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- On today's What America's Thinking, a new Hill-HarrisX poll reveals almost 60 percent of Democratic voters believe employers have a right to fire their workers for something offensive they did or said off the clock. This survey was conducted online within the United States from September 30 - October 1 among 948 registered voters by HarrisX. The sampling margin of error of this poll is plus or minus 3.2 percentage points. The results reflect a nationally representative sample of registered voters. Results were weighted for age, gender, region, race/ethnicity, income, political party, education, ideology and area type where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population.
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That's a slippery slope, what's deemed "inappropriate" can become very broad.
Did you just refer to a woman as "broad"? Cancelled!
@@TheBruuz good one! I was referring to how that definition can be manipulated.
@@richkessler13 ;)
Some women are very broad. Men too.
@@TheBruuz got em! 😂
I'm offended that they even had to ask this question. More proof that America is sick, but refuses to seek treatment.
EXACTLY
What I do outside of work if not illegal is none of the companies business. If I am dressed in a company uniform then they should be able to do some kind of warning or counseling the person ONE TIME ONLY. If you violate the agreement you get fired.
I’m no longer a Democrat!
The contradiction just highlights public educations failure to cultivate critical thinking
there's a new poll out, but why just tell you the results, when we can watch a half hour musical animated graph about it!
Slowly reveling then one at a time
So why is Don Lemon still employed?
Lemon brings in the big numbers at CNN!
I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT
I feel sorry for the 18-34years old saying yes. They should watch out cos they are next to be fired for saying "crazy stuff"; hence that's their go-to language whenever their immature brains can't process words under pressure.
The 64+ know it doesn't make sense to get fired for anything outside of work. What a world we live in today.
We are not a private persons anymore 😞
Bro, I never yell at a cashier. Why would you do that?
Losers do that, and we have a lot of them
This debate is a clear example of the issue. It all opens the question that people assume has been answered, which is "Where do rights come from?" Are rights simply privileges granted by an authoritative group or are rights something that exist beyond the opinions of people. One's frame of reference in that regard determines what they are actually asking and what type of answer they are open to entertaining. They're not touching it with a ten foot pole right here.
Sounds like the guy us making up the stay in your hood part in order to cancel the lady. Video doesnt show her saying anything other than repeating what she said
Yeah. My first time seeing this and I was surprised actually. I had heard he has a history of doing stuff like this and trying to cancel people.
The video started off with her agreeing that she said that and then ended with 3rd party agreeing that she said that.
Jussie Smollet syndrome
@@linkingwithnaz1295 - did she while trying to take the phone? Sounded like she was agreeing with something,... sure... ummm... seems like a set up as this guy is notorious for doing.
It exposes how dumb the younger folks are. Being able to run a phone isn't a sign of intelligence.
Yes.
It seemed like everyone would be fired for being offensive at some point of time on their life.
I had someone behave offensive (gestures and probably words) towards me. He was in a company vehicle.
After several days of this, I called and let them know. I stressed I did not want him fire, I just wanted the behavior to stop. I did not mention the color of my skin, I am sure it had nothing to do with it.
Someone must’ve said something because the behavior stop.
So much better for a conversation to take place instead of someone losing their jobs.
imagine democrats being OK with employers firing workers who express BLM support :P.
I worked with a fellow who wasn't EVER going to win employee of the year, he usually did half or less than most of the other employees. He was always trying to make people uncomfortable, and start confrontations with people he didn't like. But like he told me once, " I ain't gonna lose my job because I have the NAACP looking out for me. This was about 10 years ago. Just saying if you're going to punish one for doing or saying something, you have to make it across the board equally. Peace and love y'all 🤟
What?? I don’t even understand the point of this comment
And, yet… we never heard the woman say those words. We only hear the black man say it.
Ah structural racism, the Dark Matter of woke cosmology....
This is *YOUNGER PEOPLE* making these bad judgment calls. It's pretty typical. What can we do? Educate them. YOUNGER people can handle real explanations.
