I believe 75-90ml of oil is the new recommendation not 150ml. 150ml will cause the oil to blow out of the breather and hurts the performance also. Not necessary to raise the front wheel. Rock the bike backward and forward when draining and filling in case a gear is blocking the flow of oil.
@@motortherapyinc it was in a youtube vid by; Have A Good One / the title is; How to maintain your Talaria Sting ebike. He said both him and GritShift asked Talaria directly. It's believable because I also carefully measured how much oil was in mine and it was at 82 ml
@@motortherapyinc I would start over and measure what comes out. I'm thinking you might not have enough oil if you filled with the bike level. I still had to raise the front tire to get 85ml in it. Makes no sense, 82ml drained out with the bike level. I measure what comes out and put that much back in. That system has served me well.
I watched a few videos where guys went to change the oil and they only had about 30% in it. They recommended that you should check it when you first get it to make sure that they are full.
I had to lift my front wheel about 12” off the ground in order to get the full 150ml to fit. Sitting flat and level I was only able to get about half that into the gearbox.
@@motortherapyinc Hi bro. I have an update on my oil change performed two weeks ago. I added 150 mL and noticed a few days later when I finally did a top speed run that my top speed was reduced by approximately 4 to 5 km/h. Just a couple of days ago I drove full speed to the store about 6 km away on an especially warm day. I almost never drive full speed for that distance. When I got to the store I noticed there was oil leaking from the overflow tube. When I get back home I checked the oil and there was plenty still in the gearbox. I think next oil change I’m going to try between 100 and 125 mL and see how that affects my top speed.
@@marrzie467 that's a solid idea man, I haven't yet had that problem, but I honestly don't think that I have enough in mine.. I heard you have to lift the front tire up off the ground about a foot to fully fill the gearbox. Not sure if that's true or not tho
You'll love it man, solid bike for sure. Definitely a bit beefier too, I'll be coming out with a review video & a "must have" mods list soon! Thank you for the support!🤘🏼
That's a good question bro! There is an airflow tube that runs up the back of the bike & right under the seat. When the bike is standing up, its 100% vertical. I assume if you have it laying completely flat, there's a possibility that it could leak some oil out, but I'm not sure if it's even able to come out of that tube. If you had to lay the bike down, id suggest just covering that tube with electrical tape or something. Just remember to take it off before riding!!!🤣🤣
Ok. So . I'm looking to buy one of these....x160-x260-sur-ron-sting . I just wanna know if you could just only and forever just have one .and mod it out .... What would you pic???? Thank you. And iam so happy I found your channel. Love it..
You're in for a treat when you get one man! Personally, I've fallen in love with my Talaria. At the end of the day, it's a bit bigger and more reinforced, which I love. As of right now, a surron or x260 is the most modable, but companies have already started making talaria parts. I will be coming out with some videos at some point explaining why I would pick the Talaria, so stay tuned! & I'm happy you did too man, thank you so much!!🤘🏼
Price wise is the x160 even worth getting. Just cause it's cheaper. And then to mod it. Just wondering if it's worth it or just bite it and get the x260 or talaris
@@SurRonnie i would say no unless you're a beginner. You will end up spending a bit more than you would if you just bought a surron or talaria. If you're hitting jumps & riding it hard, it'll definitely take more of a beating. Then again, if modding things is something you're into, it could be worth it for the project. Long story short, the x160 is best for beginners because its a bit less powerful & smaller to handle.
@@KillabeeTsting9erGurl yeah for sure I'm still waiting for it to come back in stock, considering the forks cost around 2k new, and most places sell the sting with manitou for around 5k it's actually a steal, heck I could even sell the fork back for 1.5k and get an ebay rst for like $200, which is why they never stay in stock haha
Hey man, thank you A I think so for sure. My biggest recommendation would be to get some riser bars to make them sit up a bit higher. Here's the link where I got mine🤘🏼 www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZL3TBPB?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
I live in New Paris Ohio and looking to get my self one love the look of them also work in Richmond indana so I would love to have on nice day all the time miss rideing them all
It's supposed to be 85w 90 but I'm not sure how big of a deal it is or isn't. 80w90 is whats common at the store i had to special order 85w90 for the talaria.
Yeah, I looked up the specs and noticed that as well. I reached out to the website I ordered the oil from & asked what was up with that. They said that it's so minimal of a difference that it really doesn't matter & the 80w90 will work fine! I am curious as to where you ordered yours though?
