@@DuroMaxPower I'm only halfway thru the video, and YES, this is a great video that covers everything and it is well done. There are obviously a few minor things here and there, but those are just nitpicks, from an OCD guy !
Great video,I'm going to purchase a stand-by gen for our home and this explained the installation perfectly. I'm not that handy , so I'll be contacting professionals to do the install.
Paid a plumber to do all the connections and I can tell they ripped me off. I was doubting if I could do it but I did not see any videos at the time showing the process such as this. Seems very doable as I’m very handy. Good to know.
@@markgutierrez9295 ran bout 50ft mainly straight run and was given a bill of $1300. Should had just told plumber to tap to gas line and add a valve then I can handle rest but all hindsight now
When I bought my new house, I had the builder add a natural gas line to the back porch which I use for my tri-fuel generator/BBQ. During the Texas Freeze I was running the generator, gas furnace and gas cooktop without a problem.
Bought this great generator a little while ago. For the record I really like it! Works great and powers the entire house during a power outage. Obviously do the math and figure out what you want to use during a power outage. However, the only issue I want to report is you might need a bigger gas meter to use a natural gas connection to fuel your generator. Also recommend adding up all of the BTU's you plan to use during the Powe outage and then make sure your gas meeting can handle the additional 225K BTU's for the generator. So, if you buy the generator and it will not start on natural gas, call your gas company and get a bigger gas meter. Once I upgraded the meter the generator started up on the first crank. Best of luck!
The AC service tech did an excellent job explaining - very clear, detailed and organized on his thoughts. The other two guys were agonizing to try follow their sayings. Other than knowing why and how to install a hard start kit, the rest is not comprehended. The electrical section was the worst - I have no idea what he was doing because he did not explain anything!
I have a Duromax Dual Fuel 12000 W - I'd not used it until Hurricane Beryl hit Houston. It was brand new, and followed the start up instructions. When I plugged it into my house's interlock kit, and I started turning on a few breakers, inside I could smell burning. It fried many of the electronics on the lines I turned on. After the hurricane I had everything tested. It turned out the Generator was only putting out 153 when it should have been 240, causing the surge I'd experienced, frying many of the items in my house. Please test these before hooking it up to your house. Now I have a huge paperweight because I won't cause tens of thousands in damage to my house again.
Great video ! Very impressed with the detail of this step by step video. Can you please share a link to all items used in the process of making this video. Thanks
7:41 The quick and easy way to measure that. 1) Measure from the half way into the threads to the wall and subtract 3" that will put the ell against the wall. 2) If using a bracket measure the bracket subtract 3" from the wall and subtract the thickness of the bracket. The second valve is redundant, remove it, it will cause a flow issue.
Isn't an inverter generator necessary to protect electronic devices? Almost every product in a home today has a computer board. How is a Westinghouse generator safe without an inverter and does Westinghouse sell a tri fuel inverter generator? Thank look forward to your response.
They are not necessary for electronic devices. While putting out a cleaner signal todays portable, open-frame Generators are safe for most electronics.
How come 10 or so years ago I went to to the expense of having a transfer switch next to the breaker box put in when all you have to do is have that interlock on the box? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
This hurt my eyes. You are better off with a soft start kit for the air conditioner and is there an internal regulator for the natural gas in the generator ?Because I don't see one on the gas pipe itself.
Is a 250cfm meter and 125 ft of gas line from the meter at the road to the house enough volume for this generator? Mine is hard to start up but once running it’s ok. Only gas appliance is the kitchen stove.
For the XP13000HXT Generator the required fuel pressure at all load ranges are 6.0 - 9.0 inches of water column for Natural Gas. The BTU requirements are 225,000 BTU at full load.
When relocating breakers, it is obvious the wires are cut to the place it wire was set to. (What does 9ne do if the breaker wires are to short at the re location of the breaker?)
@@DuroMaxPower Thank you for you reply. It does make since and since I am not an electrician I will contact a certified one in my region before playing with such dangerous thing. Thanks again
You mentioned its runs in a raceway, after you drilled the hole, what did u insert for the wire to go through, and/or whats the connector on the panel where the wire first went through also, looked like a bushing?
Dependes on whether the generator is a floating neutral or a bonded neutral. Most need to be bonded neutral. Should be a sticker somewhere on the generator that will tell you bonded or neutral bonding. If neutral bonded it is very easy to convert it to bonded with a $5 part and short piece of 12 ga wire from any home improvement center, or you can look online an search _bonding plug for generator_ (not likely to find one of those at home improvement store)
Correct, when using the 50 or 30 Amp Outlet on the Generator with an appropriate Generator Cord the unit does not need to be grounded as it utilizes the Home Power Panel ground.
The regulator system in the generator is a "Zero Flow" regulator that will turn off the flow of gas into the engine if it is not running or shuts off unexepectedly. As always, for safety purposes it is suggested to turn off the natural gas supply at the valve installed by the plumber when the generator is not running.
Hard start kits help a home AC system even without a generator. We had one installed on a system after the first compressor failed within 5 years. After installing it, the next AC system lasted 15 years.
Nice setup but since that generator is bonded to the frame don't you need a ground rod at the generator when connecting to the service panel though your inlet box?
Where is the part of the video that shows the required pressure you need at your natural gas connection, testing to verify the pressure is adequate, and then adjusting as needed? That's SUPER important in this application.
Good video, but i installed a transfer switch next to my breaker panel . I can control which room i want powered. I am on propane , so i want to power certain rooms this will conserve on propane.
Glad you chose the option that works best for you! There is definitely more than one way to achieve power independence. Thanks for choosing DuroMax Power Equipment!
what size is the gas hose 3/4?.. I have a 30 amp set up and was going to change to 50 amp set up.. I have a soft start on my ac( awesome) but I have to go to a bigger generator and also a natural gas generator.. I'm writing this while on my 30 amp set up in Htown on day 3 without power from Hurricane Beryl!! Thanks for the video!! all the gas pipes are 3/4 for the hose and set up.. 1x3/4x3/4,?
Thus controlled. With hard start assist additional torque is added inline straight to compressor capacitor to start compressor. It's forced or a "hard" assist and not "soft" or controlled. I'm and HVAC specialist 20 plus years trade in.
The only flaw I saw in this video is the Cable from outside is not properly secured to the back of the Panel Box. The Inlet box on the outside is big enough to allow a Hole in the wall to accommodate a Cable Clamp. Thanks. Mike M.
Hello... These are included with the purchase of a DuroMax Tri Fuel Generator. However if needed to purchase, please call us at 844-DUROMAX and we can get you hooked up!
In my area, you cannot use galvanized piping as it flakes on the inside clogging any orifice or gas control valve, you need to use black iron pipe and paint it. When you paint the gas pipe, use some painters tape or old newspaper to pritect the exterior wall from paint, not like this plumber. You also never unthread a nipple like that, you can see he deformed it. It is always reccomended to change the gas meter gaskets once they become loose, you may need 10lt, 20lt or 30lt.
fairly straight forward production but fails to mention the size of the gas meter, which will be too small about 80% of the time. You'd be amazed at how much gas a gen set needs.
