Fabio, i fkin love you dude! This is absolutely insane! 5800x + 7900XTX user here, playing 4k resolution. The only game where i had huge problems with stuttering was Farming Simulator 2022, in Silverrun Forrest Map especially where there were lots and lots of trees. Couldn't get past 60 fps no matter what, with drops to 30 happening a lot, CPU hovering at 20% use, GPU usage never going over 60%, it was unplayable and i couldn't understand why since FS22 is a shitty game, poorly optimized indeed but still... So I disabled core isolation and the FPS on that map jumped to 120. Double than before! And it's a joy to play now. I can't believe it! You made my day sir and you made me love my AMD setup again. Thank you Fabio!
Exactly. I disabled mine too to have my computer working as it should. All other youtubers pretend that core isolation does not affect gaming but they are wrong
@@AncientGameplays fabio i keep losing fps (or maybe having more than my monitor can show) whenever i CLOSE the fps counter (crtl shift o) wtf is up with that? cheers man
What a legend! Can confirm turning off memory integrity checking gave me at least a 6-7% increase in max fps potential on a heavily modded cyberpunk on my 7800x3d/4090 combo, but the real winner here is not the max/avg fps, it's the 1% lows and stutter reduction. Capping my fps to 60 used to still give me stutters in specific areas and scenarios, those are almost completely gone and my frame time graph is a thing of beauty now!
One thing that boosted mine MASSIVELY, I went from 70-90fps to 100-150 fps, look up how to completely disable xbox game bar. Not just disabling it where it's not on but clicking it off but completely disabling it from pretty much existing
Just did this in WoW with my R9 7900. Never thought this would have any impact but I was wrong. A solid 15 - 20 FPS + in Valdrakken where it's heavily CPU bound cause of player density. Nice one, TY
I noticed this fairly quickly after benching my new PC a few weeks back and noticing my setup got less score than identical setups. I disabled core isolation and immediately received the "Free PC Upgrade" achievement in 3dmark, my bench score jumping by ~15% e.g. in TimeSpy from 27k to 31k! Insane.
Windows 11 required TPM and virtualization and it was tanking performance in games. They also had issues with Ryzen. If you compare them both now on a modern machine you will not notice any difference however. This is especially true because windows 11 simply cannot be installed on old machines.
@@SirSomnolent the problem is most of the PC gamer are on Nvidia and it performs worse without windows because it has not been very open source. I saw news implying they were working with Linux recently however so this may be resolved now or in the near future.
Yup discovered that this was the reason my 8700k sucked now. after disabling my fps went up 15% to 100% in some games. Bf1 for instance weny from 100 to the max that the engine allows which is i think 200.
I saw the thumbnail and was like "how tf did this bs reach me? How did I sub to those channels". I immediately turned interested af after I've read the name of the channel lol, we all agree those "+20/30/40 FPS" optimization guides are shit, but yours are never click bait, keep it up Fabio!
The topic is not new. The German website Computerbase had already tested this for Windows 11. Microsoft itself published a Gaming Performance Guide for Windows 11 a year ago. What disabling Core Isolation involves. But it's good that you refreshed the topic with new comparison benchmarks. Thanks.
yeah, there are many issues especially with Windows, while playing games and changing volume from keyboard for speakers games just stutter, unless you are on a headset you use volume buttons without issues
Disabled it on my FX8350 (i know its old ) and it brought me around ~ 20 FPS in Mechwarrior Online, never thought that this feature cost performance if it isnt used.
I just did this with my R5 2600 as well especially since I don't use BlueStacks anymore or anything like that. Hopefully I get at least 10-20 more fps which will be godsent with this old CPU!
i ve been having a weird fps drop on one of my favorite games, and going into the bios and disabling virtualisation solved it. i ve been looking for a fix for a few months, im forever grateful to you. subscribed
That's crazy. Usually most of these "change settings to boost fps" videos are a load of nothing. But the fact that you can increase a card's performance by 30% is game changing!
I keep my cores isolated in the secret dungeon underneath my flat. They know that they can only have supper if they properly evaluate their life choices.
you can also check if virtualization is on or off on task manager, go to performance tab and select the cpu stats... it shows on bottom right if virtualization is on
Did this about a month ago while playing Helldivers 2 was Heavily CPU Bound , Went from avg 60 FPS (~50-70 % GPU util) to avg 80 FPS (~80-95% GPU util) RTX 4070 + Ryzen 7 5800x Also tweaked RAM slightly
If you want a nice benchmark in Assetto Corsa Competizione, get a Nordschleife Rain Replay with a massive amount of cars. (Requires the Nordschleife DLC though)
@@AncientGameplays I was pleasantly surprised to see it included! Many of the players of this game have opted for an X3D cpu as it seems the extra cache is enjoyed by the game engine. (Recently the Nordschleife track/dlc was released, but due to it's size and the possibility of running over 100 cars on track the framerates have dropped over there).
