4k: Union Pacific Railroad Rotary Snow Plow at Troy, CA on Donner Pass

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
  • On Feb 9th, 2023, Union Pacific Railroad operated its rotary snow plow over Donner Pass. A spreader set worked west between Soda Springs and Cisco, plow, plowing snow onto the #2 track/up against the snow bank from the #1 track. The rotary traveled east up the #2 track, cutting the snow bank back. Here is the condensed version of the footage I caught.

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  • @RomeKG471
    @RomeKG471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn that power unit sounds good!!! I could listen to that all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Editing in the audio is the hardest part since the drone doesn't take audio

  • @raysantiago3750
    @raysantiago3750 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seen those in Colorado, gots me under my blankets keeping warm. Cool video. 🏜️😎☝️✝️🛐❤️

  • @KensGarage1
    @KensGarage1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an awesome machine.

  • @janiesoito4494
    @janiesoito4494 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This is terrific footage. I love the high angles that drones can offer. I betting that the snow plow operator had more fun that day than anyone!

  • @artiek1177
    @artiek1177 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great footage and amazing quality. I love the little Cat that was following along side earlier on.

  • @argentum530
    @argentum530 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video!! I stood in front of this beast in Old Sacramento when it was parked at the rail museum. The size of the blades and diameter of the blower are impressive. This is not the highway departments puny little Snow Blast, this is Old School Industrial Rail Power, and the folks who get to run it are having some major fun, they live for these moments.

  • @keithfullmer1058
    @keithfullmer1058 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the people and machines that keep the world going????
    So Many do so much!

  • @paullanyi516
    @paullanyi516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent drone footage . . ! Passing this link along . .

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Paul. 3rd video I've ever done. Gonna refine it. Have, like 67 videos that I took from the last trip. Hope to have them up in the next week. Lots of cool flanger stuff!

  • @WazZappening
    @WazZappening ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I get home, my wife asks me what did I do at work, and i'm like "today I watched a train shoot snow off the donner pass" and she just smiles and doesn't realize the calm these kind of videos bring me. lol

  • @teemo8870
    @teemo8870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool. Thanks!

  • @kens.3729
    @kens.3729 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unbelievable Amount of Snow. WOW! 👍🙏

  • @kn7615
    @kn7615 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I was a kid in Truckee, the minute the snow began to fall, ALL the town plows and many of the Dads with trucks with plows would immediately go out and start plowing, because we had SO much snow, SO fast, every winter, that if you got behind it, you'd lose all the roads; the town would get shut in and isolated....for the whole winter. For real.

    • @fitcwebb
      @fitcwebb ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder what the last year was, that actually happened. The whole town mostly shut in, with no road use

  • @Mike44460
    @Mike44460 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Interesting fact, the man who laid out the right of way through these mountains in the 1860s, Theodore Juda, was a visionary, and some sections are still used today unchanged from his original layout.

    • @itwasaliens
      @itwasaliens ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually over 11,000 Chinese laborers built those tracks. Theodore Juda designed it and found investors, but he most certainly wasn't building the tracks with the Chinese laborers.

    • @Mike44460
      @Mike44460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@itwasaliens The unknown workers of the project. Juda got very sick from his last trek across Panama coming east and passed away. Nowadays they layout and build roads anywhere where back there it would be considered impossible. Thanks for pointing that part out.

    • @jlawsl
      @jlawsl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itwasaliens Designers and engineers have rarely built large projects instead of supervising them, what is your point? Are you trying to bring race into engineering...sad. Well, good thing that even China didn't care about the almost 400,00 people that died on behalf of the Chinese government building the great wall.
      Honestly, after years of this whining and complaining, no one cares. We know history, we know that immigrant Chinese labor AS WELL as other labor was used to build the railways in the west. Funny, don't see you all complaining about Irish labor or any other European immigrants. Seems like your biase is against a certain race. That's racist. Be better.

  • @therealmwalker1
    @therealmwalker1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Breathtaking views, thanks for sharing this.

  • @rickmartinez3781
    @rickmartinez3781 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used to see these rotary plows parked in the Sparks, NV rail yard when I was a boy. I always loved to see the unusual appearance and giant round fan on the front. For a long time I didn't know what their purpose was. We would go to the Harrah's Automobile Collection which at the time was in Sparks adjacent to the rail yard and I would always look for these plows. They are very impressive in person.

  • @tjmusa
    @tjmusa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we are a great big rolling railroad. thanks for posting

  • @ABQRT
    @ABQRT ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Beautiful footage, especially when going to full screen mode. Reminds me of plowing for El Dorado County DOT in Tahoe and when the Rotaries would come out to widen the roads, so there would be a place to put the snow from the next storm. Reminds me of the old steam powered rotaries the SPRR used. Used to keep them in Sparks or Roseville. This plow doesn't have the directional chute our DOT rotaries had, no need on the railroad right of way so they are just "tubbing" downhill. Our old DOT rotaries had 12V-71 Detroit diesels, you could hear them working miles away. The guy in the snow cat is doing what we called "pimping" for the rotary plow, which we did with a grader, both to pack the snow ahead of the rotary plow and to cleanup spillage behind the rotaries. Great video brings back memories!

