@@Star_Joker that Easter egg was mentioned in no way home there was a white house attacked line n early part of no way home and they mentioned skull and that same line
I like the idea but it was poorly executed. But the show does reveal what happened to fury after smffh My marvel timeline: 1/16/25 update (All content up to date up to the release of Thunderbolts*) -The infinity saga is arranged by looper and the following sagas are all arranged by me. -All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. -Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself). -I added the defenders, fox-verse, agent Carter and misc content to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps. -The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America •[@-Agent Carter S:1] •[@-Agent Carter S:2] 8. Agent Carter (*) 9. Avengers •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:1] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1] •[DS@-Daredevil S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:1] •[%-Cloak and dagger S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:1] •[DS@-The Defenders] •[DS@-The Punisher S:1] •[A@-AOS S1:E2-5] •[A@-AOS S1:E7] •[A@-AOS S1:E10-16] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier •[A@-AOS S1:E17-22] 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1] 13. Iron man 3 14. All hail the king (*) •[%@-Howard the duck] 15. Guardians of the galaxy •[A@-AOS S2:E1-19] 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S2:E20-22] •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S3:E1-19] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S3:E20-22] •[@-Inhumans] •[%-Ghostrider] •[%-Ghostrider: Spirit of Vengeance] •[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-22] •[%-Helstrom] 19. Black panther •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2] •[DS@-Luke Cage S:2] •[DS@-Iron Fist S:2] •[DS@-Daredevil S:3] •[DS@-The Punisher S:2] •[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3] 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange •[%-Runaways] •[A@-AOS S:5 E:1-11] 23. Thor: ragnarok •[A@-AOS S:5 E:12-22] 24. Infinity war •[A@-AOS S:6 E:1-13] 25. Ant man & the wasp •[A@-AOS S:7 E:1-13] 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38.Daredevil: Born again (€) 39.Wakanda forever 40. Secret invasion 41. Moon knight 42. Werewolf by night 43. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 44. Loki S:1 45. What if S:1 46. Quantumania 47. Loki S:2 48. What if S:2 •[@-YFNH Spider-Man (€)] •[$%-Madame web] 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home •[$%-Morbius] 53. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 54. Across the spider verse ($) 55. Venom 3 ($) •[$%-Kraven] 56. Ms. Marvel 57. The marvels •[@-X-men ‘96] 58. X-men ‘97 •[%-Fox X-men saga (release date order)] •[%-The New mutants] •[%-Legion] •[%-The Gifted] 59. Deadpool 60. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Dolph Lundgrens Punisher] •[%-Lionsgate Punisher] •[%-Punisher:Warzone] •[%-Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 61. Wolverine and Deadpool 62. Agatha all along 63. Eternals 64. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 65. Thunderbolts(€) 66. What if S:3 -I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. Unreleased content as of 1/16/25: 1.Thunderbolts(€) 2.Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Fantastic 4 4Avengers: Doomsday 5.Avengers: Secret wars 6.Daredevil: born again(€) 7.Ironheart 8.YFNH Spider-Man(€) 9.Marvel zombies 10.eyes of wakanda 11.Xmen97 S:2 12.Wonder man 13.Spider-man Noir 14.Dr. Strange 3 15.Spider-man 4 16.Young Avengers/Champions? 17.Nova? 18.The Midnight sons? 19.Blade? €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). •I am also predicting “What if…” S:3 will take place after X-men ‘97 due to the appearance of the watcher. If this is not the case, I will move it to its correct space in the timeline. (Edit: moved “what if” to new slot due to the appearance of the eternals, Agatha harkness, and characters that have made appearances, up to the release of season 3). •YFNH Spider-man is an alternate timeline but still based on Tom Hardy’s Spider-Man so I placed it here, because it adds to the spider-man portion of the multiverse saga; even though it’s not considered canon. If there are mentions of other multiverse events, I will move it to its correct slot and correct its classification. •I placed DD:BA here because of the events of Echo. The gold helmet also shows up and that was the one he wore in she hulk. I will move the show to its correct slot after the conclusion of this season. @-stand-alone sagas/episodes that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. •You don’t have to watch the fox movies, or punisher flicks-but it adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. •I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. •Leigion, the gifted, and the new mutants, accompany the fox X-men saga (They have nothing to do with the Deadpool movies or mentioned anywhere alse on the MCU timeline). •The Ghost rider movies also contribute to the origin of Reyes’ Ghostrider in AOS S:4. •Runaways was added because of the Dr. Strange references and mentions the Loa from cloak and dagger. •Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse (post what if…S:2). •Madame web, Kraven, and Morbius can all suck a fat one. You don’t have to watch them but they add to a dark time in the multiverse saga. •Howard the duck was added as requested by utvFalseGod. Its also is the first marvel movie made, and introduces HTD to the mcu, in the GOTG post credit scene. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline. $-Sonyverse, aka trash (Venom and the spiderverse flicks are cool, but the rest suck). Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! HAIL HYDRA!!!
I have been waiting for Amor Wars for a while now too because War Machine is my favorite Marvel hero and considering the fact that I really enjoyed the Solo War Machine Comics where it was just War Machine without Iron Man but after I was seeing what they actually done to Rhory ever since Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame then I really don't see how this is going to actually make sense to do right now
@@tophfb Some of these kids can't tell spit from shine. They are upset if fan service isn't provided all the time for their favorite character. This is an opportunity for them to whine.
I still believe that Rhodey was swapped after Endgame. If they somehow still canonized Secret Invasion, then I think this would be a way to work around that. But, if Rhodey mentions the swap in Amor Wars, then that would be a better option and I really hope we get to see the movie in the future.
