If you enjoyed this series, we have our MID BUDGET blind test series coming out this summer! Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss it! Bilstein 6112, Ironman Foam Cell Pro, Fox TRD Pro, Falcon, Elka 2.0, Eibach Pro, Dobinsons MRR.
Yall need to do this with a 4Runner as well! It looks like you guys like the front OME front but the rear shock is terrible. Explains a lot in my 4Runner.
These guys doing god’s work for the community! I would never expect 5100 to be this much better because the hearsay on the forums was “they ride stiff especially with no added weight”. Maybe true for a different truck with a different valving? IDK. Now what do you think about the spacer vs stock. Was it similar or worse? Again, thank you guys so much for doing this!
I think a lot of people end up running 5100's with aftermarket coils that they are not valved for and add way too much lift/preload/spring force, then complain about the ride. The spacers were definitely worse than stock!
Yup it's exactly the case that OO said, a majority are running them with "upgraded" coils which ruins them. 6112 are offered in a heavy load variant for the 4r at least which includes heavier rate coils and the valve stack is completely different.
For my JLU with stock springs that I’m told will be softer than the big name, higher lifts, Metalcloak and Northridge 4x4 suggested them saying they will ride well with that spring/5100 considering my budget constraint.
@@OverlandOutfitters it's like 10-20% spring rate change requires updating valving. There is little to no documentation on shock recommended spring rates.
Thanks for your patience guys! Some technical difficulties delayed us, but it was still Friday in Hawaii! Hope you enjoy it, we worked our butts off this time around!
@@OverlandOutfitters Any estimate on when the mid budget video will be released? I imagine it takes a lot of work and time since you guys have to remove, install, remove, install, etc the shocks which can't be easy. No rush, I just love these comparison videos and am stoked for the 6112 since those are what I have on my taco. Also, pls bring back the shock collars 😈
This channel is FANTASTIC and I am a NEW SUBSCRIBER!!! I am an old off-roader (in my 70's) going back to the early days of BAJA with Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Ivan "Ironman" Stewart and Phil Reusche (who I worked with). Your content is dead on accurate and hopefully people will listen. BTW, I would like you to do a show on "Bump Stops".
Id like to see you guys go into more detail about the valving and spring rates. As well as discussing progressive and digressive valving if any of the coilovers were setup as such.
Yup, this is what I have on my 4th Gen Taco. Big improvement over stock on or off road. Also added roadmaster active suspension, which helped even more.
One thing everyone needs to know is that if you have remote reservoirs, the valve shims and even the 10psi difference in the Nitrogen makes a huge difference. My kings are set to 150psi and its perfect. I have a buddy who and Fox 2.5 adjustable remote res. And his Nitrogen psi was jacked way to much and he had an absolute shit ride on his 2nd Gen Tacoma. After I dropped some psi his truck rode pretty Damn good.
I'd like to see the best of budget, mid and high go up against the highest of the high. Which may be your eventual plan, anyway. Something like ADS, fox elite etc
Awesome video. Gives great testament to how much Toyota has done with their stock suspension on the TRD trim levels. For most people you may not even need to do any changes to have a good time offroad.
Next time please change up your methodology as I noticed this video started producing a confirmation bias as everyone began remembering one as pretty good and four as pretty bad. To eliminate it, each test should vary up the numbers associated with the product
I have always been impressed with Bilstein have had them on dozens of vehicles for 10 plus years Never Exspected them to be close to fox 2.5 on some of the test i am impressed that Bilstein is on top 30:06 @Overland Outfitters
I love this series. I think as an improvement you could have a grading system to be more precise than just ranking. Like score 1-5 based on a couple categories. 2 being stock, 1 worse than stock, 5 way better than stock.
It wasn't mentioned in the video I think but we're all the same spring rates used and we're they all the same as the stock rate? It looks like aftermarket springs were used on each shock but would nice to confirm that. Thanks! Great series to watch!
Buy once and cry once. I bought Kings stage 4A from AccuTune and zero regrets. If you can afford it then getr done. If you can't then you will still have fun with lower quality ones don't worry. I had fun with my stock bilstein 4600s on Tacoma TRD Off road
So im pretty much coming away with all if them are trash off road and the 5100 was 'acceptable'....jeez, if this translates some to the 4R then i have no idea what suspension i want to get. Thankfully they all feel thr same on pavement where i will be 90% of the time i guess...uhhg. great video and really appreciate all the effort but has turned all my research upsidedown on suspension!
