Just FYI, guys, sun allergy is a real thing. It's called photosensitivity, and it's usually a side effect of medication, but more rarely can also be a symptom of a medical condition. I have it from an autoimmune disease. So if we ever do meet, please don't throw holy water on me ;)
I was thinking these kids probably had porphyria which is much more serious. It is a disease that a lot of people had back in the day whenever a lot of vampire legends were evolving. It was really bad. Porphyria is also likely the reason that a few of the monarchs over the years were "mad," because it does something to your blood and affects your whole entire body and mind
I just watched a video from Mr. Ballen about two kids that spent their lives (one boy was 11/12? & 8/9? I think), & every single night when the sun set, they became paralyzed & couldn’t move or speak. A dr finally found out they were missing seratonin & they were cured taking a pill every day. They were called the “Solar Kids”!
Dumb was the proper terms. You may have heard someone say a person is deaf, dumb and blind, meaning they can’t hear, speak or see, Helen Keller was all 3.
Also the term 'struck dumb' when something made you speechless. Agatha Christie also wrote a novel called dumb witness. The witness to the murder was the pet dog who of course couldn't speak, but their behaviour towards the murderer changed.
Helen Keller actually did have a voice, she had already begun to form words before the terrible virus that took her sight and her hearing when she was 18 months old. She tried to learn how to talk at different points in her life by feeling her friend’s throats when they were speaking, and trying to make her own throat do the same, but she was never successful at it because she couldn’t form the words well enough for anyone to understand her. But she wasn’t totally mute. She was totally amazing, though 🙂
The word "dumb" is also a synonym for muteness, one that was far more common at the time of the film's setting. It has since became overshadowed by the "lacking intelligence" definition of the word, and so the muteness meaning has basically fallen out of use. It wouldn't have had the same degree rudeness or intelligence slander you associate with it in context of describing Lydia's condition, though it was a more informal description.
@@vodriscoll Exactly - they said it was the best years of their lives, and they willingly came to offer their services to Grace. If they're stuck hanging around that house forever, they might as well feel productive and useful. :)
@@dlweissSome people get honest satisfaction from a hard day’s work, also considering they’re ghosts that are fully aware they’re ghosts they probably don’t even get tired or ache like they did when alive which makes it even more enjoyable. Also they’re roleplaying as if they’re alive and it might be nice to pretend for a time that they’re just going about living their lives and not ghosts 😅
The mother went after the kids while they were sleeping. She smothered Nicholas first & he didn’t know what she had done. Anne woke up while her brother was being kiIIed so she was alert & aware when the mother went after her. Anne was too young to understand that they were dead but she knew her mother had harmed her & her brother. That’s why she kept hinting their mother had done something horrible & that’s why she was so angry & confrontational with the mother.
@@Rash23215 Finding politics in apolitical topics? You certainly sound like the other end of the political spectrum. To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a vitamin is just a vitamin.
I find it way more enjoyable to just believe whatever the movie tells me without trying to “figure it out”. Nothing against those who view the movies like a detective, but I love not knowing the twist until it’s spoon fed to me. If the movie is good enough, THEN I’ll watch it again and laugh at myself for all the clues I missed.
Agreed. I saw this in the theatre on opening night with some relatives and they kept whispering theories and I kept shhhhing them. But all in all, it was a packed theatre and no one in the audience knew what to expect. It was a great experience.
Totally agree! It's often best to relax into the pace of the story, let it flow at its own speed. Frenetic speculation more often causes one to miss key exposition. More watching and listening, less speaking, at least in a 'figuring out' mode. Speaking out of reaction is quite another thing, and more enjoyable.
Photographs of the dead are something people really did do, not necessarily that they would go on living but photography was rare enough that you might not have another picture of your loved one. You might save locks of hair, too.
In these old estates, the help had their quarters close to the areas they worked, like the grooms had their rooms near the stables and the gardener near the shed.
In the 1940's and before that the term "dumb" did not mean stupid it meant mute. Nichole's character was not saying that with the intent to be mean but just calling her condition as it was called back then after the 1940's the term mute became the common term if I am not mistaken.
I remember in the 70's the term was still used colloquially and even on charity collection boxes outside supermarkets (they were often lifesize children shaped) with writing on like 'help the deaf & dumb'.
True. My brother in law has it and has already lived longer than expected. Skin cancer is and issue but also neurological damage that progresses over time. It’s pretty devastating to watch.
As a teen I took the drug tetracycline and the topical clindamycin for acne, and I became very sensitive to sunlight. I would get a painful burning sensation on my face if I stayed in direct sun for too long. But my skin was clear.
Nicole Kidman shot Moulin Rouge first and then The Others; back-to-back. She turned it down once or twice because she said it was "too dark" after Moulin Rouge but eventually changed her mind. I'm glad she did. Both are phenomenal movies.
That was sadly a very underrated film. I do not believe it ever got the accolades that it deserved. It very much reminds me of masterfully designed films such as M Night Shyamalans The Sixth Sense. It is far and in between that you find a film anymore that combines the real tension , noir , and ambiance of a Gothic Horror film from the past , that gives us a well written and novel new approach. In this case the concept may not be entirely new , but it was so well crafted that it keeps all but the most observant in a stew nearly till the end.
@@bethcushway458 🤣 I completely agree. 'Underrated' and 'cult following' are way overused words. 'The Others' is not underrated. I saw it opening night in a packed theatre. It's just that it came out more than 21 years ago, before many new viewers were even born. So because they haven't heard of it on TikTok or Snapchat - they think NO ONE has.
In life, they had a real condition that causes their skin to blister with minimal sunlight. I believe it’s called Polymorphous light eruption. Other people actually have that same “allergy” to water… including their own sweat. In death, they have no physical body so the light no longer hurts them.
