thanks for the video. I never painted porcelain. My question is i have a white porcelain tea set but i want to paint it ivory can i paint over it? Is it ok?
Amazing video, wow, this is very good liner work. Can you please tell which kiln do you you? i am on the way to buy one, but there are a lot a lot on market. i dont know which is good enough because some of them are too expensive for learning on porcelain painting. Please share your experience. thank you very much
Joanna, I want to paint a monogram on porcelain china using Roman Gold. Is that possible with a pen? or how would you recommend doing a monogram-brush, stencil?? Also, do you have a video on doing a monogram?
No Sharon i do not have a video on doing a monogram. in the past i have traced a design of the correct size onto tracing paper then taken a graphite pencil and covered the back of the tracing paper with graphite. Then with a ball point pen, traced the monogram onto the porcelain. the lighter, the better. i think it might be good to do some of it in pen and fire, then do your gold work only because it would give you some preliminary lines to work from. the Roman gold could be thinned down to a link consistency to write with. use a new pen so that you will not contaminate the gold, then keep that pen for gold only. I guess that would be a good subject for a new video! let me know if you have anymore questions.
@@sharonzion3301 any really fine tip pen point will do in a handled holder. This company in Texas sells fine points and you might look online to order or just call. Dallas China. dallaschina.com/... they will also sell holders... Btw. how did you do on your monogram?
Very beautiful work Joanna! I checked the websites you suggested for materials, but apparently the powders on Marylandchina are not lead free. Are you painting China ware for decorative purposes only? And can you suggest perhaps powders that are lead free. I'd really appreciate your reply.
Mourhaf Agh thank you for your question. Yes I paint pieces to eat or drink from. They stoped making paints with lead but there are a few around still try this site. Dallaschina.com I will look for more sites for you and let you know.
Why is it that, unlike in the videos, my lines don't come out strong and bold but rather thin, and the ink doesn't flow well ? What could be the issue?"
The line width is dependent on how hard your pressure is on you pen. As you have probably noticed that the pen nib spreads as you press down letting more ink come through. It does help also to keep a 45 degree angle between your pen and the surface. Also when mixing your pen medium and the paint together( which I always advise using dry paint to mix instead of a paint that is premixed for painting) , mix it to the consistency ink so it drips off you pallet knife in several drops. That is loose enough to run through your pen nib. Hope this helps you. Let me know. Thanks for your comment.
My grandmother taught China Painting. She used Shirl’s Pen Paint & some of Donazel’s Pen Paint. Have you ever used them or do you have an idea how could find some to order? Your work is beautiful. Thank you.
you may buy 1. dark tinting oil and mix with dry paint. 2. Kay knapp has a paint over pen oil (www.kayknapp.com/Results1.asp?Category=%25&Keyword=pen+oil ) use by itself. these you can mix yourself 3. dry paint with a light capaba oil ..add a little lavender, 4. dry paint with fat oil thin with lavender oil 5. dry paint with anise oil all these recipes mix to an ink consistency.
Hi Joanna, great video, thank you for sharing. Question about firing after scrolled. What temperature do you refire to? Is it food safe? Have you tried to scrolls on bisqued ware and then put on clear glaze? Also about oil to mix, will lineed oil work?
All the glazed porcelain ware is fired at between 1300-1600 degrees. depending on the colors you are using, so the black or dark green scroll work is fired to about 1400-1500. These that we use in this porcelain painting demo are all "over glaze " paints intended to paint, of course, over glazed surfaces so that they sink into the glazes when fired to become permanent part of the surface. we do have painters that work in bisque ware and use these same paints on bisque, but do not think they glaze afterwards due to the firing temperature of the glazes. mostly high fire glazes ...right....then it would fire out this paint....as far as oils, it has to be oils that will not flame up in the kiln, "not flammable "...we mix with mineral oil and turp. then let dry.....hope this helps. Joanna
The pen point is just a very fine quill pen that you can order from Maryland China or rynnchina.com online. I have used all kinds but the finer points are best. the holder that holds the point can be ordered also.
Ruth, I have taken instructions in porcelain painting (china Painting) and am a teacher myself. I do not know where you live, but it would be my pleasurer to find you a teacher, you will love it.....
Joanna Burch Hi Joanna, Thank you for your kind reply. I live near Grand Rapids MI. I have never seen anything like this advertised as far as classes go. I know there has to be someone in my area who could teach me. :) I wish we lived closer so you could teach me.