5100s are great on my 04 with max height setting and daystar top spacer, rear coil spacer to level. If you have more weight up front get new front springs too.
I have eibach stage 1 with spc utc's on my 4th gen 4Runner. I hit this one intersection by my house at 40mph, definite air and they land so smoothly. There must be a big difference between a tacoma and a 4Runner off road. Rear leafs vs. rear coils 🤷♂️
Wow such different results than my own. The Dobinsons are way more plush than any Bilsteins i have ran on my 18 Tacoma. They didn’t say how much preload they were running or what position on the circlips which plays a big part.
I have Dobinsons IMS on my 4Runner and in all aspects huge improvement over the factory XREAS suspension imo, on and off road. Less body roll, not too firm, off road I feel planted, I do mostly beach driving, the beach can be rough in terms of terrain, not all smooth sand many dips and precious tire tracks.
@@rossipremier sometimes the unbiased truth is hard to accept haha. I highly doubt these 2 very knowledgeable guys would've ran the wrong spring and/or preloaded them "way too much"
Loved the video! Did you guys use the stock rear leaf springs for all the shocks? One thing to consider is that some of the aftermarket shocks (I.E. OME) may be valved assuming they will be paired with the corresponding leaf springs. That could potentially explain the sketchiness of the OME rear shocks if they are tuned with excessive rebound dampening when paired with the stock leafs.
Lmao so looks like I’m going for bilstein5100 on my 07 tundra!! I wonder if my 3” spacer lift has made my spring less desirable to pair a 5100 with , and I’m considering the eibach spring and rocking the 5100 at its lowest clip? Anyone do that before and like the ride?
Sounds about right. I have 5100 with eibach pro truck coils on my gx470. The eibach springs are pretty supple and the bilstein wrangles em in. The 5100 s weakness are stiff slow speed damping like on bad city streets you feel the little bumps and on rock crawl they will toss your head side to side. I did pair mine with sumo springs bumpstops on all courners when the digressive valving falls off. I haven’t experienced topping out yet but i will probably get a limiting strap as extra insurance
The fact that test 1 and 4 were so similar even after Ian massaged number 4 is insane given the price difference. Great video y'all, improvement in every way over season 1. For S3 I'd like to see blind footwear reviews too, my money is on the flip flobsters.
To be fair, i only drilled 1 bleed hole. I was gonna make a video where i slowly fix them... those foxes now have the actual race series piston and much better valving and the text i got from the customer was its the best riding setup hes ever experienced. Fox has a great product, but bad valving.
Make a new series like this with NewRough Country Vertex, Fox Perfomance Elite, King, New Biletein B8 8112, Icon, OME BP-51 and maybe new Ride Shocks from ACCUTUNE Off-Road… please and thank you ❤❤🎉🎉
Where are Apache AX2!? Love my Icon front 5160 rear hacked together budget setup. Works well. You should do rear shocks between Tacoma and 4runners! Shock length and show what happens with a shock damped for leafs on coils visa versa.
One of the best suspension contents on the internet period. I now know I will stick to my tacomas stock suspension and when needed, upgrade to the 5100s thank you!
We find that most people who run budget shocks tend to keep the swaybar. Also there was lots of feedback last year saying that we should have kept it. Finally, these shocks are tuned around having a swaybar, so it's the fairest way to test them
Aren't most of these aftermarket shocks even in their lower-weight "stock" versions intended for overlanders with some additional weight day-to-day? (Bumpers, winch etc even if not loaded down) I'd be curious to see the same test with a couple hundred extra kilos in the back and a steel bumper on the front.
THIS IS HANDS DOWN MY NEW FAV YT VIDEO! Holy hell these guys are great! I want to get a new suspension just to hang out with these dudes. Sooo funny - SUB’d
I took my truck to some woops and the stock bilstein shocks collapsed then the dealer replaced them I was at 10000 miles. Then I went out again and took it easy on them and they bucled again. Wish I could attach photos or video I will never trust the oem stock TRD off road shocks again.
Wow - great test! The guys in my local 4WP store recommended Bilstein as a little better than Fox, especially considering the price difference, so they were definitely right. Kinda surprised that the Eibachs weren't better since their springs are usually highly rated.
Man, I feel bad for those dudes. Not only did they have to break their backs doing all of those tests, they then have to get shock collared for guessing the wrong brands? Damn, give those guys a raise!
