Thank you for a great video. All the steps are nicely, explained, and easy to understand. I have a question regarding installation of this pump when I already have a water softener. Water softener is installed at the point if entry to house (I have one hose which is before water softener to plant waters). Would it still be all right to install this pump on the water heater or I need to install check wall just after the soft water softener ?
@@BryanHansen if I don’t have a check valve after water softener, won’t the back flow from the pump to water softener cause any problems (especially during regeneration of water softener)?
No. The check valve for the temp you install under the furthest sink (part of the kit). The circulation pressure is very very low and creates a loop at the tank NOT the entire house system. (The loop is just in the hot water line). I have a water softener And you’ll be fine.
After installation of the Watts Hot Water Recirculating Pump,I started using it right away. As long as the pump is running all is fine, but when the pump shuts off I have pipe bumping at the faucet where the bypass valve is installed, when running water in the kitchen. I installed an arrester on the Hot water side at the by pass valve, and still have bumping when running water at the kitchen with the pump off, I turn on the pump and it stops. Should it take an arrester on the cold water too, to stop the bumping?
Hi, the pump circulates through the crossover valve. What if for some reason, the crossover valve being blocked, will the system be over pressured? I don’t see anyone install a hammer arrestor or a relief valve. Thank you!
Glad i came across your video as i am about to purchase the Watts hot water recirculating pump - but the plumber i called tells me that the recirculating pump will not or can not work with the newer hot water heater tasks that have built-in heat trap. How can i tell if my water heater tank has a built-in heat trap? The plumber will charge $90 just for a trip fee to determine whether my water heater tank has a heat trap, and if it does, he can't install it and i would still have to pay a $90 trip fee.
Your plumber just wants to deter you from the DIY, He wants to make money. He’s not interested in the long term professional relationship. Time for a new Plumber.
That is not a thermostat that you are installing under the sink. It’s a valve that lets the hot water get pumped into the cold water line. The problem with having the pump run constantly is you won’t get cold water because hot water is continuously being pushed into the cold water line. Now you have the opposite problem where you have to turn on the cold water and wait for all the hot water to run down the drain until it gets cold. I have this exact same pump set on a timer to run 30 minutes before we usually shower.
Is there anything that can be done to help with not having so much hot water come back out of the cold line when you want to use cold water? This is the main reason my wife hates this thing.
@@BryanHansen The way I understand it this works by the principal of thermal expansion...when cold, the path between the hot and cold side is open. As the valve body heats up, the pathway closes. You may have to purge a small volume of heated water from the cold side when you open the tap, but entire cold trunk shouldn't be hot. My question is, does the pump shut off when the sensor valve closes? The only way this is possible is if there is a pressure sensor within the pump itself that detects an increase in pressure upstream (resulting from the closed sensor valve) that tells the pump to turn off. Otherwise the pump will deadhead if it is running and sensor valve is closed and there are not hot taps running. Deadhead is bad for pumps, and until someone can definitively tell me that the pump is smart enough to turn itself off so as not to deadhead, I won't be installing one of these at my house. I need one though. I've written an email to Watts to see what they say.
@@jakemouser2214 everything I have seen and heard is that it is deadheading. I don't know if it has a pressure bypass or something else in the pump, but I can't imagine it is that smart. I will say that this has been installed for 2.5 years now and not a seconds problem. In fact, I installed this on purpose on a sink that kept freezing in my garage and it has been great. There are settings on the pump that you can choose to not have it running during certain hours and only keep that cycle going during a few hours of the day. Long story short though, I will be very surprised if they say it is not dead heading.
I hope you can answer this. I know this video is older. My pump works fine - but at the sink where I installed the faucet, it sounds like water is running all the time. It’s not leaking anywhere that I can tell. Should it be making that sound?
This video is only a few weeks old, so not sure what you mean there, but one thought I had is if your cold water come out hot for 10 seconds, I would say your valve at the sink is bad.
Thank you for a great video. All the steps are nicely, explained, and easy to understand.
I have a question regarding installation of this pump when I already have a water softener. Water softener is installed at the point if entry to house (I have one hose which is before water softener to plant waters).
Would it still be all right to install this pump on the water heater or I need to install check wall just after the soft water softener ?
Same installation. Right at the water heater.
@@BryanHansen if I don’t have a check valve after water softener, won’t the back flow from the pump to water softener cause any problems (especially during regeneration of water softener)?
