I bought basically the first run of these off the line back in early 2020. Mark is a nice dude and very helpful. I live about 40 miles away from his machine shop, and he let me come by and he showed me the entire manufacturing process from start to finish. He also was very helpful when I had an issue with hydraulic fluid leak, which apparently was an issue in the very early designs. I have never had any issues with quick responses. And he is basically a one man shop who does everything himself, so that’s pretty impressive. He used to do work on custom Porsche race cars I believe, so his attention to detail is quite high.
Hi, Will. In response to your concern about the linear pots: I have a set of the previous pedals, the PRX, that I bought used. I'm not sure what stresses the previous owner put them under, but one of my pots actually were ruptured, and it caused a localized short. However, replacing the potentiometer was as easy as putting a sticker on a lego set, as the potentiometer is literally just an adhesive strip with wire attached. You can buy them yourself for less than 10 bucks. Since replacing the potentiometer, I've put in hundreds of hours of track time over the past 2 years, with no wear on the pots at all. I imagine the rolling of the ball bearing will do nothing but improve the reliability of the sensor that I already am super happy with.
Excellent review! I have a set myself and love them. Reliability has been flawless. I found that a bit of Vaseline really helped smooth out the clutch pedal. The machining is top notch and they're obviously super expensive but I feel like you really do get what you pay for given all the custom work and thought put into the design. Being able to invert the brake is awesome, and is in fact what I ended up doing to great effect. My brake pedal used to be a bit notchy when slowly lifting, but after 14 months of ownership and admittedly somewhat inconsistent use, it feels really smooth now when lifting off. I also put some M6 18mm fender washers inside of the plastic spring cap on the clutch pedal to add a little extra preload to the spring (I'm already using the heaviest spring), and it made the clutch action feel a little more realistic compared to the few track cars I've driven IRL, especially with the inverted clutch pedal. I did the same with the throttle pedal, though I'm using a lighter spring in the first place, I just don't want to buy the spring kit haha. These always seemed to not get enough attention online (not even Barry has a review) so it's nice to see a proper review from a bigger channel. I think they're quite underrated, I see about a hundred sets of Ultimates for each set of JBVs online haha. (Not to say the Ultimates are bad, ofc, but just look at the JBVs!)
I really love these reviews, even they are a bit on the long side, I do appreciate the deep going review and details of it. There are so many factors to conside when buying new pedals it's hard for consumers to know what fits then needs without testing them. Keep up to nice work Will! Any chance you wil be reviewing Simtrecs pedals in the future?
I had these for 6 months and sold them off after numerous issues. Bunch of play in the pedals, and the throttle sensor failed on me in 4 months. Bunch of other small stuff as well. He just announced he sold off the company today. Went with simtrecs and they’re loads better.
I'm looking at the Realgear GTPRO3 pedals these HPP just look cheap almost like the looks was the main goal. I heard good things from Simtrecs they are much cheaper than the GTPRO3 (not quality but price) it's just so hard to make a choice when your in the 2000$-3000$ range for pedals. Much more research goes into it. I'm on Heusinkveld Ultimates right now but just getting bored with them. How have your Simtrecs been for this last year or so?
So happy you got these and are able to show them. I have been looking at them for the past week as I am looking for a new set. I figured hey American made but when I looked at their video I was a bit sceptical about them. At least seeing them in action is giving me more info to play with. Also hope the house is doing better.
Hi Will, great review. Just saw then you're driving through the pit in iRacing that there's something of the picture missing between the centre and the side screens cause of the Bezel kit. Just for your information, if you haven't discovered it yet, you can now set the bezels to a minus value, so it will add the picture on both screens, and thereby giving you the missing picture parts back with the bezel kit. Just like ACC. I just found the new feature by accident a few days ago.
Yep. It’s never going to be perfect though. We have it optimised as best it can be with this setup. We were already using a negative offset which we achieved by fudging the dimensions to effectively give us a negative bezel previously.
I was so excited to see that you posted a new video because I expected the announced Varjo Aero review. So when could we expect your Varjo review? Really looking forward to it. Thanks!
That clutch pedal design is awesome . I had a 66 mustang that had a very heavy clutch that was two stage. Once you got the car rolling there was no need to push the clutch in all the way . Once hit that crust stop you can change gears . So if you could set the clutch peramaters in the software to do that then that design would really be awesome . I'm just getting into all this so I'm not sure what is really all out there far as software and hardware .