Why doesn't anyone test the Rough Country Vertex 2.5 system with the reservoir front and back or the M1 series. I have been running them for quite sometime and never had any issues with them on and Off-Road and the ride quality to me are good.
The camera work and translation is borderline unbearable this is very hard to watch and why a wig and eyebrows looks ridiculous. Not going to be able to finish the vod.
Dude the fact you jumped a basically stock taco with 5100s and didnt grenade anything is a testimate to how solid the Tacoma is. We all run them here in Canada and theyre phenomenal
This is super useful for a lot of buyers!!! I've had the fox 2.5s and was not impressed until I had them revealed. They should be better out of the box. Weirdly the fox 2.0s we're quite good and plush feeling on my Tundra, but very harsh on a 4Runner. It's like the vehicle formula they're using for the midsize segment is based on a 3000kg vehicle. Thanks again!! Great content.
Did the spacer use bilstein 4600 shocks? they are supposedly valved the same or very similar as 5100s so did the spacer through off the geometry to make them perform worse?
That's what I was wondering as well. Internally there's no difference between the stock (TRD?) 4600 shocks and 5100s, except the shim stacks each uses. Both are digressive as well.
Very surprised on the Dobinson's. Coming from the Eibach stage 2R that rode absolutely terrible (put 20k miles on this setup) going to the Dobinson's MRR's. The MRR's ride so smooth on road and off. I know comparing a $1400 setup to a $3k setup isn't fair, but to be fair I have rode in a couple 6112/5160 setups which rode 100 times better than the 2R setup. If I would've went with the 6112/5160's in the first place, I do not believe I would've bought the mrr's. Thank you for what you guys do!
The stock Bilstein shocks on the Tacoma OR package (2nd gen) were absolute trash from what I remember. The back end would 'scatter dance' over any type of harsh surfaces on the highway, and felt like it could swing out. I was fortunate to get in on the $600 TRD Pro clearance sale, and upgraded to the Bilstein 6112 and 2" lift (in addition to the TSB 3+1 springs)...it was like night and day. Truck felt like it was built for comfort and for speed all in one package after installing that kit. Those stick shocks were endurance tested on a desert a while ago in someone else's channel, and I just remember how they said they were leaking after the test was done- they definitely are not intended for extended off road use.
I recently (2 weeks ago) emailed Bilstein about if the stock TRD OR shocks were 4600's (even though the body diameter is smaller on the OEM).. their answer was "They make the OEM shocks for the OEM at the spec that the OEM wants", so those shocks are Toyota's creation. I had the same issues with my stock TRD OR Bilsteins....they were cooked and weeping (I'm assuming they had boiled over) after 15 minutes of bombing fire roads in 85 to 90 degree weather.
Awesome job guys. Enjoyed this video very much. It was hilarious. 38 minute video didnt seem long at all with all the laughs. Keep up the good work. 😂👍
it would be helpful to go the same speed.... Going faster or slower on one shock vs the other isn't really fair. Maybe set the cruise control to a specific speed to be fairer and more consistent.
We hit the same section at the same speeds and worked our way up in 5-10km/h increments. Some shocks could not go faster, while others gave us the control we needed to be confident with more speed.
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If you enjoyed this series, we have our MID BUDGET blind test series coming out this summer! Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss it! Bilstein 6112, Ironman Foam Cell Pro, Fox TRD Pro, Falcon, Elka 2.0, Eibach Pro, Dobinsons MRR.
Spoiler alert Bilstein wins!
You guys should add the MT64s
You guys should add the MT64s in there
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Yall need to do this with a 4Runner as well! It looks like you guys like the front OME front but the rear shock is terrible. Explains a lot in my 4Runner.
These guys doing god’s work for the community! I would never expect 5100 to be this much better because the hearsay on the forums was “they ride stiff especially with no added weight”. Maybe true for a different truck with a different valving? IDK. Now what do you think about the spacer vs stock. Was it similar or worse? Again, thank you guys so much for doing this!
I think a lot of people end up running 5100's with aftermarket coils that they are not valved for and add way too much lift/preload/spring force, then complain about the ride.
The spacers were definitely worse than stock!
Yup it's exactly the case that OO said, a majority are running them with "upgraded" coils which ruins them. 6112 are offered in a heavy load variant for the 4r at least which includes heavier rate coils and the valve stack is completely different.
Very nice. So much to learn!
