Damn didn't realize her banner was stacked like that yet. Sweet. Atleast seems way better than the previous Qingyi banner sadly and definitely should be taken into consideration for pulling aswell.
Getting Jane because that's the NEPS character that comes with M6 Seth. Would have gotten Zhu Yan or Qin Yi instead if Seth was on those other banners. Also: "For me and my particular account". A sentence that doesn't come up anywhere near enough in any of the discussions around what to pull or not pull.
Thanks bud. I'm trying to use my account as a representation of when it makes sense vs. when it may not depending on others accounts. I agree it should be phrased that way more often!
@@AverageLuckGamer In my case, I didn't pull for Ellen, lost the 50/50 on Zhu Yan, got Rina and Lycaon as my pulls on the Standard Banner, and my lost 50/50 turned out to be another Lycaon. So even if Seth wasn't so interesting to me, I'd definitely be pulling on this banner too.
This is why I'm pulling on Jane: I want Seth and I want to get him at least to c3. I got Ellen, Zhu Yuan, and their engines so I'm kinda worried I'll lose the 50/50 anyways (I'm kind of hoping for that though, since of the standard banner characters I only have Lycaon and a fire or electric unit would help in shinyu defense)
@@OtakuKeisatsu indeed 🧐 I even pulled on the Qingli banners, not for Qingli but rather for Billy and Korin dupes 😁 I've been trying to prioritize my DPS characters before anything else
Already cleared all the content with Zhu/Ellen including the new Shiyu that dropped today so I am definitely pulling for Jane because anomaly playstyle is the most unique one in ZZZ.
The less you need the less you should pull. Pull only at end of banners with concentrated resources if the pull will be a game changer for your account. The problem with the game is that this way you can't have fun with different characters. Imagine then all the fun you're going to have in the future when you pull nearly all mindscapes and wengines of those future broken characters that will make you one shot that future difficult content.
Ngl for me, Caesar is the one im saving for. First S-rank defender; her buffs and shield mechanic is guaranteed to age well. Jane and Burnice for me can still be substituted by other agents. No one currently and in the near future can do what Caesar will.
Everyone says this cringe shit lol. Then 3 months down the road this Ceasar will be stabbed by there allies and get powercrept. same old story. If ya hate sexy and deny it. thats what you get
@@monkaeyes3417 fr, I've managed to pull qingxi and zhu yuan btb without even saving for them it's really not that gard u have almost a month to get the polychromes 😭
I downloaded the game because of the insane character design and the gameplay comes second for me... Jane is like Top 5 designs I've seen from ZZZ (and I've seen every single teased, leaked and rumored character to show up in the future) she is just so peak it's beyond comprehension like she's a rat in the operation SHE'S A R If we are being gameplay conscious though the character she has the most synergy with Seth is on her banner so it's a no-brainer regardless
ngl people take this WAY too seriously, the game is like VERY VERY possible, even without any limited S characters, the real thing you should do, is pick what you want, skip what you want, and that's it The game is not that hard
Failing harder commissions a couple times doesn't necessarily mean your characters are too weak. And if they are, it's not because you didn't pull limited characters, it's likely because they're underleveled or use bad discs. All of ZZZ can easily be finished and S Ranked with a bit of effort with lvl 55+, decent discs M0 A Rank characters. Once you have M2+ A Ranks and a couple standard S Ranks, it's essentially smooth sailing.
Haven't watched the video yet, but I think I'll invest into the Sons of Calydon. I just got Piper from the Signal Shop and hopefully she has good synergy with Lucy and Caesar.
I got Zhu Yuan; Anby and Nicole fill that team and Nicole is all mindscaped up, Anby can get some now; my second team is GRACE, RINA, and Anton (mono electric). Grace Rina Jane Doe is not only a top tier waifu team, but if the Anomaly core isn't strong enough I could slot Seth in over Rina. I like these characters, have use for all 3 on the limited banner, and I'd rather my second team play with a fun, different Disorder playstyle than a second Stun -> DPS
At the moment I have a dysfunctional Ellen (no second stunner) and a Zhu Yuan that slaps. It's looking like Jane has a lot of team variety and is basically better off without a stunner so to me I feel she fits my account quite well, and Burnice is the one I can't skip. They're pretty likely going to be a menace together. But yea it's real tough cause Caesar looks pretty ridiculous too. I'd need more than average luck to be able to get all 3 on my $5 per month budget...
Caesar seems like an ideal support for my Nekomata, so even though I'm not super into her design I'll probably try my luck with her. If the banner leaks turn out to be accurate and it's Lucy and Soukaku as the 4 stars there's even more incentive to pull. If Burnice turns out to be "that character" material, then I'll probably be stuck waiting on the Jane rerun unfortunately. On the other hand, we'll probably have more info about Lighter and the Section 6 characters by the time she's running so I can delay this decision for a few weeks longer.
I don't particulary love her. But I have Grace M1, Seth comes included, Anby Mx will help too, so it feels like a great value banner. I have Ellen and ZY teams both fully functional, so I'm expecting to cover Phys and Elec team with this move. Plus I like doing it with an Anomaly setup, as it will also help with diversity for when content bonuses favour that kind of dps. It's all about diversifying to be ready. Only fire would be left for me, and having a single element as weak spot makes my account really solid for any future content.
I am going to pull but I don't have that much currency so I will need luck to get Jane before her banner is gone. The way I look at it is if I don't get her I should be close enough to get Caesar for sure when that banner drops. I do want Jane and for sure would build her but I don't "need" Jane since I am not planning a team around her before I actually get her. My motto in these type of games is don't fret over not being able to complete end game content and only roll on powerful characters that interest you rather than ones that are meta but don't interest you. Anyway, good video!
Thanks for another well thought out video! I see a lot of content creators basing “should you pull” off of damage potential and that’s silly when you consider the fact that mihoyo is pretty trustworthy when it comes to balancing their games for all their characters. Choosing based off the options a character gives your account will always be more satisfying in the long run. One thing that I don’t think is super important but still should be mentioned, is that for some players, considering what they play ZZZ on could help them decide. I originally was going to skip Qingyi for Jane, and then accidentally received a lucky Qingyi when I did a single ten pull in a moment of weakness. Im exclusively a mobile player at the moment, and it made me realize that with my jankier controls and more casual playstyle, Qingyi made quality of life doing dailies much better than Jane probably would have. As much as I love Jane’s design and playstyle, it’s more skill dependent and I was struggling a bit with it during the game demo. Maybe it’s just that I suck, but either way, going forward I’m going to try to also think about teams that feel smoother to play on mobile. That being said, I’m going to try to skip Jane for Caesar now, but there’s heavy emphasis on try 😂 in the end fun trumps function for me
@@raiden4mgo yeah I didn’t pull for anyone and I’ve been saving since the game came out. A lot of people are actually doing this since they’re saving for Miyabi.
@@joogled1839 well that’s why I’m getting Jane Doe and Burnice since Miyabi is expected to come in 1.4 which is far enough away that I can still guarantee her.
I do have two teams that can be mixed to get a third one with a different focus, but the teams are Ice and Ether focused. So its hard to get past shiyu defence content especially the time focused ones. Getting Jane and building around her for some assault options would help to build my account but also build it a lot wider than taller
I'm about 30 pulls away from a guarantee and I missed out on Ellen and Zhu. I could get Qingyi but I'm already actively using Anby. I don't know if I'll incorporate Jane in an active team (I like the teams I currently got) but it's hard to justify not doing a pull on her banner and getting her, especially since I like her playstyle and I'm near close to pulling an S. Plus, Seth also seems like he'd be a good addition and it would be a good opportunity to get Anby's Mindscapes while doing pulls to build for the next 50/50 or guarantee.
