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The Feral Predator seen within Prey is an interesting case and much debate has been swirling around concerning it’s subspecies, its status, and experience level.
In today’s video, I will be doing my best to compile all the information I can to give you the most detailed breakdown of this Yautja as well as a theory on it’s Blooded status, as I think I have a unique perspective on the matter which I briefly cover in my Deadliest Predator video.
For this video, I will be considering some lore from the Aliev vs Predator films as they do a lot of heavy lifting in the lore department. While these films are no longer considered canon, they do still help frame a lot of the Yautja history, rituals, and customs that help us understand more about them.
But before we dig into the Feral Predator specifically, let me give you a brief history of the Yautja themselves.
The Yautja are Apex Predators who hail from their home planet of Yautja Prime. The primary goal of all Yautja is to become an honored member of their species - and to do that, they must hunt the deadliest prey in the universe, the deadliest being, Xenomorphs.
All Yautja yearn to take down a Xenomorph and ascend to Blooded-Status which makes them well respected within their Culture. If a Yautja ever wants to venture out on their own unsupervised hunts, they must first prove themselves by stalking and killing a Xenomorph. Once the unblooded has done so, they return with the Skull and Spine of the alien and achieve the rank of blooded and are given their iconic shoulder-mounted plasmacaster. However, because of the plasmacaster’s overwhelming power, it is considered the least honorable way to kill prey on a hunt.
However, not all Yautja are made equal, there are various species and subspecies of Yautja that have evolved over time to suit their environment and predatory needs.
After becoming blooded, Yautja travel alone to various planets where they carry on with their ritualistic hunts - which include all manner of highly skilled warriors and the apex predators of other planets. They do this to continue their ascent up the ranks.
Yautja begin at Un-blooded. Once they’ve killed a Xenomorph they reach Young Blood or more commonly blooded. A young blood in some clans is un-blooded while in others it means a blooded Yautja who has just recently killed a Xenomorph.
The Feral Predator is a subspecies of Yautja that we’ve never seen before. As detailed in a thread of tweets from the Predator’s designer - Genetic isolation with different environmental pressures yields this variant of Yautja who adapted to a drier climate. - บันเทิง
Just a note: The Lost Tribe had other subspecies in it during Predator 2, so it wouldn’t be unusual for Greyback to recruit them! Scout was the Yautja’s name if you’re interested in looking him up!
I think the word is race. Like us humans don’t use the word subspecies we use race. Just don’t like the word subspecies as that sounds like the dogs tracker had as a sub species. Good video though
@@Mrhandyhitman the creators of the series call them subspecies. They’re more like dogs and wolves.
Two of the predators in the ship at the end of predator 2. Was adopted into grayback's clean. They was brothers. Their whole clan was killed by a rival clan and they were the only two to survive.
@@KeyIssues fair enough, can’t argue with the creators
@@Mrhandyhitman or you can think about like Neanderthals and homosapiens
I fully believe that this was the feral's first hunt after being blooded which is why he is so desperate to prove his skill and honour when compared to the jungle hunter who has assumadly been hunting for years they use different tactics the jungle hunter isnt trying to prove himself he is hunting for a challenge which is why he uses the plasma caster so much until his final fight with duch the feral is using close combat because he is fresh out of the ceremony and wants to prove himself
Either Young Blood or Blooded. Definitely his first solo hunt.
The cannon only seems fair and predator one I mean Dutch, and his men ain't using BB guns. Lol
His speargun is sick, but definitely not as powerful as a plasma caster
Great theory, no evidence to support that, especially since none of the EU stuff is canon.
The Jungle Hunter had been hunter in Valverde FOR DECADES, Ana said that her Grandmother would talk about finding their mean “LIKE BUTCHERED OR WORSE” and that this would happen only in the hottest years. That Pred was near Elite Level. Wayyyy above the class of the City Hunter and leagues above this Feral Predators experience.
Bit off topic but I love how the Predator wasn't able to kill the Grizzly bear straight away, the bear actually posed a decent threat as it would if it were real.
Indeed, but the way he did manage to kill it was absolutely badass! definitely better than that one comic were a predator loses to a bear twice, even when using his wrist blades and plasma caster
Decent threat? Scout knocked it out with a punch, even if he had a little trouble at the beginning, the bear didn't stand a chance at all.
@@tamas9554 The predator would 100% have died if the bear didn't underestimate and walk away, he had the pred by the neck.
@@ThatRevGuyy It didn't underestimate Scout, he just cloaked himself
@@tamas9554 Scout is the name of another Predator, a sniper/long range specialist, from the comics. This one's named Feral
The whole plasma caster thing could be that, given the Feral Predator is from a different habitat, his weapons may be more suited for his regional needs: he's from the desert, he relies on thermal vision, so the last thing he needs is another heat source blurring his vision.
Maybe even cultural differences within the species, same as humans, lead to different types of weapons used according to the region they come from. Or even just pure personal preference.
Idk, but love your content!
its also like 300 years before the original predator movie.
I feel this is the most plausible case for why the Feral Predator arms and behaves the way he does.
