Blessed Augustine made some problems with his errors in theology but we forgave him and accept his correct teachings. What is not right we tossed. In the end only God is infallible. Your old fart is.
William you and brother Sam were huge factors in my affirmation that I made the correct choice in reverting to the Catholic faith instead of looking to Eastern Orthodoxy. Thank you for your livestreams and all the work you do. It is very clarifying and edifying. Domínus Vobíscum brother in Christ 🙏
Hey William, I loved the live stream! I was having doubts about my Catholic faith, but this video came in just in the nick of time. Stay catholic and stay blessed brother!!! ❤❤❤
Peter, I'm English Catholic. I could never become Roman unless they reform. But I could become Eastern Orthodox. But I do work with the Romans and worship with them.
@@acTioNFLp Yes, I'm English Catholic. Britain was founded by the Apostles and their companions in the 1st and 2nd centuries in the British Isles, according to the Early Church Fathers, and secular history as well. We have our Apostolic Succession through the Apostle John. We hold to the Catholic/Orthodox faith of the undivided Church of the 7 ecumenical councils. Just so you know, Pope Francis says that the Russian and Greek Orthodox Church are Catholic also.
@@yourneighbour3309 It has never and even saint Augustine says it "And so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house."
I've heard that the Maronite Divine Liturgy was traditionally adorientum? Has it been influenced by the Novous Ordo Mass? I do love the Maronite Liturgy.
@@johnsteiner2960They did revise it in the 90s, which included a change to vs populum. WHY they did that is as much as mystery as to why vs populum is the norm in the NOM
The eastern Orthodox have no problem in dissing the Catholic faith. I've been to eastern Europe many times. Believe me, they aren't nice about it.. Vice versa is not the case.
You guys can't even diss pagans. You let them into St Peter's Square to worship their demons. Of course you can't bash us. I'm not here to be nice for nice sake. Your worship is demonic. Repent.
@@michaelwachira8484 don't the EO have ordained deaconesses now? Meanwhile Francis reaffirms there will be no female ordination in his 60 minutes interview
@conceptualemiliohaving a charitable heart is emotional now? The only thing that unites Orthodoxy is hate towards Catholicism, i say this from firsthand experience. Eastern Orthodox are just another branch of the Manosphere lmao.
Great video, really enjoyed it. Im thankful and blessed to be Catholic, waking up everyday i give thanks to God for his One True Church The Catholic 🇻🇦 Church and for having the opportunity to be part of his body, greatest thing for me in life.
How can they think purgatory is too Latin if ancient Greek fathers believed in it? because Greece is Latin as well.. the Greek language itself is Latin
No early church father in history ever believed in purgatory (which is a post-schism latin invented concept). However the early church fathers, and the Orthodox Church prays for the dead and we do believe in a purification process, just not purgatory.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II like much Orthodox theology it’s basically contrarian Catholicism but ends up saying almost the same thing. Note: almost. Also Tollhouse are completely unscriptural and non patristic yet some Priests will teach it because Orthodoxy is whatever you want it to be at the end of the day
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II can’t see it but not too interested in debate because from your comments I can tell you’re only quoting biased Orthodox scholars and pop Orthodox apologetics. I think if you do more research on the East you’ll find a history of meddling with the Papacy that isn’t coincidence and is quite malicious. The Pope of the East is just the king of the world, the emperor. Don’t think Jesus wanted that no matter how much the history has been altered to make these emperors look “holy”
Superb show. Thank you! My #1 reason for not being Eastern Orthodox (besides the fact that I find its online iteration extremely repugnant) is this: The Catholic Church evangelized the entire world, thereby obeying the Great Commission. The Eastern Orthodox didn't. St John describes "a great throng, which no man could number, from *every* nation, tribe, and tongue." This perfectly describes the Catholic Church. It does not describe either Orthodoxy or Protestantism.