I love her gameplay and design but, I should skip. I got lucky getting Ellen and Zhu so I don't feel great about getting another "damage dealer" plus Caesar and Burnice have some GYATT- *ahem* great assets and synergies with the rest of my units.
I've got a good Ether and a good Ice team, but i want Jane because i have Grace and by summoning for her i basically get a free disorder team. (Only spent money on the monthly 4.99 pass)
I dont think i have good team for her rn and i also have ellen and zhu. Considering how caesar looks currently i should ski..... you thought i would say that? Who do you think i am?? A filthy cheater? Mine princess' traitor?? There is no universe i would do that and caesar is coming home too no matter what hoyo will throw at me
Don't! Don't! Don't! Don't! Anby in this Banner and You Will Want Her A6 if you like the Character (like I do) [You're still a Free Thinker, just decide at your own pace]
Thanks for the advice. Btw google says that someone who spends $5 a month or more is considered a dolphin, so since I bought an internet-knot membership I'm technically a dolphin now. I feel like these videos are still "for me" tho
I think google might be wrong on this one. Dolphins would spend way more than $5/m. The membership is just 1 step above f2p I think. Nowhere near dolphin
@@hellzofwarYeah Im not sure on this either. I don't spend every month on gacha, but when I do usually 100-150(I save so that I can afford it cus I learned with gacha you get more for your money spending a larger amount at one time, then several smaller transactions more often). So I spend that and then buy the monthly passes. Id say that'd be dolphin like 100-200$ maby?
I've been pretty lucky as a low spend player. I managed to get both Zhu Yuan and Qing Yi, so my first team is completed with Nicole. My secondary is Koleda, Grace and Rina/S11. Koleda is by far my favourite unit so I'd like to build around her, but all three of the next characters look really tempting.
one of the things i dont like about the banners in this game is that they are pushing full team back to back , if i skip Jane i might as well skip burnice and even ceaser , and i feel if i do that i wont enjoy playing the game for like 3 month , im pretty sure i will still be able to S rank all shyiu defense still with elan /zhu teams , but just might not be fun to plan to skip everything for the next 4month
Agreed. It's like they're just lining them up and expecting you to empty out your wallet. At least they aren't also grouping the attributes like that. It would suck to get Electric, Electric, Electric, then Ice, Ice, Ice, etc.
My thoughts exactly. I get that the goal is to entice players to spend money but it's a lot of money to throw away on the chance of possibly getting the character you want. I lost the 50/50 for Qingyi to Rina and essentially did everything I could to pull Qingyi at 8 pulls left my 2nd time around. After doing that I don't think I'd spend more than $15 a month on this game. Saving up polychrome and skipping certain banners seems like the wave
Burnice works best with other anomaly btw, such as Grace and piper On the other hand, Jane works well with Seth (on her banner too) and qingyi Caesar is just gonna be comfort stun/support for your DPS with her utility None of those three are even in the same team 💀
Thanks for this video! I was a little torn since I'm looking to save for Miyabi but this made me make up my mind to wait a little more, will definitely be coming back for when the next characters get released!
I'll have about 320 pulls saved for Jane and her sig. I haven't gotten a good second team going yet, and now I feel like I have a solid plan for building a second team around Jane. If pulls go well, maybe I'll have some leftover for Caesar or Burnice, but I feel pretty good about pulling a good DPS since I don't have Ellen or Zhu Yuan.
You have literally the exact same team build as me. I have a piper Soldier 11 build and it isn't working super well for me, so I think I'm probably going to pull her as well! I would consider pulling Ceasar, but ngl getting Seth as well as Jane? It just pays off so well for my account.
nakfrg did extensive tests that showed Jane's best team was Jane/Seth/Lucy, in case someone wants Jane but has been put off because they don't have Grace.
do not listen to this. nak's "extensive texting" is not reliable. he doesn't keep his buffs up and he uses bangvolver for every single comp. not only is the methodology bad but his piloting isn't great either. if you're running on a budget just use anby.
@@so-toa9758 are you literate? do you have basic reading comprehension to know what "on a budget" means? qingyi is a limited 5*; she is not a budget character, which is what lucy is. anby pairs with seth for electro anomaly and is a stunner which jane benefits from greatly. yes, qingyi is better, but that is not a budget option.
Planning to pull on her too (and maybe also get a her signature) and I was keeping tabs on pre-release gameplay I have seen Jane-Lucy-Seth teams also working so if you're too pressed about building Grace that could also be an option. Personally though, since my Lucy is with my Soldier 11 and since I don't have Piper/Grace/Rina I'm planning to do a scuffed Jane-Nicole-Seth team because I figured it's not really a waste to build Nicole since she's still a pretty good support that I can use in the future once there's an ether dps that interests me. I'm planning to go for Burnice as well so Nicole is just a temporary substitute. Caeser on the other hand, I have no interest personally. Even when the 1.2 characters got announced I was really just interested in Burnice because you know, flamethrowers as weapons are cool as fuck. Don't really care how broken Caeser will be if she doesn't appeal to me both in terms of design and (leaked) gameplay. Anyways really nice video and good luck on the pulls!
Man, this video makes me doubt pulling for Jane again. I have Grace and Rina at M1 (don't ask) so I thought she might do well in a team with them, but what I really want is an electro Attacker that feels a bit more smooth to play and powerful than Anton. The thing is, I might have to wait a long time for that character to release...
yeah i'm in your boat currently, i pulled on ellen's banner with my initial pulls and polychromes and then didn't pull on zhu yuan, so my second team is grace piper rina and i could really do with having jane instead of piper. i also have zerooooo interest in caesar and im sure i'll be able to work up maybe toward guaranteed burnice by then. seth is a huge bonus to pulling jane too, idk if i'll even use him but he grew on me over the story
I have a Zhu Yuan, Anby, Nicole team. And a Ellen, Koleda, Soukaku team. Should/Can i roll for Rat? (Low spend player. Just IK Membership / Battle Pass)
I get your point on checking if You have two teams or not, but I have a point to add - I have Ellen team without Lycaon and fire team with s11 and Koleda. Gladly I got Grace as well from standard banner and initially I wanted Jane to be in 3rd (overkill, I know) team with anomaly focus. But from additional info from cc server tests I only strengthened my will to pull as I saw a hypercarry team build with Seth and Lucy that performs good in all setups. So even I already have two teams that close shiyu 7S (both previous and current) I still will pull her for situations when anomalies will have significant value in shiyu or we get an anomalist stronger then grace (especially with passive buff to disorder) Having Seth on account from his banner is good as well for harem yk 😅
For me it's pretty simple. I love Seth, I'm going for all his mindscapes, so Jane is most likely going to come along the way and it's convenient that they go together in their best team. I also haven't invested into any of the physical DPS so Jane is adding that damage type coverage to my account. I only pulled on Ellen and my second team is a fire Soldier 11 team, already cleared all the content including all S on Shiyu Defense critical node so I'm feeling comfy.
I'm in a similar place oddly enough, I was fine with getting either Qingyi or Jane since I'm short either a second Stunner or DPS right now. I actually really enjoy Piper's gameplay, so hearing Jane actually can build decently with Piper, field time aside, is good news for me!
I really like Jane and I’ve been saving materials for her for weeks. Although I’d argue that disorder teams for Jane right now aren’t really the way to go. Just because the anomaly agents we have also require lots of field time, you spend too much time trying to set up disorder then if you just let Jane do her thing. If Burnice turns out to be an off field anomaly then she’d work perfectly, but besides that, I’d recommend double support for Jane.
