One fun moment in the beginning was after Will opens the discussion about subjectivity presupposing itself and Guattari's critique of 'neomarxists' (hilarious), Adam quips "For those who haven't read every word ever written by Guattari and Deleuze, let's break that down...." made me chuckle. Y'all are all awesome. Thanks for what you do!
Hearing the point from Guattari, hearing it discussed here and hearing so many more people everywhere turning to followers of fascist demagogues - makes me more and more think that it is the state and bureaucratic forms of governance that form the fertile ground for fascism. Meaning, the liberal corporate state structures, staticized parliamentary politics and indeed also academic intellectualism. All of these systems function more and more self-referential and alienating as time goes on. Eroding people's free flow of exchanging desires and turning it into staticized forms of stage-play, where there are active agents on the stage and then there is the entirely passive and pacified audience where one at a time one may get up on 'the stage' to have a chance to speak. Becoming-rich, becoming-phd, becoming-manager, becoming-politician whatever have you. Where society becomes a stage, a few turn toward actor and many turn toward audience. An audience who's only acting power on the world is by serving as a mirror to gauge one's supposed reaction to the play on the stage. Where desire is off-loaded from those who one is actually close to and has agential, creative power with - towards the play up on the stage where one is passive recipient to. Fascism then is just a more 'participatory' form of stage-play. Where one is called upon to act out the fantasies presented up on the stage and where the actors on the stage can toy with the emotions of the audience in the production of desire towards 'experience'.
The stage analogy goes hand in hand with the illusion that desire is a theater of representation. This is what I meant by discreet coordinates in the discussion: anything outside the grid or the prescribed parameters of performance is subject to discipline.
So appropriate. Only Felix negated fascism..it's caught somewhere between a machinic assemblage and micro fascism . Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain.
One fun moment in the beginning was after Will opens the discussion about subjectivity presupposing itself and Guattari's critique of 'neomarxists' (hilarious), Adam quips "For those who haven't read every word ever written by Guattari and Deleuze, let's break that down...." made me chuckle. Y'all are all awesome. Thanks for what you do!
There's no, like, me, man, and like, no you, man. That's fascism
Whoa
Hearing the point from Guattari, hearing it discussed here and hearing so many more people everywhere turning to followers of fascist demagogues - makes me more and more think that it is the state and bureaucratic forms of governance that form the fertile ground for fascism. Meaning, the liberal corporate state structures, staticized parliamentary politics and indeed also academic intellectualism. All of these systems function more and more self-referential and alienating as time goes on. Eroding people's free flow of exchanging desires and turning it into staticized forms of stage-play, where there are active agents on the stage and then there is the entirely passive and pacified audience where one at a time one may get up on 'the stage' to have a chance to speak. Becoming-rich, becoming-phd, becoming-manager, becoming-politician whatever have you.
Where society becomes a stage, a few turn toward actor and many turn toward audience. An audience who's only acting power on the world is by serving as a mirror to gauge one's supposed reaction to the play on the stage. Where desire is off-loaded from those who one is actually close to and has agential, creative power with - towards the play up on the stage where one is passive recipient to.
Fascism then is just a more 'participatory' form of stage-play. Where one is called upon to act out the fantasies presented up on the stage and where the actors on the stage can toy with the emotions of the audience in the production of desire towards 'experience'.
The stage analogy goes hand in hand with the illusion that desire is a theater of representation. This is what I meant by discreet coordinates in the discussion: anything outside the grid or the prescribed parameters of performance is subject to discipline.
Your comment made me think of that Shakespeare quote "All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women merely players"
You people are incapable of doing an internal critique and don't have a freaking clue what he Fascist world view is even seeking.
Happy Guattari!
Compuder ?
So appropriate. Only Felix negated fascism..it's caught somewhere between a machinic assemblage and micro fascism . Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain. Panic is certain.
This channel is stalking me I literary have a test today in which I will be speaking about this stuff , crazy hamburger
*panic is creation