I was in a covers band for the past couple of years that used a very similar system. It was by far the best on-stage control I’ve ever had. We all had the app on our phones with our individual mixes set up. Any slight tweak we wanted to our mix was super easy to achieve. And as a plus for the shows for where we were responsible for our own FOH mix it was super easy to do out of the same console. If anyone is on the fence with the setup costs involved in putting together such a rig, the payoff in ease of use, and just the comfort of having a consistent sound each show, is definitely worth it. Great video Rhett, awesome nerd-out on what can be some fairly dry subject matter. Glad to hear it’s working for you guys!
"It makes FOH engineers very happy." Damn right it does! I love the stage volume reduction it brings. I was able to mix a pop-country band with their own IEM at just above 85db for a dinner set while still maintaining a pretty punchy mix! Being able to utilize my aux busses as instrument/vocal subgroups rather than monitor mixes is also a major plus as well. :D
Dustin Thiessen it was outdoors and they kinda tucked the drummer away, but he also knew not to hit insanely hard during that part of the set. And there were no amps! Lead guitar was on a helix and bassist was on a sansamp.
It's good in situations when you have noise limitations or a small PA, but in the end, wedges always give you a better feel and I find musicians "get into the gig" more with loud wedges and a larger stage. Sometimes a mix of IEM and wedges are even better, especially for drummers and bass players.
@@mattrehm8612 I agree. However, it is important to note that bands knowledgable enough in basic audio are using these monitor rigs because they're tired of shitty FOH/Monitor sound (for various reasons). These days more and more musicians I mix for are getting more and more savvy to what the want things to sound like and are taking matters into their own hands. I personally love it. The only time I hate this system is when you get a bunch of boomers that don't understand you can't have RF stay on the same frequency from city to city. Other than that you can achieve almost studio like mixes even in smaller rooms.
Our band was JUST talking about this. This is a FANTASTIC and clear explanation. Yes, the IEM video would be great. And add links to the equipment and hopefully you can get a referral rebate.
So, this rack is comprised of several pieces of gear mentioned here. As far as the isolated split, it's a rack-mounted snake (with some extras that I can't tell what they're used for), that is fed to FOH. All the mic inputs come from the patchbay (ART S8 Microphone Splitter) and from the Behringer SD8 snake box and then split off from there and they all go to the rack-mounted snake and the X32 Rack console.
@@beauherron4258 The drum mics are plugged directly to the SD8 (I imagine Ian splits those channels internally), the FOH snake consists of a multipin plug in type of snake. Best-Tronics does a similar multipin rack snake setup, and yes, the cables going to the drum mics, are already on the top of the rack ready to connect.
I appreciate this video, guys. I'm a sales employee at a major music retailer and I've been getting questions lately about wireless in ears. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that there's a super cost effective way to do it yet, but it doesn't seem like we're far off from this being the norm. For now I'll be sure to send customers to this video since this is the best explanation I've seen so far! Thanks again.
Love that pin cable to house. Nice setup guys, very professional and a must have for gigging bands. I am currently working with a sound production team in the Charlotte NC. Splawn Amplification, when bands show up with these in ear rigs it does make our life much easier. I will say this for folks who are considering building this rig. You must provide your own connections to house. I know this seems like a duh, however it has happened. Thanks Rhett and Ian for showing us around your setup.
That's the interesting part to me to (cables to FOH). It would seem like you need another audio snake or ton of individual cables (6-8 drums mic's, bass di, E gtr cab, vocals, etc).
Wow !! This is mind blowing !! I play in a band in South América, and we have to cope every night with the worst case scenario because of the precarious situation of the venues in my country and the technology you use and show in this video is like a dream to us, but its great to learn all this stuff because maybe someday we could afford a system like this ! Ive been watching your videos and they have tons of great info ! Saludos !!
I use pretty much the same set up for my band in the UK (also based around the Behringer X32). The consistency from gig to gig is amazing and you have the ability to save scenes which allows you to recall different settings if you have a different band set up or different room types. It's particularly great for running my guitar (as well as keyboards, vocals, drums and horns) in stereo. Sound checks are much more streamlined and the only instruments that really need prepping are drums and vocals (due to them using microphones). I use a Helix for these gigs so my sound is the same each gig. Obviously the front of house engineering still needs to do his/her checks but we can get to that a lot quicker with this system.
When the cover band I was in played (most every weekend in different venues), we had our own monitor rig and splitter snake. I still use my old Shure PSM200 system, BUT... nice triple-driver (or better) custom molded buds make the biggest difference. The better the seal, the better the sound.