It’s their parents fault for raising people like this
Oh no. It's an sjw culture of virtue signaling wokemeisters. It does skew younger but it's all ages.
Also a good chunk of the young people don’t work and those who do don’t work in the old style life long employment for the most part. This is probably why they don’t care about job security as much as the older people.
@@samhu5878 millennials are the biggest workforce out of everyone right now so you’re wrong. Also for most people now days it’s not sustainable to work one job for a long period of time, not to mention pensions have basically gone away so there is no reason to stay at one company. There needs to be a second and maybe even third job just to make ends meet.
@@mjkittredge Nope. It's far more specific than a few slogans. I myself am an *anti-racist Conservative Christian.* Working for Harvard Unitarians right in Emerson's parish, I met Bishop Tutu helping Anglican Christians destroy South African racist apartheid futures. See? Harvard + Unitarians + Anglicans + Anti-Racists. I'm super Conservative but *forcibly anti-racist.* We Christians buried 10,000's of real life South Afrikaner racists in early graves. I have great aunts who were Christian missionaries to Africa. *American GOP and DNC voters are working with the wrong categories.* See now? I worked for State Dept and Army in DC too. I don't care one bit about GOP or DNC. Nope.
Why would anyone assume the left would act with idealogical consistency?
(See Democratic officials behaviors during lockdowns for more examples)
Why do you assume this is something exclusive to the left?
It's purely a power thing. "Rules for thee but not for me" and all that.
@@Takeshi357 direct me to The Hill video highlighting conservative hypocrisy and I’ll leave a comment there too.
What makes you think conservatives don't engage in cancel culture behavior themselves? Try criticizing israel, religion or guns and see what happens
@@mjkittredge I'd imagine criticizing Israel would give you some, uh, _interesting_ responses.
But I guess you could make a comparison between conservative complaints about leftist censorship vs anti-BDS laws for sure.
the democrats aren't the left. and if you think this is a partisan problem you're a know-nothing robot
new poll. Do you think Emma Sarley was fired because her boss has zero tolerance? or because they want to avoid backlash?
It's okay to be Caucasian and love our accomplishments and culture.
Exactly! As a brown dude, I find it incredibly condescending and paternalistic when people - usually white guilted liberals - say white people can’t have pride or enjoy their own culture, and dare not to enjoy my own culture/foods because that would “offend me”..
I’m tired of people speaking for me as part of a monolith and treating me like a wounded animal just because I have a bit more melanin
Even when the culture and accomplishments are mostly built of the backs of oppressing other races?
@@IAintTheDaddyMaury well what’s the alternative? Being ashamed? Should black people have guilt for selling slaves to people and sending them over to America? We play a dangerous game pointing all issues in the US to “white” people. You end up segregating, persecuting, and demonizing people. …then teach that to children causing them to view those people the same.
Personally I don’t understand why people feel pride in the accomplishments of the past.
Ryan is in denial of what’s happening to Democrats.
If their bigotry becoms public, then they have EVERY right, as it reglects badly on them
Lol structural racism...yeah ok.. the problem is race only goes one way currently in this country
Structural racism didn’t exist? Which way does race go?
Currently? So it was ok for u in past to do and say thing racist with no accountablity
@@MB-fy8kk what race is that?
@@MB-fy8kk that’s probably because that history, especially in America, is riddled with oppressing others. Therefore “proudness” of that would implicate pride in oppressing other races
@@MB-fy8kk Boohoo we white people are the real victim because we can't oppress the other races like the good ol' days. It just not fair. It you have always be in oppressor equally may seem like oppression
Now let's discuss all those "right to work" laws.
Remember the woman who flipped off Trump's motorcade while she was riding her bike? Didn't she get fired/cancelled? Hmm, funny how it's different while being very similar.
Imagen, we are being lead into the future by the weakest generation offended by shadows!
China or Russia will invade the US in a couple of decades. They won't need weapons, just strong language.
They only have power because corporate America is scared shitless over the woke mob on Twitter organizing a boycott or damaging their brand
@@mjkittredge capitalism baby 🏆
@@TheBruuz Rome fell when the Romans invited the Visigoths in to bring order to their self-generated chaos.