@@AncientGameplays the 24H Nordschleife is VERY taxing, I have to lower all my settings to not get stutters, especially near the pitlane, just for that track. In the base version of the game there's the Grand Prix version of the Nurburgring, recently they have released the endurance part (Nordschleife), which is the 20 and odd km one. Edit: in ACC there is a way to see other people PoV. After you press Drive, press Shift+Left/Right arrow key and you can see the other person's POV, so if you want to see the bots going around you can just stay in pits and watch them race.
If virtualization is shut off altogether like you did there's no need to worry about needing core isolation. It can always turned back on if or when its needed..
I think it is worth noting that virtualization is disable by default in bios. And I am pretty sure most people don't use it, so they don't have to worry about this.
@AncientGameplays so you are saying that with newer boards, it is enabled by default? Damn, I had my fare share of boards in the past, and it was always disabled by default. But since microsft needs it for this crap, it is not a surprise that the settings changed. I saw a bios update for my b450 had something about important security changes in update notes, so maybe they are turning it on by default like they did tpm.
I can confirm that this works. When I had just bought my RX 7600 I was playing at about 110-120 FPS, months later I noticed I was playing at 80-90 FPS the same game and with the same graphics settings. I thought maybe it was due to poorly optimized game/driver update (and some ignorant people would immediately blame AMD drivers) but after watching this video I remembered that Windows suggested me to enable the core isolation and so I did, now I disabled that option and the game performance went back to 110-120 FPS. Thank you so much!
I just turned this setting off and my performance in Helldivers 2 absolutely SKYROCKETED, it's an unbelievable difference in performance. I have been having severe performance problems in HD2, literally just fixed it. Glad I happened across this video, thanks man
You do know where Jesus was born right, Jesus wouldn't be white. He'd be black or brown. But the mainstream Catholic way he's depicted, yeah, you're spot on
Oh wow didn't even know this existed, thank you again for your teachings! :D W10 opened start menu, typed core isolation and found it inside system security settings. Was off for me. Never used hyper-v or such virtualization stuff. Learned about it first when searching around in BIOS/UEFI :D
I have never heard of this setting, amazing work. All these big big tech channels with so many employees and no mention on this topic, if they tested it, I didn't catch it.
Core isolation is one of those security features that have been known for a long time to affect gaming, but I didn't realize that it was now on by default. I believe it was one of those features that was in response to the Specter and Melt-down vulnerabilities, but I'm not even sure those vulnerabilities were even exploited in the wild.
I missed a graph comparing synthetic benchmarks, like CineBench, for example. I'm going to try out your tip in a game I play a lot and which has a huge CPU bottleneck, which is Squad. Anyway, excellent video as always, Fábio!
Thank You for this video! It was very informative. That's one of the reasons I use Custom Windows! So many unnecessary (for us) things on windows! There are others, like: Telemetry, it slows down your PC considerably too!
i redownloaded a game to play with friends and i was suddenly shocked when my fps was significantly lower using the same settings. finally figured out the issue through this video
Thanks for another helpful video. I used to know every little setting when I worked in IT but not anymore so it's always fun to learn these things again. Checked in windows and it couldn't open the page and i assume that means it's off in the BIOS and i actually am still pretty good. lol
Thanks for the info! Was excited to see if I could squeeze anything out my rig, but had it off already xD Might tinker with it later when I have time just to see if I perform worse with off.
I LOVE YOU. I am so happy I stumbled upon this video. Linus Tech Tips needs to hear about this and popularize this, my FPS went up by 100. I feel like if I just got a new pc. I remember, when I first got my PC I had 400-500+ FPS in range in valorant, but after a while I had only 300. Turns out it was bc of virtualization, as I installed Visual Studio Code for schoolwork, which needed virtualization. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!
Man as soon as I heard that virtualization needed to be off I knew I was fucked since I often work with VMs, but if this actually works even by keeping virtualization on you are a hero
Interesting find, I wonder how this setting may impact the performance of some VR games, like VRChat, since that one is especially heavy on the CPU in some worlds.