Thanks for watching! Due to the different applications and regions, customers are always advised to check with their local municipality for the most accurate information regarding their utility service capabilites.
Hello, thanks for great video. I see you used gas valve "matco norca 600 wog-150 swp" can you please post links to where I can purchase this but more importantly the gas pipe that connects to this valve and then in turn to the generator Natural Gas inlet. Appreciate if you can point me to right place to buy so I can avoid buying wrong items. Thanks
Hi There Here is the link to the valve: www.grainger.com/category/plumbing/plumbing-valves/shut-off-valves/ball-valves/manual-ball-valves?attrs=Max.+Pressure%7C600+psi+WOG&filters=attrs. The above valve and pipe will need to be sized to your specific meter so please measure and then the pipe will be available at most local hardware/plumbing store.
@@DuroMaxPower Thank you for quick reply - in the video there is specific call out to make sure to buy the hose that matches with valve, can you please list the hose that goes with that - as it was stated only those hose inlet nozzle can open the valve and hence a compatible hose should be brought with the item together
question i have a Druomax hybrid Elite DS 1300 EH DUAL FUEL. If i convert it to natural gas would it power up my Central air and refrigerator, TV and some lights????
Hi There! The DuroMax XP13000HXT Tri Fuel Generator currently goes for about $2,499 and is available from many of your favorite retailers. Check out our site for more info.
Question I just bought and received my new tri-fuel 13000 generator. Regarding the soft start, I have a 3.5 ton American Standard ac unit. Is the soft start a universal product, or do i need to purchase a soft start that is made by American Standard? Of course, I'm going to consult with an ac tech to install it. Just asking so i can purchase it. Thanks
It will be made by an aftermarket company - usually Microair. It does need to be compatible with your AC unit, but not the same brand as the soft start manufacturer-wise.
@DuroMaxPower I have another question. I just purchased and received my 13000 TRI-Fuel generator from yall. I see that the 15000 tri-fuel is being advertised. My 13000 is still in the box with the band wrapped around the box. If I want to send the new one back and pay the difference for the 15000 tri-fuel is that possible??? Thanks
Great video, however to be safe you must hire a professional plumber and electrician. Don't mess with gas is not worth getting hurt. Sometimes in life you got to pay for the safety of you and your family Cheeers
Depends on load and fuel used. Beryl caused 5days without lights. Wen11000/8300 gas generator. I made sure to tach my governor to 3600rpms and multimeter 60hz. My house with 2ceiling fans, 2 fridgerators, deep freezer,drink cooler, led lights, tvs & simple electronics 500watts running. 3.5ton a/c running is 3000watts. Without soft start 39amps with soft start 15amps 240v. A/c alone the generator gets 3½hr a gallon because I turned everything else off during the night. Used flash lights to conserve gas. The house with everything listed above gets 2hrs a gallon at 4000watts. It came out to roughly $32 in gas($2.99 regular) from 6:00am to 6:00am I have room for microwave, washer, dryer, dishwasher, air fryer. But I govern use 1 at a time. I dont want to be burning gas needlessly. Plus finding a station with gas is difficult in the beginning. I would not run the generator all day but the weaklings want it 24/7. My perspective is going to hotel/motel with power is no less than $89 a night plus every person is extra charge.
Also I dont want to run at max load because it will heat the windings to maximum tempertaure. I dont want to lose the only house generator to overloading. So I keep it to 65% for that reason. We are not in luxury times it is "emergency" so will operate on a different routine than normal. Bigger generator mean bigger fuel use & cost. Savings depleting cost. They have tv wifi a/c fridgerator and lights. Which is luxury in difficult times
That is correct, they do not allow you to tamper with them. However, nearly all gas companies allow for additions to be added on to the home owners side.
@@jamesdavison6394 In my area, the utility company installs block off plates inside the unions They are the only ones who can initially turn the gas on. After they remove the sealing caps and turn the gas on, they Install lead seals on the meter fittings, so the can tell if anyone has messed with it. It’s a pretty hefty fine out here. Guess it’s not a problem where you are.
@@rodgraff1782 yeah okay i hear that, i was being short. I'm a sparky, and i was dealing w/ PG&E out in bay area CA for 20 yrs. ... if i had to wait on them to change-over power most of the time i would have still not completed a portion of those jobs - i left there 3 yrs ago lol. I Fully understand Not messing w/ the Line side however. Thanks for your reply - Take Care out there
U do know about the on/off valve at the place matural gas pipe come out the ground. Also there is a main breaker to turn off power feed from power line😊
Great video! However, the install of the hard start kit was a bit disorienting because he spent a greal deal of time showing you how to make sure your unit is deenergized, then suddenly cuts to a scene where he shows the AC relay turning on and registering 34 amps. I was like, "Woah! he just unplugged it!"
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One caution 🤔🤔 These hi-watt open frame generators are *not* *_inverter_* generators. The voltage and frequency (60hz) vary considerably. While they may be fine for most electric motors, lights, hotplates, electric stoves, hair dryers, elec space heaters and some coffee makers and the like, it is *NOT ADVISABLE* to use this power for sensitive electronics. TV's , computers, chargers, maybe even HVAC or anything that needs a constant clean wave of 60 hertz pure sine wave. The 60 cycles per second on this type generator are like a runaway train. Electronics simply can not handle wide variations either side of pure sine wave power. One possible fix is a good high quality UPS (Universal Power Supply) for electroics. It may try to stabilze dirty power to cleaner sine wave. APC and ISO makes some good backup power supplies.
Hi There! While you are correct that the unit shown is not an inverter Generator, they are safe for home use as we have spent countless resources testing and the customer base to speak for it. We also agree that a full portable home power backup setup should include surge protectors and/or VFI UPS's which are also commonly used with utility power. While no power into a home is perfect, with the right precautions nearly all accidents can be avoided.
I have a uninterruptible power supply (UPS) on my electronics (computer equipment, routers, TV, cable box). My UPS's seem to beep & click when connected to the generator. I have a stupid power strip plugged into the battery backup side with items plugged into the strip. All I have to do is move one plug to the surge protector side. And then turn off UPS. Surge protector should still work.
@@rwstarke The reason your UPS is clicking is because it is not seeing a clean 60 cycle (stabilized) power load coming in. Your problem is a surge (voltage- either to high or to low) so much so it's seeing dirty power, varrying power (voltage) but moreso it's not seeing 60 cycle pure sine wave. The power strip will not fix that. It's risky w/ just power strip - all that does is (don't count on it) is protect spike voltage surge, *not* 60 cycle sine wave. In a way, it's good that the UPS is trying to do it's job...just to much flucuation. Best fix is an inverter generator or a good size power battery bank (some mistakenly call solar generators) They don't _generate_ anything.
@@avflyguy Thanks. I know why the APC UPS clicks. I just use the Surge Protection (with EMI/RFI Filter) side of the UPS and not the Back-up Battery side. I do have a couple 300W Portable Power Stations and solar panel briefcase for just in case emergency power.
