How The Hummer Failed Miserably😭| Forgotten Legends Ep.4
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The Hummer H1, an SUV initially produced by AM General under the Hummer brand and eventually General Motors, was introduced in 1992 and was intended to appeal to consumers looking for a rugged, off-road vehicle. However, despite its impressive capabilities, the H1 failed to sell well due to a number of factors we explore in this video.
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Hey mate! Great content as always!! What soundtrack are you using at 2:25! You are using this soundtrack in all of your videos and I love it!
Next. Crown Victoria. And if you can, Chevy Impala/Caprice 9C1
Have you done the Chrysler ME412? Its the supercar that would've come out at the same time as the SLR McLaren, used a Mercedes engine, was built in less time, for less money, had better performance and handling than the SLR, and even cost less. Shortly, it absolutely humiliated Mercedes, so they killed it, cause they owned Chrysler at the time.
@@stuchbrosmnore8627 I been tryna tell him bro
classic case of go woke go broke ...they wanted more karen less arnold
The Hummer H1 did not fail. It's still a beast off road 25 years later. It was never designed to be a luxurious, fuel efficient vehicle. It only "fails" when it's measured against things it was never intended to be.
Right
Exactly.
Hear hear !
But, I would definitely choose to own a Pinzgauer over a HMMWV, Hummer or any other civilian variation hands down !
It failed because it didnt sell well enough, and I bet their intention was to sell a lot
@@cyjanek7818 False.
It's great that you praise the vehicle for it's incredible strengths, whereas if you discuss the vehicle with any motor hobbyist they'll usually laugh the entire vehicle off. Love it or hate it, the H1/Humvee is one of the most iconic vehicles on the planet. I'm not a huge fan of the later models but I respect where the story started. And that dirty big engine in the H1/Humvee just sounds so deep and amazing.
Motor hobbyist, soldiers who actually used them, or offroader.
There is a reason that despite the fact that you can buy military hummers cheap now the offroad community isn't buying then up.
They are absolutely 100% trash
I remember seeing this as a kid in the 90s and what sold me on its awesomeness was some footage of it crossing a massive gap no problem. It's such an icon, it's has the same rugged cool look as the Land Rover Defender and is just "cool"
Also, what gets is me is that the Hummer (H1) is fussed and criticized of being a former-military-vehicle.
Which that is a Hypocrite thing to say cause vehicles like the Mercedes G Wagen were former military vehicles , yet no one fuss and complain of those🤷
Additional comment from a former H1 hummer owner. Back in 2005, AM general reached out to it's existing customers to find out how much more they would be willing to pay for a new truck if it met all of the upcoming emissions requirements. They were upfront when they mentioned how many millions of dollars in investment would be needed to meet these requirements and with a truck that is made maybe 1,000/year the cost of the new emissions passed onto a new customer was going to be very hefty, think it's not worth it anymore. AM general didn't give up on the brand and tried to come up with other alternatives such as buying a truck without an engine and a customer could add their own, but even with that the demand wasn't great enough to do. If it weren't for GM stepping up with the duramax, the 2006 H1 Alpha would never exist. Today there are some civilian H1's that are being made for sale overseas mainly in the middle east. It's a fascinating vehicle and fun to drive. I did have a few run ins with 'eco warriors' including one person who was using a shopping cart to try and ram the truck over and over but was prevented by the rock rails. The Hummer HOPE program was amazing and many of the Hummer owners I met in those days were some incredible people with unbelievable next level life skills.
Interesting insight
And now we have a $300k electric behemoth.
Great video
Which ain't squat.....I rather the H1
People who are not into cars said the same thing about Hummer when it came out.
70k USD in 1992 adjusted for inflation is 146k USD now, so Hummer EV is much cheaper in base model than Hummer (when it came out - First edition was 110k, base model is supposed to be 80k).
Obviously prices now have markups and everything but for 70k USD in 1992 you could buy much more than inflation makes it look like
@@cyjanek7818 i think he's talking about the hybrid JLTV from Oshkosh.