bro i must thank you sooo much for this info ,,, i had some frame drops and stutters even thought the svm was disabled from my mother board .. but after i enabled the svm and then disabling the coreisolation setting my pc performance went crazy .. no frame drops no stutters and i feel like my pc run in full power .. thank you so much bro
and let me thank you again before this option i couldenot OC my gpu more than 2740 mhz and the pc crash .. now i tried 2800hz it works like butter ,, idk if all this change is possible from this simple option but it worked for me
You know what would also help? If developers actually optimized their games. No, seriously. Computers get faster and faster and devs get lazier and lazier with bloat, thinking the extra memory and stuff will take care of it. Computers are the fastest they've ever been and what's the trending feature people want to use and have supported? Downscaling their game and playing at a lower resolution and masking it with AI upscaling. Computers are really powerful, we should be able to use native resolutions with little to no issues. The fact that expensive RTX supercomputers nowadays sometimes have to go as low as 720p (and again, masking it by upscale it) to get stable framerates is really saddening. That's probably why games are hundreds of GB, because of tons of HUGE, uncompressed textures and high-poly assets that are that way just for the sake of fidelity, even though you could get the exact same results with less. All the shaders, material and model features in game engines that we've had for the past decade or so are specifically-designed so that we don't HAVE to be so extreme with our detail. Like instead of modeling the individual pores of someone's face, using normal maps, smooth shading, and optimized lighting techniques to get the same thing so the computer doesn't have to work as hard. Or instead of dynamically raytracing the entire map, using baked pre-rendered lighting that has everything already calculated ahead of time. That sorta stuff. Forza Horizon 4 is a great example. It's super photorealistic, yet optimized SO well that my mid-range PC can max it with no issues at all. Lighting techniques, models and shaders are detailed yet do it in a way that doesn't melt your computer by using as many efficient techniques as possible and getting rid of any unnecessary bloat. Meanwhile some games today are equal in visual quality, or sometimes even worse, yet run like hot garbage because everything's so unnecessarily computational.
WOW! Thank you!!! Immediate difference noticed! EDIT: Just wanted to add that I saw the difference in the funniest things - like Mafia 2 running better, Quake 4 running better. Things like Doom 2016 already ran like butter on my system, but older games seemed to really draw differently from the gpu/cpu, very interesting!
Ty Fabio,here is another tip to get more fps go to start,click device manager,click system devices,click high precision event timer and disable,restart,6 out of 10 games you will see better numbers this works well on W10, I tried it on w11 too but the performance increase is moving to the statistical error without this meaning that there won't be games that benefit from the newest operating system,in general those who play games, disable virtualization, high precision event timer, set priority above normal or high and you will see an increase in performance.
Virtualization based security has always hindered fps but it has gotten better. It used to be a lot worse. However, VBS has significantly improved the security of the OS. Hopefully, they will get it even closer with newer versions.
I am going to try this later. I am getting nasty stutter whenever I teleport to another area in Genshin with my 5700X3D. I wish I left my PC on Windows 10. The stutter I get after the upgrade is annoying.
@@AncientGameplays I desperately need a clean install. I initially installed Windows 10 on this machine in January 2020. Since then, I kept updating, ran the Windows 11 update back about a month ago, and have changed the GPU twice, changed the CPU a month ago, and on my third monitor upgrade since then. The Samsung 970 EVO nvme is still giving me the same speeds in CrystalMark as it gave me when it was new and the Samsung Magician software shows it is in good health with good temps. Waiting for my GPU to come back from an RMA I have sent it out for.
I always disable anything Windows Defender related whenever I install Windows, exactly because of this. You never know what kind of setting is enabled for absolutely no reason which can affect gaming performance or the performance of your entire PC in some cases. I usually never get any malware so I don't need any anti-virus.
Much the same here, the most I use is 1.1.1.2 DNS resolving, because it blocks mal sites, and a firewall using portmaster. Can't get viruses if the places that have them are blocked, along with me just not being an idiot when downloading, clicking, or visiting sites. Plus portmaster blocks specific CDNs of common sites, programs, etc. So it's good for being a system wide adblock. (and when not on windows, well then nobara linux be doing the job just fine) (as for windows changing your settings and such, id recommend checking out christitustech and his windows debloat program, as well as O&O shut up to get windows to stop calling home and making changes so often) Yeah doing all these little config changes is why I barely touch windows now, too much work.
I wouldn't say it's enabled for absolutely no reason. What core isolation does is that it divides important processes in the PC's memory. Now where this plays a big part is in security, by isolating important pc memory processes malicious code has harder time spreading through your pc. Good security is like a good psu, you don't want to skip on it. I'd say that a small performance hit is always better than having your PC being infected as hackers have been getting quite creative and the issues may be coming from things you can't quite affect or expect, like the case with Apex Legends getting hacked and spreading malware.
@@DrunkenJoeh If you want security, use virtual machines on Linux and isolate your gaming environment from anything else. But that's not feasible for most people because of their specs. My point is, Windows has absolutely nothing to do with security. Malware can easily get past Windows Defender, and even with Core Isolation turned on, you can't do anything about it. I have done some RAT work myself and I can get past most AVs lmao. A digital signature is enough to stop the AVs from raising suspicion, and a RAT done properly that uses exploits to leverage permissions will be unstoppable by Defender. TL;DR, all Windows does is slow down your PC for the sake of saying it's protecting your PC. Sure it may protect you from regular malware, but that's the user's fault and if you're smart about the sources you download from and what you run on your computer, you don't need any protection. What we need protection from is exploits. Those need patches done by Microsoft, not Windows Defender or Core Isolation.