I don’t think it makes a lot of sense to do that because it’s so subjective and muscle memory plays such a vital role. I’m always going to be faster on pedals that suit my style.
I got a set of these from Mark too, Great pedals indeed! Ive ran them now for over a year. I heard that another company has purchased hpp. I wonder if that will play a roll in the quality, success of these pedals.
Ive had the previous gen and the new ones - been running them for almost 2 years and they're great. The ONLY issue is that I have a motion sim and the EMI would affect the throttle, but a large ferrite magnet helped get rid of that. But other than that, the best feeling pedals ive ever tried.
Yeah we mentioned the sheer level of engineering when it comes to EMI protection when we did our setup video. It seems excessive but that’s what you’re paying for.
@@boostedmedia i agree on that. One ferrite fixed it for me with these pedals and ive went through at least 5 different pedal sets now. These are my favorites. Great vid 👍
Good review, loads of time and effort clearly pit in as always. Have you had the simagic pedals yet as they seem similar. Also load cell Vs hydraulic is not clear to me. Especially if the hydraulic is not hooked to a caliper with pistons clamping a material like ceramic or steel.
Great review and pretty much your findings is what I experienced. Without the software control I ditched them and found the ultimates to be much better being able to dial them in perfectly to suit. Since then I’m now on Simtrecs and it beats them all !
@@jasgill7121 absolutely love them. They feel very close to a full hydraulic pedal. But without the hydraulics to worry about. The clutch pedal feels very realistic and has a sharp bite point. The throttle is the smoothest throttle I’ve tested to date.
@@barrymanon9459 I was thinking of either getting the Racewerk S1 Pro hydraulic pedals or the Pro Sim Evo hydraulic pedals (best of the best) and adding the simtrecs clutch to them since they're only a throttle and brake since theyre made for high performance F1 driving. What do you think?
@@jasgill7121 the simtrecs clutch goes into the simtrecs pcb board... so not sure how you would run it without the throttle as that has the pcb board inside it. I also have Racewerk pedals and the throttle to me is a huge huge let down. The brake does feel nice but it’s no where near as adjustable as the simtrecs to dial in to suit you perfectly. So I found my self being able to get the correct feeling with the simtrec pedals as it has 20 diff stiffness bumper settings. Plus it has their adjustable hydraulic shock damper which actually works unlike the HE ultimate, therefore it gives the pedal that fluid feeling .
I realize this thread is a few years old and HPP has been purchased but i am wondering if the spring kit is available somewhere? I only have 2 and one is 2 stiff (the one with red stripe) and the other is too soft
Not at this stage. We spoke to VRS about it quite some time ago but they’ve gone quiet. Will follow it up once we’ve gotten through our current backlog. Haven’t looked into simtrecs
These are really nice, i always appreciate quality manufacturing crazy to think just one pedal is almost worth more than the entire hydraulic pedal box i put in my irl race car 😂
@@John-ok8ts oh for real? Nice! I'll definitely cop a pair this year. I've been looking for a solid hydraulic set along with their h pattern shifter with the hydraulic system. Also do they have a clutch?
@@jasgill7121 I don't think so. At least not that I could see on their website. They are about 1.8K so pretty pricey but not insane compared to the rig they also sell (which come with these pedals). btw you might not like them. They are designed to mimic as close to formula cars etc as possible so they are going to be pretty stiff.
@@John-ok8ts I want hydraulic pedals and I want the best paired with the Simucube Ultimate. If there's no clutch could you recommend a nice clutch to go with them? I was looking at the Racewerk S1 Pro pedals. You think that clutch will work with them?
You want to use the stiffest brake pedal possible. Doing so helps develop muscle memory, with muscle memory it’s easy to gauge the amount of pressure you need to brake accurately and consistently. Although, I do prefer a very little pedal movement, it’s weird feeling like I’m pressing against a wall.
Most people who have these speak highly of them. I am hoping that him selling off the production rights will not hurt the quality. You guys should totally get a set from Motion Simulation that was completely fabricated by them, and compare the sets.