The father was killed in the war (ww2). He was wandering for years. seems to have PTSD He probably can’t stay in the house. He must wander. Grace and the kids will stay because she can’t let go. She also clearly was traumatized by the war, Charles’ death and being so alone and with kids that can’t go outside. Her murder-suicide was a desperate act. I think they will stay because she holds onto what could’ve been had Charles not gone off to war.
Those pictures of the dead were called momento mori . Sometimes, it was the only picture of a loved one the family may have had. Some people collect these pictures and I have seen them for sale at antique shows and stores.
That is the servant’s house too and they can’t leave; so they have to get along with the mom and children. They probably couldn’t just bust out that she killed her kids and herself. I don’t think she could handle it. Mrs Mills got tired of being nice and trying to be subtle.
catholics traditionally have their kids wear white for their first communion (the part of mass when they eat a wafer and drink wine), and at the time girls would've worn a veil as well which is why Anne looked like a little mini bride! source: i'm a cradle catholic
Its not a wafer or wine it's the body and blood of Christ once the priest prayed over it it's called transubstantiation. Calling it a wafer or wine implys Protestant. If your a cradle catholic you should actually be calling it the body and blood of Christ
haha our wifi went out a few months ago during a storm and i found this exact dvd that i watched. eventually i want to pick up the 4k disc as i hear its a fantastic transfer.
my sister texted me after watching this movie for the first time and she was like "i had totally guessed the plot twist and then the movie was like 'shut up b*tch' and cracked my head open from behind with the second plot twist"
Antes de nada, disculpad que escriba en español. La alergia a la luz es una enfermedad real, y los niños la sufrían cuando estaban vivos. La madre se limitaba a seguir con la rutina. No intentaba retenerlos en ninguna parte.
Because of the ads when this came out, when I saw it in theaters as soon as they knocked on the door I knew what was happening with the main characters but the ending is so well done that knowing that doesn't ruin it.
Real smart of Cam to nail it mid way through the movie! I'd like to suggest some other thrillers from the 2000s that don't get many reactions here on YT: Secret Window, The Skeleton Key and Dead Silence! Also in the horror genre there's Jacob's Ladder and the dark horror comedy The House That Jack Built, also under the radar of most reactors!
If they do Jacob's Ladder, though, I recommend the 1990 original, with Tim Robbins. (There was a 2019 remake, I guess, but I've only seen the trailer.) There are any number of other worthwhile horror & sci-fi films from the '80s and '90s that are overlooked as well.
27:10I was thinking these kids probably had porphyria which is much more serious. It is a disease that a lot of people had back in the day whenever a lot of vampire legends were evolving. It was really bad. Porphyria is also likely the reason that a few of the monarchs over the years were "mad," because it does something to your blood and affects your whole entire body and mind.
You nailed it 👍 - almost in the first 10 mins you said 'are they all dead?' I thought that was quick! I came across an interesting theory that someone had about her husband Charles the other day. My theory is. Charles died in the war, and is a ghost he remains because the desperately wants to see his wife and children before he moves into heaven or wherever he goes. So he's been trying to find his way home and some how manages it - and then woah! He finds they are ghosts too and dead, that's not what he expected he wanted to 'see' them. So he's like 'oh dear, that's odd why are they dead, then he finds out - and is like oh dear she killed the kids and herself, that's not good. So he then ups and moves onto the afterlife - sad that his wife and kids are dead and he didn't see them alive. Nicholas says at the very end 'daddy died in the war didn't he?' and Grace says 'yes' pretty much confirming his ghost status. However my friend has a different and very interesting theory - which is: Charles wasn’t dead at all and was simply a grieving visitor who the current occupants allowed to stay the night, he visits explaining to the new owners that he used to live in the house and lost his family and they take pity on him and let him stay for a bit. Gasp!!! He is wandering about outside and comes across Grace in fog and is like 'holy shiiiiiiit' it's the ghost of my wife which is why he acts like he does seemingly suffering from PTSD but really he's found himself in limbo. If this were true then in retrospect that would make Charles’ sudden appearance more significant than any other foreshadowing occurrence in the film. This gives this great film yet another poignant layer. I do think he is a ghost as there are too many clues that he died in the war - but I really do like this theory too. The other thing, when you watch a period film and it's very clear it's a period film and language and words are used that seem odd or out of place to you, you need to view and interpret this 'through' the context of the film and the period it is set. Dumb was at that time a very common word for mute, but you don't need to explicitly know this already to understand from the context and the conversations the word 'dumb' is clearly referencing her mutism and inability to speak and is not being used in the more modern and derogatory way that it is now - dumb was a common word for mute which over time disappeared to be replaced by mute. But the clues are all in the context of the scenes for you to understand this.
The Others was a movie that had not one, not two, but 3 different twists in the 3rd act of the film. It’s a film you have to be patient with and wait for the payoffs.
The word 'dumb' was initially a synonym for mute. It wasn't until relatively recently (since the time of the setting of this movie) that its meaning migrated, perhaps because someone unable to think of what to say in certain social situations was seen as unintelligent. But for the time period being depicted, it's a perfectly acceptable word for muteness.
OK Gen Z. For historical pieces you need to set aside the flawed ideology of presentism and try to view what's happening and bring said in the time period it's set in. At that time dumb was the politically correct term for mute. Please set aside the judgementalism
@allenruss2976 I don’t think their perspective was based on presentism ideology. It seems more like they are ignorant to the fact you just stated. A lot of Gen z folks are history illiterate.