@@motortherapyinc NAPA has liquid moly 85w 90 (canada). I think that the 80w is good for colder temps (-26c) and 85w maybe -12c. I might have it all backwards. Oh, this little bike is a great hill climber just stock.
hey man. just found your channel, and i like it very much ) can you make a video or just reply me here - about necessary parts and upgrades that need to be done before riding? I`m curious about the stock brakes - do i need to change them all, or just the brake pads will be enough? and those 2 wires from the brakes(stop sensors) - will it affect somehow on the motor/gearbox, when they are unplugged? i`m waiting for my talaria already, and i want to order the most useful stuff for it - just don`t know what do i need?! I'll be very grateful if can help me out will all this. 😆 And don't stop making the vids.
Hey bro! First off, thank you so much!! In all honesty, I think the most necessary parts/mods to get before you ride would be handlebars + the direct mount & pegs! You really don't need that stuff, but to me, that's the most important. Now you got me wanting to make a video about mods, so maybe I will & I'll go a little further into detail!🤘🏼 thank you so much for the support man, I hope this helped!🙏🏼
Why aren’t you using 85/90 per spec?? This is the third oil change vid I’ve seen and seems like people are just using whatever they have on the shelf and saying “good enough”. Viscosity and lubrication specs are there for a reason. whether or not “you think“ this is going to be ”good enough” is fine but those gears are operating under extremely heavy loads and high temperatures and the engineers know what they are doing - if you put the wrong oil in, even if it’s “pretty close” it is going to screw up your shit eventually. People really looking to these videos for instruction, you might wanna consider that people will be copying what you do. 🤷🏼♂️
I looked it up & got it from a website that legit said it was for the Talaria. I also emailed the website to make sure it was the right shit and got the okay to use it.
Curious why that fill hole bolt is so long? Should be just a little plastic cap like on my KDX…. So you just filled it to the top? Ordered my Talaria yesterday so I’m playing the waiting game… fucking shipping company Amped bikes used doesn’t answer their phone so I’ll already stressed about that…. Two more things I wanted to touch on… did you check the level of oil when you unboxed it? Assuming there is a way to check it? Me I’ll be putting new oil in mine the day I unbox it…. Also I see they sell a vent hose filter now to keep dirt out of the vent tube… instead of buying this I will just replace the vent tube with a longer one and loop it up at a higher point on the bike.. I like your red accents… if your bored post a link in your description to these items… keep the videos coming
I have no idea, I'm assuming it's a built in dip stick to check the level, although I don't see why you would need it because you just fill it up all the way lol. & oh man, that's a tough game to play!! Hang in there man🤣 i did not check it when I unboxed it, but that is a good idea honestly!! I thought about getting that little vent, but the hose is pretty long & tucked away, so I left it for now. Thank you for the comment man, I will list all the mods and their links when I get home from work for you!!! Thanks again man, more videos to come for sure!🤘🏼
Mod list: MUD FLAP (had to zip tie up top to make it work, but you can't really see the zip ties) www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0953HR3XF?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title GRIPS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07DPP3MDX?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title BRAKE GRIPS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07C6CRGJ5?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image PEGS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0793Q2KYZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title VALVE STEM CAPS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071JNT3CZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title HANDLEBARS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZL3TBPB?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title DIRECT STEM MOUNT www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076PK7KRP?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title&th=1 FORK STEM SPACERS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08NYYWP8W?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title NUMBER PLATE www.modernbike.com/product-2126306106?gclid=CjwKCAjwve2TBhByEiwAaktM1JBTTUOWoROGYqZdCcBBTOrcxwlDds0mOWBFldDoz47fAg7OQFbCFhoChVUQAvD_BwEwww.modernbike.com/product-2126306106?gclid=CjwKCAjwve2TBhByEiwAaktM1JBTTUOWoROGYqZdCcBBTOrcxwlDds0mOWBFldDoz47fAg7OQFbCFhoChVUQAvD_BwE NUMBERS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07KDKTN4T?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
My drain plug was so tight I thought it went to Jiffy Lube, these idiots need to chill, literally the tightest bolt I've ever had to remove... I can see them at the factory now " I fix these Americans"
@@motortherapyinc Literally just got it off with a 24" breaker bar and stripped bolt remover, the drain plug is toast... A quick search show they are out of stock everywhere... Do ya think that might be because you don't tighten them to 400ft pounds! FYI Just changed the fork spring in my RST forks with a Rockshox XX stiff and it's amazing, highly recommend, just get a spring for your weight, I'm 6'4 265 and this is perfect! I can post a link but didn't want to on your feed , got it on amazon fyi
@@petecostanzo holy shit, mine wasn't that tight. That's fucking nuts! I definitely need a front fork upgrade, completely blew mine.. feel free to toss the link here man, that'd be awesome!🤘🏼
@@motortherapyinc Here you go, simple 10 min install, you can get a few others that might be more for your weight... My bike feels 100% different... 10x better .... here's the vid i found and used for the install... th-cam.com/video/HSz7-KqiTS8/w-d-xo.html
I believe 75-90ml of oil is the new recommendation not 150ml. 150ml will cause the oil to blow out of the breather and hurts the performance also. Not necessary to raise the front wheel. Rock the bike backward and forward when draining and filling in case a gear is blocking the flow of oil.