People (even the designer) postulating that the Feral Predator is a lesser evolved Yautja is less plausible to me bc it takes a lot longer to evolve than 300 years.
@@holyordersol2668 I mean it makes sense regardless irl there are still primitive isolated tribes living using primitive methods and technology
@@genocyberia619 I am aware of that, but among such tribes we know of, they are not prehistoric people's (as in possessing physical bodies of, for example, Neanderthals).
@@holyordersol2668 I think they meant technological evolution not quite physical one apparently they did do a pass for a unevolved predator but decided 300 years wasn't enough for a space faring species thats been shown to live 100's of years
From what I've read, the predators for the most part try to "match" the offensive capabilities of their prey. Hence the wrist blades and combi sticks to match the claws and tail of a xenomorph. Feral may have earned a plasma caster, but decided to use the more primitive version to match up with the arrows and muskets of the time.
I would like for feral to choose a weapon he knew how it worked so he didn't kill himself lmao
@@get-memed fr xd
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This is non canon. Anything involving Xenomorphs with the movie Predator species is just not true. They do not revolve their entire society around them or worship them because Predators do not exist within the same universe as Aliens do. Seriously why can't people separate Aliens from Predator?
@@MereelSkirata you are wrong. Xenomorphs are canon in the predator universe but predators are not canon in the alien universe
Personally, I think the reason the predator killed the fur trapper (Rafael I think his name was, the one who gave the flintlock to Naru) was because he surprised the predator. Remember the predator couldn’t see him due to the orange flower, so when the predator stepped on his leg and he screamed in pain, I think that startled the predator and he reacted by reflex. Similar to how some people throw punches when someone jump scared them.
Also regarding Naru defeating the predator, yes she had shot him point blank in the head, a major wound. But also remember, the predator takes a lot of damage through the movie. I think this predator takes more damage through the movie than any other predator in any of the movies. the wolf bit his leg and bear messed him up. The warriors from Naru’s tribe are able to stab him in the foot and the fur trappers are able to land several blows with their traps and muskets before being slaughtered. All of which takes place before his fight with Taabe. Taabe spears the predator through the shoulder which can be a crippling injury, then shoots the predator several times before being killed. By the time Naru actually fights the predator, he’s taken several serious injuries, he’s tired, lost a lot of blood and none of his injuries have had any time to heal.
It is nice that the weakest person to ever kill a predator did so to the most wounded/low tech predator we have ever seen. Kind of justifies why she was able to kill him.
@@joshuaashton1929 Still no small feat in my opinion. A wounded predator is still a predator. Being wounded may make it even more dangerous, similar to how a wounded animal Is more dangerous than a healthy one.
@@justuseverett2217 I don’t like how he was killed. How does he not know that the spike WILL NOT hit something if the laser isn’t pointed at it? He already saw an example of it. Best explanation is the bullet caused brain damage. But his intelligence didn’t seem to visibly decrease in any way so is he just a stupid predator? They needed to establish in some scene that the spike will hit wherever he points it if his tracking is off.
@@joshuaashton1929 I’m just guessing about the technology, but I assumed the gun/bow thing didn’t need the laser to work. If the laser wasn’t on then it’d work like any other projectile.
@@joshuaashton1929 I'm guessing the laser thing only activates at close range and the pred didn't have any idea about the helmet being near him when he takes the shot.
That being said, the amount of luck needed to pull that off is insane
the more I watch Prey, the more things I find little things I love about the lore of the Yaitja. Also, this might sound silly, but the teenage daughters and wife love Naru, and I haven't seen them cheer for the hero overcoming and killing the villain since Brody blew up the shark in Jaws. I'm very happy the movie showed a lot of that indigenous spirit. And I find it fun that everyone in the whole house is enjoying watching this movie a lot.
Just to keep films chronology aligned with one another. I'd argue that the Feral Predator is simply the first of his clan and subspecies to hunt on Earth, and that other predators have visited the planet before.
This is actually correct. Dan Trachtenberg has said that he didn't intend for it to be a major origin for the Predator, just that this is the Feral Predator's first hunt on Earth specifically.
Yeah I just assumed it was THIS Predator’s first time on Earth. Not necessarily the first time that any Predator has been to Earth
Honestly was one of the things that originally gave me red flags when the trailers hit, but I did give the movie a shot and I think it’s really good. Still a tad annoyed by the retcon of 1718. Mostly because Predator 2 is my favorite, the comic really resonated with me, and Disney has seriously soured my mood to retcons of previous works. Perfect example being the old Star Wars EU.
@@cpt.s.seiden I agree about the 1718 retcon. They should have done their homework (bc they stated they were not aware of the comic) and then left the pistol alone, or at least tie the comic book’s story in with the movie.
@@cpt.s.seiden yah there was some talk about it and mentioned away of fixing that to fit in but I don’t believe they can make that work like at all
The thing that bothered me about the ending was that she didn’t take the arm with her. She seemed like she would have the mindset to see value in the weapons the Predator had against either more of its kind or the colonists that encroached on their territory. On the other hand, she may have been ‘encouraged’ to return the body and all of its tech to the clan.
I though it would have been bad ass if Naru walked back to greet her clan wearing the predators mask.