Here's how you fix Secret Invasion. You replay the last scene with Fury going back to the space station and immediately you cut to Fury in a hospital bed and is starting to wake up. Camera pans to both Coulson and Quake. Coulson says "Get Secretary Rhodes, he's awake". Next scene is a debrief scene where Coulson and Quake explain that Fury was incapacitated by an alien virus given to him by a rogue Skrull. Fury says he had the worst nightmare and rather not talk about it. Rhodey says "We need you back in field. Hill and Talos are waiting for you. Coulson, Johnson, keep me informed on the Skrulls' next moves" Show was a fever dream, you incorporate the Agents of Shield the way they were supposed to and do Secret Invasion RIGHT this time.
It's a dream, is a huge cliche, and it may get by on this site, which is desperate/mad friendly to the MCU, but it'll be torn to shreds and laughed at everywhere else. Critics be like: _Wake me when MCU is over._ LOL. I think it's better to ignore Secret Invasion. If everyone hates it and few have seen it on Disney + - why acknowledge it?
Disney/Marvel should hire you as a writer! Secret Invasion, the comics, was a big big story with everybody and their dog. The MCU tv show was a severe let-down.
@@chillabrew_glycolinstallbecause when he was wearing a hospital gown in Secret Invasion they connect it with the time we last saw him in a hospital gown (Civil War). By saying he was in a hospital for something else later gives them options for saying when he was switched with a Skrull. Maybe one day he went in for a routine colonoscopy and a woke up a year later in Russia being freed from Skull captivity.
@@chillabrew_glycolinstall How. This fans think their dumbazz excuses actually will play well to audiences, and they can't envision the actual resultant eye rolls and laughter. I mean they thought we'd buy Kang being stuck in the Quantum Realm and beaten up by ants. lol.
100% Rhodey could've had countless visits to the hospital to check on his health and legs. Any one of those times he would be wearing a gown, super easy to fix
Yes, please. They should establish that Rhodey was captured and replaced by a Skrull either at the beginning of Secret Invasion or right after Endgame. I have a feeling the director was just making up a story when asked when Rhodey was replaced by a Skrull.
Rhodie being revealed as a skrull is similar to how secret invasion was in the comics but since the mcu doesn’t have enough appearances with its characters they shouldn’t have done it.
If they use armor wars after secret wars they could say that they are using stark tech to make sentinels and Rhodey learns about it and tries to stop it
@ Yeah. I am thinking he stops the main villain of the movie, probably an underling of Bolivar Trask, from getting the tech, but then at the end they reveal that this was just a small part of a larger plot.
It's crazy that despite your feelings on the current MCU stories, you can usually find fans that would defend any project...except for Secret Invasion. Secret Invasion is like universally seen as a bad show lol
I really didn't have a problem with Rhodey being a skull since Civil War. I thought it made the show more dark with the fact that an alien impersonated Rhodey through some of the darkest parts of the MCU. I love for them to keep that as part of the timeline.
I don't know about deleting it. I think they should continue with that question they left with Rhody at the end. How did it happen? How long? How does he gain the ability to walk again? I need to know all that! Favorite Hero: Batman
And to think Rhodey/War Machine has been my favorite MCU Marvel hero ever since Iron Man 2 but for what they actually did to him ever since civil war I really hate them for that.
It wasn't, watch the entire video. He says multiple times that it wasn't stated in the show. The director said it. But all good dude, makes sense why you won't remember, we all deleted that show from our brains 2 seconds later 😂😂
It’s weird to think that somewhere out there, people are re-watching Secret Invasion and loving it. I haven’t watched it a second time through, it’s about the only Marvel project I’ve done that with.
Rhodey didnt get snapped in Infinity War. He survived it and helped the other Avengers retrieve the Stones from the past in Endgame. But yeah, the fact that it was Skrull Rhodey the whole time really upset me.
For years I've been waiting for the Armor War Series cuz Rhodey/War Wachine husband my favorite Marvel Hero from the MCU and I really enjoyed the solo War Machine Comics where it was just War Machine alone without Iron-Man put on sing what the MCU have actually done to Rhodey ever since Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame and Invasion I don't even know where they might even start off at from a fresh start on bringing Rhodey/War Machine in Armor Wars.
The roar of the Chitauri Leviathan's engines filled Rhodey's ears, a jarring contrast to the sterile silence of the Skrull holding cell he'd been trapped in for what felt like an eternity. He'd been snatched months before the snap, replaced by a Skrull duplicate who had seamlessly integrated into the Avengers. Rhodey had raged, pleaded, and eventually succumbed to a numbing despair as he watched events unfold through the eyes of his imposter. He saw the dusting of half the universe, including, he assumed with a bitter pang, his Skrull captor. Then, with a lurch that sent him sprawling, the comms crackled back to life. He was no longer a prisoner in stasis, but hurtling towards Earth in the midst of the final battle against Thanos. Hulk's snap had resurrected his Skrull jailer, who, disoriented and following pre-programmed instructions, had brought him back to the fight. Chaos reigned. As Iron Man soared through the air, Thor summoned lightning, and Captain America rallied the troops, Rhodey stumbled out of the Skrull vessel, his mind reeling. He had to warn them! But before he could utter a word, strong arms seized him. His duplicate, also resurrected by Hulk's snap, stood before him, flanked by other Skrulls. They recognized the real Rhodey instantly. A quick, efficient takedown, and he was dragged away, his cries of protest lost in the din of battle. He saw Tony, his best friend, sacrifice himself to save the universe. A surge of grief and helplessness washed over him as he was dragged back into the shadows. He was returned to the Skrull base, his memories a dangerous liability. They put him back in stasis, a silent, unseen witness to the victory he'd been denied a part in. He remained their captive, a ghost in his own life, until long after the dust settled, until the events of the Secret Invasion unfolded, and the world learned the chilling truth about the Skrull infiltration. Only then, amidst the chaos and betrayal, was Rhodey finally discovered and freed, his story a chilling reminder of the hidden cost of the war against Thanos.