Sinceramente si pensaba en saltarme el banner de Jane, pero es que, sin tomar en cuenta su estilo de juego, ella es del tipo de personaje que mas me gustan, del estilo "Onee-san", por lo que creo que sera tirar algo pero tampoco quedarme sin recursos. Aunque una cosa me queda clara, si tiro por Jane, deberé saltarme si o si la 1.2 si quiero asegurar a Miyabi. Felicidades por los 10k que en verdad los mereces por la calidad en la información en tus videos.
I feel like jane and seth will be a good investment just to have anomaly options. I currently don't have Piper or grace so having that anomly option for Jane/Seth is the direction i'm going. Currently have the meta Ellen and Zhu Juan teams but i feel like anomaly content will be a thing soon so having a 3rd team is good.
I agree. I think Seth alone is a good long-term investment, so I would not be surprised if people only pulled on limited enough to get Seth and then stopped, waiting for 1.2 to build a disorder/anomaly team.
I'd really like to get her for future teams. I did that in Star Rail with characters like Topaz, and it actually paid off in the long run. But I think I want Caesar a whole lot more.
I'm reluctantly skipping Jane because I don't really need her at this juncture and would rather get Caesar+Burnice. Hopefully she'll rerun sometime next year
Skipped Ellen. Pulled Zhu Yuan. Got c6 Nicole while doing so. Pulled Qingyi. Pulled Jane at 30 pulls. Yet to lose a 50/50. Apparently I am not an average luck gamer. But I AM going to milk this all the way to a Jane Caesar Burnice before my luck runs out!
I have my own same Zhu Yuan core and right now I have Rina and Corin languishing for a 3rd member and Jane fills that slot better than anything else coming besides maybe Caesar, but I think Jane will work with her better. I can swap Anby around more freely and this is a passive benefit for going for her since I don’t really have a good team for Burnice ATM.
I know this is heresy but I'm pulling Jane cause I wanna replace Zhu Yuan, I liked her at first but her playstyle ended up not being for me at all, Ellen's still been carrying me since day 1. And I was honestly gonna skip 1.1 entirely... until I got a chance to play Jane and she feels so good. Here's hoping I win the 50/50 cause otherwise I can't afford 1.2.
I'm kind of unsure of where to go from here. My account is in a very similar state to yours, with my Team 2 being Grace/Piper/Rina. Jane would be a great replacement for Piper. My issue is that I kind of hate playing Grace. The moment an enemy disrupts my rhythm, I have to switch to playing her while focusing only on the top left corner of the screen to keep track of my meter. I think I'm going to pull until I get either Seth or Jane. My limited banner is only around 30 away from hard pity with the 50/50 already lost, so it's kind of a toss-up who I'll get first. Hopefully Burnice is fun to play, and I'll have enough poly and luck to grab her.
seth, jane, piper ... enough said. I'm NOT supposed to pull her, repeat I won't pull. I think if you got Zhu Yuan you should get Qing Yi. Quin Yi is really dope AND she buffs like crazy. Until I got her I didn't see what was so awesome about Zu Yuan. Also gratz on using conditionals this time ;)
Second team atm is garbage as well. Will be getting Jane + M2 + Engine and both ceasar and burnice… investing vertically in them as well as Zhu & Qing for their reruns as easily my favs… so don’t mind spending & saving
1:16 I know this vid is a bit older now and we have a bunch of more data. But now I can confidently say that she IS busted overall. She makes Shiyu extremely easy, and even building her is easier than most other DPS characters. As she also doesn't need to rely on a stunner in her team she is even more f2p friendly.
I've gotten lucky and basically gotten optimized teams already so I'm thinking about trying Jane out as part of the Cop Squad and making them focus a bit more on anomaly. basically my idea is to have qingyi and Jane build up anomaly before starting a chain attack with qingyi's finishing move and proccing disorder during the chain attacks, then letting Zhu burst corruption and raw DPS during the stun timer.
Unlike you I like my Soldier 11 so I can start thinking about my third team. I think Jane's banner is just stacked. I feel like Seth is going to be a staple in a lot of anomaly teams for a whie. Add Lucy or Rina and you already have a new physical team in one banner. Then you have Anby who everybody likes to have more copies for their Zhu team. I'll probably pull for Caesor too to bolster my S11 team and then start looking for electric and ice teams.
Hey, thanks for the vid! As a ftp player and newbie to gachas overall, I'm really not sure if I should get her, since, similarly to your case, my El/Lyc/Soka team performs well enough, but the only other team I could come up with so far was neko/piper/lucy, and they're kinda falling behind. I'm not sure if I should pull for jane since the only possible team I see for her is seth+piper, and I'm not sure if I'm a fan of such character set (I like Jane, but didn't get to feel Seth well enough, and really am not sure if I like Piper). Really sad I missed out on ju though, only now I begin to realize how much I liked her comparing to other, newer chars :< Update: After checking other comments and thus checking up on Caesar, I might want to wait for her. I think I like her more than jane even just visually, and it seems she should fit in well in my piper/lucy team!!
Been saving since Ellen specifically for Jane, even if she's not the best for the agents I have so far, I've set my poly's for Jane, so Jane I am getting.. and then I will panhandle for quarters to try and get lucky on Caesar and Burnice, lol. Also I love Seth too so Jane's banner is kind of perfect. Got 150 pulls saved and a guaranteed 50/50 on my next banner pull so it should go well. It's not a big deal to clear content slower, it's not going anywhere.
I'm getting Jane because I just like her as a character. I see myself using her for a good long while, even though I don't think I have many good characters that would work well with her. I'm not looking to 100% this game anyway (getting S rank in all missions and endgame modes), so team building isn't as important to me than it could be.
I literally need her cuz i miss on the ellen banner and now i need a second dps even if she is "Off/sub dps" and even if i wouldn't need her I'll still pulling for that bakery
I didn't start playing until halfway through qinqyi banner(missed 50/50 on that one that's how I have Jane now😊), and she functions as a perfect main DPS. You can definitely build her that way.
It’s maddening playing with Jane’s banner sitting there tempting me 😭 But I’m holding off for now in hopes that we’ll receive some inkling(unofficial or official) about a date for Miyabi’s banner.
I just started middle of Aug and pulled for her and her wengine. Won both! Got M1 Seth and M2 Lucy with their BIS wengines too. Starting to like this game. My friend brought me to a ZZZ demo last HoyoFest and actually had fun. Now here I am playing 4 gachas. Damn
Tbh, I’m pulling for Jane precisely because she is so flexible with her team comps. Yes, she does have synergy with Seth, but since she can also work with another Anomaly character, she can be flexible on support characters too. I can slot in Grace and Rina/Anby, Lucy and Piper, etc. I only have one dedicated Attack DPS with Zhu Yuan and she is just as flexible with her teams too, so if I can get someone like Jane to slot in with the characters I have, I can get more value out of her. Also, I really wanna get Burnice too, so Jane would slot in perfectly with her.
My situation is quite similar to yours. I have Ellen and very luckily got Zhu as well, but while I’m able to have a decent team in Zhu, Anby and Nicole, Lycaon hasn’t arrived yet. Whatever I use to make a second team feels kind of suboptimal atm. In attempting to pull Jane I’m essentially prepping a third team in the mean time. Should help me clear a bit more content and offer up some diversity by the time I finally get Lycaon. Plus I’d like to M6 Anby too.