Damn right I'd be keeping that tech. I would think it would be fair to keep and use the tech for yourself and tribe, but there's more honor in returning the body. I'd like to see a Yautja vs a samurai or ninjas.
it seems like the tech is genetically bound to the predator making it unusable by humans
@@kristophermartinez5088 If that were true then Harrigan in Predator 2 wouldn't have been able to use the throwing disc nor would Naru's brother have been able to use the spear/combi-stick.
The creators forgot about that part I think, not really surprising since there are a lot of details they didn't care about. One example is how in Predator 2, the yautja clears the skull from the flesh manually, but here it just uses some spray. And this takes place almost 300 years before the second movie happened.
I think the reason it doesn't have a plasma caster is due too
A. It's name as a "Feral Predator" so it may prefer more close quarter combat and maybe it's clan does not have that many high tech stuff per say
B. It's bit of origin we get from the creator may indicate that the feral predators are a sort of outcast or disconnected group of Yautjas from the main clans
It adapts to the enemy
@Toodaman in 87 The Predator came with a plasma caster because the humans had mini guns and machine guns
300 years ago they used bows and spears, so came the Predator to be a equal fight.
He fought the natives with spears
He fought the bear with bare hands
When he fought the wolf he put himself down to be at his same level
To be honest, i watched prey several times and the second time he had the skull of the rattlesnake on his belt but it was hard to make out since they are small and when naru shot him and took his mask he was more mad that she took his mask without killing him and just running away, and when he cut off his arm accidentally he wanted to end the fight quickly to not get more injured for how dangerous she is, but overall he fought with honor and so did naru in the end despite just using tactics to her advantage
He killed with way too much skill in close quarters. He was extremely reckless but dangerous. I think it was just his Style and personality. He’s definitely blooded but probably a young blood. In the bear fight he got whooped for a second for being Reckless and Overly aggressive but then Immediately switched up his style of fight and took the bear out with one strike. Same thing happened against The guy at the end.
Key issue and predator content? Hopefully you guys can expand to the alien franchise.
So, just a little correction for sake of clarity: It's Feral's first hunt, not the species'. Dan Trachtenberg confirmed this.
"This isn't, 'Let's tell the origin of the Predator.' This is really something that's set prior to the original Predator movie, and the Predator creature in this one, this is its first time travelling to Earth." - Dan Trachtenberg
Additionally, though you may be doing so, I really don't think we should be taking the comics into consideration for movie continuity. Considering the movies have a pretty strong habit of ignoring them anyway. By all accounts from the films, AvP is still canon to the Predator films.
Can we decanonize 2018 avp isn't canon to atleast the alien universe predator universe is debatable
AVP's not canon though. Unless they introduce time travel it cant be. Covenant is considered canon, but it takes place after AVP. The Xenomorphs in AVP are already the evolved form of Xenomorphs that shouldnt exist until after Alien 3.
@@trebot9292266same could be said about the xenomorph skull that appears in "Predator 2". But this movie goes out of the way to show that Predator 2 happens. "Covenant" is canon to the Alien films exclusively. Which actually causes more problems in that timeline than it solves, considering David couldn't have been the one to invent the xenomorphs by what we learned in "Alien". That being said, the xenomorph tail spear is in "The Predator". That means that, to the Predator movies, AvP happened. There are two distinct timelines.
@@kampy19 forgot that flaming garbage was canon. we can only hope they scrub it from the timeline. 1, 2 and Prey being the only ones to remain in canon.
An explanation for the crossbow instead of the plasma caster that I liked is "personal preference". There are many gun owners here in the states but they don't all keep the same type of gun. This tribe or individual might just like arrows better
Its a magnetic energy weapon not a crossbow.....
No strings.
I believe he was blooded and I totally forgot about the ranking in their species. The fact he was very skilled he held his own shows that he hunted xenomorphs before.
I heard a fun theory that Gray-Back was so enraged that a predator had its head taken as a trophy that his tribe wiped out the Comanche village and that's how he ends up with the pistol.
I see this as 100% canon now.
I can’t see the writers or executives allowing this given how widely praised Prey is.
At *most*, it’d be done off-screen and after-the-fact.
(But it seems plausible enough.)
Btw to add up. Imagine a shot where greyback comes from the smoke of the currently burning village towards naru, stabbing her while she is trying to shoot the gun and just take it after the deed. After retrieving the head you see him roar in the air with his fellow yautja
Some ppl thought it was strange that the predator was killing animals. But considering that it was that predators 1st time to earth, how would it know that humans are at the top of the food chain.
You’d think an interstellar spacefaring race centered around hunting would have at least a little information about the fauna of the planet they’re visiting for hunts, so as not to break their strict laws.
Breaking a honor code, even by accident, warrants a commitment to suicide. If the Yautja is unwilling, other Predators are sent to ‘assist’.
It's not about who's on top of the food chain, its about what's a fair fight. The bear was the only animal that stould a chance.
Not to mention that all preds we’ve seen have little skulls necklaces and what not, so it makes sense for him to kill a few snakes.
