MOST of the Police in the U.S. Are RACIST | Portland
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- In this conversation near Portland State University, three participants engage the claim, “Most of the police in the U.S. are racist.” Two of the participants stand on the “Agree” line and the third stands on “Disagree.” One of these participants is Peter’s former student.
The discussion takes various turns throughout, but the persistent difficulty is the absence of data and determining precisely how much and what kind of data would be enough to justify one’s confidence. All participants agree that data is the sticking point, which is why Peter is bewildered when one participant says, “Despite not having the evidence that supports it, I’m pretty confident. I would say I’m a 10 [out of 10].”
This conversation was recorded on May 11, 2022 in Portland, Oregon.
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“I’m sure the evidence exists” is the most intellectually lazy argument for calling an entire profession “mostly racist”
A hallmark of the left.
Pseudo-intellectuals. Same ones that think the untested gene therapies are 100% safe and effective.
@@DirdeeD We'll probably see enormous spikes in mortality rates over the next ten years and these same idiots (if they're alive) will scratch their heads and wonder why.
Yeah the orange sweatshirt guy should be on neutral, based on his arguments. He really doesn't know, it's just what he feels based on what he's been told.
@@GoodLifeInSpain I think the whole point of these is that motivated reasoning is not a hallmark of "the left" or "the right", but of humans in general. Being intellectually lazy is non partisan.
This is the best philosophy game in the last 100 years. Thank you Peter.
You’re very welcome. There are a lot of resources available for people who want to learn more. Check out: Street Epistemology
Certainly beats constant bickering and one-upmanship, which can be a real train wreck... Hmm.. so if you had 100 people bickering on a railway track, and 5 people playing this game on a sidetrack with a train hurtling toward the changeover point, would you flip the switch to save the 100 and doom the 5 playing the game, or would you do nothing? 😀
Sunglasses dude is in quite a few of these, and he’s always very insightful. Solid job, sunglasses dude.
Agree
“I don’t have evidence that supports it, but I’m sure there is evidence out there”
Lmao
AND he says the only thing that would change his mind, is real evidence from reliable sources. Yet he doesn’t require that same standard for his current belief that it IS true. I can’t believe he didn’t call that guy out.
That sounds so much like religion: I don't have the evidence that supports it but I'm sure the evidence is out there.
@@jamesbizs did you skip the video? Peter was calling him out for 3 minutes asking him how he can base his confidence with no evidence.
LAZY
Yes ,there is evidence out there like he said
An "evidence guy" with no evidence should have a neutral opinion.... you would think
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The 10 guy says logic, but gave the most illogical answer especially given his overly apparent bias.
Lol so true
that was so painful.
Yeah but my money is on him never do it again.
What a cool process
I think he was being stubborn like he said at the end, not sure I believe he was actually a 10, good convo though!
Keep speaking from a place of privilege.. “good job”.
Like asking a royal born into wealth if financial struggle exists..
an inability to relate; which causes a skewed unrealistic world view.
“Good job” guys👏. It’s called a 400 year head start
The Zero Responder has no idea what is going on.
I’m not even sure he knows where he is. He should not be there.
@@jamesbizs Can't make this stuff up.
I like it when Peter acts slow to respond like he doesn’t know how to respond but he’s just revealing the students have been indoctrinated and do not have good reason for their own beliefs
Kind of like the TV character Colombo. Acting a little slow on the uptake. 😊
I’m not sure it’s entirely acting slow but trying to phrase his response in a neutral manner in response to what the person said.
yes, "the system" thing. these types love to use "systemic" whenever they can. Peter is well aware there's no systemic racism.
Oleanna by David Mamet. Was a great short film looking into our now future in life and education.
@@Apriluser ColUmbo, more like ColDumbo. With free suckered for getting the rhetoric right.
Taking a pause to gather and win the spelling bee.
There's a funny skit where a kid at a spelling bee needs to spell Woman and asks for the definition and nobody has one.
The man with the glasses has great common sense.
I’m with him.