Your account is in the exact same situation that I'm in where I need someone to properly flesh out a second team. We even have all the same characters built, the only difference is that you have a Lucy and I have a Rina. I would have grabbed a lucy from the shop if I'd known she would never appear for me T-T
I have that S11 Piper Lucy on my second team, and Ellen Soukaku Lycaon for my first team. I just completed all of Shiyu defense last rotation and the new one that refreshed today with all S ranks. Jane looks really appealing, however I would like to pull all of Section 6 characters, ao I'm skipping it.
On-field time budgeting is the most challenging part of team building in ZZZ for me today. And I think that's all down to growing-pains of a new game and its overall roster. Even if you were to kraken and pull every single agent, there are still roles missing, making it hard to optimize for every aspect of team building, particularly for on-field time. So my conclusion is, don't sweat it! There's no point in agonizing over the imperfections in a team build due to the lack of, for example, a compatible off-field buffing support agent. I finally convinced myself to be satisfied with "good enough" and I'm a lot happier as a result.
I am curious on what are your next pulling plans and how lucky you got with Jane? I am sitting at 185 pulls left after getting Jane. I have Zhu, Grace and Koleda as my S agents as well. Aesthetically my heart would say Burnice but Caesar seems very useful. At the same time maybe I should wait for Miyabi and Harumasa. Very hard decisions now.
I'm a simple F2P man, I see 2 good looking character in the same banner with a fun gameplay, I pull. More seriously, I didn't pull for any limited character until her because I will only pull for what I find the most fun characters and build a team with. this will be more than enough to clear most of the game and be happy
Im in a position where I have one usable team but a subpar team on the other making me have to pull for Jane Doe if I ever want to see success in Shiyu before Miyabi. (edit: oh wow your account is pretty similar to mine but without Zhu Yuan) THAT being said her physics won me over
Pulling her until I either get her or reach pity. Given the rate I acquire Polys ingame, that would guarantee me Caesar and maybe enough later on for Burnice. While I need a solid S Rank DPS (M0 / no sig Wengine Nekomata sucks and I did not get Ellen) but I think in the long run my account will benefit more from Caesar than from Jane. That also should at least give me an M1 or M2 Seth, which is a nice bonus to build my account horizontally for a while so I can build cool teams in the future when agents drop that are either very cool and / or totally OP ;)
Me personally, I plan on pulling Jane and Seth even though I don't really have a perfect team for them right now, but I also don't plan on pulling for Caesar and I didn't get Zhu, skipped Ellen and skipping Qingyi so I only need 40 pulls to get pity, and should have at least a decent amount of time before needing to potentially pull for Burnice. Currently running Ben, Von Lycon and Rina so Caesar isn't needed for that team, might put her on a team with Seth and Anton, see how that goes. Sorry Caesar, you look cool and all and might be the first Defense S rank, but Ben is S rank in my heart.
I have Ellen and Zhu Yuan, and I don't have any particular plans for building Jane (I don't even know what her kit is exactly), so this feels directly pointed at me but I simply cannot resist my need to pull her
I'm going to be skipping Jane because I don't think i could have the drive to build a team around her like I have for Ellen (Currently Her, Sukaku, and Nicole.) while I could slot Caesar into the Nekomata Team I have in place with Lucy. I am at 45 pity only 25 Tapes because I can't spend money on this game, not because I don't want to I just don't trust myself with a Credit or Debit card. Alos after Caesar I'm planning on Saving for for Zhu Yuan's next banner because I enjoy her a lot but lost my 50/50 so I wanna keep that option open.
Tbh i dont really care if shes not going to be the most powerful character, i love her play style and erm Direction. Meta is cool n all but enjoyment is better
I'm a completely shitty button-mash style player, so the agents kits don't really make much of a difference to me. I don't even understand what anomaly is or does or how to use it. Playing Jane just feels super satisfying, she's got a great design, is a fun character, and I want to play more with her, even if that means I'm not min/maxing (I never am anyway). So I'm absolutely going to try and pull her :D
I would say Jane would be pretty good then. But depends on your polychrome, I have enough to guarantee her which means I could probably get Burnice too. If you’re in a similar boat then go for it (if you like Jane).
I really like Jane and my account is currently pretty scuffed. I can only really run S11 and Anton w/ Grace, but SD is hard. Best is 5S 1A 1B. But I might wait to see if Caesar stays as broken as she is rn. Literally every support rolled into one with a 1k 90s damage boost as long as you don't get hit. Having basically always hit soft pity and lost basically all of my 50/50s in all hoyo games, I might just do a 10 pull and pray.
You kidding. I must have rat. I cannot simply skip rat.
They should have called it the Tom and Jerry banner, lmao
@@OtakuKeisatsu Did Jerry ever um ... made a mess like Jane does though. 😊
@@OtakuKeisatsuExcept the rat is the cat xD
Real
@@TrashTownFrolics did you get rat?
Seth being on Jane's banner just makes this an even better investment, 110 pulls saved all for this
9/4/2024
It took 90 pulls, but Jane is home
Lets go!
I have 100 🥲@@AverageLuckGamer
and anby for my zhu yuan, best banner for me
Damn didn't realize her banner was stacked like that yet. Sweet. Atleast seems way better than the previous Qingyi banner sadly and definitely should be taken into consideration for pulling aswell.
Only 110 ? I have 163 or 164 XDDDDD
I am a simple man. I live for the rat brain rot, and the spin brain rot. She has both. My mind will be smoother and thus better.
more aerodynamic for sliding away from ethereals
basically 10k subs in a few months is insane and 100% deserved man good work
Thanks for the support! All of the support I have had has been mindblowing and I almost can't believe it.
@@AverageLuckGamer you're necessary no matter what. Keep it up.
Your channel is a ZZZ players must watch. Keep em coming dude!
@@AverageLuckGamer I can see you becoming a big ZZZ content creator in the future, your videos are very well-made!
I second this. You’ve pulled a blinder here and it’s great.
Getting Jane because that's the NEPS character that comes with M6 Seth. Would have gotten Zhu Yan or Qin Yi instead if Seth was on those other banners. Also: "For me and my particular account". A sentence that doesn't come up anywhere near enough in any of the discussions around what to pull or not pull.
Thanks bud. I'm trying to use my account as a representation of when it makes sense vs. when it may not depending on others accounts. I agree it should be phrased that way more often!
@@AverageLuckGamer In my case, I didn't pull for Ellen, lost the 50/50 on Zhu Yan, got Rina and Lycaon as my pulls on the Standard Banner, and my lost 50/50 turned out to be another Lycaon. So even if Seth wasn't so interesting to me, I'd definitely be pulling on this banner too.
This is why I'm pulling on Jane: I want Seth and I want to get him at least to c3. I got Ellen, Zhu Yuan, and their engines so I'm kinda worried I'll lose the 50/50 anyways (I'm kind of hoping for that though, since of the standard banner characters I only have Lycaon and a fire or electric unit would help in shinyu defense)
@@zacziggarot I see you are a man of culture as well
@@OtakuKeisatsu indeed 🧐 I even pulled on the Qingli banners, not for Qingli but rather for Billy and Korin dupes 😁
I've been trying to prioritize my DPS characters before anything else
Already cleared all the content with Zhu/Ellen including the new Shiyu that dropped today so I am definitely pulling for Jane because anomaly playstyle is the most unique one in ZZZ.
Yeah I agree it's the most interesting!
I feel similar, but I'm holding out for burnice. I just prefer the sons of calydon as a faction.
The less you need the less you should pull. Pull only at end of banners with concentrated resources if the pull will be a game changer for your account. The problem with the game is that this way you can't have fun with different characters. Imagine then all the fun you're going to have in the future when you pull nearly all mindscapes and wengines of those future broken characters that will make you one shot that future difficult content.