How come these Harris polls or most polls in general are so close whenever I see them. I do not remember a poll that was a 80 20 split or a 90 10 in forever.
The younger part is very disturbing and I can imagine the new indoctrination techniques being pumped into all facets of education this number will rise dramatically in younger people.
If anyone has seen the TV show Continuum that had a corporate Congress... this Corporate control of society seems ever more likely and the ignorance and lack of foresight of so many people utterly out of touch with historical context and where this leads is frightening.
With the youngest group voting majority yes, you can hypothesize that they have no jobs.
It's also interesting that you only need a snippet of footage to get a conviction. You don't see what he did to get her that angry...
What would her chances in court be if she sued for wrongful termination?
Employers have the laws in their favor. They can do whatever they want basically and the employee has to prove they were discriminated against
@@mjkittredge That's sad for her then. Not that I want to defend her comment, but I think the punishment is way too harsh. There's no room for mistakes. You either make a perfect parcours or get cancelled, and as a bonus difficulty we don't know yet what will offend us next year. Might be we already said stuff that's going to get us cancelled then ;D
In USA there's pretty much no such thing as wrongful termination unless there is some sort of contract in place.
yes, Ryan nails it. It says "can an employer fire you for something you said outside of work" - they can, i would vote yes. I do not believe they SHOULD be able to though.
It’s potentially complicated
Why would they ask a factual question on an opinion poll?
As phrased, the polling question sounds like something right out of the SAT or ACT. The test taker has to ferret out the intention behind a lousily phrased question before ticking off an answer.
Anything that is hateful and hurtful should be scrutinized and condemned.
Should a company fire an employee for offensive speech/behavior outside of the workplace?
What qualifies offensive speech/behavior, can it be quantified?
Should an employer play an active role in the lives of its employees outside of work environment?
I think from my perspective, work is for work. What is outside of work has nothing to do with what happens in the workplace and that is as far as a company should reach.
The video seems to have been carefully edited to produce a certain result.
IT'S THE INTERNET
Well if they can fire them for not getting jabbed, i think they can
There were a couple of "Thirtysomething" episodes on this back in the '90s, and the very liberal drama came down on the side of the fired employees. Times have changed.
when the core of your identity is victimhood, you'll always be a victim because you need it that way.
So true. When will republicans stop being victims?
@@jcboyle82 you mean Democrats its one crisis after another and they are so weak they always looking for a government handout
White false persecution complex is a huge problem true
That’s the democrat way.
@@gdiaz8827 my banker wants a government handout ....
If it's outside of work, the employer shouldn't fire that person. I don't understand how so many people agree with firing someone for something outside of work. If it were to be at work, then I agree it should be done.
what about charllotesville ??
@@direwolf6234 why are you comparing Charlottesville to small incidents like these? A small incident in where you're simply expressing yourself, then get shamed for it, and fired at the same time. This kind of thinking is considered cancel culture, I don't think someone should get fired for it.
Another thing, if the person appears to be violent and harmful to others then that would be reasonable enough for an employer to fire an employee. But this example of an small incident with word exchanges is unnecessary. I find it interesting that democrats have gotten this low.
That’s because they are the party of CC …. when the instance works for what they want.
Min 4:15... please apply these points to vax mandates and employees being terminated as such
It has nothing to do with opposing "rahcism". It is about expanding the definition of "rahcism" to cover everything they don't like.
What?
@@jcboyle82 I think they may avoid using the word to not get it highlighted. Kind of like Twitter users not using the word “white” when talking about white people but a modified word. Their comment still makes no sense.
@@ricardobarahona3939 yeah people do the same thing when talking about certain medications. TH-cam tends to auto delete those
Unless you have an employment contract, yes they can because of fire-at-will. Should it be for just cause…not just cuz’? Yes
When the answer is split or you really have to think about, it should always be "it depends". It's a nuanced conversation. I'd say if what you are doing directly effects your work then yes. If it doesn't, the employer should evaluate if there has ever been any internal complaints and act according. Just firing someone because someone reports something seems a little slippery and the company just wanting to avoid backlash or having the company itself impacted.
the avoiding backlash part is very odvious and i would say accounts for 100 percent of firings like these.( this should be a problem that we all agree is bad) Not ethics or anything else whatsoever and we all know it.