I'll admit I was prejudice towards him at first but he is always speaking facts
“I have my stance and will seek out evidence to support my stance”. Dude forms his opinions before seeing the evidence instead of looking at the evidence and then forming an opinion
Are you ignoring the fact that no matter what you do you’ll never have 100% proof of anything or the latest, most accurate statistics?
It's called Confirmation bias. Driven by human ego, once you see it, you will see it everywhere.
The difference between ideology and actually looking for the thruth.
Do you know who George Floyd is?🤔 What happened to him?
Hmmm🤔 me thinks this miiiiiiiiight serve as EVIDENCE.
🤦🏽♂️
@@theinnerlight8016- Shrut tha thruth thup.. I know the thruth. Lol
Literally the only basis for this belief is "That's all I see in the news, so that must be all that's happening!"
Processing only what's presented directly in front of them, instead of doing the wider research.
There are over 900,000 cops in the US, but they think seeing 7-8 news stories a year somehow proves what they're all like.
And of course they don't see the irony in painting an entire group of people with a broad stroke either.
Personal experience does wonders making a person not care about statistics
Exactly this. On top of this as well, keep in mind that there are 10s of thousands of cops in NOT high population centers who are just people working to keep law and order in their communities.
On top of this as well, one of if not THE MOST impactful thing on this is the leadership that guides the culture in the precincts. If there is an "us against them" mentality in a particular area from the leadership, then that 100% will boil over. If it's not like that, and the leadership does a good job cultivating a workplace that doesn't do that stuff, then it will change dramatically.
There are also hundreds of millions of police/citizen encounters every year. Only about 2000 of those result in the police killing someone, and most of those are justified.
Forming an opinion based on media trends and then assuming the facts are out there is completely backwards to how things should be.
I find curious, this narrative about racist police ignores the many gun related deaths between rural white men and police officers
The guy in the Pink Floyd shirt is so thoughtful and intelligent.
According to the Dunning-Kroger Effect, he is a smart person. He is so smart, that he knows that he doesn't know everything.
The degree of certainty part was real a great addition. Lines within the lines. It showed people their possible blind spots or bias with even more clarity. Having Peter do it as well was amazing, showing people how to think through ideas and question yourself. Helping the guy ask him more, and different questions to continue to poke holes in his own stance from all sides. This has really shown me that continuing to ask more and better questions (evolve the question to more and more) helps us get closer to resolution no matter what it involves in our lives. The question(s) ultimately become more important to finding a solution to the problem
See Daryl Davis for a brilliant application of these techniques. Davis, a black Jazz musician, has hundreds of hoods from KKK members who have surrendered them to him after talking with Davis. Street Epistemology is revealing
@@jshays007 I have seen a Ted talk and some interviews with him. I'll delve a little deeper into his work. Thank you
For the emt guy to say he is a 10 certain without evidence shows he is clearly not "logical" or a "numbers guy." He thinks very highly of himself. Perhaps his arrogance causes his blindspots.
Absolutely. Questioning people’s own ideas and making them think about them. Many people won’t do this on their own.
@@BlanketTruth22 ... By definition, EMT Guy was suffering from a moment of cognitive dissonance ... and he chose to not accept the intervention. Instead, he retreated into the comfort of his unconscious bias ... and doubled down.
You are so needed, especially in Portland. Thanks for continuing to do these.
As someone from Portland... agreed.
I've never been to Portland. Shouldnhe be concerned with Antifa? He does have some stances that I'm sure they wouldn't agree with.
@@leevy6753antifa is TERRIFIED of 1 on 1 conversations. They only work as a mob/hive mind. This platform would destroy their entire Ethos.
The 10 guy started with a conclusion and I bet he’d go looking for evidence to confirm it, not disconfirm.
I hope he can see that.
This was a good one.
The 10 guy is so far gone it's going to take an epiphany for him to realize his cognitive dissonance. He's been completely indoctrinated.
Right, instead of searching "police shootings by race" he searches "black people being hunted by the police".