Marvel's overall issue is trying to connect everything in a major way. What happens in Seattle doesn't always connect to what's happening in New York. Heck, what happens in Brooklyn doesn't always connect in a major way to what's going on in the Bronx.
Yeah I wish Secret Invasion could’ve been a saga instead. Marvel should listen to the fans of what they want or else they’ll be making some bad decisions.
They never said when he was replaced by a Skrull on screen, so they can say the switch happened at any point. What the director said wasn't canon. That is like saying any deleted scene is canon. It isn't. But they can say anything, including that the entire Secret Wars series took place in the multiverse and not on 616. That would be a cop out, but they could do that.
I already refuse to acknowledge what that director said and just have it in my mind that he was taken after Endgame so this would just confirm it for me
In my mind, Rhodes has been replaced as a skrull after Avengers: Endgame. It just makes a lot of sense. Why would a skrull cry for Iron Man? He never even knew him. Or that he's been replaced after Falcon and the Winter Soldier. And I'm glad Armor Wars is still happening. Just hope it'll still happen though. Just in case. Love the MCU 3000.
Couldn't they just say Secret Invasion takes place somewhere in the multiverse? So that way they can retcon it and they can pretend it never happened and fix all the problems
@@AVR0709 Yeah, that's not gonna happen. I mean, I do want to see Tony Stark return as Artificial Intelligence but I get the feeling the writers will screw up because they don't care about mistakes.
@ Well that's the catch. If they want to have someone like RDJ, they have to get good writers. They know how bad it can be, if they get RDJ for a film and then that film fails. It would be disastrous. So that gives them the challenge to make the best script possible or scrap the concept. But it may get too repetitive seeing RDJ back again and again though.
Rhodey would have had multiple operations on his back between Civil War and Secret Invasion. At the end of Civil War he was having trouble walking with an exoskeleton but in Secret Invasion he is walking with no problem and without anyone thinking it was odd. He could have been taken from the hospital during an operation just before Secret Invasion. Problem solved.
I think that the Sentinels should be created by Stark technology being used for nefarious purposes. And that can lead to an adapted version of armor wars.
to be honest, there are two MCU films that should have been done NOVA and Armor Wars. I understand the point of making OG Avengers the focal point of these movies but when you go with certain ideas that will definitely lead to other characters in the future you cant just sweep it away like its nothing. Take time and tell the stories appropriately. That was the DCUs downfall. They wanted to keep up with the MCU instead of taking their time, and a lot of their movies were either rushed or didn't make sense to tie in with the others.
NOVA is another version of Starlord, Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer, Mz Marvel - it won't work. Comic books failed the same way. Too many diluted characters who are nothing but 'powerz', with 13 fans each who can't understand why their "Black Adam and Blue Beatle, Morbuis" is not as big as "Superman"
@summertyme5748 ok i understand wat you are saying, but if that was the case them being concerned about heroes with similar or elite power scales we have a few of the characters you just named currently in movies so what's the difference?
Armor Wars is still work even though Rhodey was a Skrull. Following the secret invasion event, Jame Rhodey return to his duties as War Machine after he realized that his absence during Skrull kidnapped,all Tony Stark technology fall to the wrong hand. Armor Wars should be a film connect with Iron Heart, And Vision Quest and The End of Armor Wars set up The West Coast Avengers.
i like the retcon idea, that way it makes you assume it's been since civil war, and then the following retcon reveal makes the first part function as a mislead like from a TV show, and the MCU is very much episodical
What they did with Secret Invasion was a travesty of one of the best universe-wide events ever at Marvel Comics. SI should have been it's own entire saga, not the Multiverse crap. The tension building up over years of movies as some characters get a notion something is wrong at the core. All they had to do was something similar to the comics and it would have worked.
Retcon? How? Even if we ignore what the director said Rhodey was literally found still wearing a hospital gown and he couldn't walk. I want to have hope but I honestly can't see them fixing this in a way I'll accept.
Having him taken right after the funeral when his guard was down, would be the best option I could think of. But I don't see it working or fitting into the MCU.
Not just Rhodey, but Everett Ross as well with his appearance in Wakanda Forever. Best just to write Secret Invasion off as some weird multiverse situation that has nothing to do with the main MCU universe. Maybe that version of Nick Fury was the anchor being that left and Paradox clipped that branch
why they don't just explain that rhodey wearing this medical clothes because he went to check his legs after events of endgame than he was abducted by the skrulls
My head cannon has always been that rhodey was taken during Falcon and the winter soldier and replaced as far as thevstory going foward i would imagine they will confirm this with quick dialog in Rhodys next appearance which i am asuming will be doomsday. Putting the armor wars on hold means they still have a story although i think that the story may be heavily involving the skrulls especially after the soft reboot
They should have waited with Secret Invasion and started with Captain Marvel after the events of End Game to plant the seeds and Captain Marvel 2 would have been perfect to unravel the story and connect it to Secret Invasion as a movie but have Captain Marvel be the lead. In my opinion i feel like it was a big miss opportunity or at least wait after the Doom's Day and Secret Wars event.
I never liked Don Cheadle as War Machine. But I do feel like it's icky if he's been askrull since civil wars because they really haven't brought them full circle.
Hey Warren! here have been new updates that Captain America 4's budget was way lesser than than $350M estimate from before, and that it's now only $180M. Are you gonna make a video about this?
The show runner said it, and it was implied "you've been away for a long time". His legs didn't have the prosthetics yet either. Do not try to make sense of the shixshow that is Secret Invasion. This is known as throwing good money after bad. When you are in a hole - 1st thing to do is stop digging.
@summertyme5748 his legs did have prosthetics in endgame plus unless Kevin says it's then is ain't law. Plus when Thanos attached and they where trapped he couldn't use his legs. Only thing people really looking at is the gown his was wearing but ask yourself. You go through a whole battle where a building falls on you, you're not going to the hospital to get checked out afterwards? I like to think he was changed out after going to the hospital after endgame.
