this boss keeping things consistent will help to reduce variance and improve muscle memory. I also really enjoyed using Arbalest, Acasias Dejection and Briar's Contempt with Rewind Rounds and High Impact Reserves. I'm unsure if that's the most optimal perk layout but it's passive so all I have to do is aim. The acasias is there for 3 reasons, and none involve it's perks. 1) Moth killing, specifically the ones on the boss ressurection spell. 2) Double special for ammo economy. 3) To proc harmonic resonance on Briar's Contempt. This boss is a lightbearer, so the Origin Trait of the RoN weapons does apply. I did try the new hand cannon with harmonic resonance but found killing moths was far too stressful. Arbalest is an obvious inclusion for the bosses shields as I found the damage output of arbalest is worth losing Harmonic resonance x2, especially since it's likely you are going to run out of briars ammo during the dps phase. I haven't done testing so B&S cataclysm could be better in terms of overall dps, but this is a more simple layout so I found it much easier to get into "the flow" of the fight which I found to much more important then the extra potential damage
For anyone worried about finding a good time to do a loadout swap, use the underwater portals. They're safe. You can just hop in, change whatever you need, and come back out when you're done.
During Ecthar if you're using sunbracers you can swap to a felwinters helm build right before the dps phase, when you finish the knight to break the bosses sheild it also applies a debuff to help with damage.
Tip for titans on the first boss. Synthos have a higher damage buff for your melee if it procs while your in super, so while you're finishing the last wizard unequip synthos,tractor boss on your way to the knight, kill the knight then pop super and re-equip Synthos, take down shield with super and proceed to spam hammer/tractor. You'll go from doing about 100k per hammer to 130k.
@@jaffadew1155 people are expecting the bosses HP's to be toned down a bit. If you play solo these bosses are super beefy. I also managed to flawless but the last boss fight is so long you might end up being tied and lose concentration and end up messing up. I think the last boss has about 13mil health compared to nezzy from root of nightmares he has 12mil or something .
Idk if anyone has already said this but on echtar, on the hole on the wall in the right side where you put the rally flag there is another water entrance but there also two rocks that allow you to stay behind them, take cover and enemies will even de-aggro. You can go to the bathroom, eat, everything, if you need it. On simmumah, if you kill a lightbearer and the red bars, they will not spawn anymore, so just dunk and go there for a little break. Edit: July 2nd, 2023, 1:30pm Just did it. Thanks datto for your guide :3
I've been a Warlock main but after running the dungeon a couple of times with Arc Hunter and Solar/Arc Titan, this is the first time I don't feel comfortable running warlock even on a fireteam so I think for the first time I will run a solo dungeon with another class probably Arc Hunter. I've been using the star eater hunter build and it is mad stupid I get super like in a minute and a half so I get to user the super a couple of times before a damage phase. but thanks for the advices.
friendly tip for sunbracers: if you struggle with procing melee kills with incinerator snap on higher health targets (or just in general), aim your melee at the feet of your enemies. it’ll proc an ignition, which should be able to kill most trap mods.
@Datto bro you make the best complete guides… I’ve been trying to do this off other guides for a while, getting frustrated, I would give up. But with your guide, I finally achieved solo, now on to attempting flawless. Thanks bro, don’t ever stop the grind…
I love the first boss fight with all the adds SO SO SO MUCH! Whether I'm floating around down below or perpetrating genocide above, I always have a great time.
Pro tip, you don't have to kill Vorlog AT the spots, YOU just have to be STANDING in the spots when you do kill him, wherever he may be. I've rocketted it him from afar and as along as i'm standing in the spot, it counts. Makes it much easier knowing this since you now don't have to bother with him chasing you.
Final boss I used riskrunner and cataclysmic on arc leading up to damage and then swap to same class but with arbalest and ikelos smg to do final symbol dunk. Arbalest to take off shield and chaos and catalclysmic for dmg. 6 phase comfortably with no worry the whole time because of arc this season.
This was a real fun experince for me and my clan. We did 3 runs on day 1, on all our characters. Then next morning, we were in a party all solo, working on our solo flawless.
I finished this solo flawless the other day, and I gotta say, while it was probably the longest solo flawless to date, it is definitely not the hardest. Duality is still harder for me because of the short window for damage at the final encounter, in addition to needing to move between multiple bells (so you can't completely crutch on well or bubble), as well as having to deal with psions and incendiors (and their backpacks) during damage phase.
Depends. The bosses have way more health in this dungeon and the dungeon is just longer in general while having more complex mechanics. Duality does have a lot of bs ways to die like phalanxes, incendiary’s and Galrahn, but because of how long ghosts is, it’s much easier to mess up like forgetting to check a symbol or forgetting about the moths. I personally found both to be around the same. I got ghosts done within a couple days of trying but duality did take me far longer, although that was back when phalanxes and incediors could insta kill you by pushing you into a wall.
Tip for Ecthar: If you are using Lament I highly highly highly recommend blocking after killing the mini knight. This will let the boss hit you with no knockback and little damage, allowing a clean start to the damage phase.
Fun fact: Pheonix diving into the water will drop you like a rock to the floor, meaning if you don't like floating and are more used to walking and jumping, you can do that immediately.
For solar titan on ecthar, I did an arbalest shot, swap to tractor, hit one tractor shot, pop super, hit a second tractor shot, swap to acrius, hit one melee and get the three trench barrel shots off. That was pretty much using the entirety of the damage phase timing and ended up being a pretty easy 4 phase if you don’t mess up a damage phase.
Did my solo flawless in 90 minutes. Only spent about 30 min at the final boss. So long as you say the mechanics in your head step by step, it's actually pretty chill. At least for me it was. Ran syntho bonk hammer FYI.
would highly recommend rebooting your game before going for an attempt, been seeing a lot of people dealing with game crashes after having their game open for a few hours, and it would be heartbreaking to lose a solo flawless run due to a game crash.
In my experience solo flawless-ing the dungeon as a hunter, for the 2nd encounter I had the most success running liar's handshake with tractor and a one two punch shotty. The Cross Counter perk heals you for around 70% of your hp bar so you can reliably hit the boss and a cross counter punch hits for ~100k to ~160k if you get the timing right on one two punch, it seemed like the fastest and most safest way of playing it as assassin's cowl doesn't give you the survivability you need for damage phase For 3rd encounter it's very good to have a one two punch shotty with assassin's cowl for hunters as it one shots the lucent hive, assassin's cowl's invisibility makes the moths not be able to target you therefore more likely to stick to ads rather than chase you down and explode on you, I recommend leviathan's breath for damage as it flinches the boss quite a bit therefore giving you a bit more survivability during damage phase!