These look like they are pretty fantastic. But that being said, those Asetek Invicta pedals sound better to me every day. Pricing is pretty great for how good the break is as well when compared to Heusinkveld Ultimate pedals. You mentioned several times that you have personly been using them for a good amount of time now. Can you give us a hint as to when we may hear more about and/or when a launch date will be announced?
Does the fact that you have a hydraulic link and pressure gauge instead of a metal rod and load cell really make a big difference in term of feel? It looks like most of the pedal response is coming from the elastomer stack in both cases.
Hey Will, i'm in the market for a pedal set however i went through your videos and I can't pinpoint the info I need to compare all of these that you reviewed in the last year. Which one would you say is the best in terms of range of motion? I also am looking for something that has good size pads (for heel to toe). Any options you suggest?
Interesting option over my HS and Mecas. What I don‘t understand why the pedal arms are always so long. I have average foot size of 8.5-9 and need to build a raiser for the feet in order to have the right touchpoint to the pedals.
Not sure if you tested the Realgear Gtpro3 pedals but looking at the HPP and Realgear what would you go with? Keep in mind the HPP are onky 100$ less for me than the almost real car pedal box from Realgear. For me the Realgear just looks so much better these HPP look like a toy.
I’ve had both and the Ultimates are def better in respect to the software side of things. You can fine tune the ultimates to suit you and the car far more easily. But I now have simtrecs and it beats them all in performance and software
They look like good pedals, but hydraulics mean it has hydraulic fluid in it. That is fine until it leaks and sprays on the rug or your pc... But if you can afford that, then they are great, but they should actually hold oil, there are some that hold a decent amount in small containers. But for the "Formula" style a clutch pedal is fairly useless. And I love clutches, but I prefer a GT style.
Be careful buying HPP, I have had two people who bought this pedal and have absolutely horrific after sales service, HPP were asking marked up money for people to pay for parts even though they are under warranty, and the owner also doesn't respond to phone call and only email back months later, Watch out.
@@John-ok8ts We warranties any parts you buy second hand. I had to buy a new cylinder after I bought my PRX used, but he serviced my second cylinder for free after it started to leak by.
I bought basically the first run of these off the line back in early 2020. Mark is a nice dude and very helpful. I live about 40 miles away from his machine shop, and he let me come by and he showed me the entire manufacturing process from start to finish. He also was very helpful when I had an issue with hydraulic fluid leak, which apparently was an issue in the very early designs.
I have never had any issues with quick responses. And he is basically a one man shop who does everything himself, so that’s pretty impressive.
He used to do work on custom Porsche race cars I believe, so his attention to detail is quite high.
Josh do you know is he will
Service older pedals he sold the company and my fried gave me a set and the throttle
Is going out .?
Hi, Will. In response to your concern about the linear pots:
I have a set of the previous pedals, the PRX, that I bought used. I'm not sure what stresses the previous owner put them under, but one of my pots actually were ruptured, and it caused a localized short. However, replacing the potentiometer was as easy as putting a sticker on a lego set, as the potentiometer is literally just an adhesive strip with wire attached. You can buy them yourself for less than 10 bucks. Since replacing the potentiometer, I've put in hundreds of hours of track time over the past 2 years, with no wear on the pots at all. I imagine the rolling of the ball bearing will do nothing but improve the reliability of the sensor that I already am super happy with.
Hi Jonathan, can you yell me what type of potentiometer did you buy? Be couse i had same issue with them and I wanna take 4-5 for reserve
Thanks.
@@ydoicappa They're Spectra Symbol SoftPots
Excellent review! I have a set myself and love them. Reliability has been flawless. I found that a bit of Vaseline really helped smooth out the clutch pedal. The machining is top notch and they're obviously super expensive but I feel like you really do get what you pay for given all the custom work and thought put into the design. Being able to invert the brake is awesome, and is in fact what I ended up doing to great effect. My brake pedal used to be a bit notchy when slowly lifting, but after 14 months of ownership and admittedly somewhat inconsistent use, it feels really smooth now when lifting off.
I also put some M6 18mm fender washers inside of the plastic spring cap on the clutch pedal to add a little extra preload to the spring (I'm already using the heaviest spring), and it made the clutch action feel a little more realistic compared to the few track cars I've driven IRL, especially with the inverted clutch pedal. I did the same with the throttle pedal, though I'm using a lighter spring in the first place, I just don't want to buy the spring kit haha.
