excellent video brother. I couldn't agree with you more when you said that people think, that when you grow fruit trees from seed you won't get good fruit, they dont know what they are talking about. I really appreciated this video more than you will know because of all fruit trees I grow from seeds and all the people that say it won't produce fruit or good fruit. thank you man
I've planted lemon and lime trees from seed. The limes have fruited in 3 years. They produce golfball size limes that are very juicy and sweet. The lemons are about 6 feet, but no fruit yet. I will always plant seeds. If I don't eat from it someone will.
It's so fun and rewarding to see your seeds grow up!! It's sad that not all seeds are guaranteed to grow the same fruit they are taken from though... I guess the surprise fruit (if there is one) is a good consolation.
Another score for the fruit from seeds team! When I took a citrus workshop the presenter said that some of the seeds in a citrus fruit will grow true and some won't, or maybe that was only in certain species. The lady was from the germplasm collection, so she probably knew what she was talking about regarding that.
+SkillCult I'm sure she's right, though the ones that aren't "true" are still usually good in my experience. A friend has a tree that grew from a "Navel" orange seed 20 years ago. Some of the oranges exhibit the bellybutton mutation, some don't, and some are about half-way... all on the same tree. One thing that's consistent, though: the flavor of those oranges are amazing. I credit in part the deep tap roots that result when seedlings are put in the ground young.
The 2 terms are zygotic embryony and nucellar embryony. Nucellar embryos are clones of the parent tree, zygotic embryos are a combination of the genetics contributed by both seed parent and pollen parent and are variable. Citrus cultivars vary greatly in the percentages of the 2 types. Temple tangor and Meyer lemon have 0% nucellar embryos (no clones), Dancy mandarin is nearly all nucellar.
@@rafaelramos441 Thanks for that. I don't suppose there is a way to tell them apart. I'm interested in dabbling with citrus breeding and it would be good to be able to discard the clones rather than growing them out only to find out that they are identical to the seed parent.
@@SkillCult The zygotic seedlings will have one seedling per seed. Nucellar seeds can have multiple seedlings per seed. However, nucellar seedlings can also occur singly. The best test is to examine the seedlings for variation in foliage, vigor, or leaf color. Variation equals zygotic.
Wouldn't be able to do this in Scotland, but I'm in the process of sowing some more lemons to be kept in pots. Now keen to sow other types of citrus seeds.
I saw many videos that lemon seeds grown up to a little trees, but couldn't find who actually successfully succeed in fruiting. Maybe because I'm in Japan and the climate is different, but still this is great!
neat! been looking for a video of a fruiting citrus grown from seed. the "lemon" looks like it's leaning more to the citron side of it's lineage. is the skin thick like a citron?
My seed grown Ruby Red Grapefruits ...4 trees... are in abundance of blooms now starting their 8th year. But, they are only 7ft. Tall. I kept them in a shed storage during the winter. I almost lost them in the 18 F temp. Of our Tennessee winter 2023.
Just watched your video on pruning citrus… Pretty sure I have a couple of years invested in a bad situation… Any tips or advice? What do I need to cut? is there a way I can show you a picture?
Hi. You have made yourself a really beautiful orchard! I'm looking for info on citrus seed preserving/saving. I know I can propagate them soon after taking the seed from the fruit but I'm wondering if i can sun dry citrus seeds and preserve them somehow to use in the future. I can't seem to find any info on this. I'm in Japan and am interesting in preserving some yuzu citrus fruit seeds now while they're in season. I figure they could be treated pretty much the same as lemons if you have any info. Many thanks for your time and assistance. Penny.
They don't really keep - you need to plant them before they dry out. You really only get a couple of weeks. Get the seeds and plant in season. You might be able to store them in a bit of slightly damp soil in the fridge for a while, but I'm not even sure about that.
wow impressive, where are those located ? California ? Texas ? I guess somewhere hot, I'm in Brittany My citrus trees (3 years old) are well but I have to be patient !
You're too far to grow it outside, but pots on a patio, then taken inside during winter might work. I had a friend in TN with a grapefruit tree in a pot in his apartment. No fruit but a nice-looking little tree.
Is it true that the reason that this guy has fruit close to the parent fruit , is because most citrus comes true from seed? I read if they polyembrionic they come true.or really close.cool vid
A lot of the tangerines / oranges are polyembryonic (multiple embryos in one seed) meaning there's nucellar (clone) to the parent along with zygotic embryo all in one seed. I've seen this in Honey Tangerines I've germinated, some of the seeds were really big and when they germinated I saw with my own eyes like 5 embryos in there of varying size. Some people say the strongest one with the most vigor is the clone of the mother tree, others say you can tell which one is the hybrid by the leafs, but the surest way to tell is of course DNA test.