I've been using glaive in the final boss room. With the shield up, it can withstand a full volley of lucent moths rather easily. It also really helps surviving in the lucent hive rooms
Elliptic Distaff works VERY well on gyrfalcons hunter. Gun and run is a pretty good perk, combined with destabilizing for invis procs makes for a very good weapon, also believe glaive melee kills work with the *[melee kills grant grenade energy]* fragment so that's nice for devour-nade loops
In my final boss kills I ran a riskrunner loadout for all 3. My actual damage loadout had arby and cataclysmic on with double special, the thrall etc that spawn during damage were more than enough to provide me unlimited ammo for each phase for both specials and heavy. A riptide melted the lucent hive and meant arby always had ammo in the swap I highly recommend it. Use the water to swap loadouts it might be in a timer but it is by far the safest area to be changing things in your menus
Pro tip for Arc Hunters: During Ecthar damage, if your grenade can cause jolt, save it for after after your super runs out. This will give you extra boss damage and control/kill adds that walk up for longer.
I used a tracking explosive hothead for my solo flawless Simumama. 1 Arby shot, then a x3 roaring flames hammer super, then 6-9 rockets is a consistent 5 phase on her. For more survivability run riskrunner till dmg (no need to fire the gun its just on for dmg resist) then swap to arby. Just for the rocket before you fire each rocket look at your radar and make sure the inner circle is not glowing or jump in the air each time you fire. My 1st boss strat was identical to Datto's
For warlocks on last encounter I ran Stag + Riskrunner until it was DPS time, then I switched to Arbalest + Geomags + Taipan. You're tanky, won't die, and you give off consistent damage each DPS phase
Addition for the lament strategy. The best combo for dps is 2 charged lights into a heavy, 2 uncharted lights, repeat. If u are not running double special for some reason or struggle with ammo, you do 3 charged lights into a heavy into 3 uncharged lights, repeat.
Thank you for this video. I’ve been struggling with the second boss on hunter and the SES suggestion was absolutely the piece I was missing. The overshield was just what I needed and because I didn’t have to swap loadouts mid fight from Arby to sword I didn’t have to try to recover from low health while I was in my menu. Really can’t tell you enough how grateful I am.
Second encounter for arc hunters: instead of using a sword, a shotgun with one-two punch and lair's handshake works great just keep a few ads to alive to refresh combination blow. Can be done with arablast or tractor cannon, or even with hot swapping them
for the warlock build i still use starfire because i can eat grenade and still use a grenade for kills whilst in heat rises. plus you get your pheonix dive back on fusion nade kill which entirely negates some need for fragments and you can customize the build even more edit: you can also spam pheonix dive more consistently and have it up more if you use pheonix dive as you throw a nade because the fusion will get a kill after it is used up
Something I see rarely said on Bonk Titans, but when you have even x1 Roaring Flames, you can regular melee which gets bonus damage from Roaring Flames (bit less that double at x3) to get sun spots on kills and add another stack to your Roaring Flames. So you can get x3 as long as you prime it with an ability (grenade or hammer kill) to get it to x1. This is better for small enemies like Acolytes & Thralls that you can easily miss and chuck your hammer into the void, but can still one shot with a regular melee. This way you can get guaranteed sun spots and not worry about your hammer. But don't be afraid to use it on high health enemies as you deal Scorch with Roaring Flames & regular melee so after 3 or so punches they explode! Although I think I may have used the fragment for more Scorch stacks so your mileage may vary. And as always Syntho's is helpful no matter how you melee.
If you are struggling with solar Warlock and sunbracers, while Heat Rises is active, snap+Fenix dive will provide enough scorch stacks for an ignition, killing *everything* short of the ogre and the Lucent Hive and giving you Restoration x2, and if the first source of scorch is your snap, anything killed by the ignition will count as a melee kill, procing sunbracers. So eat grenade>snap>jump>fenix dive onto an enemy and you get everything, a room clearing ignition, resto x2 and sunbracers. Oh and for the love of God, use Leviathan's breath for the final boss, it locks her in place and prevents any teleports.
The back little rooms with water can be sit in without going into the water to worry any enemies. Also solar nade is great with roaring flames in this room.
0:24 I doubt Bungie will make any changes tbh. Everyone told them when Spire released that the health pools were a bit too much, and they didn't even address the feedback let alone change anything.
@@dyakonov There wasn't a health increase in lightfall. S19 had solo operative and weakened clear, and warlocks specifically did more damage than intended against Persys due to being in a well. Those mods are now gone and the well bug has since been fixed.
For Ecthar I used felwinters with the invis/finisher build. Paired with a repulser brace shotgun I was near unkillable. Damage phase was tough but I used lament to stay alive.
Got the solo flawless on this with my hunter. Not gonna lie, one of the best runs of my life. Still gonna be a Warlock main any day of the week, but this was the dungeon my Hunter earned his place. For Ecthar, I ran Arbalest, One Two Punch Shot Gun, Liars handshake and gathering storm. the main priority is to keep the Combination Blows at level 3. Before dps, try to kill any boomer knights down by the boss spawn. They can be a big problem when trying to do dps. During dps, kill the shield knight, use arb to break shield, then gathering storm and one two punch melee combo for damage. To sustain damage, keep adds alive to reproc comblows. Bail from dps when needed. should be easy. Used Assassins Cowl for the final boss and a double special build for max heavy drops. For Damage, I actually rocked Ascendancy. Try using something with tracking/Explosive light, but Ascendancy works just fine if you don't have anything better. When doing damage, be sure to keep some thrall alive to keep your invis proced. Run Arb to break shield, gathering storm, then use Ascendancy for dps. With the double special weapon build, you should have more than enough ammunition on the ground for the whole phase. Before you fire, jump to avoid shooting thralls/acolytes. WATCH FOR MOTHS!!! I was doing dps, didn't notice a moth flying passed, and turned my nearly finished run into a from the beginning run back. Good Hunting, Guardians!
The new dungeon weapons are super good to use in the dungeon, specifically the GL and rocket. Restoration ritual let’s you cheese out an extra rocket on Simmumah 100% of the time since you’ll be finishing ghosts. Wave frame is just great for ad clear as usual, but unrelenting saved me more times than I can count
Some tips from a solar Titan: Synthoceps let you kill the Hive Guardians on Simmumah in 2 or 3 hammers, making the Wizard and Acolyte a joke. The Knight can still one-shot you with the shield throws, you can wait out their super or use your own. Sleeper Simulant is a good alternative for Leviathan's Breath, if you do not have the catalyst for Levy but do for Sleeper. If you were farming Kalli, you might have done that like me. Xenophage is good too. Healing grenade and your barricade can help you collect the Deepsight buff easily. Wall off the boss or drop a healing grenade before collecting it. Prioritize always being in a sunspot during DPS. A bunch of Thrall spawn before DPS, keep them around until you start DPS. Kill the first one, with a hammer, the rest will die to the sunspot very quickly.