These always seemed to not get enough attention online (not even Barry has a review) so it's nice to see a proper review from a bigger channel. I think they're quite underrated, I see about a hundred sets of Ultimates for each set of JBVs online haha. (Not to say the Ultimates are bad, ofc, but just look at the JBVs!)
I really love these reviews, even they are a bit on the long side, I do appreciate the deep going review and details of it.
There are so many factors to conside when buying new pedals it's hard for consumers to know what fits then needs without testing them.
Keep up to nice work Will! Any chance you wil be reviewing Simtrecs pedals in the future?
I had these for 6 months and sold them off after numerous issues. Bunch of play in the pedals, and the throttle sensor failed on me in 4 months. Bunch of other small stuff as well. He just announced he sold off the company today. Went with simtrecs and they’re loads better.
I'm looking at the Realgear GTPRO3 pedals these HPP just look cheap almost like the looks was the main goal. I heard good things from Simtrecs they are much cheaper than the GTPRO3 (not quality but price) it's just so hard to make a choice when your in the 2000$-3000$ range for pedals. Much more research goes into it. I'm on Heusinkveld Ultimates right now but just getting bored with them. How have your Simtrecs been for this last year or so?
Thank you.
So happy you got these and are able to show them. I have been looking at them for the past week as I am looking for a new set. I figured hey American made but when I looked at their video I was a bit sceptical about them. At least seeing them in action is giving me more info to play with. Also hope the house is doing better.
Hi Will, great review. Just saw then you're driving through the pit in iRacing that there's something of the picture missing between the centre and the side screens cause of the Bezel kit. Just for your information, if you haven't discovered it yet, you can now set the bezels to a minus value, so it will add the picture on both screens, and thereby giving you the missing picture parts back with the bezel kit. Just like ACC. I just found the new feature by accident a few days ago.
Yep. It’s never going to be perfect though. We have it optimised as best it can be with this setup. We were already using a negative offset which we achieved by fudging the dimensions to effectively give us a negative bezel previously.
I’ve been waiting for a review on these for a long time. Thank you Will. Tough choice between these or the ultimates.
Great review! I’m so torn between these, simcoaches, and the he ultimates now.
Great review, going up in subscribers, hard work behind, congratulations
Great review. I have really liked mine. Tweaking them with DIVIEW was crucial in getting them working correctly.
I was so excited to see that you posted a new video because I expected the announced Varjo Aero review. So when could we expect your Varjo review? Really looking forward to it. Thanks!
Should be ready next week.
@@boostedmediathis is going to be a long week then :)
YYYEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOMEONE to review the HPP JBVS!!!!!!
Love HPP pedals
That clutch pedal design is awesome . I had a 66 mustang that had a very heavy clutch that was two stage. Once you got the car rolling there was no need to push the clutch in all the way . Once hit that crust stop you can change gears . So if you could set the clutch peramaters in the software to do that then that design would really be awesome . I'm just getting into all this so I'm not sure what is really all out there far as software and hardware .
Great review video. Still waiting on a leader board for pedals.
I don’t think it makes a lot of sense to do that because it’s so subjective and muscle memory plays such a vital role. I’m always going to be faster on pedals that suit my style.
Mannnn these look Classy .... Way to go Cali boys ;)
Just beautiful
I got a set of these from Mark too, Great pedals indeed! Ive ran them now for over a year. I heard that another company has purchased hpp. I wonder if that will play a roll in the quality, success of these pedals.
Ive had the previous gen and the new ones - been running them for almost 2 years and they're great. The ONLY issue is that I have a motion sim and the EMI would affect the throttle, but a large ferrite magnet helped get rid of that. But other than that, the best feeling pedals ive ever tried.
Good to know. We didn’t see any problems with EMI with our Dbox, then again we’ve never had any EMI issues with anything we’ve reviewed.
@@boostedmedia d-box isnt known for emitting much EMI. I have the PT-actuators kit which does have EMI leakage
Yeah we mentioned the sheer level of engineering when it comes to EMI protection when we did our setup video. It seems excessive but that’s what you’re paying for.