When the hunter hunts. how strange
I’m very glad this video was made! I always had a sneaking suspicion the feral predator was likely more experienced than a young blood at least, but lacked the clarity to point it out. i really do enjoy his habit of getting getting into personal grapples with his prey while not being afraid to get nicked.
in defense of the feral predator killing the one legged guy. We have to keep in mind that the feral predator was the one to cause that injury while the man was armed. By right of shedding his blood The predator should be allowed to Finnish of his prey. If the guy had actually recovered and left the area like days later that’d be a different story I guess,
I like the Feral Predator and the Prey movie, but I do miss the practical effects of the OG Predator movie. Liked the video btw.
The Feral Predator is mostly practical
@@KeyIssues , But it looks CGI all the way through to Me!
@@eddysandland58 What looks CGI? Cuz the entire Predator is practical effects and every fight scene is too (Aside from the animals).
I could be wrong but didn’t the director clarify that this was this predators first time on earth and that others had been to earth before.
Yes the director said that the trailer confused a lot of people
great video man keep up the good work
he's my favorite predator coz this pred is badass and the design is dope
I really dig how the Feral Predator is a desert dweller, but I would have liked to have seen a design akin to the original Jungle or City Hunter under the mask.
I actually really enjoy the new look, it's sort of like how humans have races or dogs have breeds. Predators from different parts of their home world look different. It opens up more possibilities for future variations and just seems more realistic then what we've got in previous movies were Predators are splicing their DNA with other spiecies.
@@willmiller82 I agree, I also think this look was Just way more badass
I always thought that the Feral Predator used the "Crossbow" and his melee as a preference to him specifically. Kind of like how some people like to hunt with hunting bows instead of guns.
It's lowkey hilarious how Naru hands down fought & beat her Predator in the most intelligent and strategic way out of every movie protagonist thus far; but *certain people* swear up and down that it makes no sense.
my main issue with narus fight is the fact that feral was too stupid to understand his own technology and how it works, and the fact that it started snowing right when naru needed the cold to survive is a little iffy to say the least, i still think dutch is the best predator survivor and his battle seemed alot better and more planned and well, fought than almost any other predatagonist (royce, naru, harrigan, lex, mcenna ect) EDIT: yes I do know how his head got shot in the back of the head, I still don't think even that would prevent him from understanding red dot means bad, but even without that screw up, feral would still die to bloodloss, still a good fight tho
@@biggyr6252 To be fair...you wouldn't be thinking straight after a round to the head either
@@biggyr6252 Well, Feral got shot in the head frame one of the fight. Giving the most generous assumption of the injury, I'd say him being "blinded with anger and pain" explains why he was slow to realize she set up his helmet as a trap.
The snow is pretty inconsequential, considering she'd eaten the plant that lowered her body temperature. It's not like she really hid after the fight started, so that's really just scene dressing; like how it rained at the start of Wolf fighting the Predalien in AVP:R.
@@biggyr6252 I thought that was ash? The French burnt part of the forest because they were trying to kill the Feral
You’re a black power weeb coomer don’t try to act like you have a high horse bruh
This was a very good video, well done!!
I don’t think the plasma blaster is “not invented yet” as those ships are pretty advanced.
It seems like they could be taking certain weapons and excluding others based on the planet. That cloaking device is also advanced
Bound by honor and fearless. But after he was heavily injured he was careless, that's why he lost.
While in the meanwhile Naru gains more experience and focus. Was proven before that humans have the ability to outsmart the Predators.
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Let´s just be honest here, Feral is an impulsive fool who underestimated every living creature on Earth. Not one fight he managed to leave unharmed, he was less hunter and more like a thrill seeker.
He didn’t even expect the wolf to go at him so quickly. It completely caught him completely off guard even though the wolf’s charge was telegraphed and easy to see coming.
@@joshuaashton1929 The wolf would've never have gone for him, poor writing.
Each clan has somewhat different tech and type of weaponry, which makes me like to think. That as a warrior they design, build and customise some of their weaponry themselves (individually not the whole clan) to suit them or make them stand out as an individual and as right of passage as a hunter.
10:15 don’t forget that the Feral Predator also took a ton of damage before this, I mean it’s own weapon had deeply penetrated it. I don’t care who you are getting hit by something like that in that particular way is going to make you weak and tired.
Animals fought feral predator because they could smell and sense it. The feral Yautja is dishonourable because when he kills humans he was (in the most part) cloaked. He kills Taabe whilst cloaked and from behind him too. That’s what a badblood would do. It’s a unique hunter because he picks and chooses his codes of honor as he goes. Some of his kills seem juvenile and others works if mastery. Great look at this kind of hunter. /_\
It's the first time THIS particular Yajuta had visited Earth as clarified by the director.
Id be cool to se a sub species of predator that hunts in cold weather
Yeah, A cold weather sub-species that is covered in dense fur.
Hell yea and has equipment for the cold weather
I'm glad that more and more people are getting into Predator with the success of Prey, like Key Issues; but as a older fan, I have a few issues with the overall analysis.
00:36 AvP is still considered Canon, to the Predator universe at least. This is supported by more examples than a quick rundown in a Marvel Comic that may also be incorrect. The AvP Requiem Movie has a special feature in it's extras that serves as a In-Universe dossier that details events from all Alien, Predator, and AvP films and some outside media like the Concrete Jungle Video Game at the time of AVP Requiem's release.