  • @rickwienke4234
    @rickwienke4234 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I bet the snowblowers have been working a lot this year. Thanks for sharing your video. Love the high angle views. Well done. 👍

  • @johnmcgarvie4061
    @johnmcgarvie4061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing drone footage!

  • @kn7615
    @kn7615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yup ~ it is bleeping AWESOME to see in person, lol

  • @averageguy7136
    @averageguy7136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was incredible. I so appreciate you filming that.

  • @blogengeezer4507
    @blogengeezer4507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'Rudolph Diesel'... 1896... still doing the mandatory Big Work.. :)

  • @cliftonyoung881
    @cliftonyoung881 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing video bet it would be fun to drive the snow cat

    • @miked5108
      @miked5108 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be fun duty for sure. Groomed with one of those 350s for years. That machine is running pretty much wide open trying to keep up.

    • @BNSF4706
      @BNSF4706 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is not paw patrol

  • @2quintly
    @2quintly ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent coverage, thanks.

  • @derekalexander4030
    @derekalexander4030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Ray, that is incredible footage. Thank you so much for going there and sharing the footage with us.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Should have more in the next few weeks once I organize and edit everything.

  • @jamesfrost7465
    @jamesfrost7465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So cool, terrific shots, drones are so cool. Thanks for sharing.

  • @russelmanary2501
    @russelmanary2501 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos to the crews, that is truly a coordinated effort. What powers that blower, sure moves the snow. What’s next, it melts and floods. Wish you the best

  • @dotydude
    @dotydude ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome! This is the first drone video I have seen that included audio of the target and no drone noise.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. It's not perfect but I have to record sounds from the ground then match it up. It's pretty time consuming.

    • @toast47624
      @toast47624 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raylewis_rr_photography Arrrrr I was wondering how the hell you did it. Good job!

  • @steelman86
    @steelman86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back in the day, i was fortunate enough to be invited aboard a couple of private rail road cars trips and when we traveled this route after a fresh snowfall, standing on the back platform was spectacular with only two small ribbons of track revealed in the fresh snow as we passed through! Not being from snow country it was always a thrill to watch the rails disappearing behind the car. At different points along the way, snow would be falling covering the tracks in the distance like nobody had disturbed natures beauty! 🚦🚂

  • @getoutwithrockandsherri
    @getoutwithrockandsherri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing this amazing footage!

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comment/view. Glad you enjoyed it. Working on 10 days of footage now. Hopefully will be uploaded soon!

  • @emd6456
    @emd6456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!

  • @MrThorp1
    @MrThorp1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love that old tunnel at like 3:30. I am always shocked at just how much and how far that thing can throw.

  • @spcabforward
    @spcabforward ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing, what a perspective! IF only we had today's technology in cameras, drones, etc. back when SP was still around.

    • @nerd3d-com
      @nerd3d-com ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Might as well dream big, I want to see an AC12 4294 pushing that plow. Hey I never thought I'd see a Big Boy run and that happened.

  • @shaunroberts9361
    @shaunroberts9361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding!!!! Live here in Auburn and always wanted to watch this live. Great video.

  • @Raptorman0909
    @Raptorman0909 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely wonderful video -- the amount of hours they must have been employed to clear snow this winter must surely have paid some serious OT.

  • @georgepitchley3946
    @georgepitchley3946 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Impressive, good old British Rail grinds to a halt, if there’s 2-3 cams, or less! Well done.

  • @austingregg2144
    @austingregg2144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!

  • @wileycoyote4206
    @wileycoyote4206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s really cool 😎

  • @b.douglasjensen
    @b.douglasjensen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done!!!!!

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Hoping for one more trip this winter. It's a looong drive from Phoenix.

  • @robertthomas5590
    @robertthomas5590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool

  • @rockkitty100
    @rockkitty100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We now have over 45' of snow at the Donner Pass. Our home is 700' lower and we have 42' of snow so far this year.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      I just left yesterday after 10 days of shooting trains. It's getting deep for sure....wait, it's freaking deep haha. Been going up there about 25 years. I missed a few big years while deployed, but it's the most I've seen personally

  • @sarajanesmith3892
    @sarajanesmith3892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I sure the Donner party could have used one of those snow blowers!

  • @johngaffney4852
    @johngaffney4852 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video, Ray.....

  • @johnwinden8511
    @johnwinden8511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have loved to been there in person to see this. You video is the next best thing, thanks!