Good point. Classic example painting the target around the arrow. There are too many uncertainties in dealing with people that there can almost never be a straight up 10, especially without hardcore evidence to formulate the opinion rather than the other way around.
Can’t wait until he’s a doctor making crucial medical diagnoses.
@@brianm8611 I can see it now:
Trust me, I've heard that aneurysms exist and even though I haven't actually examined you, I'm 100% sure you have an aneurysm.
I love the graphics that show where people chose to go at the start - it’s a nice touch that frames the video
Thanks to my team for that!
@@drpeterboghossian Bravo to the team!! Something really cool (if feasible) would be a similar simple graphic that appears whenever somebody moves to a different line. It’s great to see, graphically, where everybody begins… and even better to see where people end up whenever there’s a change in position.
I was not able to ___________ because of the system.
the "i don't have any evidence but i'm 10/10 confident in my position" guy was frustrating because it seemed like he was trying to be reasonable, but then came across looking like a sophist.
“The system.”
Ah…Of course. Of course. The systemic, systems of structural institutions.
🙄
AIU
Well, it does play a role. Example, we know that Nixon administration (this was admitted by former Nixon administration members) focused on making marijuana illegal because it would allow them to criminalize black activist groups that were against Nixon. This put blacks against cops... which would definitely impact both sides' views of the other
No. The answer is no.
These are the educated people that call you stupid online
Not the one with the glasses
we should expect more from the police but let's not forget that they are not the one's who write the laws in the first place. secondly, let's hold society to higher standards as well instead of just demanding that the police hold themselves accountable.
@@dougr8646 😂
Doug's comment was the funniest by far. Why delete it?
I can say it again.... 🤣
For me cops and public office should be held to a higher standard. They should not get special treatment. I always get ignorance of the law is no excuse, Yet some cops dont care about rights and nothing really happens to them.
Well the reason we must hold police ESPECIALLY accountable is because they execute the government’s monopoly on violence.
I love how easily he deals with some of these know-it-all kids. Long live the Boghoss!
He’s 100% confident that he wants to believe.
future doctor btw lmfaooooooooooooo. i feel sorry for his patients already
The confidence question is a great addition!
Says he is evidence based and does research, *stands on strongly agree* with no evidence lol. People have so much cognitive dissonance its insane
Peter idk if this was ur shining moment especially when u talked about crack vs coke.... I mean, whattttt???💀💀
He doesn't know a lot about this kind of stuff yet willing to take a stand and draw a line on the subject?
And I bet he would vote with that same enthusiasm too. Even though he admittedly knows nothing about the subject. Sigh
@@MrS-pe6sd But he knows somewhere out there he can find a source that does agree with him. Cause that's really hard to do for those types of ideologies, yknow.
One of my favorite discussions so far! Such great guys, so much smart input. The 10 guy is hilarious "You gonna give me a donut after this?" Ayooooooo 😂
I'd like to hear why the question automatically means racism towards POC when it can and does pertain to black officers targeting white people also. Or Asian or Latino for that matter.
If you want to see real racism check out the history of any Asian or African country. Racism, tribalism, Casteism, Slavery, religious and gender discrimination is still practiced today on those two continents.
Hey now! So-called Asians are 50% LESS likely to be shot by police compared to so-called white people. We can't let data ruin a good narrative.
Because that is the current narrative and according to it any other kind of racism is simply non existant? :DDD
Good point . Id say because racism in america only means against black people
Statements like this are disingenuous. If I ask you, does racism exist? You will have to say yes… if I then ask you to prove it or say how do you know… how would you be able to prove that? Most instances of racism the person denies it is true, and then how do you even quantify a feeling or know when it is being done? The only thing you can look at is the rate comparisons between each race, and ask why they are so imbalanced.