@@S7ayMelochange your bindings so Charged melee and uncharged melee are set to the same button. This prioritizes the Charged melee even when IP close to an enemy.
For rockets I would highly recommend royal entry with field preb and clown cartridge, it does do 20% less damage but the build in tracking and 2 in the mag males up for it.
Yeah I recommend against doing that cause that's what I did and it took something like 10 phases to beat the boss. You're better of using a adaptive rocket with tracking if you one have which I did not.
Arc had better healing for me personally. With spark of resistance, amped up, arc resist mods and risk runner on final boss i was invincible. Not to mention with this loadout rifts feel like wells where you cant die in them. Sunbracers restoration x2 I would get in situations where I got screwed over and couldn't get it when I needed it whereas arc has 99% up time with no effort. Plus lament on first boss came in for some clutch healing moments. Especially when damaging boss it didnt even matter as he was blinded soemtimes and my rift and lament healing me
Sacrifice loadout slots to do loadout swaps. Having to swap armor pieces on and off manually is a small time sink but can get you killed if you're in the thick of it.
For my solo flawless clear on Titan I used the same strat for Ecthar but for Simmumah what worked for me was Xenophage for dps and I used Synthos / Bonk + something to get non decaying armor charge for the setup to get to dps but before leaving the final Lucent Brood chamber switched to another loadout which had Actium War Rig + triple solar surge I used my super to break her shield and unloaded the Xeno on her and killed her in 6 damage cycles took me 1hr 23m for the full run
One thing for the final boss, if you break her sheild instantly (Arbalest) she won't teleport. If you do any other damage first and then Arbalest, she WILL teleport. For the Bait and Switch people
If they do scale the health back (which I agree they should it not a skill test to survive another 2 phases it’s just boring) they should do something for those that did the SF with the current health like when they scale it down put out a second copy of the same SF emblem but put a gold border on the first one just a little something to congratulate people who did the extra dumb grind of 14 million boss dmg. Like if Bungie themselves say it’s too hard it would be nice to have a little acknowledgement that you beat it before they made it easier. Doesn’t matter at all just think it would be cool although I really don’t know if they will lower the health there’s already something like 13,000 people through SF and that’s pretty on level with the other dungeons after first week they may just leave it
For Bonk Titans dealing with echthar: keep up the Tractor debuff at all times during DPS, besides increasing your damage, it also suppresses him. If it wears off, and he becomes unsuppressed, he can then use his abilities to suppress you back, which can end in swift death. Also remember to keep restoration/sunspots rolling, the Cure off your hammer catches is not enough to stay alive on its own
@@ScufinTime if you're on PC, that's easy, use separate bindings for "Charged Melee" and "Uncharged Melee", and DON'T use a binding for "Auto Melee". If you're on console... I have no idea, but I've heard it's weird to get working in a way that feels good because of how little buttons you have to work with.
If you're build is easily capable of maintianing 3+ armor charge opt for a finisher mod to either maintain special ammo or a key ability if it's on cooldown
For anyone going to new comments to talk about titans nerf, I’ve been running my head against a wall for an hour now with a strand banner of war, arbalest to get rid of shield, and a gl which gets around 2 million each time, I don’t know how much health they have but I would say a god damm lot of damage phases hope this helps
The first time me and my friend ran the dungeon, on the second encounter, after many deaths, as we were playing this at like 3 am and our brains stopped working altogether, we forgot to finish the boss... so he respawned with a little bit of hp remaining. THAT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM. We got soft-locked and no ads were spawning and we couldn't deal dmg to the boss because the main mechanic couldn't be completed. :)
Just a hidden tip here for tracking rockets. Typically your tracking rockets should have the lowest velocity you can give them. The lower the velocity on a rocket, the better the tracking. This has been a thing since D1. Im talking about Legendary rocket launchers here. Obviously most Exotic Rocket Launchers are special cases
Not sure if you mentioned it(sorry if you did) but briars contempt is pretty nuts here with surrounded. You can do about 90k damage if you hit 3 crits. Its pretty solid.
fun fact: eating a grenade for heat rises with "sunbracers ready" will still activate the perk, so you don't actually have to toss one first. efficiency.
for anyone unaware the lament combo he uses in this video is suboptimal, it is best to use block-light-light-heavy-light-light repeat, with at least one lucent blade on chest
Solo flawlessed it on day two using solar lock with sunbracers on my second attempt. And I can't say that this dungeon is brutal, it's pretty easy, cos there are a lot of mobs to prock your sustain mechanics for every class and bosses don't really do damage, the only hard part is that this dungeon is really time consuming and you need to stay focused on mechanics for a longer than usual time. I'd say Spire was definetly harder for me, not entire dungeon, but second boss was fucking unforgiving, literally one mistake and this giant ass wyvern will annihilate you, ruining your entire run, plus when I soloed Spire I already had my entire artifact leveled with solo operative and gl debuff, while in GotD I had like 10 perks unlocked and didn't use any of them anyway, since I played on solar. Fully agree on your class recommendations tho, since I used warlock only cos I'm extremely confident on it, plus I absolutely hate to play hammer titan. Btw for solar lock there is much easier way to proc full time resto x2, just eat your nade, use melee and dive really fast and you'll get already extended resto x2 up to 12 seconds.
I am not the best player, but consider myself experienced. I used arc hunter. Liars for the whole first boss, and assassin’s cowl for the second boss. And I threw in loadout swapping mid super animation to pop both boss’s shields with arblest.
Lament only needs 3 light swipes with 1 lucent mod (4 without) to get enough charge to do the whole combo. You do NOT need full charge for full damage on lament!
PSA: If annoyed with the boss over shields, Arbalest is a one shot against them, makes it nice since it’s about a 400k barrier that you can get rid of in one hit
gyrfalcon hunter with izanagi's + palmyra was pretty good for me, use orpheus or star eater to kill the boss's shield really quick then have a solid damage buff to work with after that. udermining vortexing my feet helped a lot for killing ads/ survivability. took me like 5-6 phases but not terrible
I got my solo flawless done 2 days ago, 90 minutes. But maaaaan, this dungeon is a weird one, I didn't think there would be a boss that becomes tankier than persys. What the heck is this? I was honestly hoping we got a new boss that would become another Easy/Ok Artifice farm in master mode, but this is not the case. In master, this dungeon ramps up x50 and almost every hit you take in the boss room will nearly if not outright kill you. I was able to 4 phase the first boss Ecthar, and 5 phase the final boss with leviathan's breath, that bow does wonders with 3 surge mods. Linears didn't work out for me, and didn't have any tracking rockets. Levi is definitely worth it.