The parable of the mustard seed and the parable of the yeast are clear enough: the Church will be worldwide and worked through every society and people. Only the Catholic Church has done this.
This is a big one for me too. The truly universal, standardized way to Christ laid out in plain sight with high accessibility worldwide. To me I just can’t ignore that astronomical claim to authority over the confusing ethnocentric silos of orthodoxy
I had to comment because this is an overlooked point and one of the reasons I'm not Orthodox or protestant. Bashing other members of the body of Christ seems not only wrong but contrary to the goal when there are still so many who aren't even saved into the faith yet.
If that's your reasoning for choosing Catholicism over Orthodoxy, then by that logic, you would've been a Nestorian between the 9th and 14th centuries, since the Church of the East (Nestorians) was the world's largest church in both numbers and geographical extent, spreading the gospel to unimaginable parts of the world. Sunni Islam has 1.7 billion followers vs Catholicisms 1.3 billion, does that mean we should all become Sunni Islam? During the Arian Controversy, there were way more Arians (layman and clergy) than non-Arians. Also, just like islam, Catholicism spread by the sword 🗡️ ⚔️ 🩸☠️, especially in all the former French, Spainish and Portuguese colonies. Speaking of Islam, the Catholic Church believes that Muslims and Catholics worship the same God, since Vatican 2, and so by yours and the Catholic church's logic, its a safer bet to be a Muslim than a Catholic.
@@jordanp3470 To bash ethnic Churches, is to bash the early Church, and even Catholicism itself. Roman Catholic Churchs used to also defined by ethnicity (Polish Catholic Church, Irish Catholic Church, etc). Back when Rome was still orthodox, all the churches were identified by their local names (even the bible refers to them that way). For example, Church of Rome, Church of Ephesus, Church of Corinth, Church of Alexandria, etc... The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Orthodox Church is the only unchanged Church that has preserved the original ways and teachings. It was the patriarch of Rome who departed from the 7 other bishops/patriarchs (Rome vs Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem Bulgaria, Georgia, Cyprus).
William i tried to dialog with some Eastern Orthodox brothers telling them we need to unite but they said no way because they consider us Catholics as heretics.
Please understand that this message isn't to bash the Roman Church, but instead to give you the opinion most of us Orthodox have 👍🙏 Most of us Orthodox definitely desire unity, but yes, it's true that we most certainly do view Papism as heretical, as did the other 7 bishops/Patriarchs vs the 1 Patriarch of Rome at the time of the Great Schism. In Orthodoxy, it's commonly taught (especially from our saints) that the Roman Church is the first protestant church in history, thats why many call it the "Papist Protestant Church".
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIyou wanna know what is heretical? Having your monks copying practices of eastern pagan religions and implementing that into your "orthodoxy", and then having to change your WHOLE CONCEPT OF GOD because of it, we don't have that problem, submit to Rome
@@Victóriadosantosandrade70 if it's the essence energy distinction that you are talking about then you just insulted the eastern rite Catholics, since they also believe in that. Even by Catholic standards, the current Pope is a heretic, didn't you see his latest comment about all religions being a way to God? Besides,why would we ever submit to this heretical Pope when even the Catholic Church agrees that papal supremacy didn't exist for the first 1000 years of the Church, just read paragraph 19 of the Vatican document called the Chieti document.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIif modern day orthodox reject papalism but yet your own councils, patriarchs and saints affirm it and submit to it. Then… who’s right and who’s wrong . Your issue isn’t with Rome or the Pope. Your issue is within your own churches and how distorted it’s becomes.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIand to speak on unity EO drives further and further from unity as they don’t agree on much doctrinal issues let alone reject the teachings of their own saints and councils. Unity begins within your own church first and reconciling doctrine and then try looking at the speak in others eyes.
@@sinfulyetsaved Yes. I asked him what’s up with your hilarious playlist entitled: “Sexy time” and he said you get the best sexy time alone in your room giggling as you shadow box people you’d never dare even approach in real life. Stay salty and single, son.