@@rwstarke Ah- You should be good. I've been using the APC Back-UPS Pro 1000 VA and have very pleased with it. Keeps desktop, modem, switch, wi-fi running a long time, with 26 inch monitor off. During the Texas freeze out a couple of years ago, were able to keep internet going and used laptops/phones and it went a good 15-20 hours (very low load on) I still would not trust any electronics on a non inverter generator. I got a Champion 2500i inverter dual fuel, so now it'll be safe on all electronics and will keep the furnace running (nat gas).
The cost is higher but using a soft starter is better than a hard start and will extend the life of the outside unit. Also turn off some of the high amperage breakers and turn them on gradually after the generator power is running into the panel.
Lol was about to leave this comment. The in rush current is instantaneous and that meter he used is not able to detect the momentary current that the AC condenser actually pulls. I would guess it still has an instantaneous in rush of at least 40 amps, but it could be up to twice that. Micro Air East Start is the way to go and I have installed several, the other big bonus with soft start is that it will actually give your condenser a longer life as well 👍
yeah i dont understand why a start-assist is not a common feature of All ac units - would prevent the brown-out & system stress that happens several times a day in the hot months
@@jamesdavison6394 Probably because the manufacturers don't want people's AC to last longer than they already do. Hell, a good system should last you between 10 and 15 years. That's not a lot of turnover 🤷♂️
More then just a few things missing. A 5 ton unit does NOT draw 34 amps at start up. My 3 ton draws 102 amps LRA (Locked Rotor Amps) so I paused the video when you put the cover back on the A/C unit and can see LRA is 131 amps. Yes this is momentary, but the generator is going to see it. Your reduced power supply running on natural gas may not run it.
Great video! I wouldn’t put the generator on the curb for easy pickup. It might walk away in the middle of the night. REM to derate wattage output when running on nat gas or propane.
Wow, great video especially detailed on how to do the gas hook up. I did this install 3 years ago and wished this video existed. I know you're supposed to say call a professional, but it's totally a DIY job if you have the right tools and knowledge. This video did a great job explaining it. I have a xp12000eh modified for natural gas, a interlock 50amp inlet, quick disconnect on my gas meter, and a hard start kit on my hvac installed all by myself. I prefer this model generator as it's made for Tri-fuel out of the box vs modifying a Duel fuel to work as a Tri-fuel by installing a regulator.
@@chuckv978 I did a video on this a few years back, keep in mind the 12000 is different than 13000, but the concept is the same. th-cam.com/video/CNZIy6Mvv14/w-d-xo.html
@@DuroMaxPower I sure do have Videos th-cam.com/video/aGno6yIY5LI/w-d-xo.html & th-cam.com/video/CNZIy6Mvv14/w-d-xo.html . I made sure to tag you in these videos
I'm an HVAC business owner in houston. You need a soft start kit for your AC. Hard start kit helps but Soft start will dramatically decrease your starting amperage.
@@phucung2678 hard start kit is like a jump for you compressor. it helps you compressor turn on. I usually install this on weak compressors that are having trouble starting up. Soft start kit slowly starts you compressor giving you reduced starting amps. Therefore you can connect a Generator when needed and run your AC.
These professionals make the job of installing the gas line hook up and the electrical 50 amp breaker hook up look very easy but, in actuality, it's not as easy as it looks. You have to know how to do it correctly and that takes some knowledge know how to do it properly. If you think you can do the job, give it a try but, remember to have it inspected before you actually try running it. If you run into trouble, you can always call in the professional.
Thank you! I'm glad the video explained everything you needed to know. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask! Call us at 1-844-DUROMAX.
Please know Inverter generators are for your home use and power generators are for your power tools use!! Modern Appliances have chips that require inverters to handle fluctuation of loads, otherwise you could burn your appliances chips.
A very good general overview of the process to convert a home for using a tri-fuel generator. Of course, every state, local and city building codes will be different. Considering this work requires multiple utilities (gas, electrical, etc...) hire a professional contractor to complete this work. This video used 3 different men all from different contractors for a reason. This is not a do-it-yourself job for most people. Be safe, be smart and do it the right way.
I agree! I work for a gas utility and know just enough to be truly dangerous - lol. I would never attempt this as a DIY project. Think of the contractor cost as insurance to help you safely manage a power outage.
I live in Houston with a detached garage and natural gas. My gas meter is located on the front of the house to the left side and my electric meter located on the rear right outside side of the garage. My breaker box is located on the adjacent side of the electric meter inside the garage. My question is do I have to run a solid gas line underground, towards the rear of my house, where I need to locate my generator or can I use a quick connect and connect only when needed?
@DuroMax Power Equipment Great video - thank you! Question: at 11:34, the plumber describes a quick connect safety valve - it prevents gas flow even if the ball valve is open unless the hose is attached. I've searched online for that sort of connector but am coming up short. Can you post names of manufacturers and any model numbers? Thanks!
Hi There! We recommend checking Century Fuel Products or MB Sturgis such as this one: amazon.com/M-B-Sturgis-Inc-Generator-Disconnect/dp/B01N6NLDB6?th=1 Please ensure appropriate sizing based off your application. Thanks!
All the needed quick connect couplings are included with the generator. The female couplings have a poppet that is closed until the mating connection is made.
Why no sediment trap at the quick connect? Seems like it would be a good idea since the generator will potentially run for days and you won't always be out there to look after it.
@@DuroMaxPower Well, that's good enough for me. I am definitely going to put one on my upcoming install. I haven't seen any sediment traps at the quick connect at the meter on any of these TH-camr's videos. It's just an extra $10 in parts for peace of mind.
It's a great informative video! I just bought a Duromax XP9500iH. My electrical panel has bonded neutral and ground wires. Should I make any electrical alterations to install a 50-amp outlet?
Not bad but let’s address a few things that may not have been mentioned or overlooked #1 now that a load is being added to the system let’s calculate the total BTUs, including the new generator and determine if the gas meter can handle the total load (this may include a call to the local gas utility to let them know your intentions on adding a load; especially if their computer system is set up for spike load readings). #2 those things on top of the meter are not called unions they are referred to as meter nuts. #3 let’s try to use an adjustable wrench on those service valves, pipe wrenches tend to marr the brass lugs on service valves. # 4 let’s try to incorporate a sediment trap at the generator and hose connection. And #5 it’s recommended that you take gas pressure readings (lock up & working) , this would involve all the gas appliances in the house plus your newly installed generator (running all at once for working pressure).Hope some of this information helps and stay safe out there.
@@DuroMaxPower , developing a customer/installing contractor checklist is one of the best ways to stay consistent and put an end to all the “ I thought” comments. Having worked for a full service gas utility for 35 years and now consult from time to time in my retirement, I can assure you keeping all the affected people on the same page is one of the best things you can do. I’m always amazed when I am gathering information for a claims report or sitting at a deposition table, people make statements like “ we never thought to contact the utility“ or “ we don’t have a set procedure, we only have the installation manual“ . Believe me there’s a reason why Airline pilots have a checklist ✅.