@@cyjanek7818last I checked 146k is half of 300k
@@whatsomeonesaidwastaken9216 so maybe you also checked the price of electric hummer and saw that it wasn't 300k
The HMMVE was made that wide so it could drive in the tracks of the M1 Abrams.
Common myth, this isn't true. The HMMWV is much narrower than an M1 - Source: I have one in my garage. They're wide but surprisingly compact vehicles, the same length as a RAV4.
@@SmartDrug Thank you. The exaggerations are out of control
@@SmartDrug why on gods green earth would you have one?
@@tony_5156 just incase, obviously
it's wide because the drivetrain is shoved into the passenger compartment...this was caused by the rather ridiculous ground clearance and hill cresting requirements.
Never stop making these videos.
Nope😂
Intros are getting better too
One of the best 4 by 4s
@@337speedDespite its size it can only fit 4 people no wonder European and Japanese jeep makers laughed themselves to the bank even with service vehicle contracts.
Overpriced, unsafe, impractical for the streets but highly capable and very iconic the H1 is a true exotic legend.
Lamborghini LM002 + Willy's Jeep = H1
Meanwhile, we got 1000Hp cars that really don't see much top speed 🤷
The word "impractical" is thrown around too much
@stuchbrosmnore8627 that's usually due to the format the 1000 hp car may be used for, Drifting and Drag racing don't care about high top speeds. There's a reason why the factory 800 HP Dodge Demon first comes with a limiter at about 170 MPH, the super grippy and low endurance tires it comes with cannot withstand higher speeds.
Now, land speed record cars are a completely different breed.
@@DJAizakku You fail to mention cars that comes stock with over 1000hp such as the Buggattis, Koenigseggs, etc
And cars close to that power such as the Lamborghinis, Ferraris, etc
And also the 500+ Horsepower cars such as the Camaros!
The point of the matter is, is that people love to throw the word "impractical" around when it comes to any vehicle that is utilitarian yet won't fuss and complain of vehicles of high Horsepower that aren't being "used like they should"!
Go figure
@@DJAizakku But hey! It's called "freedom"🤷
Not me liking before the add stops because I know it’s gonna be good
I'm from L.A 🌴 and when the H2 came out I bought one and put 5k worth of sound system... I was ballin out of control and flossing. These SUV's drove and handled extremely well I have to say. Very comfortable ride.
LA is garbage so glad i moved completely out of CA. What a disgusting awful city. Anyone can get a truck loan and make payments. Dudes like that are a dime a dozen there lol
That makes sense since the h2 is an overpriced Tahoe.
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You need a show on comedy central niggas on crack
this guys format is nice and his explanations are great, definitely subscribing and i dont know how this guy doesnt have more!
9:50 love the dde clip
Seeing the Humvee frolicking in the mud and rain of Ukraine after all these years of struggling in the sun bleached and dusty roads of the Middle East makes my cold American heart happy.
WORTH THE WAIT
Didn't really fail at all considering it sold pretty well, was in headlines for a long time and has just been revived as an EV and has gotten decent reviews
not a hummer fan but your story telling in the RT/Hellcat video was EPIC
ooo don't let @ChrisFix see this, he loves his hummer :D
Came here to say this 😂
@@androiduberalles haha sorry I beat you to it!
I remember my dad got a video in the mail advertising the hummer, he almost bought it, he had a geo metro at the time. He’s a GM guy through and through and while on tdy he was in a jeep that flipped, I was so excited that he was going to get one. Him being ever the frugal man decided not to get one.
How insane do you have to be destroy someone's Hummer like that. Do you really care about the environment or are you just violent and crazy? Like these people throwing tomato soup on priceless paintings. Like why though? Activists never care about what they're advocating for. If they did they would be out there actually doing something instead of protesting or causing violence.
Right. Their just using b.s. such as "environmental concern" to just vent out their hate on something they can't get.