  • @jfreelan1964
    @jfreelan1964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has got to be the best Donner Pass snow plowing video I have ever seen. I would like to see more arial video with a long view. Also showing how close the Interstate highway is to the tracks.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I have some new footage I need to process. Im new to video but am working on different angles as well. Very limited with the drone in regards to focal length...and the fact I live 11 hrs from Donner....more to come

  • @name-ey5it
    @name-ey5it ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That would be the coolest job ever 😎

  • @patrickmyersjn8455
    @patrickmyersjn8455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing the footAGE

  • @Parry635
    @Parry635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome!!!!

  • @55CMartinez
    @55CMartinez ปีที่แล้ว +1

    killed it dude

  • @Worow91112
    @Worow91112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Video

  • @bm03431
    @bm03431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Snowcat needs a snowblower!

  • @jamesburnside3023
    @jamesburnside3023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic liked and subbed

  • @edwardrogers3033
    @edwardrogers3033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think you have it figured out . looks great just like all your other work

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate the kind words. Helps me stay motivated. Lots of footage coming from flangers, spreaders and the rotary

  • @eddiel5671
    @eddiel5671 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool video 👍📸👍📸👍📸👍
    Love the Snowcat pacing the train to get the residual snow further off to the side !!!!!

  • @btbb3726
    @btbb3726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The road crew responsible for snow removal on the road running parallel to the railroad tracks - 🤯

  • @milwman1958
    @milwman1958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome Ray. Scott Marsh

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. Not a big video guy but I've had fun with it on Donner. Now getting sound to match the drone footage is a real pain

    • @milwman1958
      @milwman1958 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raylewis_rr_photography I wouldn't know just a old stills guy LOL

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @milwman1958 I should have never tried video. But at least with the Donner snow removal equipment it's shorter clips. But I'll tell you my thumbs need a workout. Trying to keep the drone steady for 30 mins straight is tough!

  • @deletedpenguin
    @deletedpenguin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:25, spectacular.

  • @wesmayhew5642
    @wesmayhew5642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was before the big snow days.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      There was still alot there even at that time. But yea I just left on March 8th and quite a bit more snow. Caught the rotary then too. Just need to edit that footage

  • @OutDoorFun3
    @OutDoorFun3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Looks like the train is only doing clean up. I can't imagine when it was the first pass and 4" all the way across the blower.

  • @steelman86
    @steelman86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if the drone operator was part of the train crew since this video goes for so many miles which would put it's operating distance too far from one starting point to communicate with the drone?? Spectacular video

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      The rotary goes like 3 to 5mph. I am able to relocate. It may look like alot of mileage but it's not. This footage probably covers 1.5 miles if that. I got alot more footage last week, and I was pacing it around 2.6 mph at times.

  • @FrogandFlangeVideo
    @FrogandFlangeVideo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant footage !!! And great piloting !!! You made it look easy. But from my own experience I know that it is not always so . James.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. I'm up here now so more footage to come. And your right flying smooth ain't easy. I gotta get my thumbs in better shape!

    • @FrogandFlangeVideo
      @FrogandFlangeVideo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@raylewis_rr_photography I do aerial chases of CN here in Southern Ontario. Check us out. thanks James.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FrogandFlangeVideo will do. Up on Donner waiting for the next storm then I will check it out.

    • @FrogandFlangeVideo
      @FrogandFlangeVideo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raylewis_rr_photography Man !! Would love to be close enough to Donner to check that corridor out. I watched some videos of the towns in the area. Insane amount of snow !! cheers. James.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      @FrogandFlangeVideo me too....I'm an 11 hr drive away. Canyon fly cause I need the 4wd and it's usually last minute. I need a different passion haha

  • @aleu650
    @aleu650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍

  • @bbundridge
    @bbundridge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What drone are you using to capture sound? That is really clean!

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Mavic 3. I record sound from the ground and sync it in with premiere.

  • @jonwalter6317
    @jonwalter6317 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful video, I especially love the scene with the abandoned tunnel. Nice to see the 70 year old F units still providing yeoman service on one of the world's most important railroads. Do they still have 567s or do they have newer engines? I assume Jeremy Renner is not driving the snowcat.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its said that the b unit on the rotary set on this plow, SPMW 207, was repowered with a 12-645 engine.

  • @ostlandr
    @ostlandr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 2:59 it shows an old tunnel entrance. They must have changed the route at least once.

  • @sarajanesmith3892
    @sarajanesmith3892 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too bad the Donner party didn't have one of those! They would have made it to California!

  • @alanh122
    @alanh122 ปีที่แล้ว

    This certainty was some awesome footage. I am curious as to how to recorded the sound ?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the comment. I record the sound from the ground then sync it into the video. I'll have some more Donner Pass snow removal footage posted soon, just need to edit it but haven't had the time.