If Rhodey never knew about Tony's ultimate sacrifice in Endgame, he would be totally heartbroken. With a retcon of him being a Skrull after, that would be better for his character, and his storyline.
I always believed that rhodey was replaced after endgame, and will continue to believe this until anything officially comes out which says otherwise. They should have done an avengers secret invasion movie, and should have built up to that in phase 4, that way it could have been the spectacle and have the stakes it should have done. That way we could have had a 3rd act where the captured avengers (who were replaced by skrulls) are saved/released in time for a final battle, which would have set up the new avengers team and tied up the skull arc.
Don't care what happens as long as the Punisher gets his hands on the War Machine armor. So if there's an armor wars and with Rhodes is by himself, i'd like to see Frank taking over the fight if he gets injured. I would like to see Nick Fury giving War Machine with the story just like in the comics. A group of SHIELD security agents equipped with IronMan armors going rogue and Nick Fury recruits Frank to take care of his rogue armored SHIELD agents.
If armor wars is happening it should take place before secret wars because i don't think rhodey will survive the soft reboot as he has been there since iron man 1 so i don't think he's surviving the soft reboot
The weirdest part is they didn't have roadie and Infinity Stones really barely in Ending Game. Kevin Fiege and have someone else to be CEO or to step back and Bob Iger needs to put somebody else over all these movies and the series other than Kevin Fiege rid of the Russo brothers.
I will never accept that Rhodey's been a skrull since Civil War
There was a line was mentioned the skull attacked the white house in no way home
No one will. That's the dumbest thing a director has ever thought of!
@@Star_Joker that Easter egg was mentioned in no way home there was a white house attacked line n early part of no way home and they mentioned skull and that same line
I like the idea but it was poorly executed. But the show does reveal what happened to fury after smffh
My marvel timeline: 1/16/25 update (All content up to date up to the release of Thunderbolts*)
-The infinity saga is arranged by looper and the following sagas are all arranged by me.
-All numbered (1,2,3,etc.) content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order.
-Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan (added by myself).
-I added the defenders, fox-verse, agent Carter and misc content to accompany the main timeline and fill in the gaps.
-The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list.
--infinity saga--
1. Iron man
2.iron man 2
3.Incredible Hulk
4. The consultant (*marvel one shot)
5. Funny thing happened (*)
6. Thor
7. Capt. America
•[@-Agent Carter S:1]
•[@-Agent Carter S:2]
8. Agent Carter (*)
9. Avengers
•[A@-AOS S1:E6]
10. Item 47 (*)
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:1]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:1]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:1]
•[%-Cloak and dagger S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:1]
•[DS@-The Defenders]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:1]
•[A@-AOS S1:E2-5]
•[A@-AOS S1:E7]
•[A@-AOS S1:E10-16]
11. Capt. America & winter soldier
•[A@-AOS S1:E17-22]
12. Thor: dark world
•[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8]
•[A@-AOS S1:E1]
13. Iron man 3
14. All hail the king (*)
•[%@-Howard the duck]
15. Guardians of the galaxy
•[A@-AOS S2:E1-19]
16. Avengers: age of ultron
•[A@-AOS S2:E20-22]
•[A@-AOS S1:E9]
17. Ant man
•[A@-AOS S3:E1-19]
18. Capt. America: civil war
•[A@-AOS S3:E20-22]
•[@-Inhumans]
•[%-Ghostrider]
•[%-Ghostrider: Spirit of Vengeance]
•[A@-AOS S:4 E:1-22]
•[%-Helstrom]
19. Black panther
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:2]
•[DS@-Luke Cage S:2]
•[DS@-Iron Fist S:2]
•[DS@-Daredevil S:3]
•[DS@-The Punisher S:2]
•[DS@-Jessica Jones S:3]
20. Spider man: homecoming
21. Guardians of the galaxy 2
22. Dr. Strange
•[%-Runaways]
•[A@-AOS S:5 E:1-11]
23. Thor: ragnarok
•[A@-AOS S:5 E:12-22]
24. Infinity war
•[A@-AOS S:6 E:1-13]
25. Ant man & the wasp
•[A@-AOS S:7 E:1-13]
26. Capt. Marvel
27. Endgame
---after tony saga---
28. Spider man: far from home
29. Thor: love and thunder
30. Falcon and the winter soldier
31. Black widow
32. Hawkeye
33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special
34. Guardians of the galaxy 3
35. Echo
36. Shang-chi
37. She hulk
38.Daredevil: Born again (€)
39.Wakanda forever
40. Secret invasion
41. Moon knight
42. Werewolf by night
43. Wandavision
--multiverse saga--
44. Loki S:1
45. What if S:1
46. Quantumania
47. Loki S:2
48. What if S:2
•[@-YFNH Spider-Man (€)]
•[$%-Madame web]
49. Venom ($)
50. Into the spider verse ($)
51. Venom 2 ($)
•[%-Spider man 1-3]
•[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2]
52. Spider man: no way home
•[$%-Morbius]
53. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness
54. Across the spider verse ($)
55. Venom 3 ($)
•[$%-Kraven]
56. Ms. Marvel
57. The marvels
•[@-X-men ‘96]
58. X-men ‘97
•[%-Fox X-men saga (release date order)]
•[%-The New mutants]
•[%-Legion]
•[%-The Gifted]
59. Deadpool
60. Deadpool 2
•[%-Fox Daredevil]
•[%-Elektra]
•[%-Dolph Lundgrens Punisher]
•[%-Lionsgate Punisher]
•[%-Punisher:Warzone]
•[%-Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)]
•[%-Rise of the silver surfer]
•[%-Blade Trilogy]
61. Wolverine and Deadpool
62. Agatha all along
63. Eternals
64. Capt. America: brave new world(€)
65. Thunderbolts(€)
66. What if S:3
-I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline.