The Wolf Predator from AvP Requiem also appears in the Predator: Hunting Grounds Video Game alongside a detailed biography that establishes that the events of the AVPR movie occurred in the game's setting, which is in the year 2025 and officially continues the story after The Predator. The game also has definite Lore from recordings by a older Dutch, Sean Keyes from The Predator, and even Isabelle from Predators.
(The Marvel Comic's Timeline may be incorrect due to the Hunting Grounds establishing that Predators may takes place around 2024 due to Sean Keyes describing Isabelle spending to around a year on the Game Preserve Planet. That combined with her Lore Tapes and In-Game Biography, there is no way Predators does take place in 2010. The Year was never even obvious within the film so the writer must have took the release year and ran with it.)
3:47 Completely unsubstantiated. Even the Director themselves have confirmed that this was this particular Predator's first hunt on Earth, not the first Predator to arrive on Earth, despite what the marketing said to drive attention.
5:37 I would have waited to see what the NECA figure for Feral would have said, as well as the Ultimate Greyback figure to really start going for this but it's a cool theory, not a lot of concrete information. It would be very hard to place any Lost Tribe member, at least Greyback there.
6:09 The City Hunter being Blooded is a little inconsistent with the Hunting Grounds game calling him a "Youngblood" but there's honestly little difference since he was "newly Blooded" like the NECA bio says. I personally don't believe Feral was Blooded for a reason. Let's say City Hunter was Blooded and was easily killing gang members in the beginning of the movie. Feral was taking his time in analyzing a snake, wolf, bear, and then ended with human. I can get the "showing off for clan" thing, but different clans work in different ways like you have mentioned with the blooded naming conventions so Feral taking the time to study Earth creatures and being characterized by this after supposedly killing a creature known for surviving on pure, cold blooded instinct doesn't make much sense to me.
9:00 Director has stated that Feral not having a Plasma Caster doesn't mean that the Plasma Caster was not around during that time. He just thought the weapon was too OP. Also like before, different clans work in different ways. The Isolated Clan from the AvP Movies do not work the same way as the Jungle Hunters or in the same way as the clan that Feral belongs to does.
Overall though, I enjoyed your video and like seeing a new voice enter the discussion.
Naru winning is actually impossible. Some people brought up that Scout forgot how does his weapon work, and that he couldn't have killed Naru with it because his helmet wasn't on his head, and although this is still a fair point, its not the best example. The Predators (including Scout) are monstrously strong, strong enough in fact to best a grizzly bear in close combat. Then, how can Naru survive being punched into the ground by one? She just walks away like if nothing happened, while she should have had her spine broken.
A predator can never be stronger than plot armor.
I'm p sure a bitchslap from any Predator would shatter Naru's bones, let alone a full-force punch or a kick
I don't think it "forgot" how its weapon worked, more like it wasn't thinking clearly. Remember, it took a lot of damage throughout the movie, getting bit, mauled, shot and stabbed multiple times, getting hit in the head with its own club/sword from a guy riding a horse, having that same weapon stabbed all the way through its shoulder and chest, having its arm cut off and last but not least, getting shot in the back of the head at a close range. I think it would be fair to assume that it would be very tired after all that and might just be throwing a tantrum at that point. So even though it is still a monster to fight, it would be weaker and less competent than it was in the beginning of the movie. She should've been hurt more though, I do agree with that
Very informative. I didn't know a lot of that stuff.
I feel like Feral's probably a Young Blood, maybe freshly Blooded. It's the Predator universe, so you kinda have to ignore AVP canon. Unblooded would imply he's completely inexperienced, which he clearly isn't. He clearly has a preference for melee combat, and hubris is straight up the reason he chose to engage most in close quarters. However, there were some blatant mistakes on his part (wolf bite, bear knocking him down, getting caught in traps) that indicate he may thrive on injuries during the fight, but he isn't a perfect fighter and battle rage gives him tunnel vision. Then his screw ups with his spear gun indicate that not only is he inexperienced with it, but that it might have been his very first hunt using it. He forgot numerous times that the spears were laser guided, or simply misjudged how strong the tracking was. He's a mostly honorable hunter, with some mistakes that he likely would have been punished for. Cloaked fighting against animals may have been permitted since it was deemed that animals can sense him past the cloak. Feral killing Raphael may have been forgiven considering the scream may have reminded Feral of the Comanche war cries and even startled him. The way he killed Taabe was dishonorable. He was right to cloak when injured, but he should have either disengaged to heal, or re-engaged head on. Stabbing him from behind while he was distracted would have been cause for penalty. All in all, he's a really neat take on Yautja culture.
Raphael took part in the ambush, and up until 5-10 minutes prior was armed with the pistol, its not really clear if he had any other weapons. He was also a male who seem to get considerably less leeway then women.. I don't think killing him would be considered unhonerable by his tribe.
100% agree on the case of Tabe’s death. That was undoubtedly dishonorable and grounds for death. Even mistakenly killing Raphael can be considered breaking the honor code, since it does not matter if it is a mistake.