I did the whole briar´s setup with all those buffs but focused fury instead of surrounded. No adds won´t matter and no flynch. Still about 150 if landing triple head with all procced.
@@Jenkzyx If full optimized you can get a 4 phase, easy 5. I took 6 cause really poor gameplay, failed everything and also 1st try no pracc. Well left her 1% hp for a 7 but that doesnt really count, was just lag...
Wanted to for a solo clear, but doing it today after seeing this was just a bad call. Got to the final boss worn down from the day and getting gud at the 2nd encounter and just ran out of steam. The moth burst that can just OHKO, the long setup and low damage on the phases I did get... was just too mentally gone to keep at it. Will keep this video on hand, cause I don't really have faith Bungie is going to take another look at the health while solo. I will say, the 1st boss was actually fairly fun once I got the hang of it.
Liar's Handshake is better on the first boss, playing the same way as a Solar Titan I found. Tractor cannon double OTP shotties. With health regen from LH and the melee ascpet, you will never die. You can also four phase the first boss. Assassin's Cowl is better on the last boss as you don't need LH for damage
Tip for sunbracers warlocks. First eat a grenade, then use your melee and then immediately Phoenix dive. If you melee and dive fast enough, you will instantly get your restoration timer to 10-12 seconds as well as have sunbracers activated. Once sunbracers has deactivated, you don’t have to eat your nade again and DO NOT use your dive if you still have time on restoration. Doing this will reset the timer back down to base. I would suggest watching Imagine’s guide to sunbracer warlocks.
There's a surprisingly high amount of people that op for Icarus/rift over heat/dive. People sleep are the benefits of just having heat rises and dive not even on sunbracers
@@cyclo_17eople usually use the Icarus dash just for regular content where u don’t need the restoration and just want the extra mobility. Or they use it especially because of the extra movement in stuff like lowmans/speedruns
I feel happy when someone mentions Imagine's build guides. He is the final boss of Destiny YTbers
@@cyclo_17 ik, Icarus Dash is one hell of a drug
I second this. Imagine’s videos are amazingly well made.
Such a subtle transition when you were talking about second but going into the underwater bit as Warlock and coming out of the water as a hunter, very good transition and I almost didn't even notice at first
I’ve noticed so many of these over the years on datto’s vids, I need to make a list tbh
@@MiniMuni69 that would be great, I’d love to see all the ones I missed
Healing grenades clutched my solo flawless more than I can count, highly recommended. And don’t be afraid to bail on a damage phase to keep the run alive, the fight is already long, so a little bit longer isn’t to big of a deal
Helpful tip: the water in the first boss section has class changing properties. Datto went into the water as a warlock and came out as a hunter. 8:00 - 8:42
It’s little things like this that I really appreciate.
wow, great notice. That editing was also so smooth
8:02
Can we talk about how clever this edit was? He went into the methane a warlock and emerged a hunter. Very seamless and subtle, but a really dope edit. Nicely done Datto!
He did it at 25:00 with titan gameplay too lol. I was so confused when he didn't die despite needing to dunk at another symbol with Wizard buff and when I looked back I realized the second he got out his buff changed from the wizard one to the acolyte one lol
This has gotta be one of the best / most comprehensive guides you've ever made. Insane job dude
Tip for the arc hunters, if you want to fully commit to the punchies, a one-two punch shotgun instead of a trace rifle in the final encounter will, at combination blow x3 on a jolting punch, one-shot every Lucent hive. I used Last Man Standing with pugilist and one-two punch. With assassin's cowl, I just largely ignored moths. Invis will break their aggression and multiple can attach to one enemy, and only one moth will pop out.
Also, especially for the 2nd encounter, don't sleep on the flashbang grenade. Makes getting back into the loop both after damage and after being in the water much, much safer
I use grave robber for my shotgun with one two punch. Reloads my weapons from reserves.
@@intenseowl1255 not a bad option at all, personally I prefer pugilist specifically for Last Man Standing as if something goes wrong getting combination blow rolling again can be quite difficult if you're caught without your dodge or charged melee. Always ready when you need it Vs a contingency plan, couldn't go wrong with either
I almost never threw my grenade for either boss fight because I was focusing on keeping my melee going, until one time the moths came out and I was in a bad spot and tossed the storm grenade. All moths evaporated and I could focus on punching to keep combination blow at x3. Quite the epiphany
@@intenseowl1255 Yeah Ikelos with Grave Robber and Enhanced 1-2 Punch is probably the best shotgun for melee play style.
If you def got time, i ran the fallen sunstar build with arbalest, ikelos smg, and briars for both bosses. Used a rift then instantly took off shield with arbalest, used chaos reach as a safety net after all 12 shots of briars either to do damage or clear ads for another rift. Did the dungeon in 2 hours
EDIT: did it with seasonal mods btw, all you really need is amped up, safety of constant amplification and rift is crazy good
Leviathans breath is an incredible choice for final boss dps because if its ability to stun the boss, Paired with the catalyst you can get off all 15 shots in a damage phase
No need for Levi when 1 arbalest shot keeps her in place for the entire damage phase. She never moves.
@@BIGFESHhow? I tried using arby, and... Nothing. She still moves. Doesn't matter if I break her shield only, if break and one more shot, I tried headshots, bodyshots - Nothing, She still teleports.
@@VerEdon Try firing the arby shot the moment dps starts, that seems to keep her from teleporting
@@lazangna1004 thanks!
For Sunbracers Warlock: try throwing your snap melee when you are almost point blank to an enemy or enemies "WHILE LOOKING DOWNWARDS AT THE GROUND". Doing this will dramatically increase the consistency of getting your snap kill for your sunbracer proc. If you do this right you can ignite the target with just your snap alone almost everytime. If you try to throw it infront of you normally, you'll find that a lot of times the snap melee tracking is not very good, especially when enemies are too close to you, and you will miss.
I was gonna say that Briar's Contempt with Rewind Rounds + High Impact Reserves works pretty well for the final boss too.
Yeah everyone seems to underrate this combo for some reason? You can take advantage of high impact for a while with rewind on it
yeah i 4 phased really easily with briars on titan, the high impact reserves and rewind combo got me doing 100,000+ in a burst
Why not focused fury? Sure it takes some time to get active but it’s a higher damage buff if I’m not wrong
@@VergilPeterson tbh I think focused fury is just as good I was just using what I had!
Use other root of nightmare weapons in your primary and secondary and you’ll get a 10% damage bump
I like Levi Breath for this because the draw time gives you a brief moment to line up your shot if she's moving around.
That also debuffs her doesn't it? Is it as much as what tractor cannon does?
