Friend of mine during his national service in the Guards Battalion in Austria swapped the barrel and front assembly of his drill Stg 58 (FAL) into his live fire one. The drill one had probably been dropped a thousand times, it reliably shot into the target of the guy to left of him.😂😂😂
One time Mike, I was chanting to myself "Hold one and a half mil Right, one and a half mil Right" over and over. Buzzer sounds, I hold one a half Left for every shot....
It's so effing easy to do, isn't it? Back in my target rifle days, "I lost a point cos I adjusted the wrong way for wind" was not uncommon (and in that world if you're not shooting a full score you're not sparking unless the wind conditions are atrocious).
Just did my very first Feldschiessen Training today with my K11. The last time, I have shot a rifle was some twenty years ago with a Ruger Mini 14. I scored 32 points, which made me quite happy. The recoil of the K11 is quite a thing in comparison. Anyhow, I am super stoked.😊
I enjoyed the video Bloke, with the scoring screen incremental adjustments to sights is a huge advantage which you used well, and an excellent score for 300m.
Walther still uses "bei R" and "bei L" adjustments on their olympic target pistols like the SSP. It is kind of confusing when you use other pistol sights most of the time.
I recently borrowed a rifle from a friend where the elevation dial was somehow the reverse of what I'm used to (and markings unclear), knew I had to dial down because the rifle had been used for a target downrange... and ended up dialing (very) high and hitting the dirt even further downrange 🤦♂ Thankfully it wasn't for a competition shoot, but everyone sure had a good laugh when they realized I had dialed that far in the wrong direction.
I think every competitive shooter has done this. It’s on these days when the top shooters swear loudly mid-match, the chronically mid-place shooters know they are in the running once again to win one.
I remain immensely jealous of the shooting culture and access to live fire and decent ranges in Switzerland. Kind of wish the govt here in Taiwan would pull their finger out and copy the same model, all the talk of raising civilian rifle militias and with schools implementing airsoft training ranges are a start, but I miss real boollets and powder.
This changes how your sight picture appears, making you less accurate, and holding off 5-10-15 cm at 300m by eye isn't at all easy with a blade, and is impossible with a ring (I use a blade though). Back in the day when people had to use the military sights they would apparently correct for wind by canting the rifle, cos this gives you enough of a degree of fine control to move the point of impact the few cm one way or the other.
@@BlokeontheRange Interesting. That would make for a good video if it's windy again to tape a digital goniometer on the rifle to try that. How do you gauge the wind at that range? Is there a flag/hose?
At Aarberg there's flags at both ends of the targets. Normally there's a flag somewhere. You're sheltered from it at the firing point though. A lot of Swiss shooters deny the effect of wind though (unless it's really windy).
The flashing cross is the position of the last-fired shot and the arrow indicates the direction from the centre. The arrow is a bit redundant but it's probably a hold-over from the previous-generation LED boxes like you see in this video: th-cam.com/video/5RRG2iAMQmw/w-d-xo.html
I couldn't help myself and was timing him between shots by the highly accurate method of counting one thousand, two thousand, three thousand etc. Reckon he's getting a round off every five or six seconds so let's say 10 a minute, so 600 in an hour. This does of course assume that the reloads are slick with loaded magazines being fed to him, and the Chinese in question have the decency to rock up promptly, in the same place and then stand still. HTH.
Clockwise is up and that is Right !!.....proper English adjustments, what !! Of course if your meddling with one of those Continental types your on your own old chap
I don't always adjust the wrong way. But when I do, I make sure I am completely off target and into the next canton.
Shades of Day of the Jackal and Jack Black's hand....
that brings back so many memories of the jungschützenkurs
Friend of mine during his national service in the Guards Battalion in Austria swapped the barrel and front assembly of his drill Stg 58 (FAL) into his live fire one.
The drill one had probably been dropped a thousand times, it reliably shot into the target of the guy to left of him.😂😂😂
One time Mike, I was chanting to myself "Hold one and a half mil Right, one and a half mil Right" over and over. Buzzer sounds, I hold one a half Left for every shot....
It's so effing easy to do, isn't it? Back in my target rifle days, "I lost a point cos I adjusted the wrong way for wind" was not uncommon (and in that world if you're not shooting a full score you're not sparking unless the wind conditions are atrocious).
Great shooting again.
Just did my very first Feldschiessen Training today with my K11.
The last time, I have shot a rifle was some twenty years ago with a Ruger Mini 14.
I scored 32 points, which made me quite happy.
The recoil of the K11 is quite a thing in comparison.
Anyhow, I am super stoked.😊
K-31 is on my short list. Fun to see one in action. Thank you for all you do!
I enjoyed the video Bloke, with the scoring screen incremental adjustments to sights is a huge advantage which you used well, and an excellent score for 300m.
I have adjusted the wrong way many times! And I don't even have the excuse that some of my sights are marked differently.
I feel ya, Sir…. I’ve made that same mistake a few times myself…. At least you figured it out quick
I swear I relearn scope adjustments every time I zero an optic and every time I manage to get it wrong for the first five shots
Good shooting! I managed a 61 with my K31. With no wind in Minnesota.