Did we all collectively forget the predator's entire point is it kills without being seen? The first movie majority of the kills are done by suprise
Just rewatched this the other day, well done movie.
I do agree what you have said but When I first saw the movie I thought the predator was more of a brawler because of the excitement or adrenaline he gets from it.
In the comics, have Predators ever hunted Engineers? I’d love to see that hand to hand brawl.
frigging LOVED this movie. I loved his skull helm and shield as well.
I don't think it retconned anything having to do with dropping off unblooded Yautja. Different clans do things differently
Exactly
There's this review I read of Prey... Some dude just blatantly saying "The pred in this movie runs around on the ground like a stupid newb instead of sticking to the treetops". Like, bruh... How many trees exist on a hot, desert land?
This video makes so much sense, story wise. I love Predator lore.
Great analysis
the only reason i thought he may be recently blooded but still a youngblood was because it would make sense in his parallel to naru, showing that this is both of their first true experiences hunting to prove themselves to the clan. maybe the predator did kill a xenomorph, but only barely (or in an unhonorable way) kindve like how naru basically killed that lion only to get knocked out from falling out of the tree and having her brother finish the job… so both of them had 1 unhonorable kill and then were tested with a true hunt (each other) to determine which one was truly worthy
What many forget is that the director stated that it was this predator's first time on Earth, not the first time for the species itself
it was a good movie,can’t wait for the part 2 of this one,they always retrieve the body and technology
I think the Feral Predator is my new favorite Predator. I love the new design and weapons. Looks similar to the Berserker in a way.
In regards to the xenomorph blooding ritual i do think that has been retconed.
Blooding might just be a case of hunting something considered a challenge ie. a river ghost or a clever human or some other alien out there in the galaxy.
Or different tribes do things differently, the amazing thing abt preds is that u can just say the tribes have diffrent ways
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That is true too the popularity of the kill xenos might be because they are easily delt with.
8:12 I always just thought he scared him and his reaction was "O shit!" 🤣🤣
I will say, this predator was impressive, he was bitten by a wolf, mauled by a bear, shot with arrows and bullets, and took a shot in the back of the head all before the final fight. Big guy took some major hits before going down.
Don’t forget stabbed through the foot and shoulder
@@icebreaker5138 I also found it insane that when he lost his arm he acted like someone spilled his coffee. He just saw it as an inconvenience
I really liked this approach to the feral predator using weapons that aren't as technologically advanced as we see in other movies.
I'd love to see that happening in the avp movies, a predator like the feral predator vs. Aliens
Regarding the canonicity of the AVP films. If you look closely at the lab in The Predator 2018, you can actually see the spear Lex used in the first Alien vs Predator, so those movies are still canon as long as The Predator remains canon.
Not really - an Easter egg can easily be ignored. Disney removed them from the timeline
@@KeyIssues I mean u can just say there different tribes that do stuff differently.
@@KeyIssues the Xenos are canon in the predator universe but predators are not canon in the alien universe
He’s monstrous and probably a little psychopathic, even for a predator. He goes out of his way to put himself on perilous situations and I think his choice of weapons reflects this. He loves violence and domination.
If I was a clansmen of the Feral Predator I was impressed especially when he fights and kills the bear that scene was awesome.
Love this vid, can we plz get 1 on the other sub species like the super predators and the assassin 🙏
if you could do some more predator and xenomorph videos that would be dope!
I think it was the first time a Yautja came to Earth in this version, because AVP and Requiem are not cannon. Hence killing every other threat like the snake, the wolf, the bear, and finally humans. Working up the foodchain if you will.
I love that the Predator was almost designed to look like a WENDIGO, and when Naru heard the ship in the sky she mentioned hearing the "Thunderbird" stuff like that is so effin kool to me.
I'm glad someone else is finally able to recognize the timeline changes and discrepancies made by Prey. People keep lumping the various continuities together, but it's not that simple when new movies are introduced which serve to retcon past films. While I appreciate what the AvP films brought onto the lore, I always felt like they seemed out of place in the timeline with both film series, and it worked in Prey's interest to simply retcon its history by making the Feral Predator the first Predator hunt on Earth. Similarly, even Prometheus and Alien: Covenant have gone on to retcon the AvP films from the Alien film canon.
Also, I agree that although Feral Predator was arrogant, it was an experienced hunter and most likely blooded. Rather it's worth noting that since Prey is working under the assumption that this is the first time a Predator hunted on Earth, it meant that the Feral Predator it was still learning from this new environment.
Not the first time Predator's have come to earth. The director specifically brought up that it was this feral Predator's first time coming to Earth, not the species.
For all we know Feral is a Hish hunter instead of a Yautja hunter. The skull he wears as a mask could be part of a Amengi skull. This might also explain the different facial features and slimmer build Feral had vs Jungle/City and Berserker.
Why did the water not affect the cloaking as it did in predator? and ash did? was it a more advanced type of cloaking than the one in predator? I always wondered this after seeing prey
I believe that all the predator helmets would be functioning in the same manner as the ferals did. It just so happens that their helmets were locked and a simple blow to their heads wouldn't have taken them out.