When I was gigging a few years ago, our 4 piece band was using a similar setup (Mackie). Each one of us was able to control our own monitor mix in our in-ears via our iPhones/iPads.
Guy Lannewehr you could do this with the x32 also. No iPhone app :-( but no limit on the number of iPad connections. Would be great if you had charts on iPads already, could just switch apps and adjust mix.
New sub here. I play in a GnR tribute here in Dallas-Ft. Worth....we play regularly, mostly clubs with some outdoor venues, and some road gigs.... I just wanna say thank you for this series.....kinda shows what and HOW you do what you do on the road. Been following you and Rick Beatto for a while now, and I’ve learned a lot! So...thanks again Rhett! Keep rocking
We use the M32c in a similar setup. You can adjust your own mix via an app on your phone if you want to. You don't have to ask one person to make the adjustments for you.
thanks for the helpful explanation! sharing some novice questions below - * do the in ears cancel out all the sound behind you from the amp/drums/other instruments? or do you hear the sound from the in ears plus that stuff? * what are some use cases for changing what you hear vs. what the audience hears (e.g. adding reverb)? * what if the in ears go mid set for whatever reason? just play with the sound of room?
I have a very similar setup for my band but use the Soundcraft UI24. Difference is, sometimes at smaller gigs, we don't have a sound guy, so in that instance we can simply send a left and right mix to the front of house system. It works great!
Thanks, Rhett! I've been bringing this up with my band, so this is GREAT having someone break it down and explain everything. We would love to see a follow-up video on IEMs! They're more commonplace now and I'd really like to hear your experiences with them before we make this investment.
We run a similar system with the even smaler Behringer XAir 18. The bassplayer and I even went one step further by using the PM16 which, in your case, might be redundant since you have the EQ, Comp and FX stuff done in the X32, though. Cool video!
I too want to see a video on IEM with all the goodies about stage volume, volume of your monitors and how they compare to the good old days of wedges. Great things to have to protect the ears!
Rhett!! Im so glad I asked about the setup, looks really good and it gives me a lot of ideas of how my band mates and I can get started with wireless IEMS! Thanks!!!!
Awesome video & explanation of the sound gear. I must admit that this video's sound was so good that I thought someone was in my kitchen making plate noise. Again, your videos are very well received here in Memphis
Very interesting. It would also be interesting to hear how a given song varies across each of the player's monitors (based on their preferences, of course).
My band runs things the EXACT SAME WAY and we LOVE IT !! We know our own sound and we know how we want our IEM mix to sound. The FOH can do whatever he wants to do totally dependant of what we are doing. We use a QSC board and do all our control via our IPADS
So you have your instrument/mic XLR's coming to your QSC board and then need XLR's out from splitter to FOH inputs, correct? Just trying to configure our system without a crazy amount of cable laying around, haha.
When I was playing drums in my last band I did a basic version of this just for me using a Behringer RX1202FX EuroRack Pro Rackmount Mixer, a few Y cables to take feeds from the drum mics and then I’d take the speaker emulated line out/DI from the guitarist’s & bassists heads. This was all done for less than £150. It is possible to do this so cheap and it made a huge difference.
This is a great video and thank you for doing it. I'm looking at same thing on a smaller scale. For a reality check on costs, each musician must purchase 1 x transmitter, 1 x receiver, and 1 x in-ear monitors. Transmitter/receiver for each person must be paired and a unique frequency from the other members of the band. Cost impact is the quality of the in-ear piece (custom fit vs inserts, all flavors of each) and the brand/quality of the transmitter/receiver pair. On top of that, with your option, all the other hardware for mixing and such. A basic setup could use each aux send from FOH to tailor as many independent sends as the board can send to aux out and the transmitters would sit with the FOH board, correct? I do love your isolation setup is cost were not a factor for sure.
Yes, would like a detail video on in ear monitors. Appreciate you & the guys explaining all this . Will probably watch this a couple more times ( still looks somewhat complicated to me) . Thanks for posting your "life as a working musician" - Betty
We've been using a Behringer X32 for a few years now. It is possible to have several iPads controlling the mixer at the same time. The only real "problem" we have has is when more than one person tries to mute a channel at the same time. (Mute: Off-On-Off-On...) In theory, each performer could mount an iPad on their mike stand, and control their own mixes at will. Nice.
This was so interesting. I am an intermediate guitar player and started playing gigs a few years ago. I know very little about gear, so this was very helpful.
Obviously Rhett and his team are committed to what they have. I am just starting out and to do the same thing. I totally recommend the Behringer Flow 8. Give the Main to the sound guy and you keep the Monitor out for your in ear. The mixer is enough for 2 mics, 2 mono instruments and 2 stereo instruments. Everything can be controlled remotely from a smart phone. Just tell the sound guy not to touch your monitor mix.