I would love to say this is the dumbest poll they have used, but sadly it's far from it. There is, or at least should be, a lot of nuance here. Should an employer have the right to fire anyone for any reason? Maybe. Should an employer fire an employee for what they did away from the job? Depends. Say some dumb stuff in an argument, no. Start playing with yourself on a bus? Yes. There is such a wide range of offenses here.
This is such a joke
These two have to be the absolute worst duo to discuss any current events or issues.
The girl was obviously high as a kite in the video.
🥴
Looks like we need to raise to voting age to 36.
NEWS FLASH GENTRIFICATION IS THE "HOOD "
Ryan, is it really just "cancel culture panic" when we are literally talking about a woman who was fired within 48 hours of making a questionably offensive comment?
Yep. It’s just a panic. There’s 1 maybe 2 cases of this every few months. Not really an issue.
I can’t stop watching Seven Hunnid on TH-cam .. I’m addicted to his TH-cam videos
@@jcboyle82 Are you certain additional firings don't take place at a local level, below the attention of the national media?
Prove she said anything. The could be playing the victim and making a false accusation.
@@jeanwesleynew Private companies bro, that’s America
If you have nothing nice to say, then say nothing at all. Basic home training.
Cmon..
You can take someone outta the hood...
But you can't take the hood outta someone..
Silly Rabbits 🐇
Ryans stammering makes the hill unlistenable.
👏🏾👏🏾 THANK YOU for finally pointing that out. It's unbearable every time. It's a constant grasp at straws that just aren't there and he refuses to give up the feat.
yeah he's articulating like joe scarbourogh...
Especially when talking about race or “countering” Kim. Comes off really bad IMO
Robbie- That was a great point- That they support ex felons in work force (I too agree with that) but then are for firing/canceling people based on such non-crimes like these.
Who is they? Corporations?
@@jcboyle82 Democrats
@@jcboyle82 The young
@@skepticalfaith5201 so young people are going into businesses and telling these people they are fired?
How is this even a question when Dems want people to get fired for not getting the jab?
Oh no. How dare Democrats protect others from dumb dumbs.
@@jcboyle82 Yep, pathogens don’t care about “freedom”, religion, or ethnic backgrounds.
@Fauxindigo Would help lower the spread of variants and help the whole of society which we live in. That’s why flu shots are also important even if the flu is less deadly than Covid, the flu kills and harms people every year.
The same party thinks putting people on welfare is a noble cause even when the results show the opposite. We know it's not out of compassion but rather creating dependants to lock down those voters.
@@RJL612 No one thinks it’s a noble cause, second it actually doesn’t even make voters. The more needy a person is, the less likely they vote. The people the more likely vote are financially better off and more educated, a group that Democrats have relied on as a growing voter base in the suburbs.
Hearing him say stay in your hood should be censored
I really enjoy the diverse options on this channel now and especially the respect given to each different view.
I enjoy your more positive commentary vs most of what is in youtube comments
Your problem with cancel culture is completely distanced from reality.
That was a Poll Done by Karen for Karen
Remember a man named Jesse Smallet??
All this was is a argument between two people while she is off work. Regardless of how racial they argument was it is her private time. I think it's very wrong for people to call her job and get her fired. Was it wrong for her to say that yes but at the time it was a argument between two people in her private life.. if it was me I would have sued the guy who posted the video.. and also sue the company for firing her I hope that lady gets a lawyer.. I am so sick of cancel culture..
Huh.. So soon if a couple get divorced they will be fired from their jobs?
That used to be the norm - or at least if someone cheated on their spouse. If they’re not willing to stand by their vows what makes you think they won’t cheat your company?
@@skepticalfaith5201 what you have mentioned is not the point or the topic. The problem is that should the company you work for penalize you for your own social activities?