Carol Flegel Carol, I have a list of teachers in Michigan if you would like to call one to see who is near you. I do not know how to attach a list here, but you may contact me on my website and I can send it to you from there. www.joannaburch.com
this is a over glaze powder that you can put onto glazed surfaces, then fire in the kiln. the paint then heats up with the glaze and sinks down to become part of the glaze. it is then permanent and will not wash of or scratch off. thanks for your question....
+cameraTV1 Thanks for your comment. It does help me in future videos. As I said it was my first, and it was meant to let everyone know that technique was available. the pigment is an over glaze paint used in painting ceramics and porcelain item. it comes in a powder form and mixes with all types of oil. the pen oil can be a variety of oils, dark tenting oil, turpentine, and some places sell already mixed just for pen work. you may use any type of kiln as long as it goes to a 1500 degrees. I have Paragon brand. the pen point is a very fine "zebra" brand. if you have any other questions, please let me know. Joanna
stunning! if someone could reply with a link to buy the complete pen she is using, that would be appreciated. i mean the tip and the handle part..... im in south africa and no one sells them here.....
+Megan Thwaites you may order those pens and pen points from online co.'s - here are a couple www.Marylandchina.com and www.dallaschina.com thanks for viewing....
This is incredible. Thank you!
Really beautiful work - you have a wonderful eye.
thank you
Thank you in sharing! I'm just learning this technique and seem to like it. I also been doing more pen work in drawing my china painting.
Where do I find the pen and ink parts?
thanks for the video. I never painted porcelain. My question is i have a white porcelain tea set but i want to paint it ivory can i paint over it? Is it ok?
You are sooooo talented!!! Would love to know how to do this on fingernails, looks so elegant. Thanks for sharing!
These designs would look beautiful on nails using gel foiling!
yes they would
Amazing video, wow, this is very good liner work. Can you please tell which kiln do you you? i am on the way to buy one, but there are a lot a lot on market. i dont know which is good enough because some of them are too expensive for learning on porcelain painting. Please share your experience. thank you very much
Joanna, I want to paint a monogram on porcelain china using Roman Gold. Is that possible with a pen? or how would you recommend doing a monogram-brush, stencil?? Also, do you have a video on doing a monogram?
where are you located? yes you can use a pen with roman gold. a lady in Indiana has some decals you could go over in pen.
No Sharon i do not have a video on doing a monogram. in the past i have traced a design of the correct size onto tracing paper then taken a graphite pencil and covered the back of the tracing paper with graphite. Then with a ball point pen, traced the monogram onto the porcelain. the lighter, the better. i think it might be good to do some of it in pen and fire, then do your gold work only because it would give you some preliminary lines to work from. the Roman gold could be thinned down to a link consistency to write with. use a new pen so that you will not contaminate the gold, then keep that pen for gold only. I guess that would be a good subject for a new video! let me know if you have anymore questions.
@@JoannaBurch Thanks, this really helps! Can you tell me what type of pen to use?
@@sharonzion3301 any really fine tip pen point will do in a handled holder. This company in Texas sells fine points and you might look online to order or just call. Dallas China. dallaschina.com/... they will also sell holders... Btw. how did you do on your monogram?
Very beautiful work Joanna! I checked the websites you suggested for materials, but apparently the powders on Marylandchina are not lead free. Are you painting China ware for decorative purposes only? And can you suggest perhaps powders that are lead free. I'd really appreciate your reply.
Mourhaf Agh thank you for your question. Yes I paint pieces to eat or drink from. They stoped making paints with lead but there are a few around still try this site. Dallaschina.com I will look for more sites for you and let you know.
@@JoannaBurch thank you very much ! 🌺
This is beautiful . After firing is it safe to eat from plate that you painted
yes
Why is it that, unlike in the videos, my lines don't come out strong and bold but rather thin, and the ink doesn't flow well ? What could be the issue?"
The line width is dependent on how hard your pressure is on you pen. As you have probably noticed that the pen nib spreads as you press down letting more ink come through. It does help also to keep a 45 degree angle between your pen and the surface. Also when mixing your pen medium and the paint together( which I always advise using dry paint to mix instead of a paint that is premixed for painting) , mix it to the consistency ink so it drips off you pallet knife in several drops. That is loose enough to run through your pen nib. Hope this helps you. Let me know. Thanks for your comment.