I also believe that the events which transpired during the end of prey forced the yautjas to invent the locking mechanisms for theirs helmets as they saw the design fault of the feral predators helmet through the live transmission.
i agree i think he was blooded and just wanted to prove himself even more since he was young
Part of the fun is the mystery connected to their honor system. We might not always understand the intricacies of how it works.
I'm with you on thinking the Predator is blooded. The idea I have about the lack of the plasma caster is that the weapon would be too big of a cheat against the primitive weapons of the natives. The predator showed himself to be honorable and took a more conventional ranged weapon on this hunt
Definitely Blooded, but still looking to prove himself. Showing off by doing stuff like hurling the bear trap. Wading into combat like a berserker.
Feral was awesome, and if his ego was better tempered he would have been a force of nature. I chalk it to the pride of the young. He had the potential to be another Wolf.
When/where was or does this movie get released? I looked for it on Amazon Prime (video) and I have had no success finding it…………
That bear scene was so badass 😍
I think the whole theory that the bolt caster he had in this movie makes sense. They could tie the movie into a sort of interstellar situation. Like the tech in 300 earth years advanced quite a bit but on their planet it could have been thousands.
Thank you!! Feral took massive amounts of punishment prior to his final face off against Naru. She couldn't brute strength it of course, but she didn't have the "Mary Sue" plot armor that these crybabies speak about. She didn't even have the crazy amount of plot armor Dutch had in the OG Predator lol
I thought he was basically scouting out the competition to see what was the strongest prey on earth, essentially being like a crash test dummy gathering information.
A predator vs samurai sounds awsome and can work, in the movie predators the yakuza finda an old samurai katana and i thinl he says "they have been doing this for a long time" if a remeber correctly
from my viewpoint, feral seems more like a bad blood than a blooded hunter. for one, he breaks the honor code a couple times by killing the cowering unarmed frenchman, attacking in normal (non stealthy) combat while cloaked, and killing prey as low as snakes. from my first impression on him, with him being dropped off on earth and his ship immediately flying away, i had assumed he had been marooned by the rest of his clan. we've seen this in the comics before, with bad bloods being stripped of their gear and left on a planet to fend for themselves. even when his clan was coming back in the credits, i had assumed that it was to retrieve the tech naru had potentially exposed to humans. but, i realized that it was likely to imply that the clan was coming back to kill naru. why would they do this if they werent bad bloods? they usually come back and respect their dead yautja, take the tech back, and reward the killer in some way. if they were coming back to kill her, it'd be out of spite instead of honor. maybe the desert yautja are ones that have been outcasted because of their bad blood nature? it'd make sense, they'd theoretically have contact with the rest of the yautja and be able to improve their tech by this point, like scout's subspecies. in general, it seems like they're almost completely different from normal yautja, in both honor and technology. maybe they're all currently spacefaring because of being driven off of yautja prime by enforcers?
i feel like bad bloods are a big part of yautja lore that's being overlooked when theorizing about this movie.
I am very surprised that many have not considered that Feral may be a Bad Blood, and instead try their damnedest to justify his blatantly dishonorable kills as being otherwise.
• The snake kill, i can deem as wholly in self defense, since the Predator does nothing but stay still before being attacked.
• The wolf kill is less forgivable bc he clearly goes to intercept the wolf, causing it to crash into him, which is instigation. It falls into the realm self defense once the wolf bites him though, so ultimately it’s a bit murky. I’d still say the wolf kill is more dishonorable than not, considering the huge difference in strength between the two.
• Bear kill - Although a much fairer match than the prior two, iirc, the Predator attacked the bear while it was preoccupied with Naru. That’s not very honorable. I could see it as forgivable if the Predator was going to eat it for food, but it was clearly a trophy kill (as marked by his victory posturing). Kind of up in the air on the honor part since they do brawl it out.
• French Trappers - Slaughters the ones lying in wait while cloaked and from behind. Dishonorable. Trappers fought in the open and head-to-head, while outnumbered? Honorable.
• Raphael - Killed while crippled and unarmed. Mistaking his scream for a war cry is still dishonorable. Yautja honor code does not distinguish mistakes, last i read. Dishonor is dishonor. Feral also knew he was alive bc he could still hear his heartbeat and see his human-shaped outline, as well as the trail of blood leading directly to him.
Tabe - Dishonorable, no two ways about it. Tabe proved to be a worthy foe, and Feral cloaked at the climax of a fight to reposition and backstabbed him while cloaked.
• Big Beard - Sort of dishonorable. Big Beard was, like Raphael, severely crippled. If not for Naru signaling the Predator down (which doesn’t make any in-universe logic, herb or no herb), and Big Beard attempting to defend himself with a busted musket, this veers closer to dishonor due to it being taking an easy kill, given Naru set it up for him.
@@holyordersol2668 the use of cloaking in general, for me, is one of the biggest bad blood parts of this movie. 90% of the time, close combat or not, he's cloaked. how is it fair at all for him to be fighting people with pointy sticks while he's invisible and has a separable metal spear??