@@jillwanlin9558actually this is one area that needs to be differentiated. Different generations different generation gaps. I do find it annoying that the younger generations don't understand historical context. They are always but hurt. I'm a millenial
It's always funny to watch these kid reactors freak out over the gardner staying in the "shed". It's a difference in culture. What they call a shed we call a cabin or cottage
They’re not kid reactors, for one. For two, they’re aware. It was just funny for her to use she’d as their accommodations and then also refer to the garden tools being in, gasp, a shed as well.
@@Hey_Jamie They are certainly "Kid reactors" in the eyes of anyone older than middle-age, but they are clearly old enough to speak for themselves, so it's probably safe to relax your indignation on the behalf of others.
Cam and Zay, fun fact, the lady at the table that was alive, the brunette, is the actress that plays Katelyn Stark from Game of Thrones 👑👑👑, great reaction!! One of my favorite spooky movies!!
So many beautiful women are not taken seriously. Nicole kidman is as talented as she is beautiful. See her in MONSTER. she was nominated as best actress. She won for MOSTER.
Another Nicole Kidman spooky movie - "The Golden Compass." It's based on a book that's part 1 of a three part book series collection titled "His Dark Materials" by author - Philip Pullman. The real title of the first book in series is "Northern Lights." It was renamed "The Golden Compass" for it's North American distribution. Book two is titled "The Subtle Knife" and book three is titled "The Amber Spyglass" Pullman also created second series operating inside the same Northern Lights Universe "Lyra's Oxford", "Once Upon a Time in the North", "The Collectors" and "Serpentine." Pullman further created a third Series called "The Book of Dust" composed of books "La Belle Sauvage", "The Secret Commonwealth" and book three - which is still in production. Note - Pullman's books have received heavy opposition from certain Christian groups - especially pushing for their banning.
Death photos were common but not necessarily for superstitious reasons like they said in the film. That explanation just fit the narrative better. In reality, in the old days photographs were hard to take and expensive, so people would die and their families may not have any photos of them. A dead picture is not ideal but may be their last chance to keep a record of what they looked like. (And dead subjects don’t have a hard time keeping still for the long exposure)
This movie is a staple in my house. Cam, you got it early and that's great, and you only scratched the surface. You still seemed surprised at the reveal. That was great. Watch it again with someone who hasn't seen it. It's almost like pranking someone. Such an amazing perspective on a ghost story. We love it. I love this reaction. Keep it up! I think there are 'others' everywhere. Watch out!
There is actually a rare condition (its in the genes so brother and sister have a better chance of both having it) where a person is allergic to the sunlight, so I dont think the mother was lying about the kids having it.
There actually is a disease that makes you allergic to sunlight. Charles didn’t go wondering off. He had to go back to where he died. Just like the mother and the kids, they all died in that house and the can never leave it. Neither child had their first communion, so they would be “in limbo.” The mother killed herself, which is a mortal sin so she cannot be accepted into Heaven, according to Catholic teachings. I thought it was really cool that we got to see a ghost story from their point of view, especially since they didn’t know they were dead in the first place. Did you notice when the mother cocked the gun, she had a de ja vu look on her face? She didn’t know why, she just knew it was something she couldn’t fully remember. Helen Keller was consider “deaf and dumb.” That’s what people who couldn’t speak back then was called. That was before the politically correct word police began.
I wonder if the kids really were photo sensitive to light when they were alive and between losing her husband and never being able to see sunlight made the Mother go mad from isolation.
Great reaction! It's one of those movies that really have to be seen twice to get everything. Identity and Marrowbone are a couple of others, and some like The Usual Suspects aren't even horror!
This is one of my fav horrors/thriller can't wait to watch it but il have to wait a few hours as I found this on our holiday, the night before my daughters 5th birthday, as I'm about to go to sleep. You guys will have to wait a few hours so I can really enjoy the whole experience of you watching this movie. I need popcorn, I need a bigger screen...... One must not take such things lightly, oosh this is going to be good
Dean Koontz wrote a couple novels about a protagonist that was allergic to light. The first one was called Fear Nothing. The second one was called Seize the Night. If you want to see another movie that's a psychological thriller about ghosts, The Sixth Sense is really well done.
Great choice! This movie is a masterpiece! That's the problem with watching this movie more than 20 years after its release: many movies and TV shows have copied the twist incessantly, making it easier to guess that they are ***d, almost obvious. I was so lucky to have seen it when it first came out! But no one ever guesses the mother's role in all of this. 😁
The children did suffer from a very real "sun allergy" in life, which is, in part, what drove their mother to end their lives. She was stuck in the house, in the dark 24/7, her husband never returned from the war, she was completely isolated, and that would all "go away" if only she didn't have children. However, she could not live with herself after the atrocity she committed.
I think it implies, since he was a WWII soldier, that he died on a battlefield, that's why he mentioned bleeding, and was stuck in a loop of trying to come home to his family but looking a bit lost and bewildered as if he too, did not realize he was dead.
One of my favorite flicks. Produced by Nicole's ex husband as they were divorcing. She was not put up for Best Actress because she had also done Virginia Wolfe in The Hours. (Stunt nose, stunt casting) But I think this performance is 1000 times better Nicole was amazing in this! Excellent performance.
@Markyajv I understand. I was a huge huge fan of TC, gobsmacked that they split. His personal views are wild and whacky but he's great at what he does. His films are spectacular, apart from a couple and he's great to the fans. Personal life - relationships, they just ain't for him. I'm glad Katie got out too.m poor girl. I feel for Suri, his one own biological daughter and he doesn't wanna know. Its sad really.
@@Staffylover1985 I got nothing against him. I like his movies. Just not into his scam religion. And the fact he took my Katie away for a while. If he sends me a coconut cake....I will eat it.
This reaction just popped out on my main page, haven't seen you guys before. That being said, you had me at the first ''Lord have mercy!'' lmao, keep up the good work!