@@BardianAngel eyyy, Burnice let's goooo
I want the virtual idols group especially the squid hair girl😋
Ngl for me, Caesar is the one im saving for. First S-rank defender; her buffs and shield mechanic is guaranteed to age well. Jane and Burnice for me can still be substituted by other agents. No one currently and in the near future can do what Caesar will.
sureeee but burnice and jane both have nice design 💢
@@yahir_mareuxCaesar has better design, personally speaking. Unless if you think using your dick, that is
Everyone says this cringe shit lol. Then 3 months down the road this Ceasar will be stabbed by there allies and get powercrept. same old story. If ya hate sexy and deny it. thats what you get
This is the kinda mindset that stopped me from enjoying many f2p games
@@monkaeyes3417 fr, I've managed to pull qingxi and zhu yuan btb without even saving for them it's really not that gard u have almost a month to get the polychromes 😭
I downloaded the game because of the insane character design and the gameplay comes second for me... Jane is like Top 5 designs I've seen from ZZZ (and I've seen every single teased, leaked and rumored character to show up in the future) she is just so peak it's beyond comprehension like she's a rat in the operation SHE'S A R
If we are being gameplay conscious though the character she has the most synergy with Seth is on her banner so it's a no-brainer regardless
ngl people take this WAY too seriously, the game is like VERY VERY possible, even without any limited S characters, the real thing you should do, is pick what you want, skip what you want, and that's it
The game is not that hard
I thought so until I ran into Shadow Jane in a random Mission and she two shotted my stunner, lok
@@GuiltyKit disputed shiyu as well
Failing harder commissions a couple times doesn't necessarily mean your characters are too weak.
And if they are, it's not because you didn't pull limited characters, it's likely because they're underleveled or use bad discs.
All of ZZZ can easily be finished and S Ranked with a bit of effort with lvl 55+, decent discs M0 A Rank characters. Once you have M2+ A Ranks and a couple standard S Ranks, it's essentially smooth sailing.
"pick what you want, skip what you want" ah yes
It is literally an impossibility for me to skip Jane. She could be trash and I don’t care. 😂
Totally fair!
I'm skipping Jane because I don't really need her
Smart!
Same
Similar to how Qinyi is an upgraded Anby... We kinda can treay Jane as and upgraded Piper actually....
I'm not skipping Jane because I really need her.
Everyone needs a Jane in their life it’s just some people aren’t aware of it yet
This is like the best gacha channel I’ve found tbh, really rationalizes my thought process for pulling
Haven't watched the video yet, but I think I'll invest into the Sons of Calydon. I just got Piper from the Signal Shop and hopefully she has good synergy with Lucy and Caesar.
I would think they will.
I got Zhu Yuan; Anby and Nicole fill that team and Nicole is all mindscaped up, Anby can get some now; my second team is GRACE, RINA, and Anton (mono electric). Grace Rina Jane Doe is not only a top tier waifu team, but if the Anomaly core isn't strong enough I could slot Seth in over Rina. I like these characters, have use for all 3 on the limited banner, and I'd rather my second team play with a fun, different Disorder playstyle than a second Stun -> DPS
Nice, Solid planning.
I might unsubscribe for what you said about my 🐐 Soldier 11😔.
But I will let this one pass
I'm just not able to get the timing down.
Just hit to the beat of Makka Pakka.
For real?
yeah
Look at his ZhuYuan combo at 5:38, must unsubscribe
At the moment I have a dysfunctional Ellen (no second stunner) and a Zhu Yuan that slaps. It's looking like Jane has a lot of team variety and is basically better off without a stunner so to me I feel she fits my account quite well, and Burnice is the one I can't skip. They're pretty likely going to be a menace together. But yea it's real tough cause Caesar looks pretty ridiculous too. I'd need more than average luck to be able to get all 3 on my $5 per month budget...
Yeah, it's a tough call.
Get Lycaon on 300 pulls, problem solved
@@kraken4560 yeah we’ll see in 6 months when I get there LOL
Caesar seems like an ideal support for my Nekomata, so even though I'm not super into her design I'll probably try my luck with her. If the banner leaks turn out to be accurate and it's Lucy and Soukaku as the 4 stars there's even more incentive to pull. If Burnice turns out to be "that character" material, then I'll probably be stuck waiting on the Jane rerun unfortunately. On the other hand, we'll probably have more info about Lighter and the Section 6 characters by the time she's running so I can delay this decision for a few weeks longer.
Congratulations on 10k subs ALG! It's been awesome watching you grow your channel.
I don't particulary love her. But I have Grace M1, Seth comes included, Anby Mx will help too, so it feels like a great value banner.
I have Ellen and ZY teams both fully functional, so I'm expecting to cover Phys and Elec team with this move. Plus I like doing it with an Anomaly setup, as it will also help with diversity for when content bonuses favour that kind of dps. It's all about diversifying to be ready.
Only fire would be left for me, and having a single element as weak spot makes my account really solid for any future content.
I am going to pull but I don't have that much currency so I will need luck to get Jane before her banner is gone. The way I look at it is if I don't get her I should be close enough to get Caesar for sure when that banner drops. I do want Jane and for sure would build her but I don't "need" Jane since I am not planning a team around her before I actually get her.
My motto in these type of games is don't fret over not being able to complete end game content and only roll on powerful characters that interest you rather than ones that are meta but don't interest you.
Anyway, good video!
Thanks for another well thought out video! I see a lot of content creators basing “should you pull” off of damage potential and that’s silly when you consider the fact that mihoyo is pretty trustworthy when it comes to balancing their games for all their characters. Choosing based off the options a character gives your account will always be more satisfying in the long run.
One thing that I don’t think is super important but still should be mentioned, is that for some players, considering what they play ZZZ on could help them decide. I originally was going to skip Qingyi for Jane, and then accidentally received a lucky Qingyi when I did a single ten pull in a moment of weakness. Im exclusively a mobile player at the moment, and it made me realize that with my jankier controls and more casual playstyle, Qingyi made quality of life doing dailies much better than Jane probably would have. As much as I love Jane’s design and playstyle, it’s more skill dependent and I was struggling a bit with it during the game demo. Maybe it’s just that I suck, but either way, going forward I’m going to try to also think about teams that feel smoother to play on mobile. That being said, I’m going to try to skip Jane for Caesar now, but there’s heavy emphasis on try 😂 in the end fun trumps function for me
i will wait until Caesar is fully leaked to see if i must skip or i can do how i want
I'll be pulling for her since my acc really lacks DPs, my only S tier agents being Qingyi and Nekomata
I’m getting Jane because I’m also getting Burnice. 260 pulls saved up right now.
260 pulls? did you not pull anyone or you just bought the pulls?
@@raiden4mgo yeah I didn’t pull for anyone and I’ve been saving since the game came out. A lot of people are actually doing this since they’re saving for Miyabi.
@@fadicrafter6090 seriously?.. im looking forward to miyabi, but saving this early is weird.
@@joogled1839 well that’s why I’m getting Jane Doe and Burnice since Miyabi is expected to come in 1.4 which is far enough away that I can still guarantee her.
@@joogled1839 it sounds familiar to ayaka and those poor souls who were saving for Signora xD
Lucy + Seth + Jane is looking good but I'm gonna patiently wait for more data!
Smart!
Is Lucy better than Piper on this team?
Why does everyone have Lucy but me 😭😭😭
I do have two teams that can be mixed to get a third one with a different focus, but the teams are Ice and Ether focused. So its hard to get past shiyu defence content especially the time focused ones.