Unreleased content as of 1/16/25:
1.Thunderbolts(€)
2.Capt. America: brave new world(€)
3.Fantastic 4
4Avengers: Doomsday
5.Avengers: Secret wars
6.Daredevil: born again(€)
7.Ironheart
8.YFNH Spider-Man(€)
9.Marvel zombies
10.eyes of wakanda
11.Xmen97 S:2
12.Wonder man
13.Spider-man Noir
14.Dr. Strange 3
15.Spider-man 4
16.Young Avengers/Champions?
17.Nova?
18.The Midnight sons?
19.Blade?
€-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine).
•I am also predicting “What if…” S:3 will take place after X-men ‘97 due to the appearance of the watcher. If this is not the case, I will move it to its correct space in the timeline. (Edit: moved “what if” to new slot due to the appearance of the eternals, Agatha harkness, and characters that have made appearances, up to the release of season 3).
•YFNH Spider-man is an alternate timeline but still based on Tom Hardy’s Spider-Man so I placed it here, because it adds to the spider-man portion of the multiverse saga; even though it’s not considered canon. If there are mentions of other multiverse events, I will move it to its correct slot and correct its classification.
•I placed DD:BA here because of the events of Echo. The gold helmet also shows up and that was the one he wore in she hulk. I will move the show to its correct slot after the conclusion of this season.
@-stand-alone sagas/episodes that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline.
%-included for the hell of it.
•You don’t have to watch the fox movies, or punisher flicks-but it adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos.
•I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty.
•Leigion, the gifted, and the new mutants, accompany the fox X-men saga (They have nothing to do with the Deadpool movies or mentioned anywhere alse on the MCU timeline).
•The Ghost rider movies also contribute to the origin of Reyes’ Ghostrider in AOS S:4.
•Runaways was added because of the Dr. Strange references and mentions the Loa from cloak and dagger.
•Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse (post what if…S:2).
•Madame web, Kraven, and Morbius can all suck a fat one. You don’t have to watch them but they add to a dark time in the multiverse saga.
•Howard the duck was added as requested by utvFalseGod. Its also is the first marvel movie made, and introduces HTD to the mcu, in the GOTG post credit scene.
A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
DS-Defenders saga episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline.
$-Sonyverse, aka trash (Venom and the spiderverse flicks are cool, but the rest suck).
Let me know what you think and enjoy the list!
HAIL HYDRA!!!
It’s better this way
I wiped Secret Invasion from my mind as soon as it ended. What an awful waste of time and money.
It was unwatchable for me. Only got bits and pieces 30 seconds or so at a time due to tendency to projectile vomit while watching.
HELL YEAH! SUPER EXCITED TO SEE MORE WAR MACHINE. Don Cheadle is amazing actor. CAN'T WAIT FOR ARMOR WARS
I have been waiting for Amor Wars for a while now too because War Machine is my favorite Marvel hero and considering the fact that I really enjoyed the Solo War Machine Comics where it was just War Machine without Iron Man but after I was seeing what they actually done to Rhory ever since Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame then I really don't see how this is going to actually make sense to do right now
I think they should de-canonize the entire show in general
Other than the deaths of a few major characters and the war machine revelation, we need more super skrull and less mention of secret invasion.
Pretty sure the imagineers at dipshit didney aren't making mib technology a reality.
If they ain’t gonna de canonize the disrespectful Civil War or Ms Marvel then they ain’t gonna do that for this
@@Zeus.theOlympian803disrespectful civil war?
@@tophfb Some of these kids can't tell spit from shine. They are upset if fan service isn't provided all the time for their favorite character. This is an opportunity for them to whine.
I’d be happy to forget Secret Invasion. It should’ve been a storyline for a Captain Marvel movie.
Would have been perfect for that.
Instead of that confusing mess they made.
Having Ms Marvel in it alone made CM2 inferior from the start.
An avengers movie would’ve been better since it would focus on earth more but she could be the lead.
@@AV-bz2zvshe was one of the best parts of that movie.
@@AV-bz2zv Ms. Marvel was the only good part of it wth?
Man! Yeah they should've removed The Marvels and set up this. They could have had them all and make it happen.
I still believe that Rhodey was swapped after Endgame. If they somehow still canonized Secret Invasion, then I think this would be a way to work around that. But, if Rhodey mentions the swap in Amor Wars, then that would be a better option and I really hope we get to see the movie in the future.
Rhodey talks to Sam, in Falcon and the Winter Soldier, about some leg procedure he went through. I think that's when he got swapped!
@@AVR0709 My thoughts as well
Here's how you fix Secret Invasion. You replay the last scene with Fury going back to the space station and immediately you cut to Fury in a hospital bed and is starting to wake up. Camera pans to both Coulson and Quake. Coulson says "Get Secretary Rhodes, he's awake". Next scene is a debrief scene where Coulson and Quake explain that Fury was incapacitated by an alien virus given to him by a rogue Skrull. Fury says he had the worst nightmare and rather not talk about it. Rhodey says "We need you back in field. Hill and Talos are waiting for you. Coulson, Johnson, keep me informed on the Skrulls' next moves" Show was a fever dream, you incorporate the Agents of Shield the way they were supposed to and do Secret Invasion RIGHT this time.
Wow. That's a good story.
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❤❤❤❤❤absolute fire bro
It's a dream, is a huge cliche, and it may get by on this site, which is desperate/mad friendly to the MCU, but it'll be torn to shreds and laughed at everywhere else.
Critics be like: _Wake me when MCU is over._ LOL.
I think it's better to ignore Secret Invasion.
If everyone hates it and few have seen it on Disney + - why acknowledge it?