Cool video! Very helpful for live show players. Could you please add links to the equipment you talked about in this video? That would be very helpful!
You can usually set a single SM58 on the floor pointing up at the drummer from behind. It's a mono drum feed, but IEM's are commonly run in dual mono anyway.
Thanks for sharing the video, I've learn a few things that I will bring with me and discuss with my band... but again how do you guys do this when you are the opening act? Are you guys aloud to unplug the FOH snake and plug all your mics in for when you play and then unplug everything from the FOH snake so that the next band can plug there mics in?
This is THE question he should be talking about. For bands without their own sound guy, you either have to talk to the house guy in advance about intercepting the stage lines & get there early enough to switch the lines. Then you have to leave it setup all night or get help from stage hands to switch the lines back when your set is over. This isn't too terrible if you have 2 snakes coming from the splitter(Male & Fem.) running to the stage input box; It gives you length to put your IEM rack wherever you want onstage.
@@alamakluke I feel like its easiest when you're opening to do a self contained setup. I bring my own mics/XLRs and run to my mixer. Kick, 1 OH, Guitar(e609 on small desktop stand), Bass(DI), Vocal Split from Helix> XR18. I think I might even try the single dynamic mic on the floor for drums like Zalen suggested above. If every person in the band hooks up their own mic/line, then it should be fairly painless. You don't even have to deal with the sound guy this way and you get the same mic sound every time.
Great stuff Rhett! My friend Jon has one of those X32 Racks in his P.A. setup. He likes it a lot, but has had a few issues with the internal WIFI router, so he added an external one (Linksys I think) which he says works better for him. Have you guys had any issues like that? Good luck with the shows & keep up the great work!
Gret video, i do not play anymore, whish we had this system back in the 80,90, 2000 when I was playing. Nonadays I only do drums covers on youtube of stuff I used to play and like. The IEM have been from the beginning of setting up my small home studio an issue to me; playing drums in a 16x9 room, no matter how gentle hitting it was overpowering my IEM, I tried Shure EIMs on my first videos, the lack of click track and the lack of proper mix-live drums balance played a role on tempo sometimes, without hearing good mix it is impossible to play right for anyone! So the issue was resolved after I expended $1300.00 in Westone ES60 with custom ear molding; these have 3 double drivers each channel, now the isolation is almost nothing bleeds from outside and I can hear my mixed drums and the drumless mp3 in my ears and play according to what I hear; the difference is so great that i wonder why this was not around on times when I used to play and leaves me wishing i could test them in a real stage once more but those chances are slim now, I am just glad that for what i have them now, they work great! I think most of the people watching the video want to know what brand of IEM you are using; the surely look weston to me, The Shure EIMs I tried they never worked for me right!
One of the best videos that I’ve seen on this topic. Question: since you are always setting up/break down, how long does it take on average to get a sound in your in-ears at each venue? Curious because of the mic placements, especially for the drums. Thanks for all the information!!!
You can go considerably simpler than this and less expensive with the same results. The X32 can do front of house AND separate monitor mixes and there is an app you can use to mix your own ears on your phone. The monitor mix is pre-fader but post-input gain, so that is the only thing you're sharing with the front of house mix, which is not a problem.
The rackmount X 32 s really cool. I have the Xtouch controller as well for physical control of monitors and PA FOH mixing. I can use my Lenovo tablet. I use my laptop and 2nd monitor as well. I like the idea of isolated splitting all your sources to FOH. I setup a station on the side of the stage. FOH is controlled with either a 2nd laptop via Ethernet or tablet with my current setup.
Thanks for asking man, was wondering that when they said they run their mics through it then to FOH. Figured they had to have their own mics or swapping this out during a stage switch over would be a pain for the sound guy. Glad someone got that clarified.
I’m still a little confused about this. The opening band is mic’d with house mics. They finish their set, and then what? The engineer unplugs his mics and uses yours instead for your set? I would think a lot of engineers would be unhappy having to do the extra work or at least nervous relying on the bands gear instead. Any tips for how to do this without upsetting the engineer? Any tips for doing this if you don’t have your own mics?
gulfwind94 I run a similar rig without bringing my own mics, though we have them if we need them. The key is communicating a week or more in advance of the show so they have time to prep. We usually plug the mics into our passive splitter before the first band plays and leave the splitter in place until the end of the show to minimize transition time. We occasionally get complaints, but it usually isn’t a problem if the sound engineer knows ahead of time.