You should watch The Sixth Sense (1999) too with Bruce Willis and Haley Joel Osment i hope he is still alive we haven't heard about him from a very long time ago, he was my favorite child actor.
He was in 'What We Do In the Shadows' and he has a new movie coming out real soon with Channing Tatum. It's a thriller called 'Blink Twice'(?) but it's getting good reviews. It's Zoey Kravitz's directorial debut.
I remember watching this in the movie theater back then. yeah it was really scarry. The signs were everywhere and in the end you can connect all the dots, that is the beauty of this Movie. Writen and directed by Alejandro Amenabar, a spanish film maker. He has lots of great movies, and he was considerbly young when he did this one.
Great movie. I was expecting an entire HBO tv show prequel based on 'The Rules of Magic' book, but a sequel movie based on the novel 'The Book of Magic' will suffice just as well.
The original meaning of the word 'dumb' was simply 'unable to speak'. As in, 'deaf and dumb'. It didn't mean they were deficient mentally, as it's used today.
I'm a huge horror fan, and this is truly a classic. None of us knew they were dead. Today, it's easier to guess because a lot of films copied this. (Did you recognize Catelyn Stark as Victor's mother?) Nicole Kidman is one of the most interesting superstar actresses in terms of how she curates her career. That's crazy that y'all don't know her work! I guess I'm old. She's a GOAT. Just way too much plastic surgery now. 2001 was a GOATED year for cinema - not only this and Moulin Rouge, but Donnie Darko and, in my opinion, the greatest film ever made, Mullholand Drive.
Just FYI, guys, sun allergy is a real thing. It's called photosensitivity, and it's usually a side effect of medication, but more rarely can also be a symptom of a medical condition. I have it from an autoimmune disease. So if we ever do meet, please don't throw holy water on me ;)
Hilarious!!! Dean Koontz actually had a main character that was allergic to light. The first novel was called Fear Nothing.
@@scifiwriter6092 Indeed! That's one of my absolute favorite books. Dean Koontz creates such awesome characters!
I also have mild photosensitivity from Lupus and my sweat burns my skin
I was thinking these kids probably had porphyria which is much more serious. It is a disease that a lot of people had back in the day whenever a lot of vampire legends were evolving. It was really bad. Porphyria is also likely the reason that a few of the monarchs over the years were "mad," because it does something to your blood and affects your whole entire body and mind
I just watched a video from Mr. Ballen about two kids that spent their lives (one boy was 11/12? & 8/9? I think), & every single night when the sun set, they became paralyzed & couldn’t move or speak. A dr finally found out they were missing seratonin & they were cured taking a pill every day. They were called the “Solar Kids”!
Dumb was the proper terms. You may have heard someone say a person is deaf, dumb and blind, meaning they can’t hear, speak or see, Helen Keller was all 3.
Also the term 'struck dumb' when something made you speechless. Agatha Christie also wrote a novel called dumb witness. The witness to the murder was the pet dog who of course couldn't speak, but their behaviour towards the murderer changed.
Helen Keller actually did have a voice, she had already begun to form words before the terrible virus that took her sight and her hearing when she was 18 months old. She tried to learn how to talk at different points in her life by feeling her friend’s throats when they were speaking, and trying to make her own throat do the same, but she was never successful at it because she couldn’t form the words well enough for anyone to understand her. But she wasn’t totally mute. She was totally amazing, though 🙂
@@itsjuliescottyay Ah, I didn’t realize that, I’d always heard she was mute as well. Thanks for letting me know so I don’t repeat that.
The word "dumb" is also a synonym for muteness, one that was far more common at the time of the film's setting. It has since became overshadowed by the "lacking intelligence" definition of the word, and so the muteness meaning has basically fallen out of use. It wouldn't have had the same degree rudeness or intelligence slander you associate with it in context of describing Lydia's condition, though it was a more informal description.
This comment is so much more worthy of being seen than the stupid one at the top of the comments at the moment
All medical terms will be used to ascribe an insult.
A ghost story told from the perspective of the Ghosts = brilliant
What sucks is that Bertha and the other 2 are still freaking working even after death!
Ghost toast!
That is their choice. I think they love that house so much they don't mind working.
@@vodriscoll Exactly - they said it was the best years of their lives, and they willingly came to offer their services to Grace. If they're stuck hanging around that house forever, they might as well feel productive and useful. :)
@@dlweissSome people get honest satisfaction from a hard day’s work, also considering they’re ghosts that are fully aware they’re ghosts they probably don’t even get tired or ache like they did when alive which makes it even more enjoyable. Also they’re roleplaying as if they’re alive and it might be nice to pretend for a time that they’re just going about living their lives and not ghosts 😅
And not only working, but sleeping on garden rakes, apparently!
The mother went after the kids while they were sleeping. She smothered Nicholas first & he didn’t know what she had done. Anne woke up while her brother was being kiIIed so she was alert & aware when the mother went after her. Anne was too young to understand that they were dead but she knew her mother had harmed her & her brother. That’s why she kept hinting their mother had done something horrible & that’s why she was so angry & confrontational with the mother.
Anne was likely difficult before that happened. She is very similar to her mother and very smart -- they would have always butted heads.
Not Vitamin C, Vitamin D
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
According to newer research, so-called vitamin D is not a vitamin but a hormone :)
@@piotrzagorski611 lol.... r u a trump suppoter??? U talk like one
@@Rash23215 Finding politics in apolitical topics? You certainly sound like the other end of the political spectrum. To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a vitamin is just a vitamin.
@@JusBidniss lol.... politics is in everything my friend.... EVERYTHING.....