For my JLU with stock springs that I’m told will be softer than the big name, higher lifts, Metalcloak and Northridge 4x4 suggested them saying they will ride well with that spring/5100 considering my budget constraint.
@@OverlandOutfitters it's like 10-20% spring rate change requires updating valving. There is little to no documentation on shock recommended spring rates.
Man I love this series!!! Need more episodes need eibach2R vs 6112!!!!!! Keep it up
production quality was through the roof, not even bs'ing
Thanks for your patience guys! Some technical difficulties delayed us, but it was still Friday in Hawaii! Hope you enjoy it, we worked our butts off this time around!
Wish to have seen the fox 2.0 in this
Yeah I run the fox 2.0 on my 4runner
Same pretty unfortunate they didn't include it
The shock collars had me dieing😂
Holy crap! Did not expect that result! Good on Bilstein!!!!!!!
Bilstein was the first to really invest in R and D offroad and it really shows. They were testing at the Baja 1000 years before anybody else.
Would of love to see the bilstein 5100 vs the 6120 in this testing 37:55 @Overland Outfitters
Just put 5100's all the way around on my GMC. Really happy with their performance.
Great show boys!! I wish the 6112 was thrown in there but maybe in the future? Either way keep up the great work 🤘🏼
Mid budget will include the 6112. Stay tuned!
Most excited for this! Can’t wait to see the mid budget, as I think the 6112 will do great
@@OverlandOutfitterscan you throw in the Ironman Foam cells into that test as well??
@@TacomaJack09 they were included in that test
@@OverlandOutfitters Any estimate on when the mid budget video will be released? I imagine it takes a lot of work and time since you guys have to remove, install, remove, install, etc the shocks which can't be easy. No rush, I just love these comparison videos and am stoked for the 6112 since those are what I have on my taco.
Also, pls bring back the shock collars 😈
This channel is FANTASTIC and I am a NEW SUBSCRIBER!!!
I am an old off-roader (in my 70's) going back to the early days of BAJA with Mickey Thompson, Dick Cepek, Ivan "Ironman" Stewart and Phil Reusche (who I worked with).
Your content is dead on accurate and hopefully people will listen. BTW, I would like you to do a show on "Bump Stops".
Id like to see you guys go into more detail about the valving and spring rates. As well as discussing progressive and digressive valving if any of the coilovers were setup as such.
Get subscribed if you aren't already! We have deep dive videos on each setup coming out soon!
Love my 6112/5160 combo......
Have the same set up on 4th gen runner. Love em
I'm on 5100s I really think I'm gonna go with the 6112 and 5160s next too. I love the 5100s though they have been awesome.
Yup, this is what I have on my 4th Gen Taco. Big improvement over stock on or off road. Also added roadmaster active suspension, which helped even more.
Top notch work! Informative AND super hilarious. Really looking forward to the mid tier shootout w/ the 6112s.
One thing everyone needs to know is that if you have remote reservoirs, the valve shims and even the 10psi difference in the Nitrogen makes a huge difference. My kings are set to 150psi and its perfect. I have a buddy who and Fox 2.5 adjustable remote res. And his Nitrogen psi was jacked way to much and he had an absolute shit ride on his 2nd Gen Tacoma. After I dropped some psi his truck rode pretty Damn good.
I'd like to see the best of budget, mid and high go up against the highest of the high. Which may be your eventual plan, anyway. Something like ADS, fox elite etc
Awesome video. Gives great testament to how much Toyota has done with their stock suspension on the TRD trim levels. For most people you may not even need to do any changes to have a good time offroad.
Great video.
Why not include stock shocks in the blind test? Would be good to know if they were rated better than others.
Gotta do Episode for Heavy Duty trucks in 1500 2500 3500 series trucks 😅
Spring rate of each strut option would be great to know.
Great video! What coils are you running with the Bilstein 5100 shocks ?
Next time please change up your methodology as I noticed this video started producing a confirmation bias as everyone began remembering one as pretty good and four as pretty bad. To eliminate it, each test should vary up the numbers associated with the product
The guys testing the shocks and actually getting shocked at the end are great sports going through this! Great review and testing! Loved this episode!
I have always been impressed with Bilstein have had them on dozens of vehicles for 10 plus years Never Exspected them to be close to fox 2.5 on some of the test i am impressed that Bilstein is on top 30:06 @Overland Outfitters
also, you are doing a torture testing not only on the shocks but also on your neck and throat with that collar.