I would really appreciate an IEM video specifically focused on the guitarist. My experience of monitoring my guitar through headphones, either from a line out of amp, a Line6 HD500X headphone out, or a guitar amp with a mic in front, is that the headphone sound is sounds like a cheap digital amp when compared to how it sounds through a speaker. I've tried many different types of headphone, and it's never satisfying. I'd love to know if it's possible for a guitarist to hear their sound through IEMs in a way that's as pleasing, or at least pleasing enough, as if they were listening to the actual amp, or even (eg) a Helix through speakers.
This is almost exactly the same setup my band uses. We all bought our own transmitter and receiver packs that way if any of us leave the band we can keep those going forward.
Great video. Always wondered how that all came together. What type of IEM’s are those....as far as number of drivers. Some say more is better, others say that 3 or more is overkill.
12:51 General audience can't tell if a band is good or not, they do want to talk throughout the show, no matter how much of a great show you put on. If Mary can't hear the drivel that Sally is speaking, she'll say that the band was too loud. Especially at corporate events like you show here.
Starcrunch72 Well.... the drivel might be about making a donation to cancer research in this case, so.... remember we’re there as entertainment.. if our music and performance warrants, we earn their attention. That’s how I feel about it although i do know what you mean..
Would love a vid on the actual in-ears. With my band I have always assumed once we switched to in-ear monitoring (vs. wedges) there would be no reason for any amp on stage, they would iso-ed off stage. How do you use your stage amp for your guitar while using the in-ears? In our setup, I find our mixer alone can't handle the dynamic range of my boost for solos (gets lost) so I've always insisted on using a stange amp to bolster my leads, etc... Thanks!
Nice overview guys. Do you set up ambient mics or do you just get bleed from the vocal mics? Also, was it difficult to convince anyone to go this route?
I was in a covers band for the past couple of years that used a very similar system. It was by far the best on-stage control I’ve ever had. We all had the app on our phones with our individual mixes set up. Any slight tweak we wanted to our mix was super easy to achieve. And as a plus for the shows for where we were responsible for our own FOH mix it was super easy to do out of the same console.
If anyone is on the fence with the setup costs involved in putting together such a rig, the payoff in ease of use, and just the comfort of having a consistent sound each show, is definitely worth it.
Great video Rhett, awesome nerd-out on what can be some fairly dry subject matter. Glad to hear it’s working for you guys!
you remember any name?
Can I get more of the caterers slapping the silverware in my mix please?
Hey! They have a gig too ya know.
With a little Plate Reverb and some delay, thanks.
Michael Thompson 😂
@@prillewitz Make sure that delay's tapped in right or you're fired!
So incredibly annoying.
"It makes FOH engineers very happy."
Damn right it does! I love the stage volume reduction it brings. I was able to mix a pop-country band with their own IEM at just above 85db for a dinner set while still maintaining a pretty punchy mix!
Being able to utilize my aux busses as instrument/vocal subgroups rather than monitor mixes is also a major plus as well. :D
they must have had a really quiet drummer, and guitar amps ;)
Dustin Thiessen it was outdoors and they kinda tucked the drummer away, but he also knew not to hit insanely hard during that part of the set. And there were no amps! Lead guitar was on a helix and bassist was on a sansamp.
It's good in situations when you have noise limitations or a small PA, but in the end, wedges always give you a better feel and I find musicians "get into the gig" more with loud wedges and a larger stage.
Sometimes a mix of IEM and wedges are even better, especially for drummers and bass players.
Matt Rehm 100% spot on!!
@@mattrehm8612 I agree. However, it is important to note that bands knowledgable enough in basic audio are using these monitor rigs because they're tired of shitty FOH/Monitor sound (for various reasons). These days more and more musicians I mix for are getting more and more savvy to what the want things to sound like and are taking matters into their own hands. I personally love it. The only time I hate this system is when you get a bunch of boomers that don't understand you can't have RF stay on the same frequency from city to city. Other than that you can achieve almost studio like mixes even in smaller rooms.
“Noah vocal, Ian’s vocal, whoever’s on bass vocal”
Sad bass noises :(
Davie504 I need bASS!
Our band was JUST talking about this. This is a FANTASTIC and clear explanation. Yes, the IEM video would be great. And add links to the equipment and hopefully you can get a referral rebate.
More explanation on the hardware behind the isolated split would be greatly appreciated!
i agree with you james! more of that please rhett
So, this rack is comprised of several pieces of gear mentioned here. As far as the isolated split, it's a rack-mounted snake (with some extras that I can't tell what they're used for), that is fed to FOH. All the mic inputs come from the patchbay (ART S8 Microphone Splitter) and from the Behringer SD8 snake box and then split off from there and they all go to the rack-mounted snake and the X32 Rack console.