Fabio, i fkin love you dude! This is absolutely insane! 5800x + 7900XTX user here, playing 4k resolution. The only game where i had huge problems with stuttering was Farming Simulator 2022, in Silverrun Forrest Map especially where there were lots and lots of trees. Couldn't get past 60 fps no matter what, with drops to 30 happening a lot, CPU hovering at 20% use, GPU usage never going over 60%, it was unplayable and i couldn't understand why since FS22 is a shitty game, poorly optimized indeed but still... So I disabled core isolation and the FPS on that map jumped to 120. Double than before! And it's a joy to play now. I can't believe it! You made my day sir and you made me love my AMD setup again. Thank you Fabio!
Glad I could help!
You owe him at least 300 bucks. 5 bucks/frame.
What game is it at the end looks fun
Exactly. I disabled mine too to have my computer working as it should. All other youtubers pretend that core isolation does not affect gaming but they are wrong
I freaking hate when MS forces those security settings I don't need because in already secure enough.
Friends don't let friends be robbed of FPS.
true hahaha
@@AncientGameplays fabio i keep losing fps (or maybe having more than my monitor can show) whenever i CLOSE the fps counter (crtl shift o)
wtf is up with that? cheers man
Unless trolling them makes you lough 😂
@@Soap010 try using vsync and see your experience. Also, most monitors nowadays show you your current refresh rate.
Buy me a 4090, friend
What a legend! Can confirm turning off memory integrity checking gave me at least a 6-7% increase in max fps potential on a heavily modded cyberpunk on my 7800x3d/4090 combo, but the real winner here is not the max/avg fps, it's the 1% lows and stutter reduction. Capping my fps to 60 used to still give me stutters in specific areas and scenarios, those are almost completely gone and my frame time graph is a thing of beauty now!
And what exactly did you do? Deactivate what in specific?
@@RewindTraps Memory integrity checking, as Fabio just showed you.
windows sucks so bad i wish they revert their crappy changes to windows 10.
@@H786... haha, I am on Windows 10 and it sucks too, Direct X timeouts
It may be a thing of beauty, I know, but will it never fade away?
thank you so much!
i knew something was holding back my celeron g3900 and intel hd 510 build!
i am sure this will fix all of my performance issues!
XD
😭😭🙏 not me with a entry level gpu from 6 years ago aproximately
Now you can run games in Native 4K 120fps 💀
@NFYT the GTX 1080 Ti 11GB is 7 years old and it's equal to the RTX 3060 8GB
One thing that boosted mine MASSIVELY, I went from 70-90fps to 100-150 fps, look up how to completely disable xbox game bar. Not just disabling it where it's not on but clicking it off but completely disabling it from pretty much existing
Will try,Ty.
but I like to use Xbox game bar to record clips...🥺😭I think I should swap to Nvidia shadowplay
Or just uninstall the damn program❤😂
@@Axelux99use obs
@@cidbaas5827lmao good joke
Just did this in WoW with my R9 7900. Never thought this would have any impact but I was wrong. A solid 15 - 20 FPS + in Valdrakken where it's heavily CPU bound cause of player density.
Nice one, TY
Great, overall, security should be no issue too
I noticed this fairly quickly after benching my new PC a few weeks back and noticing my setup got less score than identical setups. I disabled core isolation and immediately received the "Free PC Upgrade" achievement in 3dmark, my bench score jumping by ~15% e.g. in TimeSpy from 27k to 31k! Insane.
Between Windows and Next Gen games we are just losing performance for no reason.
This is why windows 11 bad started but it’s eventually stopped
@@quintrapnell3605 explain? windows 11 is better for gaming than win10?
Windows 11 required TPM and virtualization and it was tanking performance in games. They also had issues with Ryzen. If you compare them both now on a modern machine you will not notice any difference however. This is especially true because windows 11 simply cannot be installed on old machines.
I just use proton on linux these days. I'm sure there are some anticheat hazards still but I've not run into any problems yet.
@@SirSomnolent the problem is most of the PC gamer are on Nvidia and it performs worse without windows because it has not been very open source. I saw news implying they were working with Linux recently however so this may be resolved now or in the near future.
> while this video will be short
> 16 minutes
Aight fabio. xD
hahah, the benchmark parts were short compared to what I usually do haha
It's 15:50. It's kinda short when you talk about tech. And it feels like he could speak alot more. And not empty words.
@@metalhead2476 *a lot
"alot" isn't a word
@@GrainGrownyou are so intelligent 🧠🧠🧠 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@troncat8490 ...
Had it disabled already apparently, but thank you for the heads up. If I ever clean reinstall I'll keep it in mind!
Bro that guys finger was going 🌪️
hahahah
The ladies love him
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He's the one your ex chose 😄
As usual, hope you guys find this helpful and that you can actually achieve higher FPS & better smoothness!
Yup discovered that this was the reason my 8700k sucked now. after disabling my fps went up 15% to 100% in some games. Bf1 for instance weny from 100 to the max that the engine allows which is i think 200.