Peter - it's nice to see you getting more and more dialed on your methods and having these conversations. Special request: I really, really want to see a conversation like this facilitated between specialists who disagree, people that have researched the topic and are known cultural/public/intellectual figures but who are also curious and willing to model what a civil, data-driven, and sincere discussion can look like. It seems to me that this is what the culture is lacking most, role models showing what's possible to resolve issues. This happens occasionally (I think of Bill Maher sitting down with Ben Shapiro) but it's exceedingly rare, and so we have virtually every news outlet, congress, etc, all modeling an abysmal level of reasoning and respect for differences. And of course people mimic what they see their leaders do.. so I imagine a world in which that pattern was disrupted and people could view their role models making different choices other than simply demonizing the Other.
Imagine him getting on an episode of Real Time and doing it live on stage with the panel :O
Good points! I think what the world needs is less feeding of emotional narratives derived from faulty logic and more debates, but debates where people are not allowed to get away with logic fallacies and the like. Anyone who says they are absolutely sure without any evidence should no longer be taken seriously. A moderator who can push for evidence and strike down logical fallacies along the way.. public debates.. well televised and broadcasted on social media could be an important step to avoiding all out civil war on these issues. I'm sure everyone (including myself) could and should have their mind changed, even if a little bit.
It would be a banger of a video and get tons of views! Unfortunately finding these two magical unicorns in academia is the hunt for the Holy Grail.
This was a great video Peter. Great questions and balanced to challenge both sides.
Thank you.
After this series I’ll be trying with “experimental Street Epistemology”. We hope to begin in January!
"The system is broken" 🙄
Status quo shill detected
But, but, systemic systems of structural institutions!! Bigot ,xenophobe, islamophobe, homophobe, transphobe, misogynist, white supremacist, Naazzzziiiiiiii!!!
Literally how it’s become.
@@danbaumann8273 Don't forget the worst one of all "ANTI-SEMITE"
Although judging from your name *you* may have used that one in the past, yourself.
None of us is innocent, and none of us is immune.
We all have our soft spots.
Broo you are bringing the heat with this content. Keep it up!
As an individual who is now of the older generation, I would say that one of the things that frustrates me with all these newer younger generations, is that they refuse to take the time to do their own research. When these racial issues first started occurring in this country (i.e. the rioting, accusations of racial discrimination by the police throughout America etc…) I immediately decided “I” as a “responsible American citizen” should personally investigate and determine the statistical truth of the matter (math does NOT lie).
By surrendering no more that one hour of my personal time, and utilizing the internet, and the “Google” search engine, I was easily and credibly able to determine that what I was witnessing on TH-cam, and on “All” the mainstream media channels was utterly false.
Why can’t all the more recent younger generations do the same? It is “basic” math. Why can’t they also surrender a few minutes, or even a few hours of their own personal time to determine the “facts” of each national issue that occurs, so they can better take a concrete stance on each national issue as they occur? How can they responsibly vote for those candidates that are supposedly championing these national issues if they don’t? Why do they make generic statements about the magical “system“ being broken, based on nothing more than supposition and a gut feeling, versus easily attainable hard-data?
These younger people are NOT idiots, they are merely lazy and easily led. They are willing to remain narrowly focused are their specific educational goals (e.g. becoming a Doctor, Engineer, or some other professional occupation etc…) but will not step outside of their streamlined areas of chosen expertise to better understand the social calamities occurring all around them. I don’t get it.
Please put down your video games, and even your school books, and take a tiny portion of your time to care about the society in which you will one day be forced to live, and participate as a functioning member of this society. Please utilize your brain-power and intellect and review the facts. I’m absolutely certain you’ll find America, this great nation that has nurtured you, to be the most free, the most non-racist, and the most able-nation in the history of humankind. God bless you all, and good luck, because if you don’t step back and view the facts with a non-biased neutral set of eyes you are going to lose it. I sincerely am praying for all of you each and every day.
The guy in the Floyd shirt gives me a little hope for the future of humanity. Well done young man.
I see idiocracy.
He’s a rarity in Portland.
Pink, not George
PLEASE DONT GIVE THIS GUY A LICENSE TO BE A DOCTOR.
