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Just visited both Portland and Clark Country to see where my wife and I (early 30s) might move next year. After spending so much time doing research, we were set that we wanted to live in Vancouver and just needed to take a trip to check the best neighborhoods for us. So we visited both sides of the river this past weekend and I have to say I was so surprised by the results. Camas/Washougal/Fishermans were so suburban, old, and boring during our visit. There's just nothing to do and not enough places to explore commercially. DT Vancouver is cool and the waterfront will be awesome when it's finished, but walking around on the weekend and it still felt pretty quiet everywhere we went. We then went across and visited Portland, expecting the dirty, political, violent, unhoused armageddon that YT and the news had painted. Wow how surprised we were. It's such a beautiful and active city! AMAZING food and bars everywhere, tons of young people, cute lush neighborhoods, homes that have WAY more charm and character than the Clark C side. Yes, there is homeless, but it was wayyyy less than what we expected, mostly just cornered off to some areas, and in general, even DT felt safe to walk around in! We truly thought we'd feel the opposite on all these issues and fully expected to be choosing Vancouver over Portland, but at the end of the day, Portland is a better fit for us. I don't think you are wrong in your opinions Hannah, just wanted to politely share an opposite view point from your video and most of the comments here. Cheers all.
Thank you for sharing your opinion on the matter! As I mentioned, there are 1M+ people living in tri counties - different strokes for different folks! Godspeed
I agree with Redeye, quiet is good. My wife and I feel safe; so much that we can take our small dog out at midnight for a walk. I think we prefer boring and safe over the opposite. On top of that, I think Portland is not that bad of a drive from Vancouver for those evening/weekend outings.. Unless you're doing it daily then I understand needing to live closer. I wish you luck on your home search and hope you find a place that suits your needs.
I was just up there to see if I could retire there. Vancouver side doesn’t have as much homeless and all, but I couldn’t help by think eventually the problem will migrate across the river.
@@LivingInVancouverCamasWash Not as much anymore. Thirty years ago that was true, but now Vancouver is reflecting its neighbor to the south. Just recently I had family move out of Vancouver because things have gotten so bad.
Not only State income tax, but we also have Portland Arts Tax, Multnomah County Preschool Tax, Metro Supportive housing services tax, which could add another 2.5% income tax; all these taxes do not benefit you nor provide you with any return in any way if you're not a parent (nor planning to be one), or if you're not on the verge of homelessness. Another thing I hate in Portland is the noise: loud garbage trucks run at 2am to 4am, the trains blowing horns as there is no quiet hours enforced anywhere. It is a nightmare if you're a light sleeper.
Big problem with Vancouver is no music scene for the kids. That was my biggest gripe being from there. Any show you want to go to will be in Portland. Don't care for corporate music. If you are young and want to go to a bar/all ages club, hang out, be around/meet similar people or just meet other people in general you are out of luck. There were 2 bars near where I lived, only bar bands played there, not anything exciting, no bands to follow/no flyers on the street, no one walking around in cool clothes/band shirts, etc. In Portland you go to a show, go somewhere after/grab pizza down the street, meet other people, go somewhere else, walk home at 1 AM, just have fun and live life.
Was there on March 4th for a concert. was staying at the Marriott city center. Went to the food trucks, and people were smoking pills EVERYWHERE, the smoke was even going into the carts where people were trying to run their businesses, and everyone looked noticeably scared. No cops anywhere. After the concert, I decided to door dash so I am standing at the entrance to the Marriot, literally 2 feet from the badge in, and as I am watching a man have a mental health crisis in the middle of the road, two dudes cut across the street coming directly at me at an angle and got within about 10 feet before I realized I was about to be robbed literally in front of the lobby of the hotel. I badged in so damn fast, they ran off. I have lived in Oregon my whole life, even Portland for a minute, but you have to be either suicidal or a certified moron to want to move there, downtown should be condemned, it is horrible.
I remember visiting in 2018 and loved downtown. Was considering buying a condo. Glad I didn’t. A friend of mine sold hers and moved out. Wow! I remember walking around, shopping and dining. It doesn’t look the same.
Go back further yet, say 2010, it was a really nice place in comparison. Go back further yet, it was actually some place I would live. But this has been in the works for the past 20-30 years.