That's a super useful tip man, thank you! If you don't mind me asking, where did you get that info from?
@@motortherapyinc it was in a youtube vid by; Have A Good One / the title is; How to maintain your Talaria Sting ebike. He said both him and GritShift asked Talaria directly. It's believable because I also carefully measured how much oil was in mine and it was at 82 ml
@ZeroBoyRick awesome, thank you so much man! I appreciate that-it's definitely important!
@@motortherapyinc I would start over and measure what comes out. I'm thinking you might not have enough oil if you filled with the bike level. I still had to raise the front tire to get 85ml in it. Makes no sense, 82ml drained out with the bike level. I measure what comes out and put that much back in. That system has served me well.
@ZeroBoyRick makes sense man!! Thank you again, I truly appreciate it!
I’ve been watching your videos about the Talaria sting and I’m getting one soon very helpful videos keep up the work bro
Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate that man. You're going to love it, the bike is so gnarly! Thank you again, I will for sure!!🤘🏼🤙🏼
Love the smell of gear oil!
I watched a few videos where guys went to change the oil and they only had about 30% in it. They recommended that you should check it when you first get it to make sure that they are full.
Yeah, there's been alot of confusion with the oil for the Talaria. That's a good tip, thanks my man🤘🏼
Can you do a video on error code 48….
I'm not familiar with that code, but i did look it up. Talaria Canada has a chart with all the error codes and possible solutions
I had to lift my front wheel about 12” off the ground in order to get the full 150ml to fit. Sitting flat and level I was only able to get about half that into the gearbox.
Oh wow. That's a very good point man. Thank you for that, I'm going to try that next time🙏🏼🤘🏼
@@motortherapyinc Hi bro. I have an update on my oil change performed two weeks ago. I added 150 mL and noticed a few days later when I finally did a top speed run that my top speed was reduced by approximately 4 to 5 km/h. Just a couple of days ago I drove full speed to the store about 6 km away on an especially warm day. I almost never drive full speed for that distance. When I got to the store I noticed there was oil leaking from the overflow tube. When I get back home I checked the oil and there was plenty still in the gearbox. I think next oil change I’m going to try between 100 and 125 mL and see how that affects my top speed.
@@marrzie467 that's a solid idea man, I haven't yet had that problem, but I honestly don't think that I have enough in mine.. I heard you have to lift the front tire up off the ground about a foot to fully fill the gearbox. Not sure if that's true or not tho
@@motortherapyinc Ya that’s what I had to do and to get the full 150 in I had to lift it closer to 15-18”. Have a good day.
@@marrzie467 gotcha! Thank you for that. Lol totally thought that was someone else that had said that to me! It all makes sense now lol, thank you
When should you do a oil change on your talaria
Sorry man, just seeing this now. I forget the recommended numbers, but the first oil change should be at 150 miles and every 500 miles after that.
Think I will be getting a Talaria Sting, keep the videos coming :)
You'll love it man, solid bike for sure. Definitely a bit beefier too, I'll be coming out with a review video & a "must have" mods list soon! Thank you for the support!🤘🏼
Just say u have to use the box end for the wrench I have socket wrenches and it doesn’t fit so I used the open end striped my bolt
Good tip brotha! That's rough, you live and you learn!
I recommend cleaning and DE greasing your bolts before adding blue loctite. Greasing your bolts is asking for trouble on these bikes.
hey man i have a question about transporting this bike can i have it laying down or will that mess up the gearbox (im a huge noob)
That's a good question bro! There is an airflow tube that runs up the back of the bike & right under the seat. When the bike is standing up, its 100% vertical. I assume if you have it laying completely flat, there's a possibility that it could leak some oil out, but I'm not sure if it's even able to come out of that tube. If you had to lay the bike down, id suggest just covering that tube with electrical tape or something. Just remember to take it off before riding!!!🤣🤣
I'm at 120 miles on mine rn any info helps
Oh awesome man! Info regarding what exactly?