What I love about this channel, it supports critical thinking. He challenges both sides and tries to get a reasonable explanation.. doesn't matter if you agree or disagree, he makes you defend your position.
The guy who wants to be a doctor would never be my doctor! I don’t want him guessing my condition…
No way he’ll become one he wants to but i dont he is smart enough tbh
He can read study and take tests. He just can’t think
Thanks Dr Boghossian,
I don't understand what the point of playing this game with idiots and dullards is.
I found this channel a week or so ago after I got the "Trans Women Should Be Legally Treated as Women" video in my feed, and I love the open discourse. It's a breath of fresh air. Thank you, Peter.
Cops definitely enforce many unjust codes and have many problems but calling them all racist is insane. It is a literal propaganda talking point.
Why do you think there are proportionally more black people in prison than any other race? 1 in 3 black men have been arrested in their lifetime.
@@boryf7463 they are committing crimes when they are arrested.
Also; They are almost always arrested by cops of their same race, tried in front of their piers, and overseen by a judge of their race.
Just having the statistic you quote absolutely does not just automatically mean the criminal justice system is racist.
The criminal justice system is absolutely broken, and 100% preys on poor people, and needs immediate reform.
@@oneofthosepeople2101 What are you talking about? They are not mostly arrested by their race, only 13% of cops are black but black people are arrested 2.6X more than white people. You aren’t even looking at the statistics and just making up facts.
@@boryf7463 Are you familiar with the difference between correlation and causation?
Also, how do you explain the fact that there is very little variance in arrest percentages between white and black women?
@@boryf7463 1 in 3 black men committed crimes, that's the reason they were arrested, not because they are black. Without a good competent lawyer they are more likely to go to prison and receive longer sentences....If the glove don't fit, U must acquit...
They all talk about making a decision based on the final statistics but nobody thinks, "what if the black people have higher rates of violent crime?" or even if they are unarmed, "what are the rates of resisting arrest passively or aggressively?"
It was mentioned that there were higher rates of crime. But it was ignored.
This was directly addressed
Thank you thank you thank you.
This is amazing! I now have so much to binge
the smart reasonable and informed guy in sunglasses understands epistemological humility.
He is a rationalist, not a fantasist.
Love what you do Peter.
Peter, absolutely love these and getting people to think more. People are too absorbed with feelings than thoughts.
Watching the answer to the question play out on an unsuspecting participant is great. Seeing is believing.
Thank you for your work on this. People are blinded by public. Sad.
That first responder just said that most of his colleagues are racist and he is too. He then goes on to demonstrate the Dunning Kruger effect (extreme confidence in something he has no knowledge about). Wouldn’t want to see him as my Doctor.
Thanks for the patient style of educating others.
most police have to work in racially segregated inner city neighborhoods, where specific neighborhoods and street corners feel like war zones
Peter, I love this game. Thank you for posting these!!!
Thank you for doing these Peter. I am far too old to be so stupid. I am finally beginning to understand what critical thinking and humble patience are.
I like this approach which could be a very good tool to use in critical thinking exercises for students, and even the general public.
These videos and comments are so thought provoking and helpful for me. Thanks all
One fantastic thing about this is that it shows you how little people actually know about what they think or why they think that. Some people are just completely misinformed which is equally as bad if not worse.
Amazing video as always, Doctor.
Thank you! Delighted you’re learning and viewers are challenging their thinking.
@@drpeterboghossian I can’t get enough of your videos. You embody virtually everything I’ve conceptualized as effective and honest teaching. Even down to some oddly specific mannerisms, coincidentally!😂😂I have yet to even complete freshmen year of high-school, so I appreciate the reminder that academia isn’t all bad.
That was awesome. Nearly perfect example of the Boghonnian game. Love it!
How on earth does someone even answer the question? Do they send out a survey to every US cop?
I use your technique of just asking questions to people who are spouting biased comments in everyday conversations. It’s amazing how quickly people can destroy their own point when simple probing questions are asked, instead of fighting with them.
Fascinating, man.