@@SamOfSaturn I can't say the use of cloaking in and of itself is dishonorable, since the Predator species use it quite liberally across all the films, but when engaging worthy prey in hand-to-hand combat (especially during the peak of a fight), is considered dishonorable. The Feral Predator does this many times, to both humans and wildlife.
The usage of separable combii stick (the metal spear), I don't see as dishonorable on its own, but while cloaked, is another thing. Tbf, he does sort of disengage the cloak pretty soon after he kills the possum hunter.
If we're talking about realistically though, many people don't realize how much depth perception plays into hand-to-hand combat. It's easy to watch from the sidelines where you have a calm and full view of things, but when you're in the first-person thick of things, it is not easy to gauge the distance of an opponent (let alone their weapon(s)) while fighting for life & limb. I couldn't imagine how much more difficult it would be to engage even a half-cloaked combatant in close quarters. It's hard enough with visible targets.
There's a lot of predator comics that I'll like to see become a movie or TV show because there's one predator comic that is a sequel to the first movie and it takes place after Dutch recovers from the explosion from the jungle hunter predator and more predators come after him and Dutch's brother comes and helps him
i think he was blooded like u said, and i think his aiming darts on his wrist were primitive to the plasma cannon seeing it was a few hundred years before we start seeing the plasma cannon.
This is where the fun begins
I think the bear trapper kill was a mercy kill. He was one of the people he slayed in a fair fight, but his attacks didn't kill him. so that's why he did it
I think he was an unblooded predator and this was his first hunt, also he was way to overconfident which led to his defeat he couldn't have killed a xenomorph to become blooded because they aren't canon anymore. I think he was sent there to find the most challenging opponent, and bring its head to make him blooded.
The main reason I think he is inexperienced is how did he not know how his own Weapon worked at the ending of the movie
@@timmy2tone469 he did know how his weapon worked. What he didn’t know was that his helmet was set up to point at him when he fell in the mud pit. He literally had no idea the lasers where on him until after he fired the bolts from his weapon. By the time he realized that it was too late to dodge them.
@@Jaden_The_Celestial why would he try to use it without his helmet
@@Jaden_The_Celestial He definitely shows unfamiliarity or just being unskilled. He used his darts a lot without the laser and he misses all the time without the lasers.
@@timmy2tone469 same reasons other predators use the plasma caster without their masks lol. They still fire and kill people without the laser only difference is his mask was still working and aiming at him without him knowing lol.
There is one dishonorable kill at the end! Its the last human he killed in the film. The guy did point a weapon at Scout, that is true, however it didn't fire and Scout knew that. He actually killed a crippled human who posed no threat to him, and that wasn't by accident like with the translator.
I’m sure he didn’t know how the weapon worked or if it was a misfire. Not dishonorable in my book.
@@KeyIssues He had to know, he hunted humans and the weapon even clicked and didn't fire
Are we ever going to get a predator movie where the predator wins?
Their honor code is dubious but I think if they know they fought and injured you before they consider the fight ongoing and you fair game unless you make it blatantly obvious you won't put up a fight
Which is easier said than done
So do they have to kill xenomorph in order to become blooded because I've heard other versions saying that they just need to hunt alpha prey like xenomorphs
Heard that feral has a big claw mark on his back i don't know if it is true. Feral is pretty cool breed
Now that they both have a third season, you should do a VS video on the seven (the boys) and the umbrella academy
Yautja must be a pretty old race do to evolving many subspecies considering how long they can live.
Well I would love to see and hear about a totally different type of species that live in the desert regions almost like the people in other parts of the world and also he is blooded because typically only the young ones travel in groups of 3 and on there first hunt he was alone so that typically makes him blooded if you follow the typical lore of there kind. But anyway I think it would be fantastic to see a whole new species of them living on the outskirts of the cities like you saw in avp where wolf came back from a huge city like place just to see them like the native americans used to live would be fantastic
I’m intrigued what animal/Alen the skull mask came from, also - predator in Africa… can you imagine!
I want to believe that it was the bear skull
Africa would be the best place for a hunt like this on the modern Earth actually. There most dangerous land animals could be found there afterall
@@tamas9554 Predator vs Hippo = epic
this filmed by my house, place is stoney park and morley rodeo center:)
It’s also highlighted by an actor that this predator is choosing to go back to basics, which might be why he doesn’t have the plasma caster
can you please explain how AvP is no longer canon even though they showed the alien spear that scar made for the main antagonist in The Predator?
Predator vs Knights. Awesome
I’ve always had a mind to have a difference when thinking of continuity in the Predator movies. Same with Alien. It’s not until predator 2 that we see the alien skull and actually the comics after started the AvP line of thought. I like having a timeline with out the two species didn’t meet. So now…
Prey, Predator, Predators
Then have…
Predator 2, AvP, AvPR
at least that’s my head cannon.
I would like to see a predator movie where the predator isn’t the antagonist and doesn’t die in the end
She won due to the almighty plot armor. The pred beats the bear hand to hand with immense strength but somehow can’t snap her neck.
I think the feral species have plasma casters as well, but the feral in prey probably wasn’t deemed worthy enough for one yet.
You should do a video about the Xenomorphs now