I love this series. I think as an improvement you could have a grading system to be more precise than just ranking. Like score 1-5 based on a couple categories. 2 being stock, 1 worse than stock, 5 way better than stock.
Thought the same
Kinda sad to see dobinson do so bad. Always had high regard for that company wonder if they’re resi models perform compared to the kings 8112… etc
Holy crap at Whoops section with the jump on Setup 6 thst got Squirrely real Quick 28:40 @Overland Outfitters
It wasn't mentioned in the video I think but we're all the same spring rates used and we're they all the same as the stock rate?
It looks like aftermarket springs were used on each shock but would nice to confirm that.
Thanks! Great series to watch!
I think each comes with the factory recommended spring. I know that Bilstein tests and configures for each vehicle they have a kit for.
Buy once and cry once. I bought Kings stage 4A from AccuTune and zero regrets. If you can afford it then getr done. If you can't then you will still have fun with lower quality ones don't worry. I had fun with my stock bilstein 4600s on Tacoma TRD Off road
How much of a lift did that give?
I'm looking for a similar set up for my 4runner
@@gabboGABBOGABBOOO with 2.75 is what they recommend with 33s it ends up being 3 Inch lift
Can you guys do the same tests on the Tacoma TRD Pro? I would like to see how it compares with all these shocks.
Get subscribed, as we test TRD pro shocks in our mid-budget test coming this fall!
Why no test on the performance elite?
I wanna see the fox 2.5 performance elite shocks with the dsc adjusted to your settings! I’m running those on my taco and I love them.
So im pretty much coming away with all if them are trash off road and the 5100 was 'acceptable'....jeez, if this translates some to the 4R then i have no idea what suspension i want to get. Thankfully they all feel thr same on pavement where i will be 90% of the time i guess...uhhg. great video and really appreciate all the effort but has turned all my research upsidedown on suspension!
5100s are great on my 04 with max height setting and daystar top spacer, rear coil spacer to level. If you have more weight up front get new front springs too.
This just reinforces my choice in the 5100s for my vehicles.
Me: Buys Bilstein 5100's for my 2nd gen yesterday... @OverlandOutfitters: Today we release Shock value season 2...
Haha, I bought mine from Ian litterally the day before they started the testing. I think he let me wait until he was done and said they're good to go.
😂😂 love the Intro warning guys to hilarious may contain Shock and Suspension 0:01 @Overland Outfitters
Thank you guys for your honest reviews. Love the collaboration between both side of the border 🇨🇦 🇺🇸👍🏻👍🏻
this is the best side to side review! now im really convinced that my 1 yr old set of 5100s are good good. thank you guys
9mm came from Germany, American's use 22, colt 45, 50 cal, 357, 370, 300, 22 250... but other that that, great video...
I have eibach stage 1 with spc utc's on my 4th gen 4Runner. I hit this one intersection by my house at 40mph, definite air and they land so smoothly. There must be a big difference between a tacoma and a 4Runner off road. Rear leafs vs. rear coils 🤷♂️
Would like to see the Ironman foam cell pros on here. Awesome work!
Wow such different results than my own. The Dobinsons are way more plush than any Bilsteins i have ran on my 18 Tacoma. They didn’t say how much preload they were running or what position on the circlips which plays a big part.
Yea I was so confused by this. Dobinsons are by and large more preferred over 5100s for their relative plushness.
I have Dobinsons IMS on my 4Runner and in all aspects huge improvement over the factory XREAS suspension imo, on and off road. Less body roll, not too firm, off road I feel planted, I do mostly beach driving, the beach can be rough in terms of terrain, not all smooth sand many dips and precious tire tracks.
That's a bizarre result for dobs, did they spec the wrong springs and/or preload them way too much?
@@rossipremier sometimes the unbiased truth is hard to accept haha. I highly doubt these 2 very knowledgeable guys would've ran the wrong spring and/or preloaded them "way too much"
Incredible video guys. As everyone else is saying - the production quality of this video is absolutely top tier. Love y’all’s content!!
Loved the video! Did you guys use the stock rear leaf springs for all the shocks? One thing to consider is that some of the aftermarket shocks (I.E. OME) may be valved assuming they will be paired with the corresponding leaf springs. That could potentially explain the sketchiness of the OME rear shocks if they are tuned with excessive rebound dampening when paired with the stock leafs.
They said they just threw on add a leafs.
Lmao so looks like I’m going for bilstein5100 on my 07 tundra!!