@@zachariahstillwater I moved from Florida to Nevada not long after I planted those. And gave away all my plants. They were doing well when I left though.
I planted a seed last year and got twin seedling from it. I was little afraid to separate them cause i don't want to do any damage to them. I let them grow and they're growing fine. I recently planted them in a bigger pot. Should i separate them?
You could also just let them grow together like the lemon/lime tree described in this video. It's a natural phenomenon when two tree's fuse together and become 1 tree that produces 2 fruit type. I'm doing it with my own lemon from seed that had multiple spouts because it's these exact seedling types where this phenomenon is most commonly found.
I just germinated some seeds and planted them a few weeks ago, two of the four seedlings are albino completely lacking chlorophyll and white in appearance , and these two seedIings also happen to be twins from the same seed. I had one more seed from the same mandarin orange fruit that also produced twin seedlings from one seed. I sprouted several Bing cherry seeds last year that also were albinos all of which failed to thrive and died within a couple of weeks of emerging. You never know what you will get with a hybridized plant.
This is great. I tried growing a lemon tree from seed and I had about 12 plants, but once they were about 24 inches tall they grew thrones and the leaves had a strong lemon smell.
+zaneymay The thorns are normal for a seedling citrus. Citrus grow thorns when young, then as they reach a certain height and the tree top is safer from grazing animals, the amount of thorns goes way down. Grafted trees start with scion wood/buds that are from the mature part of a citrus, tacked onto a seedling roots stock... so the thorny phase of juvenile citrus trees is skipped altogether.
@@davidthegood Grafted citrus are usually grown on Trifoliate (sour) orange rootstock for its hardiness and the thorns never disappear. In fact, here in south Texas, they used to plant it as a natural barrier and it's more effective than barbed-wire. If people don't keep the suckers from growing up out of the rootstock, they will eventually crowd out the grafted parts and the tree will once again be a thorn-laden tree with nasty oranges.
I recon, they know what they are talking about, it is an unpredictable result. That is what it is. Similar to tomatoes, apples, strawberries. You can get a disappointing result. Of course, if you have lots of time and land, you can experiment and perhaps one day get the best-tasting variety. It's like claiming if one of the only people you meet is Einstein, to say everyone is. In other words, today's hybrids are mixed, and you are likely to get some other mix that or some sort of original-like variety. Do not mean to discourage you. Best of luck.
yes you can citrus grow tree from seed but you should consider this: you won't get disease resistance especially to CTV virus or phytophthora you have to wait 5+ years to taste the first fruit. fruit maybe eatable but also maybe with other problems like misshapen or too small or have a very thick skin or it split when ripen most often you seedling tree have less crop than commercial varieties citrus trees from nurseries are not expensive
this is encouraging as I'm growing citrus and other fruit from seeds
How are your trees after 4 years?
excellent video brother. I couldn't agree with you more when you said that people think, that when you grow fruit trees from seed you won't get good fruit, they dont know what they are talking about. I really appreciated this video more than you will know because of all fruit trees I grow from seeds and all the people that say it won't produce fruit or good fruit. thank you man
+Planting Freedom - athatcher85 Thank you - keep sharing the good stories. We'll bring people around, one seed at a time.
Plantation of lemon from seed is a good practice. These trees live long time and give more fruits . Thanks
I've planted lemon and lime trees from seed. The limes have fruited in 3 years. They produce golfball size limes that are very juicy and sweet. The lemons are about 6 feet, but no fruit yet. I will always plant seeds. If I don't eat from it someone will.
That is awesome - you are my kind of gardener.
It's so fun and rewarding to see your seeds grow up!! It's sad that not all seeds are guaranteed to grow the same fruit they are taken from though... I guess the surprise fruit (if there is one) is a good consolation.
How many years did you take to have it fruited?
any update?
you could do an update on these trees..would be nice to see how they are going
I wanna see that one too
me too!
Another score for the fruit from seeds team! When I took a citrus workshop the presenter said that some of the seeds in a citrus fruit will grow true and some won't, or maybe that was only in certain species. The lady was from the germplasm collection, so she probably knew what she was talking about regarding that.
+SkillCult I'm sure she's right, though the ones that aren't "true" are still usually good in my experience. A friend has a tree that grew from a "Navel" orange seed 20 years ago. Some of the oranges exhibit the bellybutton mutation, some don't, and some are about half-way... all on the same tree. One thing that's consistent, though: the flavor of those oranges are amazing. I credit in part the deep tap roots that result when seedlings are put in the ground young.