@@boostedmedia i agree on that. One ferrite fixed it for me with these pedals and ive went through at least 5 different pedal sets now. These are my favorites. Great vid 👍
I love my hpp prx se's!
Good review, loads of time and effort clearly pit in as always. Have you had the simagic pedals yet as they seem similar. Also load cell Vs hydraulic is not clear to me. Especially if the hydraulic is not hooked to a caliper with pistons clamping a material like ceramic or steel.
Great review and pretty much your findings is what I experienced. Without the software control I ditched them and found the ultimates to be much better being able to dial them in perfectly to suit.
Since then I’m now on Simtrecs and it beats them all !
What do you think about the simtrecs?
@@jasgill7121 absolutely love them. They feel very close to a full hydraulic pedal. But without the hydraulics to worry about.
The clutch pedal feels very realistic and has a sharp bite point. The throttle is the smoothest throttle I’ve tested to date.
@@barrymanon9459 I was thinking of either getting the Racewerk S1 Pro hydraulic pedals or the Pro Sim Evo hydraulic pedals (best of the best) and adding the simtrecs clutch to them since they're only a throttle and brake since theyre made for high performance F1 driving. What do you think?
@@jasgill7121 the simtrecs clutch goes into the simtrecs pcb board... so not sure how you would run it without the throttle as that has the pcb board inside it.
I also have Racewerk pedals and the throttle to me is a huge huge let down.
The brake does feel nice but it’s no where near as adjustable as the simtrecs to dial in to suit you perfectly. So I found my self being able to get the correct feeling with the simtrec pedals as it has 20 diff stiffness bumper settings. Plus it has their adjustable hydraulic shock damper which actually works unlike the HE ultimate, therefore it gives the pedal that fluid feeling .
@@barrymanon9459 damn :/ well I appreciate all the information for sure! What's your favorite hydraulic pedals in your opinion?
I realize this thread is a few years old and HPP has been purchased but i am wondering if the spring kit is available somewhere? I only have 2 and one is 2 stiff (the one with red stripe) and the other is too soft
Great video as always! - Do you have any plans on reviewing the VRS pedals, or the simtrecs pro pedals?
Not at this stage. We spoke to VRS about it quite some time ago but they’ve gone quiet. Will follow it up once we’ve gotten through our current backlog.
Haven’t looked into simtrecs
These are really nice, i always appreciate quality manufacturing crazy to think just one pedal is almost worth more than the entire hydraulic pedal box i put in my irl race car 😂
The community needs you to try the pro-sim evo pedals, meant to be the best of the best!
What about them makes them the best (curious)
@@jasgill7121 Lando Norris uses them lol
@@John-ok8ts oh for real? Nice! I'll definitely cop a pair this year. I've been looking for a solid hydraulic set along with their h pattern shifter with the hydraulic system. Also do they have a clutch?
@@jasgill7121 I don't think so. At least not that I could see on their website. They are about 1.8K so pretty pricey but not insane compared to the rig they also sell (which come with these pedals). btw you might not like them. They are designed to mimic as close to formula cars etc as possible so they are going to be pretty stiff.
@@John-ok8ts I want hydraulic pedals and I want the best paired with the Simucube Ultimate. If there's no clutch could you recommend a nice clutch to go with them? I was looking at the Racewerk S1 Pro pedals. You think that clutch will work with them?
You want to use the stiffest brake pedal possible. Doing so helps develop muscle memory, with muscle memory it’s easy to gauge the amount of pressure you need to brake accurately and consistently. Although, I do prefer a very little pedal movement, it’s weird feeling like I’m pressing against a wall.
Beautiful 👌
Most people who have these speak highly of them. I am hoping that him selling off the production rights will not hurt the quality. You guys should totally get a set from Motion Simulation that was completely fabricated by them, and compare the sets.
How would you compare these Will to the asetek simsports invicta pedals
Wish we'd finally get a complete hydraulic pedal set that comes inverted tbh
Ricmotech has one available.
That said, speaking from experience, the JBVs are trivial to invert
These look like they are pretty fantastic. But that being said, those Asetek Invicta pedals sound better to me every day. Pricing is pretty great for how good the break is as well when compared to Heusinkveld Ultimate pedals.
You mentioned several times that you have personly been using them for a good amount of time now. Can you give us a hint as to when we may hear more about and/or when a launch date will be announced?