@@robsapplianceplus6071 , you are correct 👍 and should be another thing added to the checklist. With all the different circuit boards on appliances today I believe these types of generators will be become obsolete one day.
Actually, when adding gas load, it’s mandatory to inform the utility. That meter is not rated for that load assuming there’s heating equipment already attached. Additionally, the utility should install the takeoff point (tee), not a contractor, at the time they replace the meter (assuming the gas service is sufficient for the added load). Other comments: never apply pipe dope (sealant) to the first two threads; never wrench a close nipple like he did which damages the threads (and yea, that nipple leaked); never turn off the gas supply before closing all inside valves (and turning off any appliances with power to them such as a furnace or boiler or power vented water heater) or else any operating appliances will suck the gas out of the pipes requiring a lot more purging once the supply is restored. Lastly, the “coupler” to the right of the tee Tony installed, is not actually a coupler, but a pipe end protector, and while Tony didn’t install it, it should not be used as a coupler.
I learned a lot from this video, but I don't believe whoever edited this video put this awful music on it and kept on turning it up and down for whatever reason unknown to me after all this is an educational video and the subject is not a Saturday night dancing.
Great tutorial for all the required steps/trades needed to install. Actually, it's the best one I have seen to this date. Kudos!
Great to hear!
@@DuroMaxPower I'm only halfway thru the video, and YES, this is a great video that covers everything and it is well done. There are obviously a few minor things here and there, but those are just nitpicks, from an OCD guy !
Great video,I'm going to purchase a stand-by gen for our home and this explained the installation perfectly. I'm not that handy , so I'll be contacting professionals to do the install.
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Make sure you send us a picture of your DuroMax setup!
Paid a plumber to do all the connections and I can tell they ripped me off. I was doubting if I could do it but I did not see any videos at the time showing the process such as this. Seems very doable as I’m very handy. Good to know.
Don’t feel bad. Doesn’t a licensed plumber have to do the job? Mind if I ask how much they charged you? I need to get this done too.
@@markgutierrez9295 ran bout 50ft mainly straight run and was given a bill of $1300. Should had just told plumber to tap to gas line and add a valve then I can handle rest but all hindsight now
@@rhpham2 got it. Thanks for the update.
Thanks! If there is every any other questions we are always happy to help
When I bought my new house, I had the builder add a natural gas line to the back porch which I use for my tri-fuel generator/BBQ. During the Texas Freeze I was running the generator, gas furnace and gas cooktop without a problem.
Just added a microair flex start to my 4ton heat pump unit! Starting amps went from 79amps with a Klein multi meter down to 24.9
That is awesome! Allows for a lot more flexibility.
very impressed with this video. whether hiring or diy, this helps home owners know exactly what is needed
Thank You!
Wow. Very complete video. Very useful. At least I know how it works (Still hiring professionals for this 🤣)
Glad you enjoyed it!
Bought this great generator a little while ago. For the record I really like it! Works great and powers the entire house during a power outage. Obviously do the math and figure out what you want to use during a power outage. However, the only issue I want to report is you might need a bigger gas meter to use a natural gas connection to fuel your generator. Also recommend adding up all of the BTU's you plan to use during the Powe outage and then make sure your gas meeting can handle the additional 225K BTU's for the generator. So, if you buy the generator and it will not start on natural gas, call your gas company and get a bigger gas meter. Once I upgraded the meter the generator started up on the first crank. Best of luck!
That is great advice! Depending on the location/municipality a larger gas meter may be needed.
The AC service tech did an excellent job explaining - very clear, detailed and organized on his thoughts. The other two guys were agonizing to try follow their sayings. Other than knowing why and how to install a hard start kit, the rest is not comprehended. The electrical section was the worst - I have no idea what he was doing because he did not explain anything!
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Thanks for the feedback!
I agree the electrical part of it was vague but there are other diy videos that explain that portion a whole lot better.
Does anyone know what brand hard start he used??
Get a soft start. Not a hard start. @@darrylmarsh8252
First time I’ve ever seen wirenuts used in a breaker box (by an electrician). Wooo
Excellent video. Very professional yet easy to understand.
Thank you.
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I have a Duromax Dual Fuel 12000 W - I'd not used it until Hurricane Beryl hit Houston. It was brand new, and followed the start up instructions. When I plugged it into my house's interlock kit, and I started turning on a few breakers, inside I could smell burning. It fried many of the electronics on the lines I turned on. After the hurricane I had everything tested. It turned out the Generator was only putting out 153 when it should have been 240, causing the surge I'd experienced, frying many of the items in my house. Please test these before hooking it up to your house. Now I have a huge paperweight because I won't cause tens of thousands in damage to my house again.
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We would like to hear more about this. Can you please reach out to us at vipsupport@duromaxpower.com
Great video. Well done. Priceless.
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Great video ! Very impressed with the detail of this step by step video. Can you please share a link to all items used in the process of making this video. Thanks
Hi There!
Please check the description for the items shown as well as guideline on other accessories.
A very good and a very informative video thank you very much for taking the time to produce it
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Easy to assemble. Started on the very first pull!!
That is always good to hear - thank you for choosing DuroMax Power Equipment!
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you too!
7:41 The quick and easy way to measure that.
1) Measure from the half way into the threads to the wall and subtract 3" that will put the ell against the wall.
2) If using a bracket measure the bracket subtract 3" from the wall and subtract the thickness of the bracket.
The second valve is redundant, remove it, it will cause a flow issue.
Thanks for the feedback!
Great video and very helpful installation of my inlet box
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I didn’t catch where the white wire was connected to on the breaker box
Awesome video learned a lot 👍thanks for video 🙏🙏
Glad to hear that
I'd prefer a soft start assist on the AC, but I guess a hard start works and is cheaper.
There is always more than one way to get to the finish line whether its hard-start or soft-start, Transfer Switch vs Interlock.
Soft start is the way to go.
dielectric couplers between brass and galvanized steel?
Isn't an inverter generator necessary to protect electronic devices? Almost every product in a home today has a computer board. How is a Westinghouse generator safe without an inverter and does Westinghouse sell a tri fuel inverter generator? Thank look forward to your response.
They are not necessary for electronic devices. While putting out a cleaner signal todays portable, open-frame Generators are safe for most electronics.
Great video
Thanks!
How come 10 or so years ago I went to to the expense of having a transfer switch next to the breaker box put in when all you have to do is have that interlock on the box? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
Interlock advantages are more cost friendly, easier to utilize and allow for the entire home to be ran.
This hurt my eyes. You are better off with a soft start kit for the air conditioner and is there an internal regulator for the natural gas in the generator ?Because I don't see one on the gas pipe itself.
DuroMax Tri Fuel Generators have a built-in regulator for Propane and NG. They do not require an external regulator for NG.
This was excellent thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Is a 250cfm meter and 125 ft of gas line from the meter at the road to the house enough volume for this generator? Mine is hard to start up but once running it’s ok. Only gas appliance is the kitchen stove.