I love both churches and won't bash either of them, which is actually one of the reasons I went with the Catholic Church. It seemed like the orthodox church I enquired with and visited, wanted me to be anti- Catholic, and I couldn't, in all honesty, do that to her. Their priest also gave me a lot of reasons why he thought I might not want to join their church, none of which had to do with theology. The Catholic priest I met with, asked if I would like to do RCIA classes with him, I said yes, ended up being baptised, and confirmed this Easter vigil 🤍 ✝️
Glory to God, welcome Home. I love both also and I’ll keep pressing for union. Some have joined as Eastern Catholics, so maybe the prayers are working. Anyways God bless you
Actually we don't hate him at all. If we hated him we wouldn’t call him “Blessed Augustine”. But not everything he wrote was in agreeance with Orthodox teachings.
@@-catholic He’s a saint in the catholic church and is considered a saint in the orthodox church. And at the time, the two churches were still one. The church’s position is that he erred on a few things in his humanity but was still imbued with holiness. Had he been shown his error at the time, he may have corrected himself but yes he was more influenced by, and influential to, western christianity and the latins during his time. He is still venerated by the Orthodox despite his detractors in the church, as is the case sometimes with various Saints throughout history.
You speak for yourself when you say you don't hate him. The massive majority of online Ortho community(which DOMINATE the popular waves) trash him to no end. I applaud you for being more Orthodox than the community that sticks out of the most online. I agree with what you have said about St. Augustine @@spikestoyou
At it again W.A..God bless! proving with sources & references that the Catholic faith is on solid ground with too much of EO being novelty in much doctrine & dogmas.
Novelty.? YOu are heretic even to the Latins as old fart of your stated following: "These [orthodox] churches have an authentic doctrine, but it is static, petrified as it were. They remain faithful to the tradition of the first Christian millennium, but they reject later developments" - Benedict XVI
Paying attention must be a tough thing, brother. Magisterial Reformers weren't around when EO bent the knee to Calvinism. Context is really key, brother.
Those big channels have guys that are playing connect 4 while we are translating their own Saints from Greek to English. I don’t take them seriously one bit.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II My friend and brother-I was referring to the Orthobros that are hopelessly awful at theology. I co chair the largest Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic conference every 2 years. Every single scholar there is better than Me. Understand context, brother.
William, great video. I wonder what Dyer would say? I mean though I find his articulation hard to understand, he is a strong EO apologist. Have you talked/debated with him since this video? Thank you again for this bc as a Catholic we need the full context and understanding of our faith. Merry Christmas!!!!
Hi brother William is it true that the Eastern Orthodox reconciliation in the year 1438. Unfortunately that reconciliation didn't go as far as it could have. There were some churches that came back but in the 1450s the EO left the church again under some social pressure under pressure from Muslims and under pressure W/E Split 1054 the Latin creed.
EO has never and never will join Latins' heretical group. What you describe is process of purifying Lord's Bride at that time that needed to happen as it was full of traitors. We tossed out them and Orthodoxy continued refreshed and strong in Truth that some Bishops were perverting.
I have attended many Orthodox services and read copious amounts of books on Orthodoxy. Mostly purchased from St.Tikhons and St.Vladimirs seminary bookstores. I am a pretrib, kjv guy. I really enjoy the eastern Orthodox liturgical services and the beautiful churches. But can't honestly swallow some of the doctrines.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II The amount of doctrinal innovations in EO is shocking. It’s hilarious you ask this without even watching the video. You have been duped into believing EO has not evolved. It is present even in their pan Orthodox synods. Time to wake up
Arch-heretic of Rome stated otherwise... "These [orthodox] churches have an authentic doctrine, but it is static, petrified as it were. They remain faithful to the tradition of the first Christian millennium, but they reject later developments" - Benedict XVI So, you are heretic not just to us, Orthodox, but to the Latins as well as they believe Orthodoxy maintains original doctrines.!