Disney/Marvel should hire you as a writer! Secret Invasion, the comics, was a big big story with everybody and their dog. The MCU tv show was a severe let-down.
A throwaway line about having needed an appendectomy or knee repair after the End Game battle could fix it up easily and immediately w little effort
How?
@@chillabrew_glycolinstallbecause when he was wearing a hospital gown in Secret Invasion they connect it with the time we last saw him in a hospital gown (Civil War). By saying he was in a hospital for something else later gives them options for saying when he was switched with a Skrull.
Maybe one day he went in for a routine colonoscopy and a woke up a year later in Russia being freed from Skull captivity.
@@chillabrew_glycolinstall How.
This fans think their dumbazz excuses actually will play well to audiences, and they can't envision the actual resultant eye rolls and laughter.
I mean they thought we'd buy Kang being stuck in the Quantum Realm and beaten up by ants. lol.
I still want to see it. I would love to have Talos and Hill back but I at least want more of G'Iah
100% Rhodey could've had countless visits to the hospital to check on his health and legs. Any one of those times he would be wearing a gown, super easy to fix
Yes, please. They should establish that Rhodey was captured and replaced by a Skrull either at the beginning of Secret Invasion or right after Endgame. I have a feeling the director was just making up a story when asked when Rhodey was replaced by a Skrull.
Rhodie being revealed as a skrull is similar to how secret invasion was in the comics but since the mcu doesn’t have enough appearances with its characters they shouldn’t have done it.
I wonder how Rhodey would react when Dr. Doom has Tony's face.
Thats if they even show his face since dr doom mostly has a mask on most of the time but hey i can be wrong
@@Mr_Sinatra95 He'll obviously show it
@@Mr_Sinatra95you don’t bring back RDJ not to show his face🤷🏽♂️
I really hope marvel learnt from mistake and make another secret invasion but with avengers
They can retcon Maria Hill's death with an LMD for all I care. Secret Invasion was a complete mess.
Yes, just ignore it. Few people saw it and EVERYONE HATES IT.
They can just say that whole show took place in a different universe. Earth 789 lol
If they use armor wars after secret wars they could say that they are using stark tech to make sentinels and Rhodey learns about it and tries to stop it
Epic idea!
@@AVR0709 i agree and rhodey aslo learns it'll kill the mutants another reason why he has to stop it
@ Yeah. I am thinking he stops the main villain of the movie, probably an underling of Bolivar Trask, from getting the tech, but then at the end they reveal that this was just a small part of a larger plot.
@@AVR0709 amror wars in phase 7 works
That would be pretty fire, you think they'd still have a Boliver Trask involved in any way to still keep some comic tie-in?
It's crazy that despite your feelings on the current MCU stories, you can usually find fans that would defend any project...except for Secret Invasion. Secret Invasion is like universally seen as a bad show lol
Kind of awesome in that respect.
What about the Marvels? I heard people consider that trash too
@@cinomaticsithShut up
War machine need to be in brave new world
I really didn't have a problem with Rhodey being a skull since Civil War. I thought it made the show more dark with the fact that an alien impersonated Rhodey through some of the darkest parts of the MCU. I love for them to keep that as part of the timeline.
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Happy to hear they will make armor wars. I was looking forward to it
I don't know about deleting it. I think they should continue with that question they left with Rhody at the end. How did it happen? How long? How does he gain the ability to walk again? I need to know all that!
Favorite Hero: Batman
And to think Rhodey/War Machine has been my favorite MCU Marvel hero ever since Iron Man 2 but for what they actually did to him ever since civil war I really hate them for that.
0:55 was this confirmed in show?? I don’t remember that being said in secret invasion
It wasn't, watch the entire video. He says multiple times that it wasn't stated in the show. The director said it.
But all good dude, makes sense why you won't remember, we all deleted that show from our brains 2 seconds later 😂😂
Rhodey being a skrull should never have been a plot point used.
Ever since they announced Armor Wars I was so excited to hear more and to finally see it. I hope they don’t abandon it.
Woof woof
It’s weird to think that somewhere out there, people are re-watching Secret Invasion and loving it. I haven’t watched it a second time through, it’s about the only Marvel project I’ve done that with.
I like how the MCU’s main way to fix something is to simply forget it or erase it.
Rhodey didnt get snapped in Infinity War. He survived it and helped the other Avengers retrieve the Stones from the past in Endgame. But yeah, the fact that it was Skrull Rhodey the whole time really upset me.
Secret Invasion was just crazy!
And here they're saying that Sony are making mistakes with their movies like if the MCU haven't been making any mistakes with their projects too.
BRAVE NEW WORLD
For years I've been waiting for the Armor War Series cuz Rhodey/War Wachine husband my favorite Marvel Hero from the MCU and I really enjoyed the solo War Machine Comics where it was just War Machine alone without Iron-Man put on sing what the MCU have actually done to Rhodey ever since Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame and Invasion I don't even know where they might even start off at from a fresh start on bringing Rhodey/War Machine in Armor Wars.
Just casually forgetting that Rhody played a major roll in and game and didn’t die in Infinity War. Makes it even more upsetting honestly.
Finally after secret wars and a armor wars
The roar of the Chitauri Leviathan's engines filled Rhodey's ears, a jarring contrast to the sterile silence of the Skrull holding cell he'd been trapped in for what felt like an eternity. He'd been snatched months before the snap, replaced by a Skrull duplicate who had seamlessly integrated into the Avengers. Rhodey had raged, pleaded, and eventually succumbed to a numbing despair as he watched events unfold through the eyes of his imposter. He saw the dusting of half the universe, including, he assumed with a bitter pang, his Skrull captor.
Then, with a lurch that sent him sprawling, the comms crackled back to life. He was no longer a prisoner in stasis, but hurtling towards Earth in the midst of the final battle against Thanos. Hulk's snap had resurrected his Skrull jailer, who, disoriented and following pre-programmed instructions, had brought him back to the fight.