When large parts of your city look and smell like a poorly maintained mens room, you have to admit you have problems. When empty cartridge cases outnumber cigarette butts, you might have a problem.
I moved to Seattle after years in CA. On my way up the coast, I stopped for two days in downtown Portland because I had a wonderful Portland experience years ago. Portland has such a cool old city vibe when driving in from the freeway. I checked into my hotel and decided to walk around the city and head to the park with my dog. Thank God I have a German Shepherd! I. WAS. SHOCKED. by all the homeless on drugs in the park. Defacating in the park and on the sidewalks. I walked by a groups of homeless smoking crack on the sidewalk in broad daylight. I do NOT feel safe and was shocked by the crime taking place day and night. I told all my friends that Portland is a cool older city but with rampant homelessness and drugs and that I would never come to Portland ever again. While I am considering retiring in Vancouver, my fear is Portland issues will migrate to Vancouver and ruin property values and the sanctity of Vancouver. Thoughts?
No one feels safe in Portland anymore, unfortunately. Vancouver /Clark County is very culturally different. Portland's very radical political climate and lack of leadership has brought them the trouble, in most people's opinions. Vancouver is VERY different, with a good 50/50 political mix (and people get along regardless), family values, and a strong community. I doubt we will ever see the issues the Portland has, to the same degree
I’ve been subscribed to this channel for 2 years now. I visited Vancouver, WA in July 2021 because my wife and I would like to move there. Hopefully a few more years and we can.
I was born and raised in Portland. I left Portland in 2003, and the U. S. in 2017. My parents still live in the Portland area and have stopped going downtown all together. I visit the U.S. once or twice a year, and each time it looks worse than the time before.
As a Californian paying twice the price, I'd gladly move to Portland. You basically just summed up Oakland, which is the largest city closest to me. Eastbay is not much different from what you said; however shoplifting up to $1000 is legal (prop 47). I even heard you can open carry so that would be handy for me and my gun owner friends.
Just please don't vote the way californians vote, ie, democrat! Democrats are a virus and have destroyed CA, OR and WA. Along with the rest of the country.
@@LivingInVancouverCamasWash Not exactly legal, but just a misdemeanor where you are issued a ticket and promise to show up in court (they usually never show up). So the criminal can continue to do more robberies the same day. The idiot CA voters approved this.
So sad... Portland was a clean and well organized city pre-2000 when I visited relatives annually. It was actually the easiest major city to get around in - best roads and directions I remember. 50/50 Blue/ Red is always a better environment - people aren't as biased. I always forgot about not being able to pump your own gas - NJ is the same.
Not being able to pump your own gas is a hilarious concept to me. As a business owner, I am always looking at how to provide value, conserve our resources, and do the things that matter, not create artificial min wage jobs 🤦♀️lol!
Well, thank you for posting this. I think you squashed my desire to move to Portland. I was visiting friends that moved there from TX then on to Battle Ground within a year or so. That was from 1993-1997 ('97 last time there), I wanted to move there So Bad, I LOVED IT, but had reservations to leave all my family/friends again (airline employee who moved around for a bit) and the move would've been out of pocket too since the carrier I worked for was already operating. I've been tossing the idea again for the last 3 yrs; parents/grandparents gone now. I guess time has changed things there, I didn't see anything of what you described. It's so disheartening to hear.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, it is indeed sad and disheartening to hear of the recklessness on the other side of the river. Battle Ground is much different than Portland proper. Godspeed!
The people who moved in from other states and worked there way into city council and changed the laws are what has weakened the city don't blame the original Oregonians we did not call it keep portland weird it was called that from people who moved in we called it the city of roses maybe people could stay in their own states
I’m a Portland native. I hate the saying, “keep Portland weird.” It’s stupid propaganda from out of state people who moved here and are capitalizing off of our once beautiful city. It’s now ruined. They’re tearing down beautiful old homes & building condos and apartments at a fast pace. They don’t put in adequate parking in these buildings, so there’s rows of cars down city blocks & no where to park. I would never park in a parking garage anymore-too many break ins. The out of state people have ruined it. I feel sad every day.