The mullet guy is back 😃 Better than the Ferrit woman.
Structural racism... Ryan, does culture outside of race ever play any part in the failure
of societies around the world?
If Ryan thinks racism is reduced, he has been spending too much time in his penthouse
consuming cocktails while reading the Nation.
WELL SAID
its a fact that it has reduced in even a 10 year olds lifetime. the mental gymnastics people use to justify hypocrisy is baffling these days.
"Culture" is an amorphous term usually used by Right wingers when they actually mean "race" but are afraid to be called racist. If we're talking about the US where the majority of the population is white and non white citizens didn't have the same rights on paper up intil 50 years ago then you cannot avoid the institutional racism conversation.
@@morenitomoreno1282 "the institutional racism conversation"
This was cooked up by the left to justify failure of certain groups. Constant
complaining about whites is a little like going to China and saying China
would be a great place if it weren't for all those darn Chinese.
"Institutional racism" is a bit overdone and to a degree Institutional racism
of one kind is just being replaced by another kind by the Left/Woke crowd.
@Otto Gaenafiel Being a Democrat is being part of a social organization.
You go along to get along. It is not an intellectual pursuit.
I love how Ryan ever so gently mentors Robby in obsequious Newspeak and spinelessness required to ascend in corporate news.
Robby almost said - gasp - that racism hasn’t increased in the past couple of decades, but Ryan deftly reeled him in to the shallow yet safe waters of political correctness.
Of course dems and younger ppl will vote yes. They’re the most sensitive ppl. Growing up getting mock by both white, black made my backbone stronger and still no hatred towards any of them. Unhappy ppl will never be happy unless someone loses everything over words.
It's not all dems, just this younger group of them who seem to be all too happy to give up freedom of speech to avoid hurt feelings or being exposed to different opinions.
If you're being racist outside of work, it's clear you won't work well in a diverse environment. A lot of people are seeing that right now. Private companies can do what they want just like you can say what you want. Republicans love At Will. Reap what you sow, I guess.
@@JohnM-sw4sc hipsters are just as fake as closeted racists lol. Means nothing, guy..
@@dragonslayer616 or maybe admit that diversity is not a strength and segregate the different groups. Good luck. I suggest you move to China your hatred for freedom aligns well with Maoist ideology.
@@stud6414 we're the most diverse country in the world. Racism is not freedom of speech. Maybe look up what that really means and you'll see that YOU really wanna be in China lol.
The truthful answer is sometimes he stay in your hood think was a little racist but not worth firing or disciplinary action but like if someone outside of work is saying thinks like n word , ch*nk , k*ke because It could possibly lead to other workers being abuse .
Assuming she actually said that
Impressed that they didn't talk about the covid more...
HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHA
THERE WAS NO SOCIAL DISTANCING
How did he make his hair different?
Not surprised by the 18-34 group. They’re the “everyone gets a trophy” crowd
Definitely not, that would be their parents who were mad that their children didn't win competitions and forced the teachers or whoever to give their children participation awards
I’m a boomer and I received undeserved little league trophies when I was a kid. That’s been going on a loonngg time.
Random comment to help with the algorithm.
Randomly commenting about a random comment
"We really wouldn't know", thanks for pointing that out.
chances are good she said those words but it's her boss who cancelled her, go work for someone with a spine... like Ben Shapiro??? I don't know.
I say they have a right too.
I basically believe if your off work not on work property private life should not be reflected in your work. But I do see an issue if your a public servant or work in a social setting, or drunken etc behavior if your working with young people/social worker
what about tiki torches marches..??
Ok let’s apply these goofy standards to issues of class. If you’re not a millionaire or billionaire you can’t talk about them and their experiences.
Good segment.
I've worked many jobs that have rules about behavior in public, of course when representing the employer or if wearing employer clothing, but also in general. but guess that's maybe bc I'm in the mental health field
The problem is, that it only goes one way when its race based
Yeah. It’s why we need to work together to get rid of structural racism. I’m glad you agree!