The 2 terms are zygotic embryony and nucellar embryony. Nucellar embryos are clones of the parent tree, zygotic embryos are a combination of the genetics contributed by both seed parent and pollen parent and are variable.
Citrus cultivars vary greatly in the percentages of the 2 types. Temple tangor and Meyer lemon have 0% nucellar embryos (no clones), Dancy mandarin is nearly all nucellar.
@@rafaelramos441 Thanks for that. I don't suppose there is a way to tell them apart. I'm interested in dabbling with citrus breeding and it would be good to be able to discard the clones rather than growing them out only to find out that they are identical to the seed parent.
@@SkillCult The zygotic seedlings will have one seedling per seed. Nucellar seeds can have multiple seedlings per seed. However, nucellar seedlings can also occur singly. The best test is to examine the seedlings for variation in foliage, vigor, or leaf color. Variation equals zygotic.
@@SkillCult Also, the best option is to use seed parents known to be highly zygotic, or 100% zygotic.
Just what I needed to know. Thank you so much.
I have 3 Lemon trees stated from seed. I needed to know how long for fruit and if it tastes good. 😋 👍👍
Probably 3-6 years for fruit, and they should be just fine. Lemons seem to grow close to type.
Wouldn't be able to do this in Scotland, but I'm in the process of sowing some more lemons to be kept in pots. Now keen to sow other types of citrus seeds.
I bet you could grow Yuzu lemon or Ichang lemons there.
I saw many videos that lemon seeds grown up to a little trees, but couldn't find who actually successfully succeed in fruiting. Maybe because I'm in Japan and the climate is different, but still this is great!
Very inspiring
Nice one
If only I could grow those!
right? I'd love to have citrus trees stuck in the ground. you can still grow some smaller varieties in pots though.
Nice. I'm growing grapefruit from seed now. I've planted 10 seeds in a seed tray, and 5 in the ground. In 2 or 3 weeks they should germinate.
Good work!
neat! been looking for a video of a fruiting citrus grown from seed. the "lemon" looks like it's leaning more to the citron side of it's lineage. is the skin thick like a citron?
@Windows 10 oh, guess I got it mixed up. interesting tho, I'd have thought it'd be at least a little closer to a grapefruit.
My seed grown Ruby Red Grapefruits ...4 trees... are in abundance of blooms now starting their 8th year. But, they are only 7ft. Tall. I kept them in a shed storage during the winter. I almost lost them in the 18 F temp. Of our Tennessee winter 2023.
That is really cool.
i agreed with you sir. and thanks for the video,it made me clear about it.
These citrus are really in good shape. Good to see that. Any view on how bad the citrus canker is in Florida these days?
I would love an update to this video.
Just watched your video on pruning citrus… Pretty sure I have a couple of years invested in a bad situation… Any tips or advice? What do I need to cut? is there a way I can show you a picture?
Hi. You have made yourself a really beautiful orchard! I'm looking for info on citrus seed preserving/saving. I know I can propagate them soon after taking the seed from the fruit but I'm wondering if i can sun dry citrus seeds and preserve them somehow to use in the future. I can't seem to find any info on this. I'm in Japan and am interesting in preserving some yuzu citrus fruit seeds now while they're in season. I figure they could be treated pretty much the same as lemons if you have any info. Many thanks for your time and assistance. Penny.
They don't really keep - you need to plant them before they dry out. You really only get a couple of weeks. Get the seeds and plant in season. You might be able to store them in a bit of slightly damp soil in the fridge for a while, but I'm not even sure about that.
wow impressive, where are those located ? California ? Texas ? I guess somewhere hot, I'm in Brittany My citrus trees (3 years old) are well but I have to be patient !
North Florida
How far south do you have to be to grow citrus trees? I'm in Tennessee, I'm guessing that's too far north, something that one rarely says about us.
You're too far to grow it outside, but pots on a patio, then taken inside during winter might work. I had a friend in TN with a grapefruit tree in a pot in his apartment. No fruit but a nice-looking little tree.
pretty sure they grow some citrus as far north as niagra area. they take some special measures in the winter to keep them alive though.
Is it true that the reason that this guy has fruit close to the parent fruit , is because most citrus comes true from seed? I read if they polyembrionic they come true.or really close.cool vid
A lot of the tangerines / oranges are polyembryonic (multiple embryos in one seed) meaning there's nucellar (clone) to the parent along with zygotic embryo all in one seed. I've seen this in Honey Tangerines I've germinated, some of the seeds were really big and when they germinated I saw with my own eyes like 5 embryos in there of varying size. Some people say the strongest one with the most vigor is the clone of the mother tree, others say you can tell which one is the hybrid by the leafs, but the surest way to tell is of course DNA test.