I wonder if my 3” spacer lift has made my spring less desirable to pair a 5100 with , and I’m considering the eibach spring and rocking the 5100 at its lowest clip?
Anyone do that before and like the ride?
Sounds about right. I have 5100 with eibach pro truck coils on my gx470. The eibach springs are pretty supple and the bilstein wrangles em in. The 5100 s weakness are stiff slow speed damping like on bad city streets you feel the little bumps and on rock crawl they will toss your head side to side. I did pair mine with sumo springs bumpstops on all courners when the digressive valving falls off. I haven’t experienced topping out yet but i will probably get a limiting strap as extra insurance
The fact that test 1 and 4 were so similar even after Ian massaged number 4 is insane given the price difference. Great video y'all, improvement in every way over season 1. For S3 I'd like to see blind footwear reviews too, my money is on the flip flobsters.
To be fair, i only drilled 1 bleed hole. I was gonna make a video where i slowly fix them... those foxes now have the actual race series piston and much better valving and the text i got from the customer was its the best riding setup hes ever experienced. Fox has a great product, but bad valving.
Make a new series like this with NewRough Country Vertex, Fox Perfomance Elite, King, New Biletein B8 8112, Icon, OME BP-51 and maybe new Ride Shocks from ACCUTUNE Off-Road… please and thank you ❤❤🎉🎉
Where are Apache AX2!?
Love my Icon front 5160 rear hacked together budget setup. Works well. You should do rear shocks between Tacoma and 4runners! Shock length and show what happens with a shock damped for leafs on coils visa versa.
Im happy to hear/see this vid. Makes me feel awesome about the 5100s I have sitting here waiting to go on my first gen tundra. Cant wait!
Update. Installed on my truck and have been great so far.
One of the best suspension contents on the internet period. I now know I will stick to my tacomas stock suspension and when needed, upgrade to the 5100s
thank you!
lolol
Would love to see how the OME BP51s stack up against some other comparable shocks
Why run this test with the swaybar while last year’s was done without the swaybar?
We find that most people who run budget shocks tend to keep the swaybar. Also there was lots of feedback last year saying that we should have kept it. Finally, these shocks are tuned around having a swaybar, so it's the fairest way to test them
@@OverlandOutfitters^^^^this all day
Aren't most of these aftermarket shocks even in their lower-weight "stock" versions intended for overlanders with some additional weight day-to-day? (Bumpers, winch etc even if not loaded down) I'd be curious to see the same test with a couple hundred extra kilos in the back and a steel bumper on the front.
THIS IS HANDS DOWN MY NEW FAV YT VIDEO! Holy hell these guys are great!
I want to get a new suspension just to hang out with these dudes.
Sooo funny - SUB’d
Is an accelerometer in your budget?
Now.... Let's see how they do after 30K miles?
The ending was amazing 😂
What springs were they running on the 5100s?
I took my truck to some woops and the stock bilstein shocks collapsed then the dealer replaced them I was at 10000 miles. Then I went out again and took it easy on them and they bucled again. Wish I could attach photos or video I will never trust the oem stock TRD off road shocks again.
Wow - great test! The guys in my local 4WP store recommended Bilstein as a little better than Fox, especially considering the price difference, so they were definitely right. Kinda surprised that the Eibachs weren't better since their springs are usually highly rated.
Love this series, keep it up guys! Would love to see ADS in a future test too!!
Man, I feel bad for those dudes. Not only did they have to break their backs doing all of those tests, they then have to get shock collared for guessing the wrong brands? Damn, give those guys a raise!
Why doesn't anyone test the Rough Country Vertex 2.5 system with the reservoir front and back or the M1 series. I have been running them for quite sometime and never had any issues with them on and Off-Road and the ride quality to me are good.
The camera work and translation is borderline unbearable this is very hard to watch and why a wig and eyebrows looks ridiculous. Not going to be able to finish the vod.
That was a great shock shootout. Keeping the testers from knowing which shock they were testing was a nice addition. Shock collars for the win!
Subscribed! Looking for shocks, came away with laughs.
What springs are you running for the 5100s?
Nice test, but the test seems to be more focused on baja than overlanding.
The amount of work you guys put into these is incredible... Amazing work.
How do they talk so well during the testing with the ome but when the ranking comes in it's they tried to kill them? Definitely conflicting.
thank for this! big fan! enjoyed it. why was the 6112 not included?
They will be part of our mid budget series. Stay tuned!