For the XP13000HXT Generator the required fuel pressure at all load ranges are 6.0 - 9.0 inches of water column for Natural Gas. The BTU requirements are 225,000 BTU at full load.
Wish they would have shown that in the video.
When relocating breakers, it is obvious the wires are cut to the place it wire was set to. (What does 9ne do if the breaker wires are to short at the re location of the breaker?)
Hi There!
Since every jurisdiction is slightly different you would need to consult with a local electrician to confirm what would be code compliant.
@@DuroMaxPower Thank you for you reply. It does make since and since I am not an electrician I will contact a certified one in my region before playing with such dangerous thing. Thanks again
Air Conditioner Soft Starter ICM Controls ICM870-16A Soft Start Controls, Built-in Start
the best
no no hart star
Yes using soft start and hard start with air conditioners are the way to go!
@@DuroMaxPower OK, but which should be used- soft start or hard start?
You mentioned its runs in a raceway, after you drilled the hole, what did u insert for the wire to go through, and/or whats the connector on the panel where the wire first went through also, looked like a bushing?
There was a conduit raceway already in the wall.
Very informative. You didn't ground the generator. I assume that is because it it grounded to the house through the extension cord. Is that correct?
Dependes on whether the generator is a floating neutral or a bonded neutral. Most need to be bonded neutral. Should be a sticker somewhere on the generator that will tell you bonded or neutral bonding. If neutral bonded it is very easy to convert it to bonded with a $5 part and short piece of 12 ga wire from any home improvement center, or you can look online an search _bonding plug for generator_ (not likely to find one of those at home improvement store)
Correct, when using the 50 or 30 Amp Outlet on the Generator with an appropriate Generator Cord the unit does not need to be grounded as it utilizes the Home Power Panel ground.
If the generator turns off from too much load, will it automatically stop the gas flow or will that be an explosion ready to happen?
The regulator system in the generator is a "Zero Flow" regulator that will turn off the flow of gas into the engine if it is not running or shuts off unexepectedly.
As always, for safety purposes it is suggested to turn off the natural gas supply at the valve installed by the plumber when the generator is not running.
I know everything, but i never heard of a start assist. that is the 'coolest' modification.
We think your comment was even cooler!
Hard start kits help a home AC system even without a generator. We had one installed on a system after the first compressor failed within 5 years. After installing it, the next AC system lasted 15 years.
Nice setup but since that generator is bonded to the frame don't you need a ground rod at the generator when connecting to the service panel though your inlet box?
Hard to speak in generality, however most applications for inlet to panel do not require bonding as the panel is bonded.
I never saw where the plumber used the uchannel bracket. Does anyone know?
Thanks for the catch! It is shown at 26:14 as a brace and support for the gas line.
He used a section of 7/8" unistrut with a 3/4" "strut strap" to secure the pipe with.
Where is the part of the video that shows the required pressure you need at your natural gas connection, testing to verify the pressure is adequate, and then adjusting as needed? That's SUPER important in this application.
Yes those are all valuable steps you mentioned.
They didn't cover that step.....
Good video, but i installed a transfer switch next to my breaker panel . I can control which room i want powered. I am on propane , so i want to power certain rooms this will conserve on propane.
Glad you chose the option that works best for you! There is definitely more than one way to achieve power independence. Thanks for choosing DuroMax Power Equipment!
what size is the gas hose 3/4?.. I have a 30 amp set up and was going to change to 50 amp set up.. I have a soft start on my ac( awesome) but I have to go to a bigger generator and also a natural gas generator.. I'm writing this while on my 30 amp set up in Htown on day 3 without power from Hurricane Beryl!!
Thanks for the video!!
all the gas pipes are 3/4 for the hose and set up.. 1x3/4x3/4,?
all 3/4" from the utility to the included DuroMax NG hose.
where i can buy the hose and the quick conector ??? i live in houston tx thank you
Which is better for an inverter generator, hard start or soft start?
Hi There!
That will be dependent on your Central A/C. Please check the manufacturer specs to confirm the best unit for your application.
Soft start. With soft start inrush current to compressor is filtered through a potential relay before it starts compressor
Thus controlled. With hard start assist additional torque is added inline straight to compressor capacitor to start compressor. It's forced or a "hard" assist and not "soft" or controlled. I'm and HVAC specialist 20 plus years trade in.
The only flaw I saw in this video is the Cable from outside is not properly secured to the back of the Panel Box.
The Inlet box on the outside is big enough to allow a Hole in the wall to accommodate a Cable Clamp.
Thanks.
Mike M.
Hi Mike!
You are not the only one - we also caught this on the final walk through. Rest assured it was cleaned up with a clamp.
Lol i noticed right away - i even said out loud "hey man you gonna secure that thing" lololol
Hello where Can I buy the gas hose and the quick connect fittings in the Houston area ? Please advise
Hello...
These are included with the purchase of a DuroMax Tri Fuel Generator. However if needed to purchase, please call us at 844-DUROMAX and we can get you hooked up!
@@DuroMaxPowerhow long are this hose that came whit the generator???
In my area, you cannot use galvanized piping as it flakes on the inside clogging any orifice or gas control valve, you need to use black iron pipe and paint it. When you paint the gas pipe, use some painters tape or old newspaper to pritect the exterior wall from paint, not like this plumber. You also never unthread a nipple like that, you can see he deformed it. It is always reccomended to change the gas meter gaskets once they become loose, you may need 10lt, 20lt or 30lt.
Thanks for the feedback!
fairly straight forward production but fails to mention the size of the gas meter, which will be too small about 80% of the time. You'd be amazed at how much gas a gen set needs.
Thanks for watching! Due to the different applications and regions, customers are always advised to check with their local municipality for the most accurate information regarding their utility service capabilites.
Hello, thanks for great video. I see you used gas valve "matco norca 600 wog-150 swp" can you please post links to where I can purchase this but more importantly the gas pipe that connects to this valve and then in turn to the generator Natural Gas inlet.
Appreciate if you can point me to right place to buy so I can avoid buying wrong items.
Thanks
Hi There
Here is the link to the valve: www.grainger.com/category/plumbing/plumbing-valves/shut-off-valves/ball-valves/manual-ball-valves?attrs=Max.+Pressure%7C600+psi+WOG&filters=attrs.
The above valve and pipe will need to be sized to your specific meter so please measure and then the pipe will be available at most local hardware/plumbing store.
@@DuroMaxPower Thank you for quick reply - in the video there is specific call out to make sure to buy the hose that matches with valve, can you please list the hose that goes with that - as it was stated only those hose inlet nozzle can open the valve and hence a compatible hose should be brought with the item together
Any recommendations for these services in the north side of Houston meaning Kingwood/Humble area?
Hi There!
We recommend checking out our installer locator at:
www.duromaxpower.com/pages/installer-locator
Where did you find the Start Assist (Hard Start Kit)? The link on Amazon shows a different device with more than 2 cables.
Yes on Amazon, however the model will vary based on the AC unit you are using.