@@arcticblast702 damn, so your FPS got straight up crippled. Sheeeeesh
Thank you for the tech tips Mr.Fabio
So I disabled core virtualization and now windows 11 freezes on login. Getting memory errors now
What i would recommend for some Ryzen cpus Power Supply Idle Control set to typical especially if undervolting cpu
I saw the thumbnail and was like "how tf did this bs reach me? How did I sub to those channels".
I immediately turned interested af after I've read the name of the channel lol, we all agree those "+20/30/40 FPS" optimization guides are shit, but yours are never click bait, keep it up Fabio!
Glad to have your trust!
The topic is not new. The German website Computerbase had already tested this for Windows 11. Microsoft itself published a Gaming Performance Guide for Windows 11 a year ago. What disabling Core Isolation involves. But it's good that you refreshed the topic with new comparison benchmarks. Thanks.
Yeah, I did it over a year ago, and now I am remaking it as it came to my attention once more
I have read now if u turn the feature with hardwqre enforced on it almost loses no fps, do you know if its true?
@@vik4130 it's gotten better but it still has a small effect on fps. Bigger in some games.
yeah, there are many issues especially with Windows, while playing games and changing volume from keyboard for speakers games just stutter, unless you are on a headset you use volume buttons without issues
Disabled it on my FX8350 (i know its old ) and it brought me around ~ 20 FPS in Mechwarrior Online, never thought that this feature cost performance if it isnt used.
Great to hear!
I just did this with my R5 2600 as well especially since I don't use BlueStacks anymore or anything like that.
Hopefully I get at least 10-20 more fps which will be godsent with this old CPU!
Lol, why you install win 11 on that old era dinosaur CPU
What do you mean by if it isn't used. When it's on it IS being used systemwide
@@Vitis-n2v but in my world its a Feature i can enable but its only used if i do some virtualisation stuff like Virtual Box …
i ve been having a weird fps drop on one of my favorite games, and going into the bios and disabling virtualisation solved it. i ve been looking for a fix for a few months, im forever grateful to you. subscribed
Great to help. Lay an eye on my video section 💪
Even if the gains are small, having a more stable and less stuttery experience is always a must for me
This tweak helped a lot with Dragon's Dogma 2... so I went and just disabled SVT altogether. Game is running better than ever. Thanks, man!
That's crazy. Usually most of these "change settings to boost fps" videos are a load of nothing. But the fact that you can increase a card's performance by 30% is game changing!
Yeah wtf how has noone talked about this?
@@ActNasty5 my fps in warzone went from 90 on average to 110-130. fucking insane
„Disable virtualization from bios” was the first thing I did after building a new PC 15 years ago
I keep my cores isolated in the secret dungeon underneath my flat. They know that they can only have supper if they properly evaluate their life choices.
😂😂💪
lmfao
Wow you went straight to the point, great TH-camr
thanks
you can also check if virtualization is on or off on task manager, go to performance tab and select the cpu stats... it shows on bottom right if virtualization is on
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Should I turn it off or on?
@@josephbaptista3950 off according to the video
@@mopground does that turn off memory integrity too i did not get it right
I have been telling people this for so long now.
Thank you for making a video about it.
People cannot progress if they do not know.
Super useful , no-nonsense videos as always bro. Keep up the good work
Thanks!
Did this about a month ago while playing Helldivers 2 was Heavily CPU Bound ,
Went from avg 60 FPS (~50-70 % GPU util) to avg 80 FPS (~80-95% GPU util)
RTX 4070 + Ryzen 7 5800x
Also tweaked RAM slightly
Huge FPS bump indeed
Fabio never leaves a tiny bit of performance tweak, always gotta let us know. What a boss
I just turned off the core isolation and I immediately see an increase in fps! I’m glad I found this video thank you 🙏
If you want a nice benchmark in Assetto Corsa Competizione, get a Nordschleife Rain Replay with a massive amount of cars. (Requires the Nordschleife DLC though)
I tested with the max amount of cars I could in a german track. I started adding assetto now as people requested it
@@AncientGameplays I was pleasantly surprised to see it included! Many of the players of this game have opted for an X3D cpu as it seems the extra cache is enjoyed by the game engine.
(Recently the Nordschleife track/dlc was released, but due to it's size and the possibility of running over 100 cars on track the framerates have dropped over there).
@@AncientGameplays the 24H Nordschleife is VERY taxing, I have to lower all my settings to not get stutters, especially near the pitlane, just for that track. In the base version of the game there's the Grand Prix version of the Nurburgring, recently they have released the endurance part (Nordschleife), which is the 20 and odd km one.
Edit: in ACC there is a way to see other people PoV. After you press Drive, press Shift+Left/Right arrow key and you can see the other person's POV, so if you want to see the bots going around you can just stay in pits and watch them race.
If virtualization is shut off altogether like you did there's no need to worry about needing core isolation. It can always turned back on if or when its needed..
I think it is worth noting that virtualization is disable by default in bios. And I am pretty sure most people don't use it, so they don't have to worry about this.