Chaos reigned. As Iron Man soared through the air, Thor summoned lightning, and Captain America rallied the troops, Rhodey stumbled out of the Skrull vessel, his mind reeling. He had to warn them! But before he could utter a word, strong arms seized him. His duplicate, also resurrected by Hulk's snap, stood before him, flanked by other Skrulls. They recognized the real Rhodey instantly. A quick, efficient takedown, and he was dragged away, his cries of protest lost in the din of battle.
He saw Tony, his best friend, sacrifice himself to save the universe. A surge of grief and helplessness washed over him as he was dragged back into the shadows. He was returned to the Skrull base, his memories a dangerous liability. They put him back in stasis, a silent, unseen witness to the victory he'd been denied a part in.
He remained their captive, a ghost in his own life, until long after the dust settled, until the events of the Secret Invasion unfolded, and the world learned the chilling truth about the Skrull infiltration. Only then, amidst the chaos and betrayal, was Rhodey finally discovered and freed, his story a chilling reminder of the hidden cost of the war against Thanos.
Yes to Armor Wars, please. It was great in the comics and can work EASILY for Rhodey.
Secret Invasion wass a mess the way they treat Rhodey was ridiculous...im not surprise they try to get rid secret invasion plot..
Thought they said Armor Wars was cancelled. It should have been a series awhile back to introduce new characters with Rhodey looking for new Avengers.
Plot twist: it was actually the director of secret invasion who was replaced by a skrull
Marvel's overall issue is trying to connect everything in a major way. What happens in Seattle doesn't always connect to what's happening in New York. Heck, what happens in Brooklyn doesn't always connect in a major way to what's going on in the Bronx.
Any show that says, "Hey Secret Invasion is trash, let's delete it.' will get +1000 aura points just during announcement! 🤣
This would make Secret Invasion JUST a little better. Though it does make me wonder when did Rodey REALLY get taken by the Skrulls?
Series or movie, I'm down for Civil War. Happy to hear it's just on old while they reorient and that it's not cancelled.
Next avengers will be after searct wars will be Avengers Searct Invasion and armor wars sets it up. Or say it was his dream Rodeys
Yes
Yeah I wish Secret Invasion could’ve been a saga instead. Marvel should listen to the fans of what they want or else they’ll be making some bad decisions.
I think that Rhodey was a SKRULL since Falcon and the winter solider
They should've done Secret Invasion like the do Mission Impossible..
Secret invasion is the only mcu project fully deserving of a retcon.
They never said when he was replaced by a Skrull on screen, so they can say the switch happened at any point. What the director said wasn't canon. That is like saying any deleted scene is canon. It isn't. But they can say anything, including that the entire Secret Wars series took place in the multiverse and not on 616. That would be a cop out, but they could do that.
I already refuse to acknowledge what that director said and just have it in my mind that he was taken after Endgame so this would just confirm it for me
In my mind, Rhodes has been replaced as a skrull after Avengers: Endgame. It just makes a lot of sense. Why would a skrull cry for Iron Man? He never even knew him. Or that he's been replaced after Falcon and the Winter Soldier. And I'm glad Armor Wars is still happening. Just hope it'll still happen though. Just in case. Love the MCU 3000.
Couldn't they just say Secret Invasion takes place somewhere in the multiverse? So that way they can retcon it and they can pretend it never happened and fix all the problems
War Machine could resurrect Tony Stark, since he has the time machine to revive him
How?
Or finally introduce AI Tony Stark in the MCU.
@@AVR0709 Yeah, that's not gonna happen. I mean, I do want to see Tony Stark return as Artificial Intelligence but I get the feeling the writers will screw up because they don't care about mistakes.
@ Well that's the catch. If they want to have someone like RDJ, they have to get good writers. They know how bad it can be, if they get RDJ for a film and then that film fails. It would be disastrous. So that gives them the challenge to make the best script possible or scrap the concept. But it may get too repetitive seeing RDJ back again and again though.
Rhodey would have had multiple operations on his back between Civil War and Secret Invasion. At the end of Civil War he was having trouble walking with an exoskeleton but in Secret Invasion he is walking with no problem and without anyone thinking it was odd. He could have been taken from the hospital during an operation just before Secret Invasion. Problem solved.
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I think that the Sentinels should be created by Stark technology being used for nefarious purposes. And that can lead to an adapted version of armor wars.
to be honest, there are two MCU films that should have been done NOVA and Armor Wars. I understand the point of making OG Avengers the focal point of these movies but when you go with certain ideas that will definitely lead to other characters in the future you cant just sweep it away like its nothing. Take time and tell the stories appropriately. That was the DCUs downfall. They wanted to keep up with the MCU instead of taking their time, and a lot of their movies were either rushed or didn't make sense to tie in with the others.
NOVA is another version of Starlord, Captain Marvel, Silver Surfer, Mz Marvel - it won't work.
Comic books failed the same way. Too many diluted characters who are nothing but 'powerz', with 13 fans each who can't understand why their "Black Adam and Blue Beatle, Morbuis" is not as big as "Superman"
@summertyme5748 ok i understand wat you are saying, but if that was the case them being concerned about heroes with similar or elite power scales we have a few of the characters you just named currently in movies so what's the difference?
Armor Wars is still work even though Rhodey was a Skrull. Following the secret invasion event, Jame Rhodey return to his duties as War Machine after he realized that his absence during Skrull kidnapped,all Tony Stark technology fall to the wrong hand. Armor Wars should be a film connect with Iron Heart, And Vision Quest and The End of Armor Wars set up The West Coast Avengers.
i like the retcon idea, that way it makes you assume it's been since civil war, and then the following retcon reveal makes the first part function as a mislead like from a TV show, and the MCU is very much episodical
What they did with Secret Invasion was a travesty of one of the best universe-wide events ever at Marvel Comics. SI should have been it's own entire saga, not the Multiverse crap. The tension building up over years of movies as some characters get a notion something is wrong at the core. All they had to do was something similar to the comics and it would have worked.