I find it way more enjoyable to just believe whatever the movie tells me without trying to “figure it out”. Nothing against those who view the movies like a detective, but I love not knowing the twist until it’s spoon fed to me. If the movie is good enough, THEN I’ll watch it again and laugh at myself for all the clues I missed.
Agreed. I saw this in the theatre on opening night with some relatives and they kept whispering theories and I kept shhhhing them. But all in all, it was a packed theatre and no one in the audience knew what to expect. It was a great experience.
Totally agree! It's often best to relax into the pace of the story, let it flow at its own speed. Frenetic speculation more often causes one to miss key exposition. More watching and listening, less speaking, at least in a 'figuring out' mode. Speaking out of reaction is quite another thing, and more enjoyable.
Photographs of the dead are something people really did do, not necessarily that they would go on living but photography was rare enough that you might not have another picture of your loved one. You might save locks of hair, too.
Yes, this! It's creepy by our standards, but it's based on a very understandable motivation of remembrance of a loved one.
And make the locks of hair into lacework or set it into a cameo, as a keepsake.
Yeah, photography was expensive at the time. The post-death pictures being the only ones you might get of someone sounds very believable.
I wouldn't want to remember my loved ones as corpse
And those weren't fake photos created for the movie. Those photos were real.
In these old estates, the help had their quarters close to the areas they worked, like the grooms had their rooms near the stables and the gardener near the shed.
In the 1940's and before that the term "dumb" did not mean stupid it meant mute. Nichole's character was not saying that with the intent to be mean but just calling her condition as it was called back then after the 1940's the term mute became the common term if I am not mistaken.
I remember in the 70's the term was still used colloquially and even on charity collection boxes outside supermarkets (they were often lifesize children shaped) with writing on like 'help the deaf & dumb'.
@@camerachica73 Is that right? I was born in 1970 so I was in la la land, hehe. Thanks for mentioning that.
There is an actual genetic disorder where children are allergic to the sun and will develop blisters and most times die quite young of skin cancer.
This is correct. 👍🏼👍🏼
True. My brother in law has it and has already lived longer than expected. Skin cancer is and issue but also neurological damage that progresses over time. It’s pretty devastating to watch.
This is also along with albino that contributed to the myths about vampires
As a teen I took the drug tetracycline and the topical clindamycin for acne, and I became very sensitive to sunlight. I would get a painful burning sensation on my face if I stayed in direct sun for too long. But my skin was clear.
It's called Xeroderma Pigmentosum
Nicole Kidman shot Moulin Rouge first and then The Others; back-to-back. She turned it down once or twice because she said it was "too dark" after Moulin Rouge but eventually changed her mind. I'm glad she did. Both are phenomenal movies.
She was also supposed to do Panic Room around the same time too but because of an accident on the Moulin Rouge set, she had to drop out of that.
That was sadly a very underrated film. I do not believe it ever got the accolades that it deserved.
It very much reminds me of masterfully designed films such as M Night Shyamalans The Sixth Sense. It is far and in between that you find a film anymore that combines the real tension , noir , and ambiance of a Gothic Horror film from the past , that gives us a well written and novel new approach. In this case the concept may not be entirely new , but it was so well crafted that it keeps all but the most observant in a stew nearly till the end.
Critics praised it.
The Orphanage is another good one. It's a Spanish film produced by Guillermo Del Toro.
It wasn't underrated! I hate these comments on every box office hit.
@@bethcushway458 🤣 I completely agree. 'Underrated' and 'cult following' are way overused words. 'The Others' is not underrated. I saw it opening night in a packed theatre. It's just that it came out more than 21 years ago, before many new viewers were even born. So because they haven't heard of it on TikTok or Snapchat - they think NO ONE has.
In life, they had a real condition that causes their skin to blister with minimal sunlight. I believe it’s called Polymorphous light eruption. Other people actually have that same “allergy”
to water… including their own sweat. In death, they have no physical body so the light no longer hurts them.
The father was killed in the war (ww2). He was wandering for years. seems to have PTSD He probably can’t stay in the house. He must wander. Grace and the kids will stay because she can’t let go. She also clearly was traumatized by the war, Charles’ death and being so alone and with kids that can’t go outside. Her murder-suicide was a desperate act. I think they will stay because she holds onto what could’ve been had Charles not gone off to war.
I think Charles crossed over. He came to say goodbye to his wife and kids.
Nobody speak about that theres was a time when the 3 servants where ghost in the house while Grace and the children were living....
Those pictures of the dead were called momento mori . Sometimes, it was the only picture of a loved one the family may have had. Some people collect these pictures and I have seen them for sale at antique shows and stores.
"Memento mori", I think it's called.
the twist was not that they were dead but that the mother killed her children.
Cam lmfao. You don’t get vitamin C from the sun. That’s vitamin D. Hahahaha
That is the servant’s house too and they can’t leave; so they have to get along with the mom and children. They probably couldn’t just bust out that she killed her kids and herself. I don’t think she could handle it. Mrs Mills got tired of being nice and trying to be subtle.
PS: The mother of Victor was Catelyn Stark❤
Who is Catelyn Stark?
@@dedcowbowee from Game of Thrones
I was like...I NOW THAT VOICE!!! lol
@@wonderwomanmillow2281 👍
@@dedcowbowee Iron Man's secret wife. ;)
I've always felt this movie was inspired by The Turn of the Screw, by Henry James, a classic horror story from 1908.
catholics traditionally have their kids wear white for their first communion (the part of mass when they eat a wafer and drink wine), and at the time girls would've worn a veil as well which is why Anne looked like a little mini bride! source: i'm a cradle catholic
I was 13 when I did my first communion. There was a boy 13 also. Everyone else was really young. Our pictures looked like we got married.