I planted a bunch of seeds from that giant lemon you gave me, and almost all of them have sprouted.
+TheLordHumungus Good man. That's awesome. It was a "Ponderosa" lemon. Really love to see what the trees and fruit look like.
+David The Good
I'll be sure to let you know in 5 or 6 years lol
not quite even a year, but how is the progress?
@@TheLordHumungus care to update us?
@@zachariahstillwater I moved from Florida to Nevada not long after I planted those. And gave away all my plants. They were doing well when I left though.
What area r u in?
What do u do for winter?
Amazing
Yep things got tough...Bet they're not left on the ground...Free lemon-water Everyday All day 🌱🍋💛
hi david Ive germinated a lemon seed its got two leaves on the top is this normal??????? please help????
Yes, that's right. You're doing fine!
I planted a seed last year and got twin seedling from it. I was little afraid to separate them cause i don't want to do any damage to them. I let them grow and they're growing fine. I recently planted them in a bigger pot. Should i separate them?
You can, or you can just prune one of them away.
You could also just let them grow together like the lemon/lime tree described in this video. It's a natural phenomenon when two tree's fuse together and become 1 tree that produces 2 fruit type. I'm doing it with my own lemon from seed that had multiple spouts because it's these exact seedling types where this phenomenon is most commonly found.
hi david how long for lemon trees from seed to germinate and fruit
Key limes can do it in three years, as can calamondins. My guess is lemons take the same or a little longer.
dear david I had to start a fresh batch of lemon seeds????? please help thank you
hi david ive had to pull the two leaves off
my lemon tree.Will they grow back. ive put a bag on the pot to protect it please help???????
I just germinated some seeds and planted them a few weeks ago, two of the four seedlings are albino completely lacking chlorophyll and white in appearance , and these two seedIings also happen to be twins from the same seed. I had one more seed from the same mandarin orange fruit that also produced twin seedlings from one seed. I sprouted several Bing cherry seeds last year that also were albinos all of which failed to thrive and died within a couple of weeks of emerging. You never know what you will get with a hybridized plant.
When life gives you lemons plant lemon trees
This is great. I tried growing a lemon tree from seed and I had about 12 plants, but once they were about 24 inches tall they grew thrones and the leaves had a strong lemon smell.
+zaneymay The thorns are normal for a seedling citrus. Citrus grow thorns when young, then as they reach a certain height and the tree top is safer from grazing animals, the amount of thorns goes way down. Grafted trees start with scion wood/buds that are from the mature part of a citrus, tacked onto a seedling roots stock... so the thorny phase of juvenile citrus trees is skipped altogether.
@@davidthegood
Grafted citrus are usually grown on Trifoliate (sour) orange rootstock for its hardiness and the thorns never disappear. In fact, here in south Texas, they used to plant it as a natural barrier and it's more effective than barbed-wire. If people don't keep the suckers from growing up out of the rootstock, they will eventually crowd out the grafted parts and the tree will once again be a thorn-laden tree with nasty oranges.
@@rickdavis2235 lol @ nasty orange.
seeds tend to be virus free. where as cuttings/grafted cultivars tend to pick up viruses over time that slow down there vigor
Do you have a problem with citrus greening disease? It has killed nearly all my citrus.
Yeah. It's killed a lot of the citrus in my area.
What if the seeds came from store-bought fruit? Will they still be viable?
Yes, they grow just fine.
David The Good thanks :) love your videos and enthusiasm. My husband and I already planted 4 fruit trees and are planting more from seed ❤️
I recon, they know what they are talking about, it is an unpredictable result. That is what it is. Similar to tomatoes, apples, strawberries. You can get a disappointing result. Of course, if you have lots of time and land, you can experiment and perhaps one day get the best-tasting variety. It's like claiming if one of the only people you meet is Einstein, to say everyone is. In other words, today's hybrids are mixed, and you are likely to get some other mix that or some sort of original-like variety. Do not mean to discourage you. Best of luck.
I would eat 🐓 🍗 to noisy
yes you can citrus grow tree from seed but you should consider this:
you won't get disease resistance especially to CTV virus or phytophthora
you have to wait 5+ years to taste the first fruit.
fruit maybe eatable but also maybe with other problems like misshapen or too small or have a very thick skin or it split when ripen
most often you seedling tree have less crop than commercial varieties
citrus trees from nurseries are not expensive
All those things don't matter much, though, when you know how to graft. I've never had any disease issues.
Not entirely true, you can just get superior genetics if you are lucky!
OR, we could just do it anyway because growing things is fun