The Aseteks? Best bet is to follow them on FB and Twitter. They’ve been posting pretty regular updates
Does the fact that you have a hydraulic link and pressure gauge instead of a metal rod and load cell really make a big difference in term of feel? It looks like most of the pedal response is coming from the elastomer stack in both cases.
Hey Will, i'm in the market for a pedal set however i went through your videos and I can't pinpoint the info I need to compare all of these that you reviewed in the last year. Which one would you say is the best in terms of range of motion? I also am looking for something that has good size pads (for heel to toe). Any options you suggest?
Sounds like the HE Ultimate + is probably the most suitable for you out of what we’ve reviewed. Huge amount of adjustability.
Interesting option over my HS and Mecas. What I don‘t understand why the pedal arms are always so long. I have average foot size of 8.5-9 and need to build a raiser for the feet in order to have the right touchpoint to the pedals.
26:45 pretty sure they're talking about new users. If you already have a preference for hard, there is no need to start soft
Wow you have a link to every fanatec there is Kie25 only has EU and can’t get any other affiliations like the US for some odd reason
3:45 - "Unless you have really small or massive feet"
Cries in US shoe size 16.
This pedal design and form factor definately looks familiar to the simagic pedal kit
This set has been out way longer then the Simagic set, so it's the other way round. 😉
Is there a way to make these work with an Xbox?
Hey will think you could get me hooked up with a review set.
Not sure if you tested the Realgear Gtpro3 pedals but looking at the HPP and Realgear what would you go with? Keep in mind the HPP are onky 100$ less for me than the almost real car pedal box from Realgear. For me the Realgear just looks so much better these HPP look like a toy.
Great video, to bad he just sold the company i was told ,to a company in Europe hopefully they keep up the quality that Mark did.
love u g
Was just about to buy ultimates but now I'm undecides
Can't go wrong man!
I’ve had both and the Ultimates are def better in respect to the software side of things. You can fine tune the ultimates to suit you and the car far more easily.
But I now have simtrecs and it beats them all in performance and software
@@barrymanon9459 I can't find those available anywhere
@@PeteV80 Where are you located?
@@barrymanon9459 Ontario
They remind me of the Simagic P2000 pedals.
Some similar elements for sure. These were around before the Simagic pedals.
@@boostedmedia Will you guys review the p2000? I had them for about a month and have a couple of things I'd like to hear about from you.
Unlikely. We won’t deal with Simagic directly after past experiences.
@@boostedmedia oh ok, that's a pity
Yep. We unfortunately can’t get access to their products anymore even if we wanted to. All reviewers have to be approved apparently.
Interesting hashtag choice
Somehow it took on the description and tags from the previous video. Fixed now. 😂
I figured that might of been the case 😂 enjoying the video so far and happy new year :)
Wait these look almost exactly like the simagic pedals. interesting
Exactly what i thought too when saw these
This set has been out way longer then the Simagic set, so it's the other way round. 😉
@@IvebenKruzen this is exactly why i said "interesting" XD
@@fpupesh sorry I thought you ment it was "copied" from Simagic, my mistake. 👍
These pedals appear to be great...wish they would come in all silver, red, or black, not that baby blue...
They look like good pedals, but hydraulics mean it has hydraulic fluid in it. That is fine until it leaks and sprays on the rug or your pc... But if you can afford that, then they are great, but they should actually hold oil, there are some that hold a decent amount in small containers. But for the "Formula" style a clutch pedal is fairly useless. And I love clutches, but I prefer a GT style.
No hydraulic fluid in these. I have the PRX SEs and those used mineral oil, so no reason to change that design. Also, never had a leak with mine.
Wrong timestamps?
Yeah no idea what happened there. Fixed now.
Be careful buying HPP, I have had two people who bought this pedal and have absolutely horrific after sales service, HPP were asking marked up money for people to pay for parts even though they are under warranty, and the owner also doesn't respond to phone call and only email back months later, Watch out.
Not my experience with them. Emails have been answered promptly, also phone calls and this is recently.
@@John-ok8ts We warranties any parts you buy second hand. I had to buy a new cylinder after I bought my PRX used, but he serviced my second cylinder for free after it started to leak by.
Good to see people sharing their real world experiences here respectfully. Thanks guys!