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II praying to saint, praying to Mary, confessing to a priest, amellenialism, kissing icons. There are more. This is just a few unbiblical teachings and practices. Jesus taught that it is only thru him that there is salvation. The early church piled on many man contrived traditions that have no basis in Christianity. Practices condoned by many of the "early church fathers" such as Origen. Who it is acknowledged, taught many heresies.
I've been studying St. John Chrysostom and it's clear what his stance was on who St Peter was and who he is etc. Despite what revisionist history both s8des say it is clear that all patriarchates in the 1st millennium deferred to the Bishop of Rome and knew that the apostolic throne resided there. St. J Chrysostom refertopopoe Innocent as his holy master and is writing to him for aid, comfort and spiritual leadership to which his response is authoritative as one would expect. Be not fooled by ecumenists downplaying or denying such letters, homilies and other sayings that clearly give the true history of the papacy and the Church in that time.
Have you ever read Chieti document that you can find on Vatican website.? It states... Appeals to the bishop of Rome from the East expressed the communion of the Church, but the BISHOP OF ROME DID NOT EXERCISE CANONICAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CHURCHES OF THE EAST. - Synodality And Primacy During The First Millennium, Chieti, 21 September 2016 OUCH.!
@ yeah I have and funnily enough this biased revisionist history from the Vatican for the sake of ecumenism with EOs is just trash. The Vatican since V2 council this Masonic regime has had as their overarching desire to make the Catholic Church a synodal 💩show like the EOs is just false, with religious indifferentism as the goal. This political document is historically false and is independently verifiable. If you want to believe in it go ahead but the document is a political one. One again designed to make concessions to the EO church. This was never typical prior to Vatican 2. Ouch!
This wasn't good. Try to stay more on point. Papal supremacy is a good key divider. Explore it more. Don't just quote a bunch of lines from the Bible assuming that all who read will see it as affirming papal supremacy. If that was the case, there would be no protestant denominations. Try to clarify your own position as to why do you believe that those passages, for example, show papal supremacy. Do the same for the councils you cite. Read the excerpts from them and show they only a confused mind would reject papal supremacy. As is, you merely assert that all these things do so, without presenting any evidence for your position. Thank you for reading and have a nice day!
If you read the acts in the Bible you would see that all the countries mentioned there that apostols visit are orthodox except Rome which is catholic and if you read the history you'll see that they split from orthodoxy in 1054.
To be fair to the Orthodox, they use ‘Blessed’ as another title for a saint, such as for Augustine and others. Just as St Bede is often called Venerable Bede. It doesn’t imply an inferiority in any way as they don’t have a ‘beatification’ step on the path to sainthood but simply canonisation or glorification. I’m Melkite but attend an Antiochian Orthodox parish since I live so far from the nearest Greek Catholic parish. We’re allowed to fulfil our obligation here, per the rules of our Eparchy.
@@WilliamAlbrecht yes I understand that, just pointing out that often the Orthodox will use titles like Blessed or Venerable for their saints. Also to be fair, many Orthodox sincerely respect and venerate St Augustine for his holiness and piety, but do not fully embrace all his theological views, especially on predestination and original sin. Fr. Seraphim Rose wrote a book explaining this. Their main critique is that the Latin Church embraces too much of his erroneous views, instead of accepting the consensus of the Fathers, where an individual Father makes an error. Also to note, if I recall, Augustine’s works weren’t translated into Greek until much later, so it’s possible his ideas were mistranslated causing some confusion and misunderstanding.
@@ΆγιοςΙερώνυμος-χ2γ You are incorrect to posit that St. Augustine had diverging views on both predestination and original sin. On both of these views he held the majority Patristic view. His views on original sin are right in line with the classical Greek Fathers and the enshrined teaching at the North African Code. Contrary to famous protestant polemics, St. Augustine never taught original guilt and the so called Orthodox that malign the great Augustine's name do so out of ignorance.