  • @itsallspent
    @itsallspent ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My uncle was an engineer for for the Western Pacific RR .
    Any snow sheds still being used?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are three sheds left. Back in the day there was 50+ miles. Today, 2 miles'ish exist. One right above Donner Lake, one on the west portal of the "big hole" (tunnel near Norden), 1 at Norden and one at Shed 10 near Cisco. All protect switches.

  • @patrickmyersjn8455
    @patrickmyersjn8455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The snow cat is pushing snow in certain sections

  • @scr2392
    @scr2392 ปีที่แล้ว

    the old 567

  • @desertvs
    @desertvs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here from The Weather Channel app to smash the like button. Great footage! I am trying to capture some train footage here in CO too. Yours is superb! How did you capture the sound?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I record audio from the ground and do my best to sync it with the video. Still learning. This video was literally the 3rd video I've ever shot. More of a still guy. Just got back from 10 days on Donner...lots off footage coming soon

  • @notreallyme425
    @notreallyme425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Driving over the bridge in that snow groomer looked a little sketch! How do you get that job? Awesome!

  • @brianzimmer5532
    @brianzimmer5532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the tunnel to the left? An old grade I assume?

  • @captvictor
    @captvictor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great footage, to bad the whistle never blew ;)

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you....yea they were moving pretty good. Was mostly smooth sailing

  • @scotttaggart
    @scotttaggart ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome. I'd love to know the specs on the plow! 1,000HP? The video and sound are mesmerizing! How do you know they were going to be out doing this?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure exactly. I tried googling. But based on discussions with my peers eems to be 2 to 3k.

    • @scotttaggart
      @scotttaggart ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raylewis_rr_photography Probably custom built so probably not much online about it?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @scotttaggart It was rebuilt in 2013 in Iowa which is probably why. Check this site out www.trainweb.org/rrsnowfighting/

    • @scotttaggart
      @scotttaggart ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raylewis_rr_photography Thanks. Some serious stuff we laymen never think about or witness. They mention icicle breakers (talk about a specialty item!) on the link. I can imagine a 20 lb iceicle hitting one of those blades could cause some serious damage but maybe that is not where icicles are encountered.

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scotttaggart the flanger and spreaders have icicle breakers. They run pretty often to keep them from growing too big.

  • @DoahnKea_Tuber
    @DoahnKea_Tuber ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Raymond Lewis - SPECIAL REQUEST: Of ALL the railroad rotary snow plow videos EVER Uploaded NOT a Single one has ever SIMPLY(?) shown a close-up of the snow-covered tracks with the plower approaching THEN the UNCOVERED tracks.
    Please be the first to do so in your next post (another major snowstorm is coming).
    Thank You!

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll keep that in mind. It doesn't come out too often, although this is a year of years! I have some views like that of the other snow removal equipment up now. And I'm working on quite a bit of material that I took recently om a 10 day trip.

    • @LBHolder99
      @LBHolder99 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rotary snow plows are only used when the snow is falling too heavy for the flangers to keep the tracks clear. Generally 2-4 flanger sets are used and run constantly between Truckee and Emigrant Gap when the snow is falling. The flangers repeated trips start to build up a canyon wall of snow on both sides of the track so then during the day (when the crews can see better) the Spreader is brought out to shove those snow canyons over the downhill edge of the right of way. When it is really snowing heavily is when you see the rotary in action.

  • @dougkathydavies3024
    @dougkathydavies3024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are there snow cats there? Are they part of the UP plow crew?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they are part of the plow crew. Not sure why they were following. But I know they helped clear a few spots along the way

  • @brightstarboi
    @brightstarboi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What drone do you use please?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I use the Mavic 3.Note it doesn't record sound. I get sound from the ground and edit it in

  • @QuietStormX
    @QuietStormX ปีที่แล้ว

    Only see one of these in old government films growing up...

  • @ryansheppard21
    @ryansheppard21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dream jobs, train or cat operator!

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Add another month of hibernation for any bears denning below.

  • @davestevens4263
    @davestevens4263 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s badass ! Where can I buy an locamotion snow blower . Asking for my rich friends… lol

  • @PWaco-yq7wr
    @PWaco-yq7wr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video I like it a lot🚂🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃 We had are train show lot of videos p.waco

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching

    • @PWaco-yq7wr
      @PWaco-yq7wr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raylewis_rr_photography Did you get the BIG HOOK yet?

    • @raylewis_rr_photography
      @raylewis_rr_photography  ปีที่แล้ว

      @PWaco-yq7wr No sir....I left On March 7th. I live in Phoenix now, so it's a pretty long and expensive trip. I love the place so much though I try to go back every year. Just retired from the Air Force, so I'm trying to make the most of it.