Same to the riots which brain-dead folks say are "protests".🙄😅🤣😂😅
Duramax swapped H/1 would be super awesome
Just for your information I was working at a GM dealership in 96 and an H one came in brand new from the hummer dealer down the street and it had a small block Chevy gas engine in it! It was one of those $80,000 H1❤
I’ve owned a 1, 2 and a 3 Alpha. I loved my hummers. Best truck I’ve ever owned. The H2 was my favorite. An amazing ride and I felt safe in her. Loved those trucks
If i ever get money and have my own shop i want to turn a h1 hummer into a warthog from halo
Just grab up a m998 at auction. Same vehicle for 1/6 the price
you make awesome videos man….you are really dropping knowledge here...
Fun fact you can not only still buy hummers, but hmmwv's as well and they are like 16k without the up armor, if you find a up armor kit for sale it goes for like 40k-50k
Never knew they put the 8.1 big block in the hummer h1’s
That must’ve been a rare custom built one for Arnold. I worked at a Hummer dealership and the only gas engine I ever saw was a TBI 350 in a ‘94. Talk about gutless!
A guy's dad in my school back in the day had one of these. Drove into work one day and everyone went nuts in the car park
I have a 2006 H1 Alpha 4DR-Hardtop, great off-road vehicle with the added ability of towing a trailer in soft sand and mud.
What color?
Nice, how’s she holding up?
As someone who owns an H1 a 97 pre GM hummer, the only thing that really let's it down is the 4 speed transmission, the 4l80e is a tank in its own right but diesel engines like to to have a lot of gears to keep them in their power band. I had My truck was swaped to a p400 engine and the six speed version of the allison 1000 with double overdrive in 2016 and with 38x13.5 inch tires it gets a respectable 12mpg city and 22ish on the highway if you stay right at 55.they are tanks though because the 6.5 is an IDI diesel it will run off juat about anything, used engine oil penut oil transmission fluid gasoline even, and offroad I've pulled out more stuck subrus and toyotas than I care to remember. All while knocking on the door of 300k miles in 2023.
Hummer H1 and Humvee are best looking off-roaders to this day. Very capable too. People praise g wagon and pay stupid money for it, but it has nothing on H1. It's most likely more comfortable, but comfort is for women 😜
Exactly! Thank you.
People fuss and complain on the Hummer H1/Humvees....yet no one fuss and complains on the Jeeps and Mercedes Benz G Wagens. And those were for the military first (which people fuss about the Hummer being for the military only but don't fuss about the other vehicles mentioned, that were for the military first).
And as for the G Wagen them are problematic
@@dewarkhodern9990 yeah very overated car. It's capable of roader , but no one uses G wagon for off-roading nowadays.
@@mrdato116 Yeah, like I mentioned in the comments, no one fusses on the G Wagen and such like the Hummer/H1.
Very hypocritical if you ask me.
I want to see this guy do a breakdown video on the 1993 Mclaren F1...
Yes!
And the Commendatori 112i
Ev1. Do the EV1 next please
I've watched every video that this channel has, and I really enjoy every second. 👊😎🏎
Arguably one of the most badass looking trucks
Nothing in the video says it "failed miserably" though. It had a good run, all things considered.
Anyway, he should do a followup with the new electric version.
Driving soft top HMMWVs (6.5turbo variant)on the autobahn at high speeds when I was stationed in Germany feels like piloting a plane thats falling apart and out of the sky.
always a good day when 337 uploads
Instant like on your content, ever !👊🏻I'm a HUGE fan of your channel,greetings from Brazi.
This vid is brilliant. Brought back some memories.
They are expensive, but many who can afford it still own and drive them. ❤
Hummers and Excursions.....the good old days.
I still want a H2 Truck version 😫
" Right tool for the wrong job " nice quote 😁
Your video production, timing & narrator are great! I did kitchen stuff just listening to your Busa video! 👍Great stuff!
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I’m so glad I still drive my H-1 hummer, the experience is funny cuz of ppls reaction
The hummer ended in 2006, but the HMMWV carried on. Its slowly being replaced by the Oshkosh jltv, but AM General will probably be building humvees for a few more years yet.
Who are you and how do you know this lmao
@@brandonsimpson1617 Clearly there's sources on that????