Does your gas disconnect need to be in the horizontal position or can it be in the vertical position?
Either direction will work.
my electrical box does not have a main disconnect, will this be an issue? can i get one added in order to install the interlock kit?
Yes, we recommend consulting with a local licensed Electrician.
No wire clamp on the panel for the 6/3 NM? 🫣
What about the thd damaging sensitive electronics, is there something i can use that wont cost an arm and a leg
With almost a million Generators sold, THD issues are nearly non-existent.
"Impressive!"
Thank you!
I have gas but not sure if it puts out enough pressure for the 15000HTX... Anyone know what pressure in inches of water is normal for a gas meter?
It will vary by location and utility however for DuroMax Generators you would want about 6-9 inches of water column.
question i have a Druomax hybrid Elite DS 1300 EH DUAL FUEL. If i convert it to natural gas would it power up my Central air and refrigerator, TV and some lights????
We do not recommend converting or altering the fuel system.
is a start assist and a soft start the same thing?
Different manufacturers call it different things but yes. We recommend the Micro Air soft start for use with our Generators.
In my area you cant use galvinized pipe for any gas work, it's black iron or others.
Oh thats rough! Whereabouts are you located?
Galvanized pipe should not be used with Nat Gas, Propane, Gasoline, Oil or Diesel Fuel. Only use carbon steel pipe.
What size gas connection was used, 1/2 or 3/4?
DuroMax Tri Fuel Generators use a 3/4" Natural Gas Hose
I need this done at my house. How much is this particular unit?
Hi There!
The DuroMax XP13000HXT Tri Fuel Generator currently goes for about $2,499 and is available from many of your favorite retailers. Check out our site for more info.
Question I just bought and received my new tri-fuel 13000 generator.
Regarding the soft start, I have a 3.5 ton American Standard ac unit. Is the soft start a universal product, or do i need to purchase a soft start that is made by American Standard?
Of course, I'm going to consult with an ac tech to install it. Just asking so i can purchase it.
Thanks
It will be made by an aftermarket company - usually Microair. It does need to be compatible with your AC unit, but not the same brand as the soft start manufacturer-wise.
@DuroMaxPower I have another question. I just purchased and received my 13000 TRI-Fuel generator from yall. I see that the 15000 tri-fuel is being advertised. My 13000 is still in the box with the band wrapped around the box. If I want to send the new one back and pay the difference for the 15000 tri-fuel is that possible???
Thanks
What does this cost with installation
It will vary by area however on average we would recommend budgeting $1500 - $2000
Will this generator ruin my electronics in my appliances?
As long as proper procedures are followed, there should be no issue.
@@DuroMaxPower can you be more descriptive on what that means?
Proper maintenance of the Generator itself, load management (not overloading, or constantly surging) and start-up/shut down procedures.
@@DuroMaxPower perfect, thank!
lol everyone read my mind about adding a soft start it’s the way to go, and you don’t need a 13,000 watt generator to turn on the condenser.
Very true - Soft Start is the way to go!
Whats the diameter of the pieces of pipe did you used ?
Looks like it is 3/4"
It was 3/4" pipe.
Thank you sir
Great video, however to be safe you must hire a professional plumber and electrician. Don't mess with gas is not worth getting hurt. Sometimes in life you got to pay for the safety of you and your family Cheeers
Great point!
Whats the cost per day to run that generator let say the 13000?
Will vary by fuel, with Beryl we have heard on Natural Gas in Houston it averaged about $20 a day.
Depends on load and fuel used. Beryl caused 5days without lights. Wen11000/8300 gas generator. I made sure to tach my governor to 3600rpms and multimeter 60hz. My house with 2ceiling fans, 2 fridgerators, deep freezer,drink cooler, led lights, tvs & simple electronics 500watts running. 3.5ton a/c running is 3000watts. Without soft start 39amps with soft start 15amps 240v. A/c alone the generator gets 3½hr a gallon because I turned everything else off during the night. Used flash lights to conserve gas. The house with everything listed above gets 2hrs a gallon at 4000watts. It came out to roughly $32 in gas($2.99 regular) from 6:00am to 6:00am
I have room for microwave, washer, dryer, dishwasher, air fryer. But I govern use 1 at a time. I dont want to be burning gas needlessly. Plus finding a station with gas is difficult in the beginning. I would not run the generator all day but the weaklings want it 24/7. My perspective is going to hotel/motel with power is no less than $89 a night plus every person is extra charge.
Also I dont want to run at max load because it will heat the windings to maximum tempertaure. I dont want to lose the only house generator to overloading. So I keep it to 65% for that reason. We are not in luxury times it is "emergency" so will operate on a different routine than normal. Bigger generator mean bigger fuel use & cost. Savings depleting cost. They have tv wifi a/c fridgerator and lights. Which is luxury in difficult times
Most utility company’s don’t allow contractors tamper with their gas meters
That is correct, they do not allow you to tamper with them. However, nearly all gas companies allow for additions to be added on to the home owners side.
@@DuroMaxPower Adding a gas line to the customers side is not the problem. Dropping the gas meter is not allowed in most cases.
"allow" Lololol so what
@@jamesdavison6394 In my area, the utility company installs block off plates inside the unions They are the only ones who can initially turn the gas on. After they remove the sealing caps and turn the gas on, they Install lead seals on the meter fittings, so the can tell if anyone has messed with it. It’s a pretty hefty fine out here. Guess it’s not a problem where you are.
@@rodgraff1782 yeah okay i hear that, i was being short. I'm a sparky, and i was dealing w/ PG&E out in bay area CA for 20 yrs. ... if i had to wait on them to change-over power most of the time i would have still not completed a portion of those jobs - i left there 3 yrs ago lol. I Fully understand Not messing w/ the Line side however. Thanks for your reply - Take Care out there
First thing to turn off by utility company is electricity and second is the gas when a disaster happens LOL
U do know about the on/off valve at the place matural gas pipe come out the ground. Also there is a main breaker to turn off power feed from power line😊
NG managed to stay on for all affected by Beryl. We do agree power is first.
Great video! However, the install of the hard start kit was a bit disorienting because he spent a greal deal of time showing you how to make sure your unit is deenergized, then suddenly cuts to a scene where he shows the AC relay turning on and registering 34 amps. I was like, "Woah! he just unplugged it!"
Thank you for the feedback!
Работа спецов 👍😎🇷🇺, ребята подскажите ,что такое pipe dope? Спасибо 😉
Привет рад ответить на это! Пайпинг для труб представляет собой герметик для резьбы, обычно известный как «майка для труб». Он используется на трубах, чтобы обеспечить уплотнение между резьбовыми соединениями. 🙂
@@DuroMaxPower спасибо, очень приятно получить от вас ответ. У нас в стране герметик данного вида не встречается. Пришлось почитать на английском 😂👍
Ok good but how much is going to cost me to hire those guys? 1rs things 1rs how much?
The installation cost will vary by location but we can guarantee it will be cheaper than a Home Standby installation.