Peter please pose the Claim : Words can be violence .
Not a problem
Great session, respectful and insightful!
Damn, these are good. Congrats on 100k, sorry for being late.
This is one of my favorites of these games. Great job to everyone!
You know what I would love, is an extended version of this...like a series-long debate show, but it's a different style of debate. You take two people or teams, all of whom are conscientious and have a scholarly mindset (they don't have to be actual scholars). They both start off on different positions on an issue, and over the course of each episode they attempt to explore the issue with data, evidence, critical thinking and genuine framing of each other's position (i.e. no straw man arguments). Between each episode, they actually research the statistics, data and evidence for their supported position and then present those arguments during the episode. Here's the KEY: they won't be evaluated on whether or not they were right or "won" the argument. Instead, they are evaluated entirely on their methods for arriving at their conclusion. Did they site reputable sources? Were their arguments circular? Were the data cherry-picked or misleading. So, for example, someone who actually changes their position a bit by applying honest, critical thinking would score higher than someone who "won" the argument, but with deceptive arguments or dubious sources. Perhaps by the end of the season, both parties will end up on similar positions. I find the current norms of our society, in which there are two non-overlapping versions of reality a bit too bewildering, and would find such a show grounding.
Why don't we just define racism as treating people differently based on the color of their skin (or race). And then if nuance needs to be added then come up with a new term?
Because (stealth) expanding terms serves a goal. Look at the confusion between 'black lives matter' the statement and Black Lives Matter the ORG. This is by design, not to find the truth but to advance the agenda.
It’s crazy how confident he was while saying he didn’t have the evidence to back up his claim
“How confident are you?”
“100% positive”
“What’s your evidence?”
“I don’t have any”
“Then how are you sure?”
“Some evidence probably exists”
“But you have no evidence…”
“I’m still 100% positive”
😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶😶
I just loved the role reversal at the end and the mutual respect.
I wouldn’t perform an epistemological exercise on someone unless I was willing to undergo it myself.
"Yes and No." "Yes and No." Never a straight answer, yet brimming with confidence. 🤥🤥
Found you through a crazy dude on TH-cam named sneako, not sure if he’s a bit character or not. Nevertheless, you have great content and I’m so glad I found your channel.
As someone who works with orthopedic surgeons for a living, the guy whose intention is to be a doc... Man does he fit the mold when he says his confidence is a 10, despite not having evidence. Classic ego of an MD who is *positive* in their diagnosis/opinion/outlook/etc.
Doctor? You mean Insurance Claim Adjustor?
The role reversal was great. He wasn't ready to admit it but I think you got the gears turning in him
At least in this video the conversation remained civil and everyone participated in good faith. There’s still hope
This is a fantastic, real-world example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
20:32 "It seems to me that if you're a 10, you'd be unwilling to move"
I think this is likely a fallacy. To be certain isn't to be unwilling in principle to shift that certainty. I'm certain that 2+2=4 because it seems to be airtight idea, but if I discovered reason to believe that wasn't the case, I'd lower my certainty
The 'system' could be a police precinct covering up racists acts to avoid bad press, avoid law suits, and protect bad cops. Not all systemic problems are based in bad laws.
"The only thing I don't have is solid evidence..." Oh my... :(
Loved the end of the video!
Love the way this man encourages polite discourse!!
That went well! Literally!!
Anyone with that level of confidence without the evidence definitely should be a doctor. The level of arrogance is astounding. He'll fit right in and nobody can do anything about it. He'll be in a position of power where nobody can question him. Irony is beautiful.
Next time someone says a 10, ask them if they would be willing to bet their life and the lives of their entire family on it.
That's not irony. That's coincidence.
That's why I love betting on beliefs. Action speak louder than words.
To the guy in orange, tell me you your position is based on feelings without telling me your position is based on feelings.
You dropped this, Pete. 👑
Haha! I’ll let others pick it up and run with it!
Especially if it's his field- I'd like to see if the data in which he is believing exists.