@@jcboyle82 when did I say I didnt? There are areas where structural racism does exist, but to act like it's the plurality is ludacris and acting like it's on the rise is even more laughable, being racist has been on a downward trend.
So Obviously the 49ers had the right to fire Kaepernick LOL
I don't think the 49ers or any of the other NFL owners broke any laws which is why there was no criminal case. The NFL ultimately settled with Kaepernick because they were getting negative press and wanted to make the problem go away.
Kaepernick wasn't fired. He had his contract voided & no other team wanted to sign him. He took the gamble & lost.
You should have someone read snippets of the articles. Plenty of us listen to you guys while doing something else. I actually avoid the videos of data for this reason.
It is intellectually dishonest to compare hiring an individual who served their time for their crime to an individual currently tarnishing the image of a business through their personal behaviors.
Good lordt they're sensitive on this show... Watch what you say to folk and you wouldn't have issues. Sheesh.
Especially in public.
However there is another issue: If you can’t say what you are thinking what happens to critical thought? What if it’s constantly shrounded in fear of being heard.
Maybe we need to learn to forgive and teach instead “they should know better” attitude.
Culture culture is ridiculous!!
What rights do Democrats support currently?
lol Williamburg was non white hood for very very very long time
And I’m guessing it was a white hood for a very very very long time before that. Lol
@@aben42933 LOL 😂
Look at Ryan struggle with his party become authoritarian... Take the red pill buddy!
Here's the thing. People need to come to a decision. Where does a person individual rights end and an employers begin? When good for them people flipflop based upon the situation. If employers can fire people for any reason.....then it's any reason. If they can't because a person should be able to say what they want outside of work, then that should apply to all things that are outside of work or personal to the individual.
it's too funny when white people talk about what's not racist
TWO WHITE GUYS ON RACE lol
jesus f'n christ, what's so hard about this topic ? what you say or do outside o' work reflects on who you are - which means the kind o' person you are at work (no matter how good you may be at hiding your grotesque flaws while on the job). any company has the right to decide what quality o' employee they have in their employ. this is america, yes, we have the god-given, u.s. constitutional right to be a horrible xample o' humanity - that does not however give us the right to work in any job (xcept being a cop apparently...)
I feel this is a lot like the question of if an employer should be allowed to fire an employee for using illicit substances outside the workplace. If it impacts their on-the-job performance, then that performance will merit their termination and the drug use will stay on the back burner. Or at least, that's how it should work, to my mind. What happens on the job is all that should matter.
Getting bad press for defending an employee making racist comments can lose a company a lot of money, that doesn't make it into your equation?
@@michaelneufeld4515 No. Racists have to eat and pay rent, too.
His book is interesting..... If I cant tell black folks how to be better black folks because I'm not black then black folks can't tell white people how to be better white people because they arent white. Be consistent in your beliefs. Come at me. I'm Hispanic and I'm ready to be called a racist now.
edit to add: Get a hold on the studdering. It sounds like yall don't have any confidence in what you're saying. Probably happening because you don't want to say the wrong thing.... Say it with your chest!
Libertarian commentary:
"Look at these pretty charts, what do you think, Ryan?
Nice job Fry!
Did she say it ? Race baiters … geez
It's called " At-will employment" Right to Work States or Union Busting. Two things the GOP has ALWAYS strongly supported.
And I will say that it is true. I wouldn’t want some employee of mine getting the whole company canceled.
@P.Miller the GOP HAS always supported that. I’m not sure that applies to today’s GOP.
California is an "at will" state, and we have a super majority democrat trifecta.
@@skepticalfaith5201 that's why they are going Full Snowflake on this 😁
the boomers are the only ones with any sense here with this particular issue...
It's not that they have more sense. It's caused they're the most likely to use racial or homophobic slurs in public cause they refuse to adapt.
@@morenitomoreno1282 there is some truth to that
As if Gen X doesn’t understand nuance and context?
@@morenitomoreno1282 hum, it was the boomers who were the hippies.
Didn’t this guy do this same exact segment last week