@@DuroMaxPowerI live in Houston, i need this jod in my house who can help me ?? i need the hose to , thank you
Have a solar powered backup to the gas powered backup 😉
All well prepared plans should account for all 3: solar power, fuel power and battery power.
One caution 🤔🤔 These hi-watt open frame generators are *not* *_inverter_* generators. The voltage and frequency (60hz) vary considerably. While they may be fine for most electric motors, lights, hotplates, electric stoves, hair dryers, elec space heaters and some coffee makers and the like, it is *NOT ADVISABLE* to use this power for sensitive electronics. TV's , computers, chargers, maybe even HVAC or anything that needs a constant clean wave of 60 hertz pure sine wave. The 60 cycles per second on this type generator are like a runaway train. Electronics simply can not handle wide variations either side of pure sine wave power. One possible fix is a good high quality UPS (Universal Power Supply) for electroics. It may try to stabilze dirty power to cleaner sine wave. APC and ISO makes some good backup power supplies.
Hi There!
While you are correct that the unit shown is not an inverter Generator, they are safe for home use as we have spent countless resources testing and the customer base to speak for it. We also agree that a full portable home power backup setup should include surge protectors and/or VFI UPS's which are also commonly used with utility power. While no power into a home is perfect, with the right precautions nearly all accidents can be avoided.
I have a uninterruptible power supply (UPS) on my electronics (computer equipment, routers, TV, cable box). My UPS's seem to beep & click when connected to the generator. I have a stupid power strip plugged into the battery backup side with items plugged into the strip. All I have to do is move one plug to the surge protector side. And then turn off UPS. Surge protector should still work.
@@rwstarke The reason your UPS is clicking is because it is not seeing a clean 60 cycle (stabilized) power load coming in. Your problem is a surge (voltage- either to high or to low) so much so it's seeing dirty power, varrying power (voltage) but moreso it's not seeing 60 cycle pure sine wave. The power strip will not fix that. It's risky w/ just power strip - all that does is (don't count on it) is protect spike voltage surge, *not* 60 cycle sine wave. In a way, it's good that the UPS is trying to do it's job...just to much flucuation. Best fix is an inverter generator or a good size power battery bank (some mistakenly call solar generators) They don't _generate_ anything.
@@avflyguy Thanks. I know why the APC UPS clicks. I just use the Surge Protection (with EMI/RFI Filter) side of the UPS and not the Back-up Battery side. I do have a couple 300W Portable Power Stations and solar panel briefcase for just in case emergency power.
@@rwstarke Ah- You should be good. I've been using the APC Back-UPS Pro 1000 VA and have very pleased with it. Keeps desktop, modem, switch, wi-fi running a long time, with 26 inch monitor off. During the Texas freeze out a couple of years ago, were able to keep internet going and used laptops/phones and it went a good 15-20 hours (very low load on) I still would not trust any electronics on a non inverter generator. I got a Champion 2500i inverter dual fuel, so now it'll be safe on all electronics and will keep the furnace running (nat gas).
I thought galvanized pipe was bad to use.
Code will call for different type by jurisdiction. Always consult a local, licensed plumber to confirm what can be used.
Sooo I’m about to be charged $950 for this 😑
What does that all include and whereabouts are you located?
so we have to hire 3 technicians and buy the generator.
Depending on the setup it could be 2 or 3 licensed technicians.
...Or you can follow the video and do it yourself.
I thought he said It has to be done by a licensed tech or its illigal
How much does a job like this cost approximately?
your video is tight like that fade
Only the crispiest
If the gas company can't push the gas it's no good
That generator can run on petrol too
We agree, thats why 3 fuel choices are better than 1.
Rubber hose to a generator for Natural Gas or Propane is absolutely unacceptable.
What are you basing this off of?
@@DuroMaxPower Since you manufacture generators I shouldn't need to explain this to you.
The cost is higher but using a soft starter is better than a hard start and will extend the life of the outside unit. Also turn off some of the high amperage breakers and turn them on gradually after the generator power is running into the panel.
Hi @rwstarke
That is always good advice!
Lol was about to leave this comment. The in rush current is instantaneous and that meter he used is not able to detect the momentary current that the AC condenser actually pulls. I would guess it still has an instantaneous in rush of at least 40 amps, but it could be up to twice that. Micro Air East Start is the way to go and I have installed several, the other big bonus with soft start is that it will actually give your condenser a longer life as well 👍
yeah i dont understand why a start-assist is not a common feature of All ac units - would prevent the brown-out & system stress that happens several times a day in the hot months
@@rrrr6863 yup. that locked rotor amperage is probs closer top 70A
@@jamesdavison6394 Probably because the manufacturers don't want people's AC to last longer than they already do. Hell, a good system should last you between 10 and 15 years. That's not a lot of turnover 🤷♂️
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome information.
Glad it was helpful! if you have any other questions feel free to give us a call us at 1-844-DUROMAX.
More then just a few things missing. A 5 ton unit does NOT draw 34 amps at start up. My 3 ton draws 102 amps LRA (Locked Rotor Amps) so I paused the video when you put the cover back on the A/C unit and can see LRA is 131 amps. Yes this is momentary, but the generator is going to see it. Your reduced power supply running on natural gas may not run it.
My 5 ton draws 48-52 with micro-air soft start
That is what the soft start decreases the LRA down to and is shown.
@@DuroMaxPowerWell he said it's a hard start not soft start
Because you need a soft start on your AC.
Great video! I wouldn’t put the generator on the curb for easy pickup. It might walk away in the middle of the night. REM to derate wattage output when running on nat gas or propane.
Great point!
It was just for this video. It was going to the backyard.
Wow, great video especially detailed on how to do the gas hook up. I did this install 3 years ago and wished this video existed. I know you're supposed to say call a professional, but it's totally a DIY job if you have the right tools and knowledge. This video did a great job explaining it. I have a xp12000eh modified for natural gas, a interlock 50amp inlet, quick disconnect on my gas meter, and a hard start kit on my hvac installed all by myself. I prefer this model generator as it's made for Tri-fuel out of the box vs modifying a Duel fuel to work as a Tri-fuel by installing a regulator.
What tonnage hvac system do you have?
I have the 13000eh and was looking into modifying it to Nat gas. Found a few websites...but...how did you do it? parts?
@@chuckv978 I did a video on this a few years back, keep in mind the 12000 is different than 13000, but the concept is the same. th-cam.com/video/CNZIy6Mvv14/w-d-xo.html
That is awesome @mr-chris. Do you happen to have videos or photos you could share and tag us in?
@@DuroMaxPower I sure do have Videos th-cam.com/video/aGno6yIY5LI/w-d-xo.html & th-cam.com/video/CNZIy6Mvv14/w-d-xo.html . I made sure to tag you in these videos
I'm an HVAC business owner in houston. You need a soft start kit for your AC. Hard start kit helps but Soft start will dramatically decrease your starting amperage.
Thank you for the feedback!