I used to drive for Uber during the riots and almost didnt make it home one night because the protesters blocked the freeway bridges. Walking deliveries downtown and having to pass police in riot gear all staring at me suspiciously. I got out and now only drive in Vancouver. Portland scares me even more now. Too many himeless on drugs that make them get violent and break everything. Drivers held up by a guy with a blow torch. Sime man on fentynal chewing a MAX passengee's face off. Homeless squatters in abandoned houses setting fires that spread to their neighbors. Businesses moving out in droves because they cant keep up with the cost of constant window repairs and stealing. And Walmart closing down. Ill stay on the Washington side of the river, thank you.
Hi Jim, thanks for commenting and watching. Feel free to email me more about your situation hannah@dubynerealtygroup.com and I could let you know. It would depend a lot on what kind of home you want/need, income, and down payment :) no judgement here, we do help people & families for sometimes years to make a plan to afford so don't lose hope!
Everywhere you go is expensive. We checked out Tennessee and it’s not even cheaper there anymore! It wasn’t worth the move and decided to stay in WA. Crazy world we live on after Covid! It changed the real estate market forever.
@@nutritioncoachjo I for sure agree that Covid changed the real estate market forver. I doubt we will get back to 30-45 days on market being normal, people are just more urgent now and want to move faster
Let's try these phoenix areas: 57 av Clarendon, 59 Ave Indian School, 51 Ave McDowell, 22nd av & indian school rd 22nd av & mcdowell rd 11th av & indian school rd 11th av & mcdowell rd
Those are all bad areas. Phoenix proper is just one giant ghetto. I grew up in a rough neighborhood near 35th Ave. and McDowell. That was in the 80's. A lot of bad folks lived in that neighborhood. It hasn't really improved all that much today. On top of that there were two businesses that were doing some very illegal stuff in that neighborhood. One was some kind of a trucking facility. Apparently they were doing illegal chemical disposal. One of those disposals involved releasing chemicals into the air. I lived in a house close by and it was loud when they were doing it. Next to them was a propane company that had an illegal leach pit sitting in the ground behind their building. There was some kind of a chemical sitting in it. The chemical was in contact with the dirt. These two businesses were shut down in 1986. The place is now a big vacant lot that nobody wants because the soil is contaminated. I heard that 1 mile to the west at 43rd Ave. was even worse due to gangs roaming the area. The best places to live in the Phoenix area is outside of Phoenix itself.
It’s great that you can live and work in Vancouver but most people who live in Vancouver have to travel to Portland. But since you don’t live in Portland you can’t judge it. You are so 4:54 wrong on the political on the political. But Vancouver is so spreed out and you have to drive everywhere.
The latest numbers show that about 30% of people in Vancouver commute to the Oregon side for work. I can have an opinion on an area without personally living in it :) I think there's a typo in your comment because I'm not sure what you are trying to say about politics. And yes you are correct, Vancouver is best set up to use a car and drive most places!
I traveled the country for a little while before covid usually ending up with hippie communes or hitchhikers id pick up along the way and the one place we would never stop is Portland 😂
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Any state that forbids you from pumping your own gas is basically declaring it has failed to properly govern and doesn’t respect your rights.
😲😬 right?! They actually changed the law though this past year, so that's a start. Long time Oregonians were so mad!
Just visited both Portland and Clark Country to see where my wife and I (early 30s) might move next year. After spending so much time doing research, we were set that we wanted to live in Vancouver and just needed to take a trip to check the best neighborhoods for us. So we visited both sides of the river this past weekend and I have to say I was so surprised by the results. Camas/Washougal/Fishermans were so suburban, old, and boring during our visit. There's just nothing to do and not enough places to explore commercially. DT Vancouver is cool and the waterfront will be awesome when it's finished, but walking around on the weekend and it still felt pretty quiet everywhere we went.
We then went across and visited Portland, expecting the dirty, political, violent, unhoused armageddon that YT and the news had painted. Wow how surprised we were. It's such a beautiful and active city! AMAZING food and bars everywhere, tons of young people, cute lush neighborhoods, homes that have WAY more charm and character than the Clark C side. Yes, there is homeless, but it was wayyyy less than what we expected, mostly just cornered off to some areas, and in general, even DT felt safe to walk around in! We truly thought we'd feel the opposite on all these issues and fully expected to be choosing Vancouver over Portland, but at the end of the day, Portland is a better fit for us. I don't think you are wrong in your opinions Hannah, just wanted to politely share an opposite view point from your video and most of the comments here. Cheers all.