No. The check valve for the temp you install under the furthest sink (part of the kit). The circulation pressure is very very low and creates a loop at the tank NOT the entire house system. (The loop is just in the hot water line). I have a water softener And you’ll be fine.
After installation of the Watts Hot Water Recirculating Pump,I started using it right away. As long as the pump is running all is fine, but when the pump shuts off I have pipe bumping at the faucet where the bypass valve is installed, when running water in the kitchen. I installed an arrester on the Hot water side at the by pass valve, and still have bumping when running water at the kitchen with the pump off, I turn on the pump and it stops. Should it take an arrester on the cold water too, to stop the bumping?
Do you have a pressure tank on your line?
Did you use the heat trap installed in the anode rod with this recirculating pump?
Are you asking if I installed this inline with the anode rod?
So when your bypass valve closes and your pump is still pumping what happens ?? The water has no where to go and your pump is on trying to pump..
It does keep trying to pump, but it’s designed to do so. There is the timer option that it will only try and do it during certain hours.
Hi, the pump circulates through the crossover valve. What if for some reason, the crossover valve being blocked, will the system be over pressured? I don’t see anyone install a hammer arrestor or a relief valve. Thank you!
It’s very low pressure so no, it wouldn’t cause a problem
After installing this does it increase the water pressure in yours system?
No, it doesn’t. If you have a pressure reducer on your house, make sure that that hasn’t gone faulty.
Glad i came across your video as i am about to purchase the Watts hot water recirculating pump - but the plumber i called tells me that the recirculating pump will not or can not work with the newer hot water heater tasks that have built-in heat trap. How can i tell if my water heater tank has a built-in heat trap? The plumber will charge $90 just for a trip fee to determine whether my water heater tank has a heat trap, and if it does, he can't install it and i would still have to pay a $90 trip fee.
The way these work, a heat trap wouldn’t matter. Water still flows in the same orientation that it would with or without the heat trap.
@@BryanHansen Great! Thanks for the info - i will get a different plumber.
Your plumber just wants to deter you from the DIY, He wants to make money. He’s not interested in the long term professional relationship. Time for a new Plumber.
That is not a thermostat that you are installing under the sink. It’s a valve that lets the hot water get pumped into the cold water line. The problem with having the pump run constantly is you won’t get cold water because hot water is continuously being pushed into the cold water line. Now you have the opposite problem where you have to turn on the cold water and wait for all the hot water to run down the drain until it gets cold. I have this exact same pump set on a timer to run 30 minutes before we usually shower.
It most definitely is a sensor valve. It senses when it needs to allow hot water to push back through.
Is there anything that can be done to help with not having so much hot water come back out of the cold line when you want to use cold water? This is the main reason my wife hates this thing.
@@BryanHansen The way I understand it this works by the principal of thermal expansion...when cold, the path between the hot and cold side is open. As the valve body heats up, the pathway closes. You may have to purge a small volume of heated water from the cold side when you open the tap, but entire cold trunk shouldn't be hot. My question is, does the pump shut off when the sensor valve closes? The only way this is possible is if there is a pressure sensor within the pump itself that detects an increase in pressure upstream (resulting from the closed sensor valve) that tells the pump to turn off. Otherwise the pump will deadhead if it is running and sensor valve is closed and there are not hot taps running. Deadhead is bad for pumps, and until someone can definitively tell me that the pump is smart enough to turn itself off so as not to deadhead, I won't be installing one of these at my house. I need one though. I've written an email to Watts to see what they say.
@@jakemouser2214 everything I have seen and heard is that it is deadheading. I don't know if it has a pressure bypass or something else in the pump, but I can't imagine it is that smart. I will say that this has been installed for 2.5 years now and not a seconds problem. In fact, I installed this on purpose on a sink that kept freezing in my garage and it has been great. There are settings on the pump that you can choose to not have it running during certain hours and only keep that cycle going during a few hours of the day. Long story short though, I will be very surprised if they say it is not dead heading.
Ever hear of heat trace?
I have
@@BryanHansen ok then.
I hope you can answer this. I know this video is older. My pump works fine - but at the sink where I installed the faucet, it sounds like water is running all the time. It’s not leaking anywhere that I can tell. Should it be making that sound?
This video is only a few weeks old, so not sure what you mean there, but one thought I had is if your cold water come out hot for 10 seconds, I would say your valve at the sink is bad.
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