@@WilliamAlbrecht could you prove where Augustine was consistent with the Greek Fathers on original sin and predestination? I'm no expert in this subject area, but every Orthodox writer I've read has stated that he taught original guilt which was in contrast to the view of 'ancestral sin' in the East. Every Orthodox priest I've talked to tells me that Augustine was erroneous on those two views, and Fr.Romanides if I recall, goes to an extreme on slandering all things related to St.Augustine.
@@ΆγιοςΙερώνυμος-χ2γ Why would anyone waste a second reading the dreadful Romanides? I deal with St. Augustine in depth in my original series shows as well as my debate against EO scholar Father Ramsey. Go check that out.
They have Apostolic Succession because their bishops can trace their lineage to the Apostles, therefore they do have valid orders. However, because they are in schism, they have forfeited their ability to carry out the ministry of the Church because they lack Jurisdiction, as they have forfeited the power of the keys because of their schism.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II Show me one document from tradition or Ecumenical council where your heretical ecclesiological terminology of Autokefali was used and defined. Its nowhere. Your heretical sect invented this heresy of National Autocephalous sects. The Alexandrian document? 😆😆 Of course the Vatican II sect loves you heretics.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II The See of Constantinople didn't even exist at the time of the council of Nicaea in 325. 😄😄 Your schismatic "Ecumenical Patriarch" of Constantinople wasn't even a Patriarchal See until Chalcedon in 451 AD.
No Filioque, No Monotheism. To deny the eternal Hypostatic procession of the Holy Spirit from both the Father and Son, and reduce the Holy Spirit's procession from the Son as a mere temporal energetic procession, which posits a real distinction between the Essence and uncreated energies of God, you have created 2 gods.
@EasternChristian333 Wrong, the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and Son as taught by the Fathers. Cyril of Alexandria's 3rd letter to Nestorius teaches the Filioque, a letter accepted at Ephesus. Apocalypse of John 22:1 was shown to the Schismatic Greeks twice at Lyons in 1274 and Florence and accepted the Filioque just to return to their vomit. You are a heretic, you don't have a clue what you are talking about
@EasternChristian333 The schismatic Greeks are blasphemers of the Holy Spirit for rejecting the Filioque. God destroyed your schismatic empire on May 29th 1453, which was the feast of the Holy Spirit, Pentecost Sunday for blaspheming the Holy Spirit for rejecting Florence. There is no such heresy as a temporal energetic procession of the Holy Spirit from the Son, or an eternal manifestation of the Holy Spirit from the Son. The intratrinitarian operations of the Hypostases with the Godhead are eternal, never temporal.
@EasternChristian333 The Filioque is a defined dogma where all Catholics regardless of rite must with divine and Catholic faith assent to. Eastern Catholics do not have to recite the Filioque but must with divine and Catholic faith believe it. This is not debatable. Whomever is giving you this information is wrong.
I agree with you on 3 of your reasons and I even agree that Orthodox that reject the deuterocanon are downright heretical. But I do not mind their larger canon.
little by little we will see the error Rome has fallen into. It is a shame, I hope Rome repents and joins back with the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Orthodox Church of Christ.
Nop, actually the easterns churches are the ones retunring to communion with the primacy of Rome, the easterns Churches, they include like 8% of the EO population, overall, a good job
@@J.R2023 Nuh... Orthodox will never unite with the old fart, unless he repents and confesses Orthodox faith. If some Orthodox fall (God forbid) and proclaim union with old fart, they will at that point cease to be Orthodox and will become Uniates, while those who do not accept to ne united with heretical Rome and old fart will remain Orthodox. So the Orthodoxy will live on as Lord promised His Church be pillar and ground of truth and that gates of Hades will not prevail over it. Stay tuned.
Orthodox can’t judge their own Hierarchs but they can judge the Hierarchs of others? For the record I know what Pope Francis is and represents, doesn’t make the doctrine invalid.