Thank you for sharing your opinion on the matter! As I mentioned, there are 1M+ people living in tri counties - different strokes for different folks! Godspeed
Quiet is good (no gun fire / ambulance sirens, etc.)
I agree with Redeye, quiet is good. My wife and I feel safe; so much that we can take our small dog out at midnight for a walk. I think we prefer boring and safe over the opposite.
On top of that, I think Portland is not that bad of a drive from Vancouver for those evening/weekend outings.. Unless you're doing it daily then I understand needing to live closer.
I wish you luck on your home search and hope you find a place that suits your needs.
@@RecklessComrade I am glad to hear you feel safe, that is a big goal for all communities! What area of town do you live in?
@@LivingInVancouverCamasWash Orchards, near Fourth Plain Blvd!
I was just up there to see if I could retire there. Vancouver side doesn’t have as much homeless and all, but I couldn’t help by think eventually the problem will migrate across the river.
I sure hope not! We are culturally very different places and I would hope our community would take a stand
@@LivingInVancouverCamasWash Not as much anymore. Thirty years ago that was true, but now Vancouver is reflecting its neighbor to the south. Just recently I had family move out of Vancouver because things have gotten so bad.
it already started, had our first RV street parking just at the end of our driveway last week
Not only State income tax, but we also have Portland Arts Tax, Multnomah County Preschool Tax, Metro Supportive housing services tax, which could add another 2.5% income tax; all these taxes do not benefit you nor provide you with any return in any way if you're not a parent (nor planning to be one), or if you're not on the verge of homelessness.
Another thing I hate in Portland is the noise: loud garbage trucks run at 2am to 4am, the trains blowing horns as there is no quiet hours enforced anywhere. It is a nightmare if you're a light sleeper.
Thank you for commenting, I was not aware of some of these taxes. You are welcome to come to the other side of the river 😜
Big problem with Vancouver is no music scene for the kids. That was my biggest gripe being from there. Any show you want to go to will be in Portland. Don't care for corporate music. If you are young and want to go to a bar/all ages club, hang out, be around/meet similar people or just meet other people in general you are out of luck. There were 2 bars near where I lived, only bar bands played there, not anything exciting, no bands to follow/no flyers on the street, no one walking around in cool clothes/band shirts, etc. In Portland you go to a show, go somewhere after/grab pizza down the street, meet other people, go somewhere else, walk home at 1 AM, just have fun and live life.
Bars and food? Move to New York. Vancouver doesn't need any more people.
@@toad4ever103 More people? Vancouver was so quiet and sleepy when I visited. Felt like nobody even lived there
Was there on March 4th for a concert. was staying at the Marriott city center. Went to the food trucks, and people were smoking pills EVERYWHERE, the smoke was even going into the carts where people were trying to run their businesses, and everyone looked noticeably scared. No cops anywhere. After the concert, I decided to door dash so I am standing at the entrance to the Marriot, literally 2 feet from the badge in, and as I am watching a man have a mental health crisis in the middle of the road, two dudes cut across the street coming directly at me at an angle and got within about 10 feet before I realized I was about to be robbed literally in front of the lobby of the hotel. I badged in so damn fast, they ran off. I have lived in Oregon my whole life, even Portland for a minute, but you have to be either suicidal or a certified moron to want to move there, downtown should be condemned, it is horrible.
I'm so sorry to hear about this terrible experience....wow!
I remember visiting in 2018 and loved downtown. Was considering buying a condo. Glad I didn’t. A friend of mine sold hers and moved out. Wow! I remember walking around, shopping and dining. It doesn’t look the same.
Sorry to hear that! Come to the better side of the river in Vancouver :)
Go back further yet, say 2010, it was a really nice place in comparison. Go back further yet, it was actually some place I would live. But this has been in the works for the past 20-30 years.
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When large parts of your city look and smell like a poorly maintained mens room, you have to admit you have problems. When empty cartridge cases outnumber cigarette butts, you might have a problem.