Getting Jane and building around her for some assault options would help to build my account but also build it a lot wider than taller
I'm about 30 pulls away from a guarantee and I missed out on Ellen and Zhu. I could get Qingyi but I'm already actively using Anby. I don't know if I'll incorporate Jane in an active team (I like the teams I currently got) but it's hard to justify not doing a pull on her banner and getting her, especially since I like her playstyle and I'm near close to pulling an S. Plus, Seth also seems like he'd be a good addition and it would be a good opportunity to get Anby's Mindscapes while doing pulls to build for the next 50/50 or guarantee.
I love her gameplay and design but, I should skip. I got lucky getting Ellen and Zhu so I don't feel great about getting another "damage dealer" plus Caesar and Burnice have some GYATT- *ahem* great assets and synergies with the rest of my units.
Min 1:55 "this isn't to say that she is bad though"..... of but she is bad, the baddest of them all
congrats on 10k subs. I got my two teams set already so im just in save mode for the time being.
Thanks. That’s probably the smart play!
I will simply lucksack Jane, Caesar and Burnice!
This is the way.
I've got a good Ether and a good Ice team, but i want Jane because i have Grace and by summoning for her i basically get a free disorder team. (Only spent money on the monthly 4.99 pass)
Let's go! Good luck!
I dont think i have good team for her rn and i also have ellen and zhu. Considering how caesar looks currently i should ski..... you thought i would say that? Who do you think i am?? A filthy cheater? Mine princess' traitor?? There is no universe i would do that and caesar is coming home too no matter what hoyo will throw at me
Don't!
Don't!
Don't!
Don't!
Anby in this Banner and You Will Want Her A6 if you like the Character (like I do)
[You're still a Free Thinker, just decide at your own pace]
Continue free thinking sir!
Word of advice then: don't watch the Jane's trailer ;)
Anby is in the banner!!!!? Now i have to
This is one of my main reasons to pull for Jane. Of course I want Jane and Seth, but I really wanna max out my Anby.
Mhhh i wonder why .... C6 Art cough cough
Prepared my Nekomata now for her and will start pre farming her mats soon.
Yeah nah, i'm pulling for her
I can't argue
Thanks for the advice. Btw google says that someone who spends $5 a month or more is considered a dolphin, so since I bought an internet-knot membership I'm technically a dolphin now.
I feel like these videos are still "for me" tho
I think google might be wrong on this one. Dolphins would spend way more than $5/m. The membership is just 1 step above f2p I think. Nowhere near dolphin
@@hellzofwarYeah Im not sure on this either. I don't spend every month on gacha, but when I do usually 100-150(I save so that I can afford it cus I learned with gacha you get more for your money spending a larger amount at one time, then several smaller transactions more often). So I spend that and then buy the monthly passes. Id say that'd be dolphin like 100-200$ maby?
I've been pretty lucky as a low spend player. I managed to get both Zhu Yuan and Qing Yi, so my first team is completed with Nicole. My secondary is Koleda, Grace and Rina/S11. Koleda is by far my favourite unit so I'd like to build around her, but all three of the next characters look really tempting.
one of the things i dont like about the banners in this game is that they are pushing full team back to back , if i skip Jane i might as well skip burnice and even ceaser , and i feel if i do that i wont enjoy playing the game for like 3 month , im pretty sure i will still be able to S rank all shyiu defense still with elan /zhu teams , but just might not be fun to plan to skip everything for the next 4month
Agreed. It's like they're just lining them up and expecting you to empty out your wallet. At least they aren't also grouping the attributes like that. It would suck to get Electric, Electric, Electric, then Ice, Ice, Ice, etc.
@@papacharlie-niner148 but they do group factions each banner also we geting 2 physical in a row ,
My thoughts exactly. I get that the goal is to entice players to spend money but it's a lot of money to throw away on the chance of possibly getting the character you want. I lost the 50/50 for Qingyi to Rina and essentially did everything I could to pull Qingyi at 8 pulls left my 2nd time around. After doing that I don't think I'd spend more than $15 a month on this game. Saving up polychrome and skipping certain banners seems like the wave
@@mohamedsaid2227 By two Physical you mean Jane then Caesar? Maybe they'll switch things up and release Burnice after Jane.
Burnice works best with other anomaly btw, such as Grace and piper
On the other hand, Jane works well with Seth (on her banner too) and qingyi
Caesar is just gonna be comfort stun/support for your DPS with her utility
None of those three are even in the same team 💀
Tip: right now in test server only jane + seth can beat end game content faster than adding another character
oh btw i saw they announced that Seth will be on Stable channel. for people that don't pull for Jane it means you will still be able to get him
Im skipping since im on gurantee and im saving for miyabi
Thanks for this video! I was a little torn since I'm looking to save for Miyabi but this made me make up my mind to wait a little more, will definitely be coming back for when the next characters get released!
I'll have about 320 pulls saved for Jane and her sig. I haven't gotten a good second team going yet, and now I feel like I have a solid plan for building a second team around Jane. If pulls go well, maybe I'll have some leftover for Caesar or Burnice, but I feel pretty good about pulling a good DPS since I don't have Ellen or Zhu Yuan.
You have literally the exact same team build as me. I have a piper Soldier 11 build and it isn't working super well for me, so I think I'm probably going to pull her as well! I would consider pulling Ceasar, but ngl getting Seth as well as Jane? It just pays off so well for my account.
Exactly!
nakfrg did extensive tests that showed Jane's best team was Jane/Seth/Lucy, in case someone wants Jane but has been put off because they don't have Grace.
I should have mentioned that!
This is actually super helpful because I have a powered up Lucy and that gives me reason to pull since I’ll have a good team!
do not listen to this. nak's "extensive texting" is not reliable. he doesn't keep his buffs up and he uses bangvolver for every single comp. not only is the methodology bad but his piloting isn't great either.
if you're running on a budget just use anby.
@@thoughtbom Anby? What?
C'mon now at least mention Qingyi instead how is Anby gonna help Jane 😅
@@so-toa9758 are you literate? do you have basic reading comprehension to know what "on a budget" means? qingyi is a limited 5*; she is not a budget character, which is what lucy is.
anby pairs with seth for electro anomaly and is a stunner which jane benefits from greatly. yes, qingyi is better, but that is not a budget option.
Planning to pull on her too (and maybe also get a her signature) and I was keeping tabs on pre-release gameplay I have seen Jane-Lucy-Seth teams also working so if you're too pressed about building Grace that could also be an option. Personally though, since my Lucy is with my Soldier 11 and since I don't have Piper/Grace/Rina I'm planning to do a scuffed Jane-Nicole-Seth team because I figured it's not really a waste to build Nicole since she's still a pretty good support that I can use in the future once there's an ether dps that interests me. I'm planning to go for Burnice as well so Nicole is just a temporary substitute. Caeser on the other hand, I have no interest personally. Even when the 1.2 characters got announced I was really just interested in Burnice because you know, flamethrowers as weapons are cool as fuck. Don't really care how broken Caeser will be if she doesn't appeal to me both in terms of design and (leaked) gameplay. Anyways really nice video and good luck on the pulls!
Man, this video makes me doubt pulling for Jane again. I have Grace and Rina at M1 (don't ask) so I thought she might do well in a team with them, but what I really want is an electro Attacker that feels a bit more smooth to play and powerful than Anton. The thing is, I might have to wait a long time for that character to release...
yeah i'm in your boat currently, i pulled on ellen's banner with my initial pulls and polychromes and then didn't pull on zhu yuan, so my second team is grace piper rina and i could really do with having jane instead of piper. i also have zerooooo interest in caesar and im sure i'll be able to work up maybe toward guaranteed burnice by then. seth is a huge bonus to pulling jane too, idk if i'll even use him but he grew on me over the story
Yeah I actually ended up really liking him.