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I owed 2 Hummers and loved them. The last one was a H3 alpha with a modified LS and modified automatic transmission. It was fantastic. I wish I still had it. However, moving to Thailand forced its sale
I see resto-modded H-1s occasionally, with a PIMPED out Duramax blowing obscene clouds of pure carbon. They are utterly glorious in this configuration!
damn i sure hope you never experience a car actually blowing out stuff like that. sounds pretty unhealthy
@brinki Oohhh but I have.
97.3 out of 100 plants that utilize photosynthesis recommend uppity carbon blowing diesels over EVs!
@@fobbitoperator3620 if you put a plant in a cloud of pure carbon, it would do exactly the same thing a human, or any organic matter would in that situation. That is combust immediately. Photosynthesis kinda can't do anything with pure carbon.
I highly doubt that you ever experienced that, considering steel and almost all other metals melt way before carbon does sublimation.
@@brinkipinki HHhhhmmmmm, you've been partying with Al Gore again, haven't you brinki??
tsk tsk...
@@fobbitoperator3620 I don't think you need some weird american oligarch fpr you to know what carbon is, lol
I have one and you taught me something 😂
In short, that military industrial complex be hittin sometimes
When is foxbody video coming ???
Never, it’s a slow car unless you mod the shit out of it
@caboose22320 🤣🤣 in a way it is true but it probably is one of the most iconic drag cars
When you add 4 ?'s
@@caboose22320 The MK4 A80 Supra was slow stock. But y'all don't fuss on that!
Contracts usually go to the cheapest bidder. Military grade is nomenclature for a POS.
Amazing video very informative 10/10
Powertrain failure was eminent. We had mandatory engine swaps
Bro I am only like 1:30 in this video smacks 10/10 so far
dude seriously thanks for all these awesome videos
Excellent video! I do wish you had mentioned the new GMC Hummer EV at the end, because it's absolutely ridiculous 🔥
My favorite vehicle!! I still hope to buy one someday!! Especially from predator hummer !!
What funny is that Toyota still makes the 70 series for 30 years till today you can get a 70 series just with airbags and a a 4.5 turbo V8 diesel brand new
Put a Duramax diesel Allison transmission combination in an H1 and you have the the Hummer that was always meant to be.
This is the type of content I’ve been missing from donut media, thanks for filling that gap lmao
I drove one. NO PROBLEMS. good for what it was.
...donknow it failed at sales- but it was /is still one of the best militaryvehicles/ offroaders out there....!!
Nice video buddy thanks for this 🤜💥🤛
Cash Money had those on Mono blocks... hummers on choppaz!!!
Engine suggestions for videos: EA888, VQ, EJ
My friend had a Hummer H1 its was so badazz! Still today you see one and turn your head a new Ford Bronco not so much!
Detroit v8 from 1999 model h1 is worst than the 2.8L 200hp MWM engine of the chevy S10 '-' incrible! Nice Video!
One thing you got wrong.
The super wide body and wheels is not due to the transmission and torque multiplier.
It's designed to fit in the tread of other track vehicles like tank and APC. It's designed to be that wide.
That's a myth lol
Your videos are great!
the civilian version was more akin of a niche product than a typical civilian offroader, it wasn't made to be a best seller outside of the military market
427 Cobra next! & super snake history
The price difference with the wilis is much worth every way.
Would love to have one. But all us trucks are crazy expensive to buy in Europe! A RAM 2500 is about 250% more expensive in Europe compared to the US. The government has also but another limit...any cars this have has to be operated with a higher class licence..that would put you about 5-10 grand out of pocket.
Spent many a hot, sweaty day inside a HMMWV in Iraq. In spite of how wide they are, the interior afforded very little passenger comfort. Once they started fitting the FRAG (armor) kits onto the chassis, the "performance" suffered even more. I have a GMC C3500 with that same 6.5 Diesel that I built to be a "high performance" (LOL) and it's still anemic.
“High performance” what is that, 200 hp and 250 torque lol
@@Coolturtledudehellyeah Right? LOL Probly 250 hp, 400 Tq and that's being optimistic.