I moved to Seattle after years in CA. On my way up the coast, I stopped for two days in downtown Portland because I had a wonderful Portland experience years ago. Portland has such a cool old city vibe when driving in from the freeway. I checked into my hotel and decided to walk around the city and head to the park with my dog. Thank God I have a German Shepherd! I. WAS. SHOCKED. by all the homeless on drugs in the park. Defacating in the park and on the sidewalks. I walked by a groups of homeless smoking crack on the sidewalk in broad daylight. I do NOT feel safe and was shocked by the crime taking place day and night. I told all my friends that Portland is a cool older city but with rampant homelessness and drugs and that I would never come to Portland ever again. While I am considering retiring in Vancouver, my fear is Portland issues will migrate to Vancouver and ruin property values and the sanctity of Vancouver. Thoughts?
No one feels safe in Portland anymore, unfortunately. Vancouver /Clark County is very culturally different. Portland's very radical political climate and lack of leadership has brought them the trouble, in most people's opinions.
Vancouver is VERY different, with a good 50/50 political mix (and people get along regardless), family values, and a strong community. I doubt we will ever see the issues the Portland has, to the same degree
I’ve been subscribed to this channel for 2 years now. I visited Vancouver, WA in July 2021 because my wife and I would like to move there. Hopefully a few more years and we can.
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@@LivingInVancouverCamasWash Belgium, Wisconsin. North of Milwaukee County along Lake Michigan last town before Sheboygan County
The entire state is worth leaving, I did
cool, Bob! What state did you move to and how do you like it?
#metoo. Oregon was ruined by Californians
Yes. You’re right. They ruined California & now they’ve come to Oregon to destroy it here, too. Next, Idaho & Texas.
I was born and raised in Portland. I left Portland in 2003, and the U. S. in 2017. My parents still live in the Portland area and have stopped going downtown all together. I visit the U.S. once or twice a year, and each time it looks worse than the time before.
I am sorry to hear it. I agree with your sentiment about Portland. Sadly, not going in the right direction.
As a Californian paying twice the price, I'd gladly move to Portland. You basically just summed up Oakland, which is the largest city closest to me. Eastbay is not much different from what you said; however shoplifting up to $1000 is legal (prop 47). I even heard you can open carry so that would be handy for me and my gun owner friends.
Shoplifting up to $1000 is legal.....how? I have never heard of this. That sounds asinine.
Just please don't vote the way californians vote, ie, democrat! Democrats are a virus and have destroyed CA, OR and WA. Along with the rest of the country.
@@LivingInVancouverCamasWash Not exactly legal, but just a misdemeanor where you are issued a ticket and promise to show up in court (they usually never show up). So the criminal can continue to do more robberies the same day. The idiot CA voters approved this.
We don't need people with guns here.
So sad... Portland was a clean and well organized city pre-2000 when I visited relatives annually. It was actually the easiest major city to get around in - best roads and directions I remember. 50/50 Blue/ Red is always a better environment - people aren't as biased. I always forgot about not being able to pump your own gas - NJ is the same.
Not being able to pump your own gas is a hilarious concept to me. As a business owner, I am always looking at how to provide value, conserve our resources, and do the things that matter, not create artificial min wage jobs 🤦♀️lol!
Well, thank you for posting this. I think you squashed my desire to move to Portland. I was visiting friends that moved there from TX then on to Battle Ground within a year or so. That was from 1993-1997 ('97 last time there), I wanted to move there So Bad, I LOVED IT, but had reservations to leave all my family/friends again (airline employee who moved around for a bit) and the move would've been out of pocket too since the carrier I worked for was already operating. I've been tossing the idea again for the last 3 yrs; parents/grandparents gone now. I guess time has changed things there, I didn't see anything of what you described. It's so disheartening to hear.
Thanks for watching and commenting. Yes, it is indeed sad and disheartening to hear of the recklessness on the other side of the river. Battle Ground is much different than Portland proper. Godspeed!
Thank you. We plan to move to Vancouver from Seattle area. I’ll be doing business in Portland but definitely want to stay in WA.
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The people who moved in from other states and worked there way into city council and changed the laws are what has weakened the city don't blame the original Oregonians we did not call it keep portland weird it was called that from people who moved in we called it the city of roses maybe people could stay in their own states
I’m a Portland native. I hate the saying, “keep Portland weird.” It’s stupid propaganda from out of state people who moved here and are capitalizing off of our once beautiful city. It’s now ruined. They’re tearing down beautiful old homes & building condos and apartments at a fast pace. They don’t put in adequate parking in these buildings, so there’s rows of cars down city blocks & no where to park. I would never park in a parking garage anymore-too many break ins. The out of state people have ruined it. I feel sad every day.