Kinda braindead
@@balinfoley953 nah it just applies volatile rounds on perfect draw
Proximity ward in the class item comes in handy as you have a lot of ghosts to finish
i had a heart breaking moment when doing my last dps phase on last boss… a thrall made me accidently rocket myself
Always doible jump before you shoot a rocket bro
I can feel the excess shrapnel from here
You see this is why i use xenophage for my solo flawless
Why my last phase loudout has a linear with arbalest in it, I'm not taking the risk with rockets here
rip
Great guide Datto! Got my Solo Flawless 2 days ago on bonk titan! Used tractor cannon and hammer for Ecthar and for Summumah I used Arby, calus and stormchaser. Got the completion in 1 and 42 minutes! Fun and wild Solo experience
Warlock psa I recomend phoenix dive for final encounter because you can animation cancel deepsite pick up with it. The number of times that saved me is astronomical
i am VERY proud to say that this dungeon was my first attempt at doing a solo dungeon ever. and finished it!! :) I wanted to finish this solo dungeon before bungie nerf the bosses health
That's a very big accomplishment!!
That's amazing dude! I'm still contemplating if I should give it a shot but I just might have to
@@matsvandeneede5177 the title was way too cool to pass on!
@@matsvandeneede5177 If you play hunter or titan I highly recommend giving it a try as the arc hunter and solar titan builds make this dungeon extremely manageable if you’re just going for a solo non flawless run. I got to the final boss my first solo run without dying at all on arc hunter and from what I’ve seen Titans have it made even easier. If you have access to it, absolutely go in with the Solar Titan build because it’s just insane
@@chasesams7980 I've yet to attempt any dungeon solo but I believe I'm going to try this one today with my Arc Hunter. If I didn't want the helmet so bad I'd just use the Titan, lol.
Another possible setup for warlock is dawn chorus with healing grenades. Touch of flame healing grenade is x2 restoration and dawn chorus triples scorch damage. Run an incandescent weapon and you have a really solid consistent build compared to the high peaks of the sunbracers one
My advice for the solo final boss is to check what the Rib Cage symbol is and do that last. Not necessarily because it's the most optimal spot, but because it's always going to be one of the 3 locations for the vestiges. When you are doing 5-7 phases of this boss keeping things consistent will help to reduce variance and improve muscle memory. I also really enjoyed using Arbalest, Acasias Dejection and Briar's Contempt with Rewind Rounds and High Impact Reserves. I'm unsure if that's the most optimal perk layout but it's passive so all I have to do is aim. The acasias is there for 3 reasons, and none involve it's perks. 1) Moth killing, specifically the ones on the boss ressurection spell. 2) Double special for ammo economy. 3) To proc harmonic resonance on Briar's Contempt. This boss is a lightbearer, so the Origin Trait of the RoN weapons does apply. I did try the new hand cannon with harmonic resonance but found killing moths was far too stressful. Arbalest is an obvious inclusion for the bosses shields as I found the damage output of arbalest is worth losing Harmonic resonance x2, especially since it's likely you are going to run out of briars ammo during the dps phase. I haven't done testing so B&S cataclysm could be better in terms of overall dps, but this is a more simple layout so I found it much easier to get into "the flow" of the fight which I found to much more important then the extra potential damage
For anyone worried about finding a good time to do a loadout swap, use the underwater portals. They're safe. You can just hop in, change whatever you need, and come back out when you're done.
During Ecthar if you're using sunbracers you can swap to a felwinters helm build right before the dps phase, when you finish the knight to break the bosses sheild it also applies a debuff to help with damage.
Tip for titans on the first boss. Synthos have a higher damage buff for your melee if it procs while your in super, so while you're finishing the last wizard unequip synthos,tractor boss on your way to the knight, kill the knight then pop super and re-equip Synthos, take down shield with super and proceed to spam hammer/tractor. You'll go from doing about 100k per hammer to 130k.
After hearing datto say that this is the hardest solo flawless, i now feel way more proud of getting it done before a nerf might happen
What nerf
@@jaffadew1155 people are expecting the bosses HP's to be toned down a bit. If you play solo these bosses are super beefy. I also managed to flawless but the last boss fight is so long you might end up being tied and lose concentration and end up messing up. I think the last boss has about 13mil health compared to nezzy from root of nightmares he has 12mil or something .
Idk if anyone has already said this but on echtar, on the hole on the wall in the right side where you put the rally flag there is another water entrance but there also two rocks that allow you to stay behind them, take cover and enemies will even de-aggro. You can go to the bathroom, eat, everything, if you need it.
On simmumah, if you kill a lightbearer and the red bars, they will not spawn anymore, so just dunk and go there for a little break.
Edit: July 2nd, 2023, 1:30pm
Just did it. Thanks datto for your guide :3
I've been a Warlock main but after running the dungeon a couple of times with Arc Hunter and Solar/Arc Titan, this is the first time I don't feel comfortable running warlock even on a fireteam so I think for the first time I will run a solo dungeon with another class probably Arc Hunter. I've been using the star eater hunter build and it is mad stupid I get super like in a minute and a half so I get to user the super a couple of times before a damage phase. but thanks for the advices.
friendly tip for sunbracers:
if you struggle with procing melee kills with incinerator snap on higher health targets (or just in general), aim your melee at the feet of your enemies. it’ll proc an ignition, which should be able to kill most trap mods.
@Datto bro you make the best complete guides… I’ve been trying to do this off other guides for a while, getting frustrated, I would give up. But with your guide, I finally achieved solo, now on to attempting flawless. Thanks bro, don’t ever stop the grind…
I love the first boss fight with all the adds SO SO SO MUCH! Whether I'm floating around down below or perpetrating genocide above, I always have a great time.
Thanks for the tips, was able to snag a solo flawless after a few heartbreaking run endings.
Pro tip, you don't have to kill Vorlog AT the spots, YOU just have to be STANDING in the spots when you do kill him, wherever he may be.
I've rocketted it him from afar and as along as i'm standing in the spot, it counts.
Makes it much easier knowing this since you now don't have to bother with him chasing you.
Final boss I used riskrunner and cataclysmic on arc leading up to damage and then swap to same class but with arbalest and ikelos smg to do final symbol dunk. Arbalest to take off shield and chaos and catalclysmic for dmg. 6 phase comfortably with no worry the whole time because of arc this season.
This was a real fun experince for me and my clan. We did 3 runs on day 1, on all our characters. Then next morning, we were in a party all solo, working on our solo flawless.
Titans: Boop them, then Bonk them.
I finished this solo flawless the other day, and I gotta say, while it was probably the longest solo flawless to date, it is definitely not the hardest. Duality is still harder for me because of the short window for damage at the final encounter, in addition to needing to move between multiple bells (so you can't completely crutch on well or bubble), as well as having to deal with psions and incendiors (and their backpacks) during damage phase.