My grandmother taught China Painting. She used Shirl’s Pen Paint & some of Donazel’s Pen Paint. Have you ever used them or do you have an idea how could find some to order? Your work is beautiful. Thank you.
there are some recipes you can mix yourself and i will look them up tomorrow and post them here for you...
you may buy
1. dark tinting oil and mix with dry paint.
2. Kay knapp has a paint over pen oil (www.kayknapp.com/Results1.asp?Category=%25&Keyword=pen+oil ) use by itself.
these you can mix yourself
3. dry paint with a light capaba oil ..add a little lavender,
4. dry paint with fat oil thin with lavender oil
5. dry paint with anise oil
all these recipes mix to an ink consistency.
Hello thank you . Very good .
Hi Joanna, great video, thank you for sharing. Question about firing after scrolled. What temperature do you refire to? Is it food safe? Have you tried to scrolls on bisqued ware and then put on clear glaze? Also about oil to mix, will lineed oil work?
All the glazed porcelain ware is fired at between 1300-1600 degrees. depending on the colors you are using, so the black or dark green scroll work is fired to about 1400-1500. These that we use in this porcelain painting demo are all "over glaze " paints intended to paint, of course, over glazed surfaces so that they sink into the glazes when fired to become permanent part of the surface. we do have painters that work in bisque ware and use these same paints on bisque, but do not think they glaze afterwards due to the firing temperature of the glazes. mostly high fire glazes ...right....then it would fire out this paint....as far as oils, it has to be oils that will not flame up in the kiln, "not flammable "...we mix with mineral oil and turp. then let dry.....hope this helps. Joanna
thanks Joanna. One last question, the colors could use mason stain powder, correct?
i do not know what mason stain powder is, so i can not reply to that....
it is encapsulated stains. So I guess you are using other products. What is the powder pigment you mixed with oil?
here are some places that sells the paints. www.dallaschina.com ,www.marylandchina.com/china-painting-supplies/paints.html........
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Wow thank you
great video what is the name of the pen that u use to draw the lines brian o sullivan in ireland
The pen point is just a very fine quill pen that you can order from Maryland China or rynnchina.com online. I have used all kinds but the finer points are best. the holder that holds the point can be ordered also.
Looks fancy enough for me! 😉
So Lovely!!
thanks
I am curious Joanna, how did you learn to do this? Your work is beautiful! This is something I have always wanted to learn.
Ruth, I have taken instructions in porcelain painting (china Painting) and am a teacher myself. I do not know where you live, but it would be my pleasurer to find you a teacher, you will love it.....
Joanna Burch Hi Joanna, Thank you for your kind reply. I live near Grand Rapids MI. I have never seen anything like this advertised as far as classes go. I know there has to be someone in my area who could teach me. :) I wish we lived closer so you could teach me.
Carol Flegel
Didn't realize I was signed in with my mom's name. The last comment was from me, not her. :)
Carol Flegel Carol, I have a list of teachers in Michigan if you would like to call one to see who is near you. I do not know how to attach a list here, but you may contact me on my website and I can send it to you from there. www.joannaburch.com
Joanna Burch Thank you! I will check into this. :)
You use acrylic paint???
this is a over glaze powder that you can put onto glazed surfaces, then fire in the kiln. the paint then heats up with the glaze and sinks down to become part of the glaze. it is then permanent and will not wash of or scratch off. thanks for your question....
it is an overglaze paint and fire into the glaze
beautiful
"I don't do very fancy scroll works" *shows border with a million lines* ; Great work though!
very good
thanks
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not a very informative video. Type of pigment plus oil used? Firing time plus type of kiln used? The pen seems to be a mapping pen?
+cameraTV1 Thanks for your comment. It does help me in future videos. As I said it was my first, and it was meant to let everyone know that technique was available. the pigment is an over glaze paint used in painting ceramics and porcelain item. it comes in a powder form and mixes with all types of oil. the pen oil can be a variety of oils, dark tenting oil, turpentine, and some places sell already mixed just for pen work. you may use any type of kiln as long as it goes to a 1500 degrees. I have Paragon brand. the pen point is a very fine "zebra" brand. if you have any other questions, please let me know. Joanna
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stunning!
if someone could reply with a link to buy the complete pen she is using, that would be appreciated. i mean the tip and the handle part..... im in south africa and no one sells them here.....
+Megan Thwaites you may order those pens and pen points from online co.'s - here are a couple www.Marylandchina.com and www.dallaschina.com thanks for viewing....