Cool video, Im saving up for the stinger \m/ 😎
Thank you!! It's well worth it!🤘🏼
Ok. So . I'm looking to buy one of these....x160-x260-sur-ron-sting . I just wanna know if you could just only and forever just have one .and mod it out .... What would you pic???? Thank you. And iam so happy I found your channel. Love it..
You're in for a treat when you get one man! Personally, I've fallen in love with my Talaria. At the end of the day, it's a bit bigger and more reinforced, which I love. As of right now, a surron or x260 is the most modable, but companies have already started making talaria parts. I will be coming out with some videos at some point explaining why I would pick the Talaria, so stay tuned! & I'm happy you did too man, thank you so much!!🤘🏼
Price wise is the x160 even worth getting. Just cause it's cheaper. And then to mod it. Just wondering if it's worth it or just bite it and get the x260 or talaris
@@SurRonnie i would say no unless you're a beginner. You will end up spending a bit more than you would if you just bought a surron or talaria. If you're hitting jumps & riding it hard, it'll definitely take more of a beating. Then again, if modding things is something you're into, it could be worth it for the project. Long story short, the x160 is best for beginners because its a bit less powerful & smaller to handle.
Great video My Talaria coming next month. Question would you recommend the RST or DNM forks. Thanks J
Thank you! You're going to love it man! & I honestly don't know because I've only rode the RST's, I'm sorry man!
I recommend the Fastace forks
manitou when they ever come back in stock 🤣
@@v000000000000v they are the best option. Most expensive too though
@@KillabeeTsting9erGurl yeah for sure I'm still waiting for it to come back in stock, considering the forks cost around 2k new, and most places sell the sting with manitou for around 5k it's actually a steal, heck I could even sell the fork back for 1.5k and get an ebay rst for like $200, which is why they never stay in stock haha
keep uploading 👍🏻
Sure will! Thank you so much!!🤘🏼
Hey, awesome videos! I'm a little over 6ft tall, do you think would the Talaria be confortable to me without any mods? Thank you :)
Hey man, thank you A I think so for sure. My biggest recommendation would be to get some riser bars to make them sit up a bit higher. Here's the link where I got mine🤘🏼 www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZL3TBPB?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
@@motortherapyinc thank you so much!!!
@@neluka2008 you're welcome!🤙🏼
I live in New Paris Ohio and looking to get my self one love the look of them also work in Richmond indana so I would love to have on nice day all the time miss rideing them all
I feel you there brotha, they're definitely tons of fun, you won't regret it!
It's supposed to be 85w 90 but I'm not sure how big of a deal it is or isn't. 80w90 is whats common at the store i had to special order 85w90 for the talaria.
Yeah, I looked up the specs and noticed that as well. I reached out to the website I ordered the oil from & asked what was up with that. They said that it's so minimal of a difference that it really doesn't matter & the 80w90 will work fine! I am curious as to where you ordered yours though?
@@motortherapyinc amazon just typed in 85w90
@@MotoAlias ahhhh, gotcha, I thought you meant something different by special order lol
@@motortherapyinc NAPA has liquid moly 85w 90 (canada). I think that the 80w is good for colder temps (-26c) and 85w maybe -12c. I might have it all backwards. Oh, this little bike is a great hill climber just stock.
@@mpct400 oh dope, thanks for the info brother! I appreciate it big time! & it sure is man, such a blast!!
Unlug and remove kickstand switch while you have it apart.
Thats a good idea honestly, thanks man
Use a large syringe to put oil in. I use 60ml syringe.
That's genius dude, definitely going to next time
hey man. just found your channel, and i like it very much ) can you make a video or just reply me here - about necessary parts and upgrades that need to be done before riding? I`m curious about the stock brakes - do i need to change them all, or just the brake pads will be enough? and those 2 wires from the brakes(stop sensors) - will it affect somehow on the motor/gearbox, when they are unplugged? i`m waiting for my talaria already, and i want to order the most useful stuff for it - just don`t know what do i need?! I'll be very grateful if can help me out will all this. 😆 And don't stop making the vids.
Hey bro! First off, thank you so much!! In all honesty, I think the most necessary parts/mods to get before you ride would be handlebars + the direct mount & pegs! You really don't need that stuff, but to me, that's the most important. Now you got me wanting to make a video about mods, so maybe I will & I'll go a little further into detail!🤘🏼 thank you so much for the support man, I hope this helped!🙏🏼
@@motortherapyinc I'm already searching the new parts on ebay ) thnx man.
@@anopdesignstock awesome! You're welcome!🤘🏼
Where did you get your foot pegs? And do they wobble around like ive some people saying , because they were technically made for the Sur Ron .