@@beauherron4258 The drum mics are plugged directly to the SD8 (I imagine Ian splits those channels internally), the FOH snake consists of a multipin plug in type of snake. Best-Tronics does a similar multipin rack snake setup, and yes, the cables going to the drum mics, are already on the top of the rack ready to connect.
I appreciate this video, guys. I'm a sales employee at a major music retailer and I've been getting questions lately about wireless in ears. Unfortunately it doesn't appear that there's a super cost effective way to do it yet, but it doesn't seem like we're far off from this being the norm. For now I'll be sure to send customers to this video since this is the best explanation I've seen so far! Thanks again.
I've been using the Xvive monitoring system, and it's worked very well for me so far. Much more cost effective than the shure systems.
My group is looking into getting a wireless monitor setup and this video was perfect timing!! Thanks man!
Love that pin cable to house. Nice setup guys, very professional and a must have for gigging bands. I am currently working with a sound production team in the Charlotte NC. Splawn Amplification, when bands show up with these in ear rigs it does make our life much easier.
I will say this for folks who are considering building this rig. You must provide your own connections to house. I know this seems like a duh, however it has happened. Thanks Rhett and Ian for showing us around your setup.
That's the interesting part to me to (cables to FOH). It would seem like you need another audio snake or ton of individual cables (6-8 drums mic's, bass di, E gtr cab, vocals, etc).
Wow !! This is mind blowing !! I play in a band in South América, and we have to cope every night with the worst case scenario because of the precarious situation of the venues in my country and the technology you use and show in this video is like a dream to us, but its great to learn all this stuff because maybe someday we could afford a system like this ! Ive been watching your videos and they have tons of great info ! Saludos !!
I use pretty much the same set up for my band in the UK (also based around the Behringer X32). The consistency from gig to gig is amazing and you have the ability to save scenes which allows you to recall different settings if you have a different band set up or different room types.
It's particularly great for running my guitar (as well as keyboards, vocals, drums and horns) in stereo. Sound checks are much more streamlined and the only instruments that really need prepping are drums and vocals (due to them using microphones). I use a Helix for these gigs so my sound is the same each gig. Obviously the front of house engineering still needs to do his/her checks but we can get to that a lot quicker with this system.
It's lovely to see you all have this set up your IEMs, but even greater that you seem to all get along so well.
Thanks for this!! The X32 and all its variants are just so incredibly useful. Some people don't like IEM's but I love them!
Thanks for this one! My band has been thinking of going IEM. Great overview and look at a real working setup.
When the cover band I was in played (most every weekend in different venues), we had our own monitor rig and splitter snake.
I still use my old Shure PSM200 system, BUT... nice triple-driver (or better) custom molded buds make the biggest difference.
The better the seal, the better the sound.
Yes, I would like to see a video about the IEM's please!
I second that, along with what kind you recommend. There’s so many companies out there and it’s hard to know who is legit.
Yes do a IEM video
Definitely should do
Count me in!
Please
When I was gigging a few years ago, our 4 piece band was using a similar setup (Mackie). Each one of us was able to control our own monitor mix in our in-ears via our iPhones/iPads.
Guy Lannewehr you could do this with the x32 also. No iPhone app :-( but no limit on the number of iPad connections. Would be great if you had charts on iPads already, could just switch apps and adjust mix.
New sub here. I play in a GnR tribute here in Dallas-Ft. Worth....we play regularly, mostly clubs with some outdoor venues, and some road gigs....
I just wanna say thank you for this series.....kinda shows what and HOW you do what you do on the road.
Been following you and Rick Beatto for a while now, and I’ve learned a lot!
So...thanks again Rhett!
Keep rocking
We use the M32c in a similar setup. You can adjust your own mix via an app on your phone if you want to. You don't have to ask one person to make the adjustments for you.
thanks for the helpful explanation! sharing some novice questions below -
* do the in ears cancel out all the sound behind you from the amp/drums/other instruments? or do you hear the sound from the in ears plus that stuff?
* what are some use cases for changing what you hear vs. what the audience hears (e.g. adding reverb)?
* what if the in ears go mid set for whatever reason? just play with the sound of room?
Thanks Rhett and Ian - appreciate the thorough and clear, informative overview of your in ear monitor system.
Ah now I want to start a band just to set up the wireless monitoring system
lol fr
I have a very similar setup for my band but use the Soundcraft UI24. Difference is, sometimes at smaller gigs, we don't have a sound guy, so in that instance we can simply send a left and right mix to the front of house system. It works great!