After seeing the Feldschiessen I will take my K31 with me on the next trip to the 300 m range, where I usually fancy only the scoped precision rifles.
Walther still uses "bei R" and "bei L" adjustments on their olympic target pistols like the SSP. It is kind of confusing when you use other pistol sights most of the time.
How did you finishing in the overall standings?
Fired a practice 300m Sunday with a fairly consistent 15-25kph wind from the 3 o’clock. A good 20cm impact shift on average.
Can't you just aim 8" to your right and call it good?
I recently borrowed a rifle from a friend where the elevation dial was somehow the reverse of what I'm used to (and markings unclear), knew I had to dial down because the rifle had been used for a target downrange... and ended up dialing (very) high and hitting the dirt even further downrange 🤦♂
Thankfully it wasn't for a competition shoot, but everyone sure had a good laugh when they realized I had dialed that far in the wrong direction.
I think every competitive shooter has done this. It’s on these days when the top shooters swear loudly mid-match, the chronically mid-place shooters know they are in the running once again to win one.
The brass catcher to the left: What's with the "waffen growler" logo added in during editting?
A bit of publicity for my friend who's shooting to the left of me ;)
@@BlokeontheRange I thought you were selling brass deflectors now 😂
I remain immensely jealous of the shooting culture and access to live fire and decent ranges in Switzerland.
Kind of wish the govt here in Taiwan would pull their finger out and copy the same model, all the talk of raising civilian rifle militias and with schools implementing airsoft training ranges are a start, but I miss real boollets and powder.
I love my k31
Your swiss german is very good. Bernese with a slight british accent.
Thanks. There's still a touch of Dutch in there I think, on some of the vowel sounds, but far less than there used to be.
@@BlokeontheRange You speak the "Berner Dialekt" very good.
Merci vieumau :)
So are all your shots at 300m?? I personally would be tempted to just hold left or right as needed.
This changes how your sight picture appears, making you less accurate, and holding off 5-10-15 cm at 300m by eye isn't at all easy with a blade, and is impossible with a ring (I use a blade though). Back in the day when people had to use the military sights they would apparently correct for wind by canting the rifle, cos this gives you enough of a degree of fine control to move the point of impact the few cm one way or the other.
@@BlokeontheRange
Interesting. That would make for a good video if it's windy again to tape a digital goniometer on the rifle to try that. How do you gauge the wind at that range? Is there a flag/hose?
At Aarberg there's flags at both ends of the targets. Normally there's a flag somewhere. You're sheltered from it at the firing point though. A lot of Swiss shooters deny the effect of wind though (unless it's really windy).
Shame about the diopter adjustment but still interesting Mike
Did Ürsu said Merci for discreet advertising his shop? 😂
Yes 😁
Wie starche Rückschlag het de Karabiner31, chammer de guet ohni Schüssjagge schüsse?
Jein... S cha e chlei unaagnähm sii ohni Schiessjacke, nämli mitem originali schaftkappe us stahl...
@@BlokeontheRange Ok... Ja es isch de vom Grossvater und er het di originali Stahl-schaftchappe. Mal probiere XD.
Hesch Du en neue Lauf im K31 drin, oder wie guet zwäg isch de Lauf?
Originallauf. Cha nid klage 😊
👍🙋♂
Were most people using bipods?
Most people were shooting a Stgw 90 so yes
Hi! What are the purpose of the flashing cross, and the arrow on the target's screen?
The flashing cross is the position of the last-fired shot and the arrow indicates the direction from the centre. The arrow is a bit redundant but it's probably a hold-over from the previous-generation LED boxes like you see in this video: th-cam.com/video/5RRG2iAMQmw/w-d-xo.html
@@BlokeontheRange Thank you!👍
Rumor has hit the Swiss but a Ricola down south in to shoot better. Try it m8
Very good. How many Chinese could you take out in one hour?
I couldn't help myself and was timing him between shots by the highly accurate method of counting one thousand, two thousand, three thousand etc. Reckon he's getting a round off every five or six seconds so let's say 10 a minute, so 600 in an hour. This does of course assume that the reloads are slick with loaded magazines being fed to him, and the Chinese in question have the decency to rock up promptly, in the same place and then stand still. HTH.
Clockwise is up and that is Right !!.....proper English adjustments, what !! Of course if your meddling with one of those Continental types your on your own old chap
No results or ranking ? Are they that bad 😆 ?
voilà www.vsg-muehlau-aarberg.ch/resultate/
@@BlokeontheRange Auto-translating that page gives you such gems as "Wreath quotas" "Individual wetsuits" "Bear cuff shooting" and "Mingers".
No. 2 - Jahrgang 1948... 😎
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The original diopters are 2cm per click at 300m, which is near as damn it 1/4 MOA. I don't recall ever having said anything different.
@@BlokeontheRange Just rewatched the part and I just misread 2cm/click at 300m as "2 click at 300m" .. sorry for the confusion 😒
No worries :)
Mazda Schwarte