@@Swervin309 wow, and how much did it cost to build? I’m thinking about building out an idi, which I’d rather have over one of those 6.5 v8s
@@Coolturtledudehellyeah Grand total, with parts and machine shop work was about $9K.
Bored 0.030", studded and girtled the main bearings, ported/port matched heads, intake/exhaust manifolds, "Diamond" precups, head studs, MLS head gasket, (which dropped the compression ratio from 21.3 to 18.05) 2 1/2" crossover pipe, ported the turbo turbine housing, S&S diesel "performance" cam, full roller valve train, larger intake plenum, 3" down pipe to 4" exhaust, upgraded lift pump, Fluidampr harmonic balancer, 7 blade fan and fan clutch from an 01 Duramax, high output water pump, and Kennedy Diesel "Maximum Effort" chip, and marine injectors. I also fabbed a crossover coolant pipe between the rear of the heads, as the rear two cylinders run hotter.
It runs great. It doesn't come close to competing with modern diesels, but it does what I need.
@@Swervin309 cool! That sounds like a cool build, I always love seeing older engines being built instead of swaps!
Hummer being the icon vehicle of America should have been exempt from any emissions because nothing says America quite like a Hummer
6:17 did he say dismal braking performance? Those inboard calipers stop on a dime! They are great brakes!
I still want one of those even though they are completely impractical.
"impractical" is used too much.
I don't see folks usin' that word and talkin' down and such on the Benz G Wagens which are overrated
ive worked on the H2/H3..... and they are CHEAPLY built
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even cheaper than the GMs at the time (which, sure, were plastic fantastics.... but that made them quick, easy, and cheap to fix/work on)
it was a REAL "parts pin mashup"
I used to not care for them. Now I want a H1
Show me a hellaflush, aired-out, stanced and cambered HMMWV with twin Hellcat engines, all built and set up for drift.
Go!
Any car that burns through that much fuel is not even close to being a consumer vehicle
I think I found my new garage queen
This vehicle is so American I imagine a few bald eagles soaring above and the smell cheeseburgers to go with the gunpowder!
It was the right tool for the right job. But failed at the wrong jobs. .... compared to what we have now it was cheap.
The end made me miss saturn and Pontiac lol
My cousin has a military Humvee it was his daily driver for a while
You can still buy a military truck for the road. See Razvani.
That's a modified Jeep Wrangler JK, not a military vehicle
@@jackbower8671 Yep
Just make it a hybrid haha and put a 9 speed auto in it with last 4 gears used for overdrive
Would love to see the mpg then
👍
I like your videos, never change
Can you do a video on the history of the Duramax, I heard that it has it's origins from when Detriot Diesel was making small Diesel V8s for C and K series pickups
Duramax= Isuzu
@@schizy Before GMC/Chevy had Duramax, they had the V8 6.2 liter Detroit Diesel and V8 6.5 Detroit Diesel engines.
There were/are not Powerstrokes(which there is talks that the V8 Powerstrokes got it's influence from those engines), however their decent and get better fuel mileage which those engines were built mainly to get better fuel mileage. Their are short of like a gas powered version of the V8 305 and 350 but in diesel form
The 6.2 and especially the 6.5 had very weak crankshafts. You can identify what transmission it was in front of by where the crank broke. Automatic trucks would always break behind the 1/2 journals, (harmonic balancer issues) manual transmission trucks broke in front of the 7/8 journals. The last gen 6.5 for Hummer use corrected these issues with a forged crankshaft and a full main bearing support that bolted to the block with the main bearing caps integrated into it. $10 grand upgrade. A little too pricey for a average Joe and a 20 year old truck.
This is why they thankfully got dmax swapped
Tbh if I was older and had money I would buy a h1 and swap it with a engine that makes more power
😵Well we know they wasn't aiming for gas mileage efficiency
Yeah. I don't see anyone fussed of other utilitarian-type vehicles that don't have better fuel mileage; G Wagen from Mercedes, and Jeeps, etc
@@rudgerscumberland9837 right.....