I was waiting for the flying guitars in the outro with the same fear that i saw it in the last vid.... Glad you didnt put that part xD
Thanks, Rhett! I've been bringing this up with my band, so this is GREAT having someone break it down and explain everything. We would love to see a follow-up video on IEMs! They're more commonplace now and I'd really like to hear your experiences with them before we make this investment.
Yes I definitely want to see you do IEM video! I'd like to pass it on to my church music director
We run a similar system with the even smaler Behringer XAir 18. The bassplayer and I even went one step further by using the PM16 which, in your case, might be redundant since you have the EQ, Comp and FX stuff done in the X32, though. Cool video!
Great vid. Yes to a follow up on your IEMs.
I too want to see a video on IEM with all the goodies about stage volume, volume of your monitors and how they compare to the good old days of wedges. Great things to have to protect the ears!
I have been looking at these systems. So pumped to see your video!
Rhett!! Im so glad I asked about the setup, looks really good and it gives me a lot of ideas of how my band mates and I can get started with wireless IEMS! Thanks!!!!
Wow this so interesting and so efficient. Thank you for posting this. You guys are awesome for doing the chairity gig for childrens cancer.
always wondered how those things worked….pretty cool thanks rhett
Awesome video & explanation of the sound gear. I must admit that this video's sound was so good that I thought someone was in my kitchen making plate noise. Again, your videos are very well received here in Memphis
This is one of the most useful video for me! Endlessly grateful.
Yeah buddy, IEMs deserve a video on their own. Big differences between a 3 driver universal fit and a 10 driver custom mold!
Absolutely would love for you to do a vid on in ear drivers! 😉
Very interesting. It would also be interesting to hear how a given song varies across each of the player's monitors (based on their preferences, of course).
FYI Typo 10:04 MoNitor. Enjoyed. Thanks.
My band runs things the EXACT SAME WAY and we LOVE IT !! We know our own sound and we know how we want our IEM mix to sound. The FOH can do whatever he wants to do totally dependant of what we are doing. We use a QSC board and do all our control via our IPADS
So you have your instrument/mic XLR's coming to your QSC board and then need XLR's out from splitter to FOH inputs, correct? Just trying to configure our system without a crazy amount of cable laying around, haha.
When I was playing drums in my last band I did a basic version of this just for me using a Behringer RX1202FX EuroRack Pro Rackmount Mixer, a few Y cables to take feeds from the drum mics and then I’d take the speaker emulated line out/DI from the guitarist’s & bassists heads. This was all done for less than £150. It is possible to do this so cheap and it made a huge difference.
This is a great video and thank you for doing it. I'm looking at same thing on a smaller scale. For a reality check on costs, each musician must purchase 1 x transmitter, 1 x receiver, and 1 x in-ear monitors. Transmitter/receiver for each person must be paired and a unique frequency from the other members of the band. Cost impact is the quality of the in-ear piece (custom fit vs inserts, all flavors of each) and the brand/quality of the transmitter/receiver pair. On top of that, with your option, all the other hardware for mixing and such. A basic setup could use each aux send from FOH to tailor as many independent sends as the board can send to aux out and the transmitters would sit with the FOH board, correct? I do love your isolation setup is cost were not a factor for sure.
Thanks! very clarifier
this is the most advanced tech i have ever seen!....good video! thanks for sharing this.
Yes, would like a detail video on in ear monitors. Appreciate you & the guys explaining all this . Will probably watch this a couple more times ( still looks somewhat complicated to me) . Thanks for posting your "life as a working musician" - Betty
Great video. I'm intrigued to know what you think about what FOH might do to how the band sounds to the audience, or do you have input with them?
When you're doing a corporate gig like this one, the FOH guy has to do what the "buyer" or "event manager" dictates.
That moment when he’s describing the various inputs on the splitter at 3:16- “and whoever’s on bass”. Story of my life!
This may be your best vid yet. Thanks!
We've been using a Behringer X32 for a few years now. It is possible to have several iPads controlling the mixer at the same time. The only real "problem" we have has is when more than one person tries to mute a channel at the same time. (Mute: Off-On-Off-On...) In theory, each performer could mount an iPad on their mike stand, and control their own mixes at will. Nice.
This was so interesting. I am an intermediate guitar player and started playing gigs a few years ago. I know very little about gear, so this was very helpful.