Former cop here. The problem I have with these questions is those who think most cops are racist are basing their opinions on 1. Contact with a shitty cop. So they generalize based on anger. 2. What other citizens say or media. 3. They’ve never researched what is taught in the academy 4. Never attempted to get know an officer on a personal level or gone on multiple ride ons with multiple agencies to see how they do their job. “But they’ll only send you on a ride along with their best officer” ya, most likely, but they have no control over who that officer will be sent to assist. So you will see the behavior of every cop in that agency.
Good cops hate bad cops. They actually hate bad cops more than anyone else because good cops suffer the consequences of a shitty cops behavior. Good cops are on the receiving end of revenge for a shitty cops behavior. Good cops treat the small percentage of shitty cops as outcasts and wait for an opportunity to catch them in the act. Good cops aren’t perfect, we misread situations, get bad info, and even make a bad decision that unfortunately ends someone’s life and suffer the consequences of said decision. Please, I beg of you, think objectively, think of cops the same way you want them to think of you.
Most cops assume the worst until the citizen gives them reason to think otherwise. Even then there is still no complacency because it can turn deadly anytime. We don’t stop out with someone because of skin color, we stop someone to do what you hired us for. To ask questions and prevent crime. We don’t figure out if someone is an innocent citizen or a wanted rapist/murderer who’s ready to harm again unless we patrol, stop who we see, and ask for ID.
Yellow guy is a perfect example of The Dunning Kruger Effect in display. Says he is confident 10 with no data. But once you have more data and learn more your confident level actually drops 😂
Here is the google definition: The Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias whereby people with low ability, expertise, or experience regarding a certain type of a task or area of knowledge tend to overestimate their ability or knowledge.
Scary thing is he wants to be a doctor lol
that’s not really dunning kruger. that’s when you have a small amount of info and a big amount of confidence. the guy had zero info.
I have wondered if it is possible whether the word "system" may sometimes be being used as a place holder for specific people/ or person so that without naming an individual it avoids a lawsuit?
I wonder if people blaming a system may make people feel they dont need to produce a burden of proof as they cant point to something as intangible as a system?
"System" is used when someone is using confirmation bias to find evidence and is either too lazy to pursue finding said evidence, or their search has lead them to evidence that contradicts their point, or simply doesn't support it.
It is amazing how some people just don't think, don't analyse. Just believe 🤦♂️
Crime is a 'toxic environment'
Evidence guy said he’d move with evidence. When asked what evidence puts you there now? He responds “nothing,” but eventually says hearsay. But he’s so confident he’s a ten? A doctor? Yeeesh
great stuff
I didn't expect this to become a word-a-day vocabulary builder. Now I have that word in my brain. What did it displace?
Basically, the people who agree have no basis for their opinion, and almost seem to argue that they disagree.
Not disambiguating terms like “racism” and “hate speech” makes the question unanswerable, which is the objective of those benefitting from divisiveness…Peter?
I believe the simplest answer is usually the correct one - I don’t understand how it’s not at all a possibility that people of a certain race are simply committing more crimes and that’s the problem. Once we acknowledge that then we can try an address the real problems that may be contributing to that.
That's exactly what it is. Prisons are 95% males but I never hear anyone say that the police are misandrist.
A great candidate for your “simplest answer” is that urban density amplifies crime in poor neighborhoods. If you look at Eastern Europe there are gang and crime riddled neighborhoods in the cities, while those neighborhoods and countries are predominantly racially homogenous. The same is true for most East, SouthEast, and South Asian countries.
If you go to places in America where the local population is mostly poor and white, you’re most likely going to be in a rural region.
It might be as simple as crime is just not as profitable, accessible, possible, or even necessary, in low density regions.
The simplest answer is that crime is a poor issue. Poverty levels can be used to predict crime levels and when you account for income levels the racial disparity in policing all but disappears.
Biology disagrees
@@WinningThisOne all of that makes sense to me and tracks with things I’ve learned about crime over the years. Post a reply if you find the sources!