Its not a wafer or wine it's the body and blood of Christ once the priest prayed over it it's called transubstantiation. Calling it a wafer or wine implys Protestant. If your a cradle catholic you should actually be calling it the body and blood of Christ
@@meggo329 watch out, we got the wafer police here
@@meggo329 “it’s called transubstantiation ☝️🤓” i hope you and your toxic hateful faith get one tenth of what i wish for you both
@@ButteredToast32 Hardly. She is correct.
That's tough... Knowing the plot in advance and pretend that you don't. :)
Loved this movie, added it to my dvd collection. Yes I’m old like that. DVDs are the best when wifi is down!👻💜👻
Yep!
Me too.
I have it too!
haha our wifi went out a few months ago during a storm and i found this exact dvd that i watched. eventually i want to pick up the 4k disc as i hear its a fantastic transfer.
Physical media > streaming services
my sister texted me after watching this movie for the first time and she was like "i had totally guessed the plot twist and then the movie was like 'shut up b*tch' and cracked my head open from behind with the second plot twist"
Antes de nada, disculpad que escriba en español.
La alergia a la luz es una enfermedad real, y los niños la sufrían cuando estaban vivos. La madre se limitaba a seguir con la rutina. No intentaba retenerlos en ninguna parte.
I had a customer at a job years ago who was allergic to sunlight.
Your jump scares are adorable
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Because of the ads when this came out, when I saw it in theaters as soon as they knocked on the door I knew what was happening with the main characters but the ending is so well done that knowing that doesn't ruin it.
Real smart of Cam to nail it mid way through the movie! I'd like to suggest some other thrillers from the 2000s that don't get many reactions here on YT: Secret Window, The Skeleton Key and Dead Silence! Also in the horror genre there's Jacob's Ladder and the dark horror comedy The House That Jack Built, also under the radar of most reactors!
If they do Jacob's Ladder, though, I recommend the 1990 original, with Tim Robbins. (There was a 2019 remake, I guess, but I've only seen the trailer.) There are any number of other worthwhile horror & sci-fi films from the '80s and '90s that are overlooked as well.
The Skeleton Key is my favorite spooky movie of all time it would be super fun to see Cam & Zay react to that one
The Skeleton Key is a good one. I lived in the Garden District of New Orleans when they filmed it and got to be an extra in the Bourbon Street scenes.
27:10I was thinking these kids probably had porphyria which is much more serious. It is a disease that a lot of people had back in the day whenever a lot of vampire legends were evolving. It was really bad. Porphyria is also likely the reason that a few of the monarchs over the years were "mad," because it does something to your blood and affects your whole entire body and mind.
You nailed it 👍 - almost in the first 10 mins you said 'are they all dead?' I thought that was quick!
I came across an interesting theory that someone had about her husband Charles the other day. My theory is. Charles died in the war, and is a ghost he remains because the desperately wants to see his wife and children before he moves into heaven or wherever he goes. So he's been trying to find his way home and some how manages it - and then woah! He finds they are ghosts too and dead, that's not what he expected he wanted to 'see' them. So he's like 'oh dear, that's odd why are they dead, then he finds out - and is like oh dear she killed the kids and herself, that's not good. So he then ups and moves onto the afterlife - sad that his wife and kids are dead and he didn't see them alive. Nicholas says at the very end 'daddy died in the war didn't he?' and Grace says 'yes' pretty much confirming his ghost status.
However my friend has a different and very interesting theory - which is: Charles wasn’t dead at all and was simply a grieving visitor who the current occupants allowed to stay the night, he visits explaining to the new owners that he used to live in the house and lost his family and they take pity on him and let him stay for a bit. Gasp!!! He is wandering about outside and comes across Grace in fog and is like 'holy shiiiiiiit' it's the ghost of my wife which is why he acts like he does seemingly suffering from PTSD but really he's found himself in limbo. If this were true then in retrospect that would make Charles’ sudden appearance more significant than any other foreshadowing occurrence in the film. This gives this great film yet another poignant layer. I do think he is a ghost as there are too many clues that he died in the war - but I really do like this theory too.
The other thing, when you watch a period film and it's very clear it's a period film and language and words are used that seem odd or out of place to you, you need to view and interpret this 'through' the context of the film and the period it is set. Dumb was at that time a very common word for mute, but you don't need to explicitly know this already to understand from the context and the conversations the word 'dumb' is clearly referencing her mutism and inability to speak and is not being used in the more modern and derogatory way that it is now - dumb was a common word for mute which over time disappeared to be replaced by mute. But the clues are all in the context of the scenes for you to understand this.
I watch a lot of reaction videos but you guys are the only ones who I will watch a scary movie with. Your humor makes it okay. :)
These guys really are funny, lol.
This movie is so creepy, but you guys broke the tension a lot with your faces and laughter. "Sometimes I bleed." From orifaces or...
The Others was a movie that had not one, not two, but 3 different twists in the 3rd act of the film. It’s a film you have to be patient with and wait for the payoffs.
The word 'dumb' was initially a synonym for mute. It wasn't until relatively recently (since the time of the setting of this movie) that its meaning migrated, perhaps because someone unable to think of what to say in certain social situations was seen as unintelligent. But for the time period being depicted, it's a perfectly acceptable word for muteness.
Thanks to Cameron and Isaiah! 😨 Kudos to writer/director Alejandro Amenábar.
You don't even know your own language? "Dumb" means mute, too
"Dumb" originally meant mute, not stupid. Funny watching young guys watch movies about olden days. It wasn't an insult.
See Nicole Kidman in Dead Calm and also Invaders.
No comments about the husband being played by Christopher Eccleston, Doctor Who #9?