@@animals_are_alive Oh yes, we can and we do speak whenever we see heretical moves regardless of who is the fallen one and what title one holds. You have no idea what Orthodoxy is. Your old fart is outright heretic. So are all Ecumenists that are still claiming to be Orthodox. Purge process of Lord's Bride will, God willing, start soon and all those heretics will be thrown out and most likely join your heretical group.
I love it when Orthobros like you still act like brain dead evangelicals and manifest if you actually had love in your heart you would pray for the Conversion of heretical Christians Instead you are treating Orthodoxy like a football team.
hello william can you update me on when it will be possible to add me to the whatsapp group? i already gave you my phone number and my details around 2 months ago but so far nothing has been done. please tell me what is going on and how long must i wait?
Palamas=triads-meant to include both Mark of Ephesus and Palamas in what they say about Augustine
Blessed Augustine made some problems with his errors in theology but we forgave him and accept his correct teachings. What is not right we tossed. In the end only God is infallible. Your old fart is.
William you and brother Sam were huge factors in my affirmation that I made the correct choice in reverting to the Catholic faith instead of looking to Eastern Orthodoxy. Thank you for your livestreams and all the work you do. It is very clarifying and edifying. Domínus Vobíscum brother in Christ 🙏
Hey William, I loved the live stream! I was having doubts about my Catholic faith, but this video came in just in the nick of time. Stay catholic and stay blessed brother!!! ❤❤❤
Peter,
I'm English Catholic. I could never become Roman unless they reform. But I could become Eastern Orthodox. But I do work with the Romans and worship with them.
@@roddumlauf9241 English Catholic? There is only one Catholic Church, with the bishop of Rome as it's leader.
Catholic has always meant Eastern Orthodox..
@@acTioNFLp Yes, I'm English Catholic. Britain was founded by the Apostles and their companions in the 1st and 2nd centuries in the British Isles, according to the Early Church Fathers, and secular history as well. We have our Apostolic Succession through the Apostle John. We hold to the Catholic/Orthodox faith of the undivided Church of the 7 ecumenical councils. Just so you know, Pope Francis says that the Russian and Greek Orthodox Church are Catholic also.
@@yourneighbour3309 It has never and even saint Augustine says it
"And so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house."
found the beauty of being a Catholic and now I’m never leaving! can’t wait to raise my children in a Maronite Catholic home!❤️
I have been to Maronite Mass in Dc.
I've heard that the Maronite Divine Liturgy was traditionally adorientum? Has it been influenced by the Novous Ordo Mass? I do love the Maronite Liturgy.
I too attend the Maronite liturgy and it is wonderful, best of both east and west
@@johnsteiner2960They did revise it in the 90s, which included a change to vs populum. WHY they did that is as much as mystery as to why vs populum is the norm in the NOM
Oh Maronite, I have a Maronite Church near me. I can’t wait to go to my first liturgy! I’ll bet it’s beautiful. God bless you and your family
You are one of the greatest Catholic apologists I have ever seen William. It’s a pleasure to learn from you. Gracias mi hermano!!! Dios te bendiga!!!
Just got back from my first Mass after leaving the church thank God he used you to bring me back🙏
The eastern Orthodox have no problem in dissing the Catholic faith.
I've been to eastern Europe many times. Believe me, they aren't nice about it..
Vice versa is not the case.
You guys can't even diss pagans. You let them into St Peter's Square to worship their demons. Of course you can't bash us. I'm not here to be nice for nice sake. Your worship is demonic. Repent.
@@BarbaPamino No we don't. Show me pagan idols that are being worshipped??? Anyways have fun with your priestesses being ordained lol
@@michaelwachira8484 don't the EO have ordained deaconesses now? Meanwhile Francis reaffirms there will be no female ordination in his 60 minutes interview
@conceptualemiliohaving a charitable heart is emotional now? The only thing that unites Orthodoxy is hate towards Catholicism, i say this from firsthand experience. Eastern Orthodox are just another branch of the Manosphere lmao.