What is the difference between Hard start and Soft start ,which it save energy To reduce the cost of electricity bill during a summer month
@@phucung2678 hard start kit is like a jump for you compressor. it helps you compressor turn on. I usually install this on weak compressors that are having trouble starting up. Soft start kit slowly starts you compressor giving you reduced starting amps. Therefore you can connect a Generator when needed and run your AC.
Love the video but not the irritating looping background sound the editors call "music" but I call NOISE.
Thank you for watching!
I am at fort bend county your company can do the installation
Check out
www.duromaxpower.com/pages/installer-locator
to find an installer near you.
@@DuroMaxPower thank you 👍
These professionals make the job of installing the gas line hook up and the electrical 50 amp breaker hook up look very easy but, in actuality, it's not as easy as it looks. You have to know how to do it correctly and that takes some knowledge know how to do it properly. If you think you can do the job, give it a try but, remember to have it inspected before you actually try running it. If you run into trouble, you can always call in the professional.
Hi Carl!
They definitely make it look easy with their experience. We agree that an inspection is a great way to have peace of mind.
I agree. It is irresponsible for a amateur to do this
Regardless of the interlock, you should always turn off your main breaker before ever hooking up your generator, its just best practice!
Agreed, but that is what the interlock reinforces.
Thats great video. Its explain everything i need to know
Thank you! I'm glad the video explained everything you needed to know. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask! Call us at 1-844-DUROMAX.
Please know Inverter generators are for your home use and power generators are for your power tools use!! Modern Appliances have chips that require inverters to handle fluctuation of loads, otherwise you could burn your appliances chips.
That is not the case anymore and we have hundreds of thousands of Generators in service to prove otherwise.
A very good general overview of the process to convert a home for using a tri-fuel generator. Of course, every state, local and city building codes will be different. Considering this work requires multiple utilities (gas, electrical, etc...) hire a professional contractor to complete this work. This video used 3 different men all from different contractors for a reason. This is not a do-it-yourself job for most people. Be safe, be smart and do it the right way.
Hi Smith!
That is great advice - thanks for the input!
I agree! I work for a gas utility and know just enough to be truly dangerous - lol. I would never attempt this as a DIY project. Think of the contractor cost as insurance to help you safely manage a power outage.
What natural gas hose is that and where can we buy it
It is available from us at DuroMax by calling 844-DUROMAX.
I live in Houston with a detached garage and natural gas. My gas meter is located on the front of the house to the left side and my electric meter located on the rear right outside side of the garage. My breaker box is located on the adjacent side of the electric meter inside the garage.
My question is do I have to run a solid gas line underground, towards the rear of my house, where I need to locate my generator or can I use a quick connect and connect only when needed?
A licensed Electrician should be able to run an inlet toward the side of the house where the fuel supply would be to save the hassle.
@@DuroMaxPoweryep my electrician told me that today
What happens if I tap off of the other line and bypass the meter? The meter is such a nuisance 😅
Probably will get a visit from the local authorities soon.
@DuroMax Power Equipment Great video - thank you! Question: at 11:34, the plumber describes a quick connect safety valve - it prevents gas flow even if the ball valve is open unless the hose is attached. I've searched online for that sort of connector but am coming up short. Can you post names of manufacturers and any model numbers? Thanks!
Hi There!
We recommend checking Century Fuel Products or MB Sturgis such as this one:
amazon.com/M-B-Sturgis-Inc-Generator-Disconnect/dp/B01N6NLDB6?th=1
Please ensure appropriate sizing based off your application.
Thanks!
All the needed quick connect couplings are included with the generator. The female couplings have a poppet that is closed until the mating connection is made.
Why no sediment trap at the quick connect? Seems like it would be a good idea since the generator will potentially run for days and you won't always be out there to look after it.
We always recommend it but unfortunately some places dont make it a requirement
@@DuroMaxPower Well, that's good enough for me. I am definitely going to put one on my upcoming install. I haven't seen any sediment traps at the quick connect at the meter on any of these TH-camr's videos. It's just an extra $10 in parts for peace of mind.
Great video. Tri-Fuel generators are the only way to go.
Yes they are!
Why no tri-fuel inverter generator yet?
What does all this cost with installation?
It will vary by area however on average we would recommend budgeting $1500 - $2000
It's a great informative video! I just bought a Duromax XP9500iH. My electrical panel has bonded neutral and ground wires. Should I make any electrical alterations to install a 50-amp outlet?
Please consult with a qualified electrician. We do not advise making any alterations to your generator.
Not bad but let’s address a few things that may not have been mentioned or overlooked #1 now that a load is being added to the system let’s calculate the total BTUs, including the new generator and determine if the gas meter can handle the total load (this may include a call to the local gas utility to let them know your intentions on adding a load; especially if their computer system is set up for spike load readings). #2 those things on top of the meter are not called unions they are referred to as meter nuts. #3 let’s try to use an adjustable wrench on those service valves, pipe wrenches tend to marr the brass lugs on service valves. # 4 let’s try to incorporate a sediment trap at the generator and hose connection. And #5 it’s recommended that you take gas pressure readings (lock up & working) , this would involve all the gas appliances in the house plus your newly installed generator (running all at once for working pressure).Hope some of this information helps and stay safe out there.
Hi Bob!
Thanks for the input and we encourage homeowners to consult with their gas utility company to ensure adequate natural gas delivery.
@@DuroMaxPower , developing a customer/installing contractor checklist is one of the best ways to stay consistent and put an end to all the “ I thought” comments. Having worked for a full service gas utility for 35 years and now consult from time to time in my retirement, I can assure you keeping all the affected people on the same page is one of the best things you can do. I’m always amazed when I am gathering information for a claims report or sitting at a deposition table, people make statements like “ we never thought to contact the utility“ or “ we don’t have a set procedure, we only have the installation manual“ . Believe me there’s a reason why Airline pilots have a checklist ✅.
#6 That is not an inverter generator and therefore not the correct type generator if you plan on using any electronics.
@@robsapplianceplus6071 , you are correct 👍 and should be another thing added to the checklist. With all the different circuit boards on appliances today I believe these types of generators will be become obsolete one day.
Actually, when adding gas load, it’s mandatory to inform the utility. That meter is not rated for that load assuming there’s heating equipment already attached. Additionally, the utility should install the takeoff point (tee), not a contractor, at the time they replace the meter (assuming the gas service is sufficient for the added load).
Other comments: never apply pipe dope (sealant) to the first two threads; never wrench a close nipple like he did which damages the threads (and yea, that nipple leaked); never turn off the gas supply before closing all inside valves (and turning off any appliances with power to them such as a furnace or boiler or power vented water heater) or else any operating appliances will suck the gas out of the pipes requiring a lot more purging once the supply is restored.
Lastly, the “coupler” to the right of the tee Tony installed, is not actually a coupler, but a pipe end protector, and while Tony didn’t install it, it should not be used as a coupler.
I learned a lot from this video, but I don't believe whoever edited this video put this awful music on it and kept on turning it up and down for whatever reason unknown to me after all this is an educational video and the subject is not a Saturday night dancing.
Thank you