@@OverlandOutfitters will you do the 5160s in the rear in junction with the 6112s?
Bet this is one heck of a shocking experience 😂😂 to hilarious at the end 34:47 @Overland Outfitters
Dude the fact you jumped a basically stock taco with 5100s and didnt grenade anything is a testimate to how solid the Tacoma is. We all run them here in Canada and theyre phenomenal
With the colored springs I thought they were testing Nitron Suspension.
What size bleed holes did you guys drill in the piston of those fox 2.5's?
LOL…more fun than my job. Even the shock collar part.
I wonder if the truck was loaded down with bumpers and sliders and winch if it would make a difference
Interesting. I think those Blistings are stock on 2020 Tundra Sports.
This is super useful for a lot of buyers!!!
I've had the fox 2.5s and was not impressed until I had them revealed. They should be better out of the box. Weirdly the fox 2.0s we're quite good and plush feeling on my Tundra, but very harsh on a 4Runner. It's like the vehicle formula they're using for the midsize segment is based on a 3000kg vehicle.
Thanks again!! Great content.
Very methodical yet fun test, I'm now subscribed to be on the lookout for the mid-grade test!
Did the spacer use bilstein 4600 shocks? they are supposedly valved the same or very similar as 5100s so did the spacer through off the geometry to make them perform worse?
That's what I was wondering as well. Internally there's no difference between the stock (TRD?) 4600 shocks and 5100s, except the shim stacks each uses. Both are digressive as well.
Good video. But the host in the fake wig and mustache bit was kinda meh.
I’m curious what springs the 5100s are paired with.
Very surprised on the Dobinson's. Coming from the Eibach stage 2R that rode absolutely terrible (put 20k miles on this setup) going to the Dobinson's MRR's. The MRR's ride so smooth on road and off. I know comparing a $1400 setup to a $3k setup isn't fair, but to be fair I have rode in a couple 6112/5160 setups which rode 100 times better than the 2R setup. If I would've went with the 6112/5160's in the first place, I do not believe I would've bought the mrr's. Thank you for what you guys do!
Do you like the ride of the 6112 over the MMR? I’m having this debate on a 460
@@scholotzkys395 Definitely prefer the mrr's over the 6112's.
The stock Bilstein shocks on the Tacoma OR package (2nd gen) were absolute trash from what I remember. The back end would 'scatter dance' over any type of harsh surfaces on the highway, and felt like it could swing out. I was fortunate to get in on the $600 TRD Pro clearance sale, and upgraded to the Bilstein 6112 and 2" lift (in addition to the TSB 3+1 springs)...it was like night and day. Truck felt like it was built for comfort and for speed all in one package after installing that kit.
Those stick shocks were endurance tested on a desert a while ago in someone else's channel, and I just remember how they said they were leaking after the test was done- they definitely are not intended for extended off road use.
I recently (2 weeks ago) emailed Bilstein about if the stock TRD OR shocks were 4600's (even though the body diameter is smaller on the OEM).. their answer was "They make the OEM shocks for the OEM at the spec that the OEM wants", so those shocks are Toyota's creation. I had the same issues with my stock TRD OR Bilsteins....they were cooked and weeping (I'm assuming they had boiled over) after 15 minutes of bombing fire roads in 85 to 90 degree weather.
Fox 2.0 and 6112s wouldn't have been nice .
What is the price range of "mid-budget"? :D
I'm dying here with the shocks. BTW the best testing I have seen and i have tried a few and just went with Bilstein res on my Gladiator .
Holy shit, how expensive was your chiropractor visit after this?
Great job! Would be great to see the Fox TrdPro bypass shocks in a future test of more expensive shocks.
Coming soon 😉🫡
Im curious as well, but ive got the Tundra version that Ive had serviced but havent installed yet.
I have the 5100 with king springs love it
Great video, thank you for the content.
Awesome job guys. Enjoyed this video very much. It was hilarious. 38 minute video didnt seem long at all with all the laughs. Keep up the good work. 😂👍
I wonder how the new ARB MT64 compares?
The shocking revelation was too funny
it would be helpful to go the same speed.... Going faster or slower on one shock vs the other isn't really fair. Maybe set the cruise control to a specific speed to be fairer and more consistent.
We hit the same section at the same speeds and worked our way up in 5-10km/h increments. Some shocks could not go faster, while others gave us the control we needed to be confident with more speed.
Old man emu, isn't that what's on the new trailhunter?