Obviously Rhett and his team are committed to what they have. I am just starting out and to do the same thing. I totally recommend the Behringer Flow 8. Give the Main to the sound guy and you keep the Monitor out for your in ear. The mixer is enough for 2 mics, 2 mono instruments and 2 stereo instruments. Everything can be controlled remotely from a smart phone. Just tell the sound guy not to touch your monitor mix.
Very informative, Rhett cool stuff to know, since I play on a almost silent stage most Sundays
Good stuff Rhett! Really helps to see a working bands setup all the way through. Thank you!
This is really close to the same set up my band runs. Love the layout of the vid. Good job.
Cool video! Very helpful for live show players. Could you please add links to the equipment you talked about in this video? That would be very helpful!
^ this is what everyone is thinking!
Just as always , Rhett does very informative videos !
Yes please, a video on the IEM!
One of your best videos!!!!
Great timing. I'm looking into building an IEM rig and the X32. Good to see I'm on the right path.
Are you guys splitting every drum mic as well? How does that work with load in load out with other bands and quick stage turnaround times?
My thoughts immediately
You can usually set a single SM58 on the floor pointing up at the drummer from behind. It's a mono drum feed, but IEM's are commonly run in dual mono anyway.
Thanks for sharing the video, I've learn a few things that I will bring with me and discuss with my band... but again how do you guys do this when you are the opening act? Are you guys aloud to unplug the FOH snake and plug all your mics in for when you play and then unplug everything from the FOH snake so that the next band can plug there mics in?
This is THE question he should be talking about. For bands without their own sound guy, you either have to talk to the house guy in advance about intercepting the stage lines & get there early enough to switch the lines. Then you have to leave it setup all night or get help from stage hands to switch the lines back when your set is over. This isn't too terrible if you have 2 snakes coming from the splitter(Male & Fem.) running to the stage input box; It gives you length to put your IEM rack wherever you want onstage.
@@alamakluke I feel like its easiest when you're opening to do a self contained setup. I bring my own mics/XLRs and run to my mixer. Kick, 1 OH, Guitar(e609 on small desktop stand), Bass(DI), Vocal Split from Helix> XR18. I think I might even try the single dynamic mic on the floor for drums like Zalen suggested above. If every person in the band hooks up their own mic/line, then it should be fairly painless. You don't even have to deal with the sound guy this way and you get the same mic sound every time.
Awesome information guys!!
I've always wondered how you protect your hearing, so yeah more please! 👍
great guys, this is very helpful for me!! thanks!!!
Great stuff Rhett! My friend Jon has one of those X32 Racks in his P.A. setup. He likes it a lot, but has had a few issues with the internal WIFI router, so he added an external one (Linksys I think) which he says works better for him. Have you guys had any issues like that? Good luck with the shows & keep up the great work!
Yes always set up you own
Thanks guys, I learned a ton. Now I know why your videos sound so good! Oh, and talent...
Gret video, i do not play anymore, whish we had this system back in the 80,90, 2000 when I was playing. Nonadays I only do drums covers on youtube of stuff I used to play and like. The IEM have been from the beginning of setting up my small home studio an issue to me; playing drums in a 16x9 room, no matter how gentle hitting it was overpowering my IEM, I tried Shure EIMs on my first videos, the lack of click track and the lack of proper mix-live drums balance played a role on tempo sometimes, without hearing good mix it is impossible to play right for anyone! So the issue was resolved after I expended $1300.00 in Westone ES60 with custom ear molding; these have 3 double drivers each channel, now the isolation is almost nothing bleeds from outside and I can hear my mixed drums and the drumless mp3 in my ears and play according to what I hear; the difference is so great that i wonder why this was not around on times when I used to play and leaves me wishing i could test them in a real stage once more but those chances are slim now, I am just glad that for what i have them now, they work great! I think most of the people watching the video want to know what brand of IEM you are using; the surely look weston to me, The Shure EIMs I tried they never worked for me right!
This is fantastic. Thanks for the video. I love my X32 mini in my home studio. Great way to do IEMs!
One of the best videos that I’ve seen on this topic. Question: since you are always setting up/break down, how long does it take on average to get a sound in your in-ears at each venue? Curious because of the mic placements, especially for the drums. Thanks for all the information!!!
That's awesome you did a charity gig.
You can go considerably simpler than this and less expensive with the same results. The X32 can do front of house AND separate monitor mixes and there is an app you can use to mix your own ears on your phone. The monitor mix is pre-fader but post-input gain, so that is the only thing you're sharing with the front of house mix, which is not a problem.
Yes for in ears!