Actually that only happens on recent am4 bios I believe, my am5 had it on and so did my 12600K
@AncientGameplays so you are saying that with newer boards, it is enabled by default? Damn, I had my fare share of boards in the past, and it was always disabled by default. But since microsft needs it for this crap, it is not a surprise that the settings changed. I saw a bios update for my b450 had something about important security changes in update notes, so maybe they are turning it on by default like they did tpm.
@@brzimtrco6142 I believe he said the exact opposite. You'll have ask him again to be sure, though.
@@brzimtrco6142 bro mine is turned off by default in windows, should I check the bios too?
Mine was disabled in windows settings, but it was turned on in bios.
Thank you. I hadnt even realised and as someone who uses an Android emulator, this had stealth turned on. Getting much nicer FPS ❤️
When your favorite TH-camr uploads on your lunch break 😎
That's great hahaha, thanks!
I can confirm that this works. When I had just bought my RX 7600 I was playing at about 110-120 FPS, months later I noticed I was playing at 80-90 FPS the same game and with the same graphics settings. I thought maybe it was due to poorly optimized game/driver update (and some ignorant people would immediately blame AMD drivers) but after watching this video I remembered that Windows suggested me to enable the core isolation and so I did, now I disabled that option and the game performance went back to 110-120 FPS. Thank you so much!
Absolute legend. You just got yourself a new subscriber
thanks2, you can play it if youre interested, there are crysis 1, 2 , 3 remastered w raytracing options
I just turned this setting off and my performance in Helldivers 2 absolutely SKYROCKETED, it's an unbelievable difference in performance. I have been having severe performance problems in HD2, literally just fixed it. Glad I happened across this video, thanks man
Great!!
Europe tech Jesus, thanks for the video, great work :D Eres un Grande :D
Thanks! Abraço
Day 1 of asking if you are Jesus
Looks like Jesus, sounds like Chrstoph Waltz. A damn good mix IMO!
He's just an AMD and tech pro 🗣️🔥God is God, ancient gameplays is ancient gameplays.
AMD Jesus
No way bro ancient is my god u suck 😂
You do know where Jesus was born right, Jesus wouldn't be white. He'd be black or brown. But the mainstream Catholic way he's depicted, yeah, you're spot on
Fabio you are becoming one of my go to pc content providers. Tgank you and keep up the great content
Thank you as well. Abraço
Oh wow didn't even know this existed, thank you again for your teachings! :D W10 opened start menu, typed core isolation and found it inside system security settings. Was off for me. Never used hyper-v or such virtualization stuff. Learned about it first when searching around in BIOS/UEFI :D
Obregato! For doing Assetto Corsa and Racing simulators! I don't see this on most benchmarking tests.
subscribed because of the solid not-well known fps tweak- disabled memory integrity thank you!
Lay an eye on my video section ;)
thanks moist critical! this helped!
I have never heard of this setting, amazing work.
All these big big tech channels with so many employees and no mention on this topic, if they tested it, I didn't catch it.
Perfect video to come out as im puttin together my 7800x3d build lol! Good video as always
great haha
Core isolation is one of those security features that have been known for a long time to affect gaming, but I didn't realize that it was now on by default. I believe it was one of those features that was in response to the Specter and Melt-down vulnerabilities, but I'm not even sure those vulnerabilities were even exploited in the wild.
I missed a graph comparing synthetic benchmarks, like CineBench, for example.
I'm going to try out your tip in a game I play a lot and which has a huge CPU bottleneck, which is Squad.
Anyway, excellent video as always, Fábio!
Thank You for this video! It was very informative. That's one of the reasons I use Custom Windows! So many unnecessary (for us) things on windows! There are others, like: Telemetry, it slows down your PC considerably too!
This sounds fantastic! But I'm not near my computer and I will probably forget about this so I'm just leaving this here as a reminder. Hi, future me!
Never clicked on a setting so fast! Thank you Computer Jesus! 🙏
0:03 the flash whipping eggs 😂
i redownloaded a game to play with friends and i was suddenly shocked when my fps was significantly lower using the same settings. finally figured out the issue through this video
Thanks for another helpful video.
I used to know every little setting when I worked in IT but not anymore so it's always fun to learn these things again.
Checked in windows and it couldn't open the page and i assume that means it's off in the BIOS and i actually am still pretty good. lol
Yeah, that's it exactly, you're good haha
Thanks over 20 fps more on Destiny 2 13700f with Nvidia 4070. You gain a new sub.
Great!
Thanks for the info! Was excited to see if I could squeeze anything out my rig, but had it off already xD Might tinker with it later when I have time just to see if I perform worse with off.
I LOVE YOU. I am so happy I stumbled upon this video. Linus Tech Tips needs to hear about this and popularize this, my FPS went up by 100. I feel like if I just got a new pc. I remember, when I first got my PC I had 400-500+ FPS in range in valorant, but after a while I had only 300. Turns out it was bc of virtualization, as I installed Visual Studio Code for schoolwork, which needed virtualization. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!