Depends. The bosses have way more health in this dungeon and the dungeon is just longer in general while having more complex mechanics. Duality does have a lot of bs ways to die like phalanxes, incendiary’s and Galrahn, but because of how long ghosts is, it’s much easier to mess up like forgetting to check a symbol or forgetting about the moths. I personally found both to be around the same. I got ghosts done within a couple days of trying but duality did take me far longer, although that was back when phalanxes and incediors could insta kill you by pushing you into a wall.
I'm not doing this dungeon solo, but this video is great and serves me more as a build guide.
Honestly, I love solo build videos because they just maximize either survivability or damage and you can just plug into a fire team and do well
Tip for Ecthar: If you are using Lament I highly highly highly recommend blocking after killing the mini knight. This will let the boss hit you with no knockback and little damage, allowing a clean start to the damage phase.
Fun fact: Pheonix diving into the water will drop you like a rock to the floor, meaning if you don't like floating and are more used to walking and jumping, you can do that immediately.
nice to see felwinter helm being talked about lol. one of the best looking helemts lol
For solar titan on ecthar, I did an arbalest shot, swap to tractor, hit one tractor shot, pop super, hit a second tractor shot, swap to acrius, hit one melee and get the three trench barrel shots off. That was pretty much using the entirety of the damage phase timing and ended up being a pretty easy 4 phase if you don’t mess up a damage phase.
8:44 dat transition was very satisfying 🤤
You mean 9:57?
Did my solo flawless in 90 minutes. Only spent about 30 min at the final boss. So long as you say the mechanics in your head step by step, it's actually pretty chill. At least for me it was. Ran syntho bonk hammer FYI.
2:39 Unfathomable drip guardian
would highly recommend rebooting your game before going for an attempt, been seeing a lot of people dealing with game crashes after having their game open for a few hours, and it would be heartbreaking to lose a solo flawless run due to a game crash.
Want more of this level of brutal difficulty in the future. A: because I enjoy it and B: because I also enjoy Datto's videos on brutally hard content
In my experience solo flawless-ing the dungeon as a hunter, for the 2nd encounter I had the most success running liar's handshake with tractor and a one two punch shotty. The Cross Counter perk heals you for around 70% of your hp bar so you can reliably hit the boss and a cross counter punch hits for ~100k to ~160k if you get the timing right on one two punch, it seemed like the fastest and most safest way of playing it as assassin's cowl doesn't give you the survivability you need for damage phase
For 3rd encounter it's very good to have a one two punch shotty with assassin's cowl for hunters as it one shots the lucent hive, assassin's cowl's invisibility makes the moths not be able to target you therefore more likely to stick to ads rather than chase you down and explode on you, I recommend leviathan's breath for damage as it flinches the boss quite a bit therefore giving you a bit more survivability during damage phase!
I've been using glaive in the final boss room. With the shield up, it can withstand a full volley of lucent moths rather easily. It also really helps surviving in the lucent hive rooms
Elliptic Distaff works VERY well on gyrfalcons hunter. Gun and run is a pretty good perk, combined with destabilizing for invis procs makes for a very good weapon, also believe glaive melee kills work with the *[melee kills grant grenade energy]* fragment so that's nice for devour-nade loops
Vexcali is great for survival...
In my final boss kills I ran a riskrunner loadout for all 3. My actual damage loadout had arby and cataclysmic on with double special, the thrall etc that spawn during damage were more than enough to provide me unlimited ammo for each phase for both specials and heavy. A riptide melted the lucent hive and meant arby always had ammo in the swap I highly recommend it. Use the water to swap loadouts it might be in a timer but it is by far the safest area to be changing things in your menus
Pro tip for Arc Hunters: During Ecthar damage, if your grenade can cause jolt, save it for after after your super runs out. This will give you extra boss damage and control/kill adds that walk up for longer.
Dang I didn’t even think of this when I did my run.
Pulse is the way with the fragment that makes it last longer
Thanks for the tip!
I used a tracking explosive hothead for my solo flawless Simumama. 1 Arby shot, then a x3 roaring flames hammer super, then 6-9 rockets is a consistent 5 phase on her.
For more survivability run riskrunner till dmg (no need to fire the gun its just on for dmg resist) then swap to arby.
Just for the rocket before you fire each rocket look at your radar and make sure the inner circle is not glowing or jump in the air each time you fire.
My 1st boss strat was identical to Datto's
For warlocks on last encounter I ran Stag + Riskrunner until it was DPS time, then I switched to Arbalest + Geomags + Taipan. You're tanky, won't die, and you give off consistent damage each DPS phase
Those smooth transitions between class footage tho
Addition for the lament strategy. The best combo for dps is 2 charged lights into a heavy, 2 uncharted lights, repeat. If u are not running double special for some reason or struggle with ammo, you do 3 charged lights into a heavy into 3 uncharged lights, repeat.
Thank you for this video. I’ve been struggling with the second boss on hunter and the SES suggestion was absolutely the piece I was missing. The overshield was just what I needed and because I didn’t have to swap loadouts mid fight from Arby to sword I didn’t have to try to recover from low health while I was in my menu. Really can’t tell you enough how grateful I am.
Managed to get the solo flawless clear. Thanks again for putting this out.
Second encounter for arc hunters: instead of using a sword, a shotgun with one-two punch and lair's handshake works great just keep a few ads to alive to refresh combination blow. Can be done with arablast or tractor cannon, or even with hot swapping them
for the warlock build i still use starfire because i can eat grenade and still use a grenade for kills whilst in heat rises. plus you get your pheonix dive back on fusion nade kill which entirely negates some need for fragments and you can customize the build even more
edit: you can also spam pheonix dive more consistently and have it up more if you use pheonix dive as you throw a nade because the fusion will get a kill after it is used up
Something I see rarely said on Bonk Titans, but when you have even x1 Roaring Flames, you can regular melee which gets bonus damage from Roaring Flames (bit less that double at x3) to get sun spots on kills and add another stack to your Roaring Flames. So you can get x3 as long as you prime it with an ability (grenade or hammer kill) to get it to x1. This is better for small enemies like Acolytes & Thralls that you can easily miss and chuck your hammer into the void, but can still one shot with a regular melee. This way you can get guaranteed sun spots and not worry about your hammer. But don't be afraid to use it on high health enemies as you deal Scorch with Roaring Flames & regular melee so after 3 or so punches they explode! Although I think I may have used the fragment for more Scorch stacks so your mileage may vary. And as always Syntho's is helpful no matter how you melee.
If you are struggling with solar Warlock and sunbracers, while Heat Rises is active, snap+Fenix dive will provide enough scorch stacks for an ignition, killing *everything* short of the ogre and the Lucent Hive and giving you Restoration x2, and if the first source of scorch is your snap, anything killed by the ignition will count as a melee kill, procing sunbracers.