I used to drive for Uber during the riots and almost didnt make it home one night because the protesters blocked the freeway bridges. Walking deliveries downtown and having to pass police in riot gear all staring at me suspiciously. I got out and now only drive in Vancouver. Portland scares me even more now. Too many himeless on drugs that make them get violent and break everything. Drivers held up by a guy with a blow torch. Sime man on fentynal chewing a MAX passengee's face off. Homeless squatters in abandoned houses setting fires that spread to their neighbors. Businesses moving out in droves because they cant keep up with the cost of constant window repairs and stealing. And Walmart closing down. Ill stay on the Washington side of the river, thank you.
Thank you for sharing your opinion on the matter. I too enjoy the Wa side.
If I lived in Portland, I would be canceled by the end of the week. Lol
You all exaggerated too much. Portland is a big city. The problem isn't that it's "dirty" but most people can't afford to live there.
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Clark County looks amazing but i doubt we could afford it
Hi Jim, thanks for commenting and watching. Feel free to email me more about your situation hannah@dubynerealtygroup.com and I could let you know. It would depend a lot on what kind of home you want/need, income, and down payment :) no judgement here, we do help people & families for sometimes years to make a plan to afford so don't lose hope!
Everywhere you go is expensive. We checked out Tennessee and it’s not even cheaper there anymore! It wasn’t worth the move and decided to stay in WA. Crazy world we live on after Covid! It changed the real estate market forever.
@@nutritioncoachjo yep. At least in WA you get good weather and natural beauty for that premium price.
@@nutritioncoachjo that’s true, I find that many people are finding that out about other hot spots such as Texas and Florida, too
@@nutritioncoachjo I for sure agree that Covid changed the real estate market forver. I doubt we will get back to 30-45 days on market being normal, people are just more urgent now and want to move faster
Let's try these phoenix areas:
57 av Clarendon, 59 Ave Indian School, 51 Ave McDowell, 22nd av & indian school rd
22nd av & mcdowell rd
11th av & indian school rd
11th av & mcdowell rd
Those are all bad areas. Phoenix proper is just one giant ghetto. I grew up in a rough neighborhood near 35th Ave. and McDowell. That was in the 80's. A lot of bad folks lived in that neighborhood. It hasn't really improved all that much today. On top of that there were two businesses that were doing some very illegal stuff in that neighborhood. One was some kind of a trucking facility. Apparently they were doing illegal chemical disposal. One of those disposals involved releasing chemicals into the air. I lived in a house close by and it was loud when they were doing it. Next to them was a propane company that had an illegal leach pit sitting in the ground behind their building. There was some kind of a chemical sitting in it. The chemical was in contact with the dirt. These two businesses were shut down in 1986. The place is now a big vacant lot that nobody wants because the soil is contaminated. I heard that 1 mile to the west at 43rd Ave. was even worse due to gangs roaming the area. The best places to live in the Phoenix area is outside of Phoenix itself.
Lmaooo Vancouver is the same way. Lmaoo
Vancouver and Portland are truly very different places, but thank you for commenting and watching
It’s great that you can live and work in Vancouver but most people who live in Vancouver have to travel to Portland. But since you don’t live in Portland you can’t judge it. You are so 4:54 wrong on the political on the political. But Vancouver is so spreed out and you have to drive everywhere.
The latest numbers show that about 30% of people in Vancouver commute to the Oregon side for work. I can have an opinion on an area without personally living in it :) I think there's a typo in your comment because I'm not sure what you are trying to say about politics.
And yes you are correct, Vancouver is best set up to use a car and drive most places!
Elitist! 😂
I traveled the country for a little while before covid usually ending up with hippie communes or hitchhikers id pick up along the way and the one place we would never stop is Portland 😂
Thank you for sharing
More to Phoenix Arizona or other Bluered2211 zones which is where there are no problems like this
Too brown and too hot but to each his own.
The Cascadia subduction zone is another.
Great video on Portland, very accurate.
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I live in Astoria and there are liberals would love to turn this town into Portland.
Portland is amazing. You can do what ever you want. The police don’t do anything😂
lol
Blame Liberals literally.
Keep drinking the fox news koolaid
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