Man as soon as I heard that virtualization needed to be off I knew I was fucked since I often work with VMs, but if this actually works even by keeping virtualization on you are a hero
it does
I can't believe how big the difference is in some games, wow, great video
Indeed, and in some builds might be even more
I did the same thing when Vondel was brand new on the 13900K and can confirm that it gave back about 20 FPS in that title
Okay now that's a huge discovering
Nah, just something I needed to share
@@AncientGameplays I mean, this performance increase can be massive, it's a big deal for budget gamers !
You know what else is huge, your mom
Nice to see someone actually benchmark this setting.
ThioJoe did it long ago
Interesting find, I wonder how this setting may impact the performance of some VR games, like VRChat, since that one is especially heavy on the CPU in some worlds.
This is something I wonder too. How much of a difference will this make in VRChat in VR (along with other VR games)
bro i must thank you sooo much for this info ,,, i had some frame drops and stutters even thought the svm was disabled from my mother board .. but after i enabled the svm and then disabling the coreisolation setting my pc performance went crazy .. no frame drops no stutters and i feel like my pc run in full power .. thank you so much bro
and let me thank you again before this option i couldenot OC my gpu more than 2740 mhz and the pc crash .. now i tried 2800hz it works like butter ,, idk if all this change is possible from this simple option but it worked for me
You know what would also help? If developers actually optimized their games. No, seriously. Computers get faster and faster and devs get lazier and lazier with bloat, thinking the extra memory and stuff will take care of it. Computers are the fastest they've ever been and what's the trending feature people want to use and have supported? Downscaling their game and playing at a lower resolution and masking it with AI upscaling. Computers are really powerful, we should be able to use native resolutions with little to no issues. The fact that expensive RTX supercomputers nowadays sometimes have to go as low as 720p (and again, masking it by upscale it) to get stable framerates is really saddening.
That's probably why games are hundreds of GB, because of tons of HUGE, uncompressed textures and high-poly assets that are that way just for the sake of fidelity, even though you could get the exact same results with less.
All the shaders, material and model features in game engines that we've had for the past decade or so are specifically-designed so that we don't HAVE to be so extreme with our detail. Like instead of modeling the individual pores of someone's face, using normal maps, smooth shading, and optimized lighting techniques to get the same thing so the computer doesn't have to work as hard. Or instead of dynamically raytracing the entire map, using baked pre-rendered lighting that has everything already calculated ahead of time. That sorta stuff.
Forza Horizon 4 is a great example. It's super photorealistic, yet optimized SO well that my mid-range PC can max it with no issues at all. Lighting techniques, models and shaders are detailed yet do it in a way that doesn't melt your computer by using as many efficient techniques as possible and getting rid of any unnecessary bloat. Meanwhile some games today are equal in visual quality, or sometimes even worse, yet run like hot garbage because everything's so unnecessarily computational.
well said.
Nice tip dude! Gonna try it with my 9900K/1080 combo.
Thank you so much ❤ brother it's very helpful
WOW! Thank you!!! Immediate difference noticed! EDIT: Just wanted to add that I saw the difference in the funniest things - like Mafia 2 running better, Quake 4 running better. Things like Doom 2016 already ran like butter on my system, but older games seemed to really draw differently from the gpu/cpu, very interesting!
Thank you as well
Mine was already off.
Good to know in any case.
Cheers mate!
Will add this to my win optimization routine. Since I have a gaming dedicated rig, I don't care about security. 😜
Ótima dica Fábio!
Você é o melhor 🤜🤛
Ty Fabio,here is another tip to get more fps go to start,click device manager,click system devices,click high precision event timer and disable,restart,6 out of 10 games you will see better numbers this works well on W10, I tried it on w11 too but the performance increase is moving to the statistical error without this meaning that there won't be games that benefit from the newest operating system,in general those who play games, disable virtualization, high precision event timer, set priority above normal or high and you will see an increase in performance.
Core isolation page not available on my 5800X3D!!!Is there something wrong?
It means you have virtualization disabled on BIOS and are already at the max FPS you can get, which is GOOD!
@@AncientGameplays Same for mine, glad to know my 5800X3D is being pushed to the max properly. As always, great vid Fabio!
@@SpainSpace Thank you!
@@AncientGameplays Thank you, man!You're the best!!!
Yup on regular 5800X it's also off by default.
That's something i suspected but never checked thanks for the informative video. My pc was with virtualisation enabled by default... 😂
It hurts my soul to see dents in the dust caps of the speakers in the background…
Chill
@@AncientGameplays I could give you instructions on how to remove dents from your dust caps.
@@AncientGameplays wdym chill? He's true
Virtualization based security has always hindered fps but it has gotten better. It used to be a lot worse. However, VBS has significantly improved the security of the OS. Hopefully, they will get it even closer with newer versions.