So eat grenade>snap>jump>fenix dive onto an enemy and you get everything, a room clearing ignition, resto x2 and sunbracers.
Oh and for the love of God, use Leviathan's breath for the final boss, it locks her in place and prevents any teleports.
The back little rooms with water can be sit in without going into the water to worry any enemies. Also solar nade is great with roaring flames in this room.
Datto, basically the only reason I end up being able to solo dungeons
0:24 I doubt Bungie will make any changes tbh. Everyone told them when Spire released that the health pools were a bit too much, and they didn't even address the feedback let alone change anything.
Nope, health in Spire was alright on release. It's increased in Lightfall. Watch S19 solo runs, people were 2-phasing both bosses
@@dyakonov There wasn't a health increase in lightfall.
S19 had solo operative and weakened clear, and warlocks specifically did more damage than intended against Persys due to being in a well. Those mods are now gone and the well bug has since been fixed.
@@dyakonov final spire boss was bugged last year and took extra ability damage but was fixed, plus starfire was nerfed, no health increase
For Ecthar I used felwinters with the invis/finisher build. Paired with a repulser brace shotgun I was near unkillable. Damage phase was tough but I used lament to stay alive.
In the opening encounter I recommend xenophage as it 1 shots the witches
Also, after Echtar, when you're running to the last encounter, you can just tap the witches and shriekers as soon as they come up.
Got the solo flawless on this with my hunter. Not gonna lie, one of the best runs of my life. Still gonna be a Warlock main any day of the week, but this was the dungeon my Hunter earned his place.
For Ecthar, I ran Arbalest, One Two Punch Shot Gun, Liars handshake and gathering storm. the main priority is to keep the Combination Blows at level 3. Before dps, try to kill any boomer knights down by the boss spawn. They can be a big problem when trying to do dps. During dps, kill the shield knight, use arb to break shield, then gathering storm and one two punch melee combo for damage. To sustain damage, keep adds alive to reproc comblows. Bail from dps when needed. should be easy.
Used Assassins Cowl for the final boss and a double special build for max heavy drops. For Damage, I actually rocked Ascendancy. Try using something with tracking/Explosive light, but Ascendancy works just fine if you don't have anything better. When doing damage, be sure to keep some thrall alive to keep your invis proced. Run Arb to break shield, gathering storm, then use Ascendancy for dps. With the double special weapon build, you should have more than enough ammunition on the ground for the whole phase. Before you fire, jump to avoid shooting thralls/acolytes. WATCH FOR MOTHS!!! I was doing dps, didn't notice a moth flying passed, and turned my nearly finished run into a from the beginning run back.
Good Hunting, Guardians!
The new dungeon weapons are super good to use in the dungeon, specifically the GL and rocket. Restoration ritual let’s you cheese out an extra rocket on Simmumah 100% of the time since you’ll be finishing ghosts. Wave frame is just great for ad clear as usual, but unrelenting saved me more times than I can count
Some tips from a solar Titan:
Synthoceps let you kill the Hive Guardians on Simmumah in 2 or 3 hammers, making the Wizard and Acolyte a joke. The Knight can still one-shot you with the shield throws, you can wait out their super or use your own.
Sleeper Simulant is a good alternative for Leviathan's Breath, if you do not have the catalyst for Levy but do for Sleeper. If you were farming Kalli, you might have done that like me. Xenophage is good too.
Healing grenade and your barricade can help you collect the Deepsight buff easily. Wall off the boss or drop a healing grenade before collecting it.
Prioritize always being in a sunspot during DPS. A bunch of Thrall spawn before DPS, keep them around until you start DPS. Kill the first one, with a hammer, the rest will die to the sunspot very quickly.
Is there a better way to proc hammer on console since you cant change the charged melee to trigger as easy as on m and K?
@@S7ayMelochange your bindings so Charged melee and uncharged melee are set to the same button. This prioritizes the Charged melee even when IP close to an enemy.
@@S7ayMeloI bind it to my finisher button. Recommended only if you do overshield finisher.
For rockets I would highly recommend royal entry with field preb and clown cartridge, it does do 20% less damage but the build in tracking and 2 in the mag males up for it.
Yeah I recommend against doing that cause that's what I did and it took something like 10 phases to beat the boss. You're better of using a adaptive rocket with tracking if you one have which I did not.
Great guide. Always top tier. I really hope Bungie adjusts the solo boss health pools. An hour doing the same encounter is too tedious.
Arc had better healing for me personally. With spark of resistance, amped up, arc resist mods and risk runner on final boss i was invincible. Not to mention with this loadout rifts feel like wells where you cant die in them. Sunbracers restoration x2 I would get in situations where I got screwed over and couldn't get it when I needed it whereas arc has 99% up time with no effort. Plus lament on first boss came in for some clutch healing moments. Especially when damaging boss it didnt even matter as he was blinded soemtimes and my rift and lament healing me
Sacrifice loadout slots to do loadout swaps. Having to swap armor pieces on and off manually is a small time sink but can get you killed if you're in the thick of it.
If running risk runner and doing an arby swap, put riptide or some other special in your kinetic slot so you don't need to collect ammo before dmg
Swap strats on console can be tough because load times can be very unpredictable so be prepared to ditch the swap strat if its taking too long
For my solo flawless clear on Titan I used the same strat for Ecthar but for Simmumah what worked for me was Xenophage for dps and I used Synthos / Bonk + something to get non decaying armor charge for the setup to get to dps but before leaving the final Lucent Brood chamber switched to another loadout which had Actium War Rig + triple solar surge I used my super to break her shield and unloaded the Xeno on her and killed her in 6 damage cycles took me 1hr 23m for the full run
One thing for the final boss, if you break her sheild instantly (Arbalest) she won't teleport.
If you do any other damage first and then Arbalest, she WILL teleport. For the Bait and Switch people
24:52 Nice transition
If they do scale the health back (which I agree they should it not a skill test to survive another 2 phases it’s just boring) they should do something for those that did the SF with the current health like when they scale it down put out a second copy of the same SF emblem but put a gold border on the first one just a little something to congratulate people who did the extra dumb grind of 14 million boss dmg. Like if Bungie themselves say it’s too hard it would be nice to have a little acknowledgement that you beat it before they made it easier. Doesn’t matter at all just think it would be cool although I really don’t know if they will lower the health there’s already something like 13,000 people through SF and that’s pretty on level with the other dungeons after first week they may just leave it
For Bonk Titans dealing with echthar: keep up the Tractor debuff at all times during DPS, besides increasing your damage, it also suppresses him. If it wears off, and he becomes unsuppressed, he can then use his abilities to suppress you back, which can end in swift death. Also remember to keep restoration/sunspots rolling, the Cure off your hammer catches is not enough to stay alive on its own
How do i make it so when i try to throw my hammer it does regular melee
@@ScufinTime if you're on PC, that's easy, use separate bindings for "Charged Melee" and "Uncharged Melee", and DON'T use a binding for "Auto Melee". If you're on console... I have no idea, but I've heard it's weird to get working in a way that feels good because of how little buttons you have to work with.