OK Gen Z. For historical pieces you need to set aside the flawed ideology of presentism and try to view what's happening and bring said in the time period it's set in. At that time dumb was the politically correct term for mute. Please set aside the judgementalism
Wow, so harsh and judgey yourself there mister.
@@drea4195 sometimes you need to be
@allenruss2976
I don’t think their perspective was based on presentism ideology. It seems more like they are ignorant to the fact you just stated. A lot of Gen z folks are history illiterate.
Please set aside putting people into groups in this modern day world (gen this gen that) it only serves to divide.
@@jillwanlin9558actually this is one area that needs to be differentiated. Different generations different generation gaps. I do find it annoying that the younger generations don't understand historical context. They are always but hurt. I'm a millenial
You mean vitamin D, not C.
Cam, you are most certainly not an idiot. You figured the entire movie out in a frame of 20 minutes. 😂
I hate when there’s multiple reactors ruin it by telling the other what they think is going to happen next, let the movie play out for them!
Y’all should definitely watch “The Train to Busan”.
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Great Zombie movie
It's always funny to watch these kid reactors freak out over the gardner staying in the "shed". It's a difference in culture. What they call a shed we call a cabin or cottage
They’re not kid reactors, for one. For two, they’re aware. It was just funny for her to use she’d as their accommodations and then also refer to the garden tools being in, gasp, a shed as well.
It's a Hagrid kind of situation 😉
@@Hey_Jamie They are certainly "Kid reactors" in the eyes of anyone older than middle-age, but they are clearly old enough to speak for themselves, so it's probably safe to relax your indignation on the behalf of others.
Cam and Zay, fun fact, the lady at the table that was alive, the brunette, is the actress that plays Katelyn Stark from Game of Thrones 👑👑👑, great reaction!! One of my favorite spooky movies!!
The vitamin you get from the sun is Vitamin D 🌞
So many beautiful women are not taken seriously. Nicole kidman is as talented as she is beautiful. See her in MONSTER. she was nominated as best actress. She won for MOSTER.
I think that was Charlize Theron.
THAT WAS CHARLIZE THERON AND WON THE OSCAR
Had you not read that it was about ghosts I'm not as sure you would have guessed it all :)
Another Nicole Kidman spooky movie - "The Golden Compass."
It's based on a book that's part 1 of a three part book series collection titled "His Dark Materials" by author - Philip Pullman. The real title of the first book in series is "Northern Lights." It was renamed "The Golden Compass" for it's North American distribution. Book two is titled "The Subtle Knife" and book three is titled "The Amber Spyglass"
Pullman also created second series operating inside the same Northern Lights Universe "Lyra's Oxford", "Once Upon a Time in the North", "The Collectors" and "Serpentine."
Pullman further created a third Series called "The Book of Dust" composed of books "La Belle Sauvage", "The Secret Commonwealth" and book three - which is still in production.
Note - Pullman's books have received heavy opposition from certain Christian groups - especially pushing for their banning.
"Birth" is another wacky-premise film that Kidman was amazing in. Give it a look.
Death photos were common but not necessarily for superstitious reasons like they said in the film. That explanation just fit the narrative better. In reality, in the old days photographs were hard to take and expensive, so people would die and their families may not have any photos of them. A dead picture is not ideal but may be their last chance to keep a record of what they looked like. (And dead subjects don’t have a hard time keeping still for the long exposure)
This movie is a staple in my house. Cam, you got it early and that's great, and you only scratched the surface. You still seemed surprised at the reveal. That was great. Watch it again with someone who hasn't seen it. It's almost like pranking someone. Such an amazing perspective on a ghost story. We love it. I love this reaction. Keep it up! I think there are 'others' everywhere. Watch out!
Definition of dumb: temporarily unable or unwilling to speak.
Cam wit the dub!!!!!
Great call my G
There is actually a rare condition (its in the genes so brother and sister have a better chance of both having it) where a person is allergic to the sunlight, so I dont think the mother was lying about the kids having it.
If I had a penny for every famous movie where the twist is that the heroes were dead the whole time, I'd have quite a few pennies actually
But at the time it was actually released you would have only had like 2 cents.
I love this movie 😄😍 I first watched it with 12 years old when it came out. So creepy and sad, too!
A great epic movie with Nicole Kidman is "Far And Away" (co-staring Tom Cruise)
Well done Cam!
There actually is a disease that makes you allergic to sunlight. Charles didn’t go wondering off. He had to go back to where he died. Just like the mother and the kids, they all died in that house and the can never leave it. Neither child had their first communion, so they would be “in limbo.” The mother killed herself, which is a mortal sin so she cannot be accepted into Heaven, according to Catholic teachings. I thought it was really cool that we got to see a ghost story from their point of view, especially since they didn’t know they were dead in the first place.
Did you notice when the mother cocked the gun, she had a de ja vu look on her face? She didn’t know why, she just knew it was something she couldn’t fully remember.
Helen Keller was consider “deaf and dumb.” That’s what people who couldn’t speak back then was called. That was before the politically correct word police began.
I wonder if the kids really were photo sensitive to light when they were alive and between losing her husband and never being able to see sunlight made the Mother go mad from isolation.
Great reaction! It's one of those movies that really have to be seen twice to get everything. Identity and Marrowbone are a couple of others, and some like The Usual Suspects aren't even horror!
This is one of my fav horrors/thriller can't wait to watch it but il have to wait a few hours as I found this on our holiday, the night before my daughters 5th birthday, as I'm about to go to sleep. You guys will have to wait a few hours so I can really enjoy the whole experience of you watching this movie. I need popcorn, I need a bigger screen...... One must not take such things lightly, oosh this is going to be good
Yo cam got it straight away nice one boys…
One of only two reactors I've seen guess correctly about what's going on, the other one guessed within the first couple minutes of the movie.