The rackmount X 32 s really cool. I have the Xtouch controller as well for physical control of monitors and PA FOH mixing. I can use my Lenovo tablet. I use my laptop and 2nd monitor as well. I like the idea of isolated splitting all your sources to FOH. I setup a station on the side of the stage. FOH is controlled with either a 2nd laptop via Ethernet or tablet with my current setup.
Great stuff Rhett!
This is such a great setup. I love it!
Great video as always man!
So do you bring your own mics every gig then, or does the engineer plug the house mics into rack?
we travel with our own mics.
Thanks for asking man, was wondering that when they said they run their mics through it then to FOH. Figured they had to have their own mics or swapping this out during a stage switch over would be a pain for the sound guy. Glad someone got that clarified.
@@RhettShull thank you for answering Matt's question.
I’m still a little confused about this. The opening band is mic’d with house mics. They finish their set, and then what? The engineer unplugs his mics and uses yours instead for your set? I would think a lot of engineers would be unhappy having to do the extra work or at least nervous relying on the bands gear instead. Any tips for how to do this without upsetting the engineer? Any tips for doing this if you don’t have your own mics?
gulfwind94 I run a similar rig without bringing my own mics, though we have them if we need them. The key is communicating a week or more in advance of the show so they have time to prep. We usually plug the mics into our passive splitter before the first band plays and leave the splitter in place until the end of the show to minimize transition time. We occasionally get complaints, but it usually isn’t a problem if the sound engineer knows ahead of time.
Thanks Rhett....very helpful.
Hope you come to Chicago soon.
Awesome video, Rhett! Thanks.
I would really appreciate an IEM video specifically focused on the guitarist. My experience of monitoring my guitar through headphones, either from a line out of amp, a Line6 HD500X headphone out, or a guitar amp with a mic in front, is that the headphone sound is sounds like a cheap digital amp when compared to how it sounds through a speaker. I've tried many different types of headphone, and it's never satisfying. I'd love to know if it's possible for a guitarist to hear their sound through IEMs in a way that's as pleasing, or at least pleasing enough, as if they were listening to the actual amp, or even (eg) a Helix through speakers.
Thanks for sharing your rig setup... very helpful 👍👍
Awesome video thanks for the detail!
Such a great informative video. I was interested in learning more about IEM's and man did this help out...thanks.
GREAT VIDEO! Thanks for the information.
I'm now putting together my own IEM (and might even make a video of it myself) but I can't wait to use it for shows!
Can you share any scenes of your in ear mix setup maybe? Would love to check them out
Sure but what I really want is earless-wires, when's that release date? :>(
STOP READING MY MIND! When I was planning a pedal board you do a new pedal board set up I’m now looking in to IEM set ups and you upload this! 😂
This is almost exactly the same setup my band uses. We all bought our own transmitter and receiver packs that way if any of us leave the band we can keep those going forward.
Great video. Always wondered how that all came together. What type of IEM’s are those....as far as number of drivers. Some say more is better, others say that 3 or more is overkill.
Thanks Ian and Rhett.
Thanks guys. Very educational
Love this video! Do you put every piece of the drum kit into the iems or do you just have the toms bled into the overhead mics?
It's cool to see you get more use out of the helix. Is it just to keep stage volume to a minimum for this gig?
Very Good run throug with the rig- We are using Soundcraft UI24 with Shure&Sennheiser IEM in single rack! Very easy and sounds good!
12:51 General audience can't tell if a band is good or not, they do want to talk throughout the show, no matter how much of a great show you put on. If Mary can't hear the drivel that Sally is speaking, she'll say that the band was too loud. Especially at corporate events like you show here.
Starcrunch72 Well.... the drivel might be about making a donation to cancer research in this case, so.... remember we’re there as entertainment.. if our music and performance warrants, we earn their attention. That’s how I feel about it although i do know what you mean..
Would love a vid on the actual in-ears. With my band I have always assumed once we switched to in-ear monitoring (vs. wedges) there would be no reason for any amp on stage, they would iso-ed off stage. How do you use your stage amp for your guitar while using the in-ears? In our setup, I find our mixer alone can't handle the dynamic range of my boost for solos (gets lost) so I've always insisted on using a stange amp to bolster my leads, etc... Thanks!
Amps on stage look cool and the controls are easy to reach.
I think this would be the perfect job for an XR18 , the X32 rack seems like overkill for monitor EQ
Yes it could for mono IEM's, but for stereo (which is a big improvement over mono) you need the 32's outputs.
@@mattweber5675 it can do 4 stereo pairs
Nice overview guys. Do you set up ambient mics or do you just get bleed from the vocal mics? Also, was it difficult to convince anyone to go this route?
Nice job
Would have been helpful to put the links for the shure wireless packs and ear wedges