@@thejmiester14 i play pc with controller, and i play green thumb so i guess i have to do a custom and match green thumb and change the melee?
@@ScufinTime Pretty much. You'll need to find space on your controller layout for two melee binds.
If you're build is easily capable of maintianing 3+ armor charge opt for a finisher mod to either maintain special ammo or a key ability if it's on cooldown
If you want to swap exotics on Hunter, Raiden Flux is a good option. More damage than Star Eater, great survivability and no need for orb charge up
For anyone going to new comments to talk about titans nerf, I’ve been running my head against a wall for an hour now with a strand banner of war, arbalest to get rid of shield, and a gl which gets around 2 million each time, I don’t know how much health they have but I would say a god damm lot of damage phases hope this helps
The first time me and my friend ran the dungeon, on the second encounter, after many deaths, as we were playing this at like 3 am and our brains stopped working altogether, we forgot to finish the boss... so he respawned with a little bit of hp remaining. THAT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM. We got soft-locked and no ads were spawning and we couldn't deal dmg to the boss because the main mechanic couldn't be completed. :)
Just a hidden tip here for tracking rockets. Typically your tracking rockets should have the lowest velocity you can give them.
The lower the velocity on a rocket, the better the tracking. This has been a thing since D1.
Im talking about Legendary rocket launchers here. Obviously most Exotic Rocket Launchers are special cases
Not sure if you mentioned it(sorry if you did) but briars contempt is pretty nuts here with surrounded. You can do about 90k damage if you hit 3 crits. Its pretty solid.
fun fact: eating a grenade for heat rises with "sunbracers ready" will still activate the perk, so you don't actually have to toss one first. efficiency.
for anyone unaware the lament combo he uses in this video is suboptimal, it is best to use block-light-light-heavy-light-light repeat, with at least one lucent blade on chest
He adds in text that says that
dont you need two lucent blade mods? You certainly need two to match the recharge rate bonus of the old lucent blade mod
@@sayarimamani3605 I use lament every day with one and it is fine
Solo flawlessed it on day two using solar lock with sunbracers on my second attempt. And I can't say that this dungeon is brutal, it's pretty easy, cos there are a lot of mobs to prock your sustain mechanics for every class and bosses don't really do damage, the only hard part is that this dungeon is really time consuming and you need to stay focused on mechanics for a longer than usual time.
I'd say Spire was definetly harder for me, not entire dungeon, but second boss was fucking unforgiving, literally one mistake and this giant ass wyvern will annihilate you, ruining your entire run, plus when I soloed Spire I already had my entire artifact leveled with solo operative and gl debuff, while in GotD I had like 10 perks unlocked and didn't use any of them anyway, since I played on solar.
Fully agree on your class recommendations tho, since I used warlock only cos I'm extremely confident on it, plus I absolutely hate to play hammer titan. Btw for solar lock there is much easier way to proc full time resto x2, just eat your nade, use melee and dive really fast and you'll get already extended resto x2 up to 12 seconds.
For console users I recommend a two tailed over Levi. Levi is incredibly inconsistent on 60 frames
I am not the best player, but consider myself experienced. I used arc hunter. Liars for the whole first boss, and assassin’s cowl for the second boss. And I threw in loadout swapping mid super animation to pop both boss’s shields with arblest.
Yes I punched the first boss for all of dps.
Karnstein/Glaive combo works very well with Geomag Chaos Reach
Titans you should use burning maul. It does more damage than hammers and since it it on the floor you won't miss at all
so far the hardest part for me is literally just remembering the runes in ecthals fight. it's pretty easy as solar titan still
Lament only needs 3 light swipes with 1 lucent mod (4 without) to get enough charge to do the whole combo. You do NOT need full charge for full damage on lament!
Did 9 million damage, died to moths I was sure I killed. Brutal dungeon. Brutal.
What are the best aspects and fragments to run as a warlock running Sunbracers?
PSA: If annoyed with the boss over shields, Arbalest is a one shot against them, makes it nice since it’s about a 400k barrier that you can get rid of in one hit
gyrfalcon hunter with izanagi's + palmyra was pretty good for me, use orpheus or star eater to kill the boss's shield really quick then have a solid damage buff to work with after that. udermining vortexing my feet helped a lot for killing ads/ survivability. took me like 5-6 phases but not terrible
What was your energy weapon?
@@Subsistence69 funnelweb with subsistence frenzy
I got my solo flawless done 2 days ago, 90 minutes. But maaaaan, this dungeon is a weird one, I didn't think there would be a boss that becomes tankier than persys. What the heck is this? I was honestly hoping we got a new boss that would become another Easy/Ok Artifice farm in master mode, but this is not the case. In master, this dungeon ramps up x50 and almost every hit you take in the boss room will nearly if not outright kill you. I was able to 4 phase the first boss Ecthar, and 5 phase the final boss with leviathan's breath, that bow does wonders with 3 surge mods. Linears didn't work out for me, and didn't have any tracking rockets. Levi is definitely worth it.
I did the whole briar´s setup with all those buffs but focused fury instead of surrounded. No adds won´t matter and no flynch. Still about 150 if landing triple head with all procced.
How many damage phases for the kill?
@@Jenkzyx If full optimized you can get a 4 phase, easy 5.
I took 6 cause really poor gameplay, failed everything and also 1st try no pracc. Well left her 1% hp for a 7 but that doesnt really count, was just lag...
@@Blood966 1% is still an extra damage phase. So it took you 7.
@@ShadowNova300 Well, you right
Wanted to for a solo clear, but doing it today after seeing this was just a bad call. Got to the final boss worn down from the day and getting gud at the 2nd encounter and just ran out of steam. The moth burst that can just OHKO, the long setup and low damage on the phases I did get... was just too mentally gone to keep at it. Will keep this video on hand, cause I don't really have faith Bungie is going to take another look at the health while solo.
I will say, the 1st boss was actually fairly fun once I got the hang of it.
Didn’t know you were a fellow sneakerhead. Nice.
Liar's Handshake is better on the first boss, playing the same way as a Solar Titan I found. Tractor cannon double OTP shotties. With health regen from LH and the melee ascpet, you will never die. You can also four phase the first boss. Assassin's Cowl is better on the last boss as you don't need LH for damage