Dean Koontz wrote a couple novels about a protagonist that was allergic to light. The first one was called Fear Nothing. The second one was called Seize the Night. If you want to see another movie that's a psychological thriller about ghosts, The Sixth Sense is really well done.
6:25 vitamin D lol
Yall need to react to Donnie Darko, I think you guys would really really enjoy it.
If I remember correctly Tom Cruise was one of the producers of this movie. Whom Nicole kidman was divorcing at the time
Great choice! This movie is a masterpiece!
That's the problem with watching this movie more than 20 years after its release: many movies and TV shows have copied the twist incessantly, making it easier to guess that they are ***d, almost obvious.
I was so lucky to have seen it when it first came out!
But no one ever guesses the mother's role in all of this. 😁
The children did suffer from a very real "sun allergy" in life, which is, in part, what drove their mother to end their lives. She was stuck in the house, in the dark 24/7, her husband never returned from the war, she was completely isolated, and that would all "go away" if only she didn't have children. However, she could not live with herself after the atrocity she committed.
I've been waiting for you two to react to this wonderful film! Yay! Shine on both of you ✨️
Was hoping you two would react to this one. I saw this in theaters and it did not disappoint
Purgatory is remaining on the job after dying
These guys are on a roll lately
So.. Because her husband said "sometimes I bleed" does that mean he was not yet dead and maybe being brought back to life?
I think it implies, since he was a WWII soldier, that he died on a battlefield, that's why he mentioned bleeding, and was stuck in a loop of trying to come home to his family but looking a bit lost and bewildered as if he too, did not realize he was dead.
One of my favorite flicks. Produced by Nicole's ex husband as they were divorcing. She was not put up for Best Actress because she had also done Virginia Wolfe in The Hours. (Stunt nose, stunt casting) But I think this performance is 1000 times better Nicole was amazing in this! Excellent performance.
Haha can't even say his name...ex husband to be Tom Cruise
@@Staffylover1985 I'm afraid of the thetons stuck to scientologists.
@Markyajv I understand. I was a huge huge fan of TC, gobsmacked that they split. His personal views are wild and whacky but he's great at what he does. His films are spectacular, apart from a couple and he's great to the fans. Personal life - relationships, they just ain't for him. I'm glad Katie got out too.m poor girl. I feel for Suri, his one own biological daughter and he doesn't wanna know. Its sad really.
@@Staffylover1985 I got nothing against him. I like his movies. Just not into his scam religion. And the fact he took my Katie away for a while.
If he sends me a coconut cake....I will eat it.
@Markyajv haha he can keep the coconut cake...can't stand it 🤣
Scent of A Woman - incredible 1992 film starring Al Pacino, Chris O’Donnell, Phillip Seymour Hoffman
The reason for her migraines were because she shot herself in the head. That's also why she woke up screaming.
I have seen this movie many times, but when you mentioned him sleeping in the shed where the tools are, that’s pretty funny!
@cam&zay
Nicole Kidman is queen 🔥
More suggestions of her movies to watch/react:
Stepford Wives
Cold Mountain
Dogville
Bangkok Hilton
Cam guessed it way sooner than the filmmakers wanted :)
You NEED to watch "The Forgotten" (2004), with Julianne Moore.
This reaction just popped out on my main page, haven't seen you guys before. That being said, you had me at the first ''Lord have mercy!'' lmao, keep up the good work!
You should watch The Sixth Sense (1999) too with Bruce Willis and Haley Joel Osment i hope he is still alive we haven't heard about him from a very long time ago, he was my favorite child actor.
he's actually been in a bunch of stuff just not super high profile for some reason, was also very surprised he didn't become a much bigger actor
He was in 'What We Do In the Shadows' and he has a new movie coming out real soon with Channing Tatum. It's a thriller called 'Blink Twice'(?) but it's getting good reviews. It's Zoey Kravitz's directorial debut.
I remember watching this in the movie theater back then. yeah it was really scarry. The signs were everywhere and in the end you can connect all the dots, that is the beauty of this Movie.
Writen and directed by Alejandro Amenabar, a spanish film maker. He has lots of great movies, and he was considerbly young when he did this one.
So sad that noone came behind either Cam or Zay and touch their face....That would have been hilarious...
We've been robbed 😂
You need to watch 'Australia' - another Kidman movie and from the director of 'Moulin Rouge!'.
Good guess guys, you really followed it and really got it, i never saw it coming
Practical Magic
Great movie. I was expecting an entire HBO tv show prequel based on 'The Rules of Magic' book, but a sequel movie based on the novel 'The Book of Magic' will suffice just as well.
The original meaning of the word 'dumb' was simply 'unable to speak'. As in, 'deaf and dumb'. It didn't mean they were deficient mentally, as it's used today.
Starting the spooky season a tad early, but I'm not mad about it.
Hope you boys do Prince of Darkness for Halloween!
One of my favorite spooky movies
Hey we start Christmas in October. Why not Halloween in August?! Because one month is not enough.
I'm a huge horror fan, and this is truly a classic. None of us knew they were dead. Today, it's easier to guess because a lot of films copied this. (Did you recognize Catelyn Stark as Victor's mother?)
Nicole Kidman is one of the most interesting superstar actresses in terms of how she curates her career. That's crazy that y'all don't know her work! I guess I'm old. She's a GOAT. Just way too much plastic surgery now.
2001 was a GOATED year for cinema - not only this and Moulin Rouge, but Donnie Darko and, in my opinion, the greatest film ever made, Mullholand Drive.
Respect for mentioning Donnie Darko and David Lynch.
Big John Cryer energy at the begining ther Cam-tastic