Cheapos off amazon brotha, they were like 30 bucks or something🤣 they do wobble, I'm just waiting for them to comeout with Talaria pegs lol
@@motortherapyinc thanks 🤙
@@MrSechelt you're welcome homie🤙🏼
Not a fan of oil changes on an e-bike, & apparently, it's not that simple on the Talaria. Well done video though with good vibe!
I feel you there man! Def not a plus. At least its pretty simple tho, thanks a ton man!🙏🏼
Very simple actually
Why aren’t you using 85/90 per spec?? This is the third oil change vid I’ve seen and seems like people are just using whatever they have on the shelf and saying “good enough”.
Viscosity and lubrication specs are there for a reason. whether or not “you think“ this is going to be ”good enough” is fine but those gears are operating under extremely heavy loads and high temperatures and the engineers know what they are doing - if you put the wrong oil in, even if it’s “pretty close” it is going to screw up your shit eventually. People really looking to these videos for instruction, you might wanna consider that people will be copying what you do. 🤷🏼♂️
I looked it up & got it from a website that legit said it was for the Talaria. I also emailed the website to make sure it was the right shit and got the okay to use it.
Curious why that fill hole bolt is so long? Should be just a little plastic cap like on my KDX…. So you just filled it to the top? Ordered my Talaria yesterday so I’m playing the waiting game… fucking shipping company Amped bikes used doesn’t answer their phone so I’ll already stressed about that…. Two more things I wanted to touch on… did you check the level of oil when you unboxed it? Assuming there is a way to check it? Me I’ll be putting new oil in mine the day I unbox it…. Also I see they sell a vent hose filter now to keep dirt out of the vent tube… instead of buying this I will just replace the vent tube with a longer one and loop it up at a higher point on the bike.. I like your red accents… if your bored post a link in your description to these items… keep the videos coming
I have no idea, I'm assuming it's a built in dip stick to check the level, although I don't see why you would need it because you just fill it up all the way lol. & oh man, that's a tough game to play!! Hang in there man🤣 i did not check it when I unboxed it, but that is a good idea honestly!! I thought about getting that little vent, but the hose is pretty long & tucked away, so I left it for now. Thank you for the comment man, I will list all the mods and their links when I get home from work for you!!! Thanks again man, more videos to come for sure!🤘🏼
Mod list:
MUD FLAP (had to zip tie up top to make it work, but you can't really see the zip ties) www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0953HR3XF?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
GRIPS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07DPP3MDX?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
BRAKE GRIPS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07C6CRGJ5?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image
PEGS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0793Q2KYZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
VALVE STEM CAPS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071JNT3CZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
HANDLEBARS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07ZL3TBPB?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
DIRECT STEM MOUNT www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076PK7KRP?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title&th=1
FORK STEM SPACERS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08NYYWP8W?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
NUMBER PLATE www.modernbike.com/product-2126306106?gclid=CjwKCAjwve2TBhByEiwAaktM1JBTTUOWoROGYqZdCcBBTOrcxwlDds0mOWBFldDoz47fAg7OQFbCFhoChVUQAvD_BwEwww.modernbike.com/product-2126306106?gclid=CjwKCAjwve2TBhByEiwAaktM1JBTTUOWoROGYqZdCcBBTOrcxwlDds0mOWBFldDoz47fAg7OQFbCFhoChVUQAvD_BwE
NUMBERS www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07KDKTN4T?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
My drain plug was so tight I thought it went to Jiffy Lube, these idiots need to chill, literally the tightest bolt I've ever had to remove... I can see them at the factory now " I fix these Americans"
Lmfaoooooo mine was mad tight too🤣 can't believe I had to use channel locks to get it off😩
@@motortherapyinc Literally just got it off with a 24" breaker bar and stripped bolt remover, the drain plug is toast... A quick search show they are out of stock everywhere... Do ya think that might be because you don't tighten them to 400ft pounds! FYI Just changed the fork spring in my RST forks with a Rockshox XX stiff and it's amazing, highly recommend, just get a spring for your weight, I'm 6'4 265 and this is perfect! I can post a link but didn't want to on your feed , got it on amazon fyi
@@petecostanzo holy shit, mine wasn't that tight. That's fucking nuts! I definitely need a front fork upgrade, completely blew mine.. feel free to toss the link here man, that'd be awesome!🤘🏼
@@motortherapyinc Here you go, simple 10 min install, you can get a few others that might be more for your weight... My bike feels 100% different... 10x better .... here's the vid i found and used for the install... th-cam.com/video/HSz7-KqiTS8/w-d-xo.html
@@petecostanzo thank you so much man, I really appreciate that!!!🤙🏼