I have a Zhu Yuan, Anby, Nicole team. And a Ellen, Koleda, Soukaku team.
Should/Can i roll for Rat?
(Low spend player. Just IK Membership / Battle Pass)
I get your point on checking if You have two teams or not, but I have a point to add - I have Ellen team without Lycaon and fire team with s11 and Koleda. Gladly I got Grace as well from standard banner and initially I wanted Jane to be in 3rd (overkill, I know) team with anomaly focus. But from additional info from cc server tests I only strengthened my will to pull as I saw a hypercarry team build with Seth and Lucy that performs good in all setups.
So even I already have two teams that close shiyu 7S (both previous and current) I still will pull her for situations when anomalies will have significant value in shiyu or we get an anomalist stronger then grace (especially with passive buff to disorder)
Having Seth on account from his banner is good as well for harem yk 😅
I lowkey might be more excited for Seth.
For me it's pretty simple. I love Seth, I'm going for all his mindscapes, so Jane is most likely going to come along the way and it's convenient that they go together in their best team. I also haven't invested into any of the physical DPS so Jane is adding that damage type coverage to my account. I only pulled on Ellen and my second team is a fire Soldier 11 team, already cleared all the content including all S on Shiyu Defense critical node so I'm feeling comfy.
I'm in a similar place oddly enough, I was fine with getting either Qingyi or Jane since I'm short either a second Stunner or DPS right now. I actually really enjoy Piper's gameplay, so hearing Jane actually can build decently with Piper, field time aside, is good news for me!
I really like Jane and I’ve been saving materials for her for weeks. Although I’d argue that disorder teams for Jane right now aren’t really the way to go. Just because the anomaly agents we have also require lots of field time, you spend too much time trying to set up disorder then if you just let Jane do her thing. If Burnice turns out to be an off field anomaly then she’d work perfectly, but besides that, I’d recommend double support for Jane.
I'm skipping Jane, unfortunately
Sinceramente si pensaba en saltarme el banner de Jane, pero es que, sin tomar en cuenta su estilo de juego, ella es del tipo de personaje que mas me gustan, del estilo "Onee-san", por lo que creo que sera tirar algo pero tampoco quedarme sin recursos.
Aunque una cosa me queda clara, si tiro por Jane, deberé saltarme si o si la 1.2 si quiero asegurar a Miyabi.
Felicidades por los 10k que en verdad los mereces por la calidad en la información en tus videos.
I feel like jane and seth will be a good investment just to have anomaly options. I currently don't have Piper or grace so having that anomly option for Jane/Seth is the direction i'm going. Currently have the meta Ellen and Zhu Juan teams but i feel like anomaly content will be a thing soon so having a 3rd team is good.
I agree. I think Seth alone is a good long-term investment, so I would not be surprised if people only pulled on limited enough to get Seth and then stopped, waiting for 1.2 to build a disorder/anomaly team.
I'd really like to get her for future teams. I did that in Star Rail with characters like Topaz, and it actually paid off in the long run. But I think I want Caesar a whole lot more.
Yeah, Caesar does look cool.
i'm gonna pull for jane not to replace piper, but to replace anby on my other team. who needs stunners when you have ~assault~?
0:55 crazy gameplay background 💀
I'm reluctantly skipping Jane because I don't really need her at this juncture and would rather get Caesar+Burnice.
Hopefully she'll rerun sometime next year
Yeah I think for a lot of people that might be the right play.
Same. I’m skipping both qingyi and jane for those 2. but, I’m scared miyabi will come out next when I have nothing saved up.
Skipped Ellen. Pulled Zhu Yuan. Got c6 Nicole while doing so. Pulled Qingyi. Pulled Jane at 30 pulls. Yet to lose a 50/50. Apparently I am not an average luck gamer. But I AM going to milk this all the way to a Jane Caesar Burnice before my luck runs out!
I have my own same Zhu Yuan core and right now I have Rina and Corin languishing for a 3rd member and Jane fills that slot better than anything else coming besides maybe Caesar, but I think Jane will work with her better. I can swap Anby around more freely and this is a passive benefit for going for her since I don’t really have a good team for Burnice ATM.
I know this is heresy but I'm pulling Jane cause I wanna replace Zhu Yuan, I liked her at first but her playstyle ended up not being for me at all, Ellen's still been carrying me since day 1.
And I was honestly gonna skip 1.1 entirely... until I got a chance to play Jane and she feels so good. Here's hoping I win the 50/50 cause otherwise I can't afford 1.2.
I'm kind of unsure of where to go from here. My account is in a very similar state to yours, with my Team 2 being Grace/Piper/Rina. Jane would be a great replacement for Piper. My issue is that I kind of hate playing Grace. The moment an enemy disrupts my rhythm, I have to switch to playing her while focusing only on the top left corner of the screen to keep track of my meter.
I think I'm going to pull until I get either Seth or Jane. My limited banner is only around 30 away from hard pity with the 50/50 already lost, so it's kind of a toss-up who I'll get first. Hopefully Burnice is fun to play, and I'll have enough poly and luck to grab her.
seth, jane, piper ... enough said. I'm NOT supposed to pull her, repeat I won't pull. I think if you got Zhu Yuan you should get Qing Yi. Quin Yi is really dope AND she buffs like crazy. Until I got her I didn't see what was so awesome about Zu Yuan. Also gratz on using conditionals this time ;)
Thanks, I’m learning! I can see me getting qingyi on rerun as Anby is ok on first team for now.
Second team atm is garbage as well. Will be getting Jane + M2 + Engine and both ceasar and burnice… investing vertically in them as well as Zhu & Qing for their reruns as easily my favs… so don’t mind spending & saving
1:16 I know this vid is a bit older now and we have a bunch of more data.
But now I can confidently say that she IS busted overall. She makes Shiyu extremely easy, and even building her is easier than most other DPS characters. As she also doesn't need to rely on a stunner in her team she is even more f2p friendly.
I've gotten lucky and basically gotten optimized teams already so I'm thinking about trying Jane out as part of the Cop Squad and making them focus a bit more on anomaly. basically my idea is to have qingyi and Jane build up anomaly before starting a chain attack with qingyi's finishing move and proccing disorder during the chain attacks, then letting Zhu burst corruption and raw DPS during the stun timer.
Unlike you I like my Soldier 11 so I can start thinking about my third team.
I think Jane's banner is just stacked. I feel like Seth is going to be a staple in a lot of anomaly teams for a whie. Add Lucy or Rina and you already have a new physical team in one banner. Then you have Anby who everybody likes to have more copies for their Zhu team.
I'll probably pull for Caesor too to bolster my S11 team and then start looking for electric and ice teams.
I have Grace already and I pulled Jane to work with my Anby. To stun and run disorders. That's my gameplan.
Hey, thanks for the vid!
As a ftp player and newbie to gachas overall, I'm really not sure if I should get her, since, similarly to your case, my El/Lyc/Soka team performs well enough, but the only other team I could come up with so far was neko/piper/lucy, and they're kinda falling behind.
I'm not sure if I should pull for jane since the only possible team I see for her is seth+piper, and I'm not sure if I'm a fan of such character set (I like Jane, but didn't get to feel Seth well enough, and really am not sure if I like Piper).
Really sad I missed out on ju though, only now I begin to realize how much I liked her comparing to other, newer chars :<
Update: After checking other comments and thus checking up on Caesar, I might want to wait for her. I think I like her more than jane even just visually, and it seems she should fit in well in my piper/lucy team!!