Retcon? How? Even if we ignore what the director said Rhodey was literally found still wearing a hospital gown and he couldn't walk. I want to have hope but I honestly can't see them fixing this in a way I'll accept.
Having him taken right after the funeral when his guard was down, would be the best option I could think of. But I don't see it working or fitting into the MCU.
I think it’s hard to forget. That big reveal was a bit disappointing
If we’re retconning the events of Secret Invasion, then let’s include the death of Maria Hill and bring her back.
Secret Invasion was so disappointing. I'm glad if it was completely forgotten.
I think they should do it like it never happened
Not just Rhodey, but Everett Ross as well with his appearance in Wakanda Forever. Best just to write Secret Invasion off as some weird multiverse situation that has nothing to do with the main MCU universe. Maybe that version of Nick Fury was the anchor being that left and Paradox clipped that branch
I was so hype for secret invasion, until it came out. If it can be cannon, there is no reason agents of shield shouldn't be cannon.
Don cheadle isn't getting any younger
why they don't just explain that rhodey wearing this medical clothes because he went to check his legs after events of endgame than he was abducted by the skrulls
I like it
Armor Wars sentinels creation
I'm sad that they squandered the skull story. It could've been big
Better they put all "did'nt kind of worked" into some alternate universe and just start a good plot.
Erasing Secret Invasion is probably for the best, just say cropped out or something after Loki reshaped the Multiverse at the end of his show
Yea they messed up big with secret invasion.. they should have just made Maria Hill a scroll when she died
My head cannon has always been that rhodey was taken during Falcon and the winter soldier and replaced as far as thevstory going foward i would imagine they will confirm this with quick dialog in Rhodys next appearance which i am asuming will be doomsday. Putting the armor wars on hold means they still have a story although i think that the story may be heavily involving the skrulls especially after the soft reboot
They should have waited with Secret Invasion and started with Captain Marvel after the events of End Game to plant the seeds and Captain Marvel 2 would have been perfect to unravel the story and connect it to Secret Invasion as a movie but have Captain Marvel be the lead. In my opinion i feel like it was a big miss opportunity or at least wait after the Doom's Day and Secret Wars event.
Please de-canonised Secret Invasion and bring back Maria Hill and Talos 🙏🙏🙏
Slap a "what if..." sticker on the title. chop it up to its the multiverse saga and call it a day. Everyone happy.
Maybe I’m in the minority… but what upset me the most about Secret Wars was the unceremonious death of Maria Hill!!! 😢
I never liked Don Cheadle as War Machine. But I do feel like it's icky if he's been askrull since civil wars because they really haven't brought them full circle.
Now, I understand why Secret Invasion didn't work....
Hey Warren! here have been new updates that Captain America 4's budget was way lesser than than $350M estimate from before, and that it's now only $180M. Are you gonna make a video about this?
They never said rhodey was replaced since civil war that was speculation.
The show runner said it, and it was implied "you've been away for a long time".
His legs didn't have the prosthetics yet either.
Do not try to make sense of the shixshow that is Secret Invasion.
This is known as throwing good money after bad.
When you are in a hole - 1st thing to do is stop digging.
@summertyme5748 his legs did have prosthetics in endgame plus unless Kevin says it's then is ain't law. Plus when Thanos attached and they where trapped he couldn't use his legs. Only thing people really looking at is the gown his was wearing but ask yourself. You go through a whole battle where a building falls on you, you're not going to the hospital to get checked out afterwards? I like to think he was changed out after going to the hospital after endgame.
Rhodey wasn’t swapped until after End Game
Yes please ERAAASE the living hell out of Secret Invasion.
I know it hurts Feige's pride, but so much of phase 4 and 5 did immense damage.
If Rhodey never knew about Tony's ultimate sacrifice in Endgame, he would be totally heartbroken. With a retcon of him being a Skrull after, that would be better for his character, and his storyline.
I think they should say after endgame I was really disappointed with secret invasion
Im usually not a fan of retconning things but we need to pretend Secret Invasion never happened.
I always believed that rhodey was replaced after endgame, and will continue to believe this until anything officially comes out which says otherwise. They should have done an avengers secret invasion movie, and should have built up to that in phase 4, that way it could have been the spectacle and have the stakes it should have done. That way we could have had a 3rd act where the captured avengers (who were replaced by skrulls) are saved/released in time for a final battle, which would have set up the new avengers team and tied up the skull arc.
I know I'm not an expert or a writter but why marvel let the secret invasion mess happened?
They can just make it all a big dream.
I would love for them to completely erase secret invasion from the MC. Uprobably with.
Shehok and deadpool waterboarding Kevin into changing. History.
Don't care what happens as long as the Punisher gets his hands on the War Machine armor. So if there's an armor wars and with Rhodes is by himself, i'd like to see Frank taking over the fight if he gets injured. I would like to see Nick Fury giving War Machine with the story just like in the comics. A group of SHIELD security agents equipped with IronMan armors going rogue and Nick Fury recruits Frank to take care of his rogue armored SHIELD agents.
That would be better to say he was taken after avengers end game
If armor wars is happening it should take place before secret wars because i don't think rhodey will survive the soft reboot as he has been there since iron man 1 so i don't think he's surviving the soft reboot
Secret Invasion was in a different universe!
The weirdest part is they didn't have roadie and Infinity Stones really barely in Ending Game. Kevin Fiege and have someone else to be CEO or to step back and Bob Iger needs to put somebody else over all these movies and the series other than Kevin Fiege rid of the Russo brothers.