Miss the result with 7800X3D 😢
True, but didn't have it on the PC right now
dude thank you so much, this provided smoother gameplay and looks even better thank you!
Great!
I am going to try this later. I am getting nasty stutter whenever I teleport to another area in Genshin with my 5700X3D. I wish I left my PC on Windows 10. The stutter I get after the upgrade is annoying.
If you haven't clean installed windows you should. Also, check your hard drives
@@AncientGameplays I desperately need a clean install. I initially installed Windows 10 on this machine in January 2020. Since then, I kept updating, ran the Windows 11 update back about a month ago, and have changed the GPU twice, changed the CPU a month ago, and on my third monitor upgrade since then. The Samsung 970 EVO nvme is still giving me the same speeds in CrystalMark as it gave me when it was new and the Samsung Magician software shows it is in good health with good temps. Waiting for my GPU to come back from an RMA I have sent it out for.
Shared this with my gaming squad. Thank you 🎉
Niiiiiice!!!!!! Good find!
Will try it. I run MSFS exclusively. No other games, and a gaming pc only. As we know, msfs is BRUTAL on pc systems.
Mine core isolation is already disabled when I checked, which is sad news 🤣
Well, actually good ones haha
Are you Italian? I allways watch your videos since i built my pc in march 2023 with AMD components and you never disappoint, sei un grande
Jesus be praised
I found this feature a while ago. Logitech keyboard, camera and mouse drivers were preventing Core Isolation from turning on.
Good
Dang it mine was already off😢
well, other people found this out a long time ago, its been known for a while, but i guess its never bad to spread some awareness
Exactly the point
Jesus Christ of technology 😂😂❤
Welcome to my channel haha
@@AncientGameplays My pleasure
Fabio….. The real Tech Jesus ❤
Now, make a video how to best optimise windows for gaming.
top demais, mano!
Obrigado, um abraço!
Thank you soo much. I forgot about this setting and it was affecting me
Thanks AMD Jesus 🎉❤
Ryzen 9 5900X + RTX 4080 Super I noticed a HUGE change in FPS. Thanks!
subarashi
What a legend!! This helped massively!!
>Slower CPU
>tests a 12600K👍
12600K is slower, actually it isn't even that fast compared to lower end CPUs nowadays like the 5700X3D
id say its a slower cpu as well
@@AncientGameplays my bad i miss understood it
Interesting, I will have to remember to test this any time I have lower than expected framerates.
I always disable anything Windows Defender related whenever I install Windows, exactly because of this. You never know what kind of setting is enabled for absolutely no reason which can affect gaming performance or the performance of your entire PC in some cases. I usually never get any malware so I don't need any anti-virus.
Yeah but even then, it will enable this shit sometimes
@@AncientGameplays Haha yeah. I wish Microsoft would stop enforcing this kind of stuff by default.
Much the same here, the most I use is 1.1.1.2 DNS resolving, because it blocks mal sites, and a firewall using portmaster. Can't get viruses if the places that have them are blocked, along with me just not being an idiot when downloading, clicking, or visiting sites. Plus portmaster blocks specific CDNs of common sites, programs, etc. So it's good for being a system wide adblock. (and when not on windows, well then nobara linux be doing the job just fine) (as for windows changing your settings and such, id recommend checking out christitustech and his windows debloat program, as well as O&O shut up to get windows to stop calling home and making changes so often) Yeah doing all these little config changes is why I barely touch windows now, too much work.
I wouldn't say it's enabled for absolutely no reason.
What core isolation does is that it divides important processes in the PC's memory. Now where this plays a big part is in security, by isolating important pc memory processes malicious code has harder time spreading through your pc.
Good security is like a good psu, you don't want to skip on it. I'd say that a small performance hit is always better than having your PC being infected as hackers have been getting quite creative and the issues may be coming from things you can't quite affect or expect, like the case with Apex Legends getting hacked and spreading malware.
@@DrunkenJoeh If you want security, use virtual machines on Linux and isolate your gaming environment from anything else. But that's not feasible for most people because of their specs.
My point is, Windows has absolutely nothing to do with security. Malware can easily get past Windows Defender, and even with Core Isolation turned on, you can't do anything about it. I have done some RAT work myself and I can get past most AVs lmao. A digital signature is enough to stop the AVs from raising suspicion, and a RAT done properly that uses exploits to leverage permissions will be unstoppable by Defender.
TL;DR, all Windows does is slow down your PC for the sake of saying it's protecting your PC. Sure it may protect you from regular malware, but that's the user's fault and if you're smart about the sources you download from and what you run on your computer, you don't need any protection. What we need protection from is exploits. Those need patches done by Microsoft, not Windows Defender or Core Isolation.
Bro your content is Gold. it always helps me. BTW that finger was great🤣🤣👌
Thank you for the kind words
Ahah 15 min is not short😂
Wirh this amount of benchmarks? Kinda is