Been saving since Ellen specifically for Jane, even if she's not the best for the agents I have so far, I've set my poly's for Jane, so Jane I am getting.. and then I will panhandle for quarters to try and get lucky on Caesar and Burnice, lol. Also I love Seth too so Jane's banner is kind of perfect. Got 150 pulls saved and a guaranteed 50/50 on my next banner pull so it should go well. It's not a big deal to clear content slower, it's not going anywhere.
I'm getting Jane because I just like her as a character. I see myself using her for a good long while, even though I don't think I have many good characters that would work well with her. I'm not looking to 100% this game anyway (getting S rank in all missions and endgame modes), so team building isn't as important to me than it could be.
I literally need her cuz i miss on the ellen banner and now i need a second dps even if she is "Off/sub dps" and even if i wouldn't need her I'll still pulling for that bakery
I didn't start playing until halfway through qinqyi banner(missed 50/50 on that one that's how I have Jane now😊), and she functions as a perfect main DPS. You can definitely build her that way.
It’s maddening playing with Jane’s banner sitting there tempting me 😭
But I’m holding off for now in hopes that we’ll receive some inkling(unofficial or official) about a date for Miyabi’s banner.
I just started middle of Aug and pulled for her and her wengine. Won both! Got M1 Seth and M2 Lucy with their BIS wengines too.
Starting to like this game. My friend brought me to a ZZZ demo last HoyoFest and actually had fun.
Now here I am playing 4 gachas. Damn
Tbh, I’m pulling for Jane precisely because she is so flexible with her team comps. Yes, she does have synergy with Seth, but since she can also work with another Anomaly character, she can be flexible on support characters too. I can slot in Grace and Rina/Anby, Lucy and Piper, etc. I only have one dedicated Attack DPS with Zhu Yuan and she is just as flexible with her teams too, so if I can get someone like Jane to slot in with the characters I have, I can get more value out of her. Also, I really wanna get Burnice too, so Jane would slot in perfectly with her.
My situation is quite similar to yours. I have Ellen and very luckily got Zhu as well, but while I’m able to have a decent team in Zhu, Anby and Nicole, Lycaon hasn’t arrived yet. Whatever I use to make a second team feels kind of suboptimal atm. In attempting to pull Jane I’m essentially prepping a third team in the mean time. Should help me clear a bit more content and offer up some diversity by the time I finally get Lycaon. Plus I’d like to M6 Anby too.
Your account is in the exact same situation that I'm in where I need someone to properly flesh out a second team. We even have all the same characters built, the only difference is that you have a Lucy and I have a Rina. I would have grabbed a lucy from the shop if I'd known she would never appear for me T-T
Your account is exactly like mine lol. Im pulling her too for the same reasons. Except i like soldier 11. So this is now my 3rd team.
I want both Jane and Seth. No one can stop me
I have that S11 Piper Lucy on my second team, and Ellen Soukaku Lycaon for my first team. I just completed all of Shiyu defense last rotation and the new one that refreshed today with all S ranks. Jane looks really appealing, however I would like to pull all of Section 6 characters, ao I'm skipping it.
i gonna pull for her simply because she has the most enjoyable play style, her kit is really fun to play
On-field time budgeting is the most challenging part of team building in ZZZ for me today. And I think that's all down to growing-pains of a new game and its overall roster. Even if you were to kraken and pull every single agent, there are still roles missing, making it hard to optimize for every aspect of team building, particularly for on-field time. So my conclusion is, don't sweat it! There's no point in agonizing over the imperfections in a team build due to the lack of, for example, a compatible off-field buffing support agent. I finally convinced myself to be satisfied with "good enough" and I'm a lot happier as a result.
I am curious on what are your next pulling plans and how lucky you got with Jane?
I am sitting at 185 pulls left after getting Jane.
I have Zhu, Grace and Koleda as my S agents as well.
Aesthetically my heart would say Burnice but Caesar seems very useful. At the same time maybe I should wait for Miyabi and Harumasa. Very hard decisions now.
Pulling Jane on stream tomorrow, so we shall see after that!
I'm a simple F2P man, I see 2 good looking character in the same banner with a fun gameplay, I pull. More seriously, I didn't pull for any limited character until her because I will only pull for what I find the most fun characters and build a team with. this will be more than enough to clear most of the game and be happy
f2ps really understand how the game is meant to be played lol
Im in a position where I have one usable team but a subpar team on the other making me have to pull for Jane Doe if I ever want to see success in Shiyu before Miyabi. (edit: oh wow your account is pretty similar to mine but without Zhu Yuan)
THAT being said her physics won me over
this is literally the only reason i came back to the game after dropping it before ch3 lmao
gimme the rat
Pulling her until I either get her or reach pity. Given the rate I acquire Polys ingame, that would guarantee me Caesar and maybe enough later on for Burnice. While I need a solid S Rank DPS (M0 / no sig Wengine Nekomata sucks and I did not get Ellen) but I think in the long run my account will benefit more from Caesar than from Jane. That also should at least give me an M1 or M2 Seth, which is a nice bonus to build my account horizontally for a while so I can build cool teams in the future when agents drop that are either very cool and / or totally OP ;)
Me personally, I plan on pulling Jane and Seth even though I don't really have a perfect team for them right now, but I also don't plan on pulling for Caesar and I didn't get Zhu, skipped Ellen and skipping Qingyi so I only need 40 pulls to get pity, and should have at least a decent amount of time before needing to potentially pull for Burnice. Currently running Ben, Von Lycon and Rina so Caesar isn't needed for that team, might put her on a team with Seth and Anton, see how that goes. Sorry Caesar, you look cool and all and might be the first Defense S rank, but Ben is S rank in my heart.
I have Ellen and Zhu Yuan, and I don't have any particular plans for building Jane (I don't even know what her kit is exactly), so this feels directly pointed at me but I simply cannot resist my need to pull her
I'm going to be skipping Jane because I don't think i could have the drive to build a team around her like I have for Ellen (Currently Her, Sukaku, and Nicole.) while I could slot Caesar into the Nekomata Team I have in place with Lucy.
I am at 45 pity only 25 Tapes because I can't spend money on this game, not because I don't want to I just don't trust myself with a Credit or Debit card. Alos after Caesar I'm planning on Saving for for Zhu Yuan's next banner because I enjoy her a lot but lost my 50/50 so I wanna keep that option open.
Hey man I have the exact same set of characters just like on your account. Thanks for the insight my dude
I'm in a similar situation, I have a good team with Zhu Yuan but no second team and the only standart banner 5 star I got is Rina
Tbh i dont really care if shes not going to be the most powerful character, i love her play style and erm Direction. Meta is cool n all but enjoyment is better
I'm a completely shitty button-mash style player, so the agents kits don't really make much of a difference to me. I don't even understand what anomaly is or does or how to use it. Playing Jane just feels super satisfying, she's got a great design, is a fun character, and I want to play more with her, even if that means I'm not min/maxing (I never am anyway). So I'm absolutely going to try and pull her :D
So i have the same players you do minus Zhu and add ellens meta team, I am 100% going for burnice, so what do you say should I go for dat rat ars?
I would say Jane would be pretty good then. But depends on your polychrome, I have enough to guarantee her which means I could probably get Burnice too. If you’re in a similar boat then go for it (if you like Jane).
It does not matter, the rat will be caught no matter what.
I really like Jane and my account is currently pretty scuffed. I can only really run S11 and Anton w/ Grace, but SD is hard. Best is 5S 1A 1B. But I might wait to see if Caesar stays as broken as she is rn. Literally every support rolled into one with a 1k 90s damage boost as long as you don't get hit.
Having basically always hit soft pity and lost basically all of my 50/50s in all hoyo games, I might just do a 10 pull and pray.