I have never heard or seen an Eastern Orthodox Faithful “diss” the Catholic faith. Can you provide a resource?
I appreciate the video! Thank you!
Great video, really enjoyed it.
Im thankful and blessed to be Catholic, waking up everyday i give thanks to God for his One True Church The Catholic 🇻🇦 Church and for having the opportunity to be part of his body, greatest thing for me in life.
Deo gratias! I love our beautiful Church also. God bless
Valid answers 👍🏽 keep up your good work, brother.
How can they think purgatory is too Latin if ancient Greek fathers believed in it? because Greece is Latin as well.. the Greek language itself is Latin
No early church father in history ever believed in purgatory (which is a post-schism latin invented concept). However the early church fathers, and the Orthodox Church prays for the dead and we do believe in a purification process, just not purgatory.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIWhat do you think purgatory is?
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II like much Orthodox theology it’s basically contrarian Catholicism but ends up saying almost the same thing. Note: almost. Also Tollhouse are completely unscriptural and non patristic yet some Priests will teach it because Orthodoxy is whatever you want it to be at the end of the day
@@animals_are_alive my reply looks like it's deleted, please let me know if you can see it on your end
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II can’t see it but not too interested in debate because from your comments I can tell you’re only quoting biased Orthodox scholars and pop Orthodox apologetics. I think if you do more research on the East you’ll find a history of meddling with the Papacy that isn’t coincidence and is quite malicious. The Pope of the East is just the king of the world, the emperor. Don’t think Jesus wanted that no matter how much the history has been altered to make these emperors look “holy”
Great work William! Stellar points.
God bless you and your family brother. Peace be with you! Hope you’re enjoying your lifting and making progress too 💪
So blessed to be Catholic🙏
Amazing show
Superb show. Thank you!
My #1 reason for not being Eastern Orthodox (besides the fact that I find its online iteration extremely repugnant) is this: The Catholic Church evangelized the entire world, thereby obeying the Great Commission. The Eastern Orthodox didn't.
St John describes "a great throng, which no man could number, from *every* nation, tribe, and tongue." This perfectly describes the Catholic Church. It does not describe either Orthodoxy or Protestantism.
The parable of the mustard seed and the parable of the yeast are clear enough: the Church will be worldwide and worked through every society and people. Only the Catholic Church has done this.
This is a big one for me too. The truly universal, standardized way to Christ laid out in plain sight with high accessibility worldwide.
To me I just can’t ignore that astronomical claim to authority over the confusing ethnocentric silos of orthodoxy
I had to comment because this is an overlooked point and one of the reasons I'm not Orthodox or protestant. Bashing other members of the body of Christ seems not only wrong but contrary to the goal when there are still so many who aren't even saved into the faith yet.
If that's your reasoning for choosing Catholicism over Orthodoxy, then by that logic, you would've been a Nestorian between the 9th and 14th centuries, since the Church of the East (Nestorians) was the world's largest church in both numbers and geographical extent, spreading the gospel to unimaginable parts of the world. Sunni Islam has 1.7 billion followers vs Catholicisms 1.3 billion, does that mean we should all become Sunni Islam? During the Arian Controversy, there were way more Arians (layman and clergy) than non-Arians. Also, just like islam, Catholicism spread by the sword 🗡️ ⚔️ 🩸☠️, especially in all the former French, Spainish and Portuguese colonies. Speaking of Islam, the Catholic Church believes that Muslims and Catholics worship the same God, since Vatican 2, and so by yours and the Catholic church's logic, its a safer bet to be a Muslim than a Catholic.
@@jordanp3470 To bash ethnic Churches, is to bash the early Church, and even Catholicism itself. Roman Catholic Churchs used to also defined by ethnicity (Polish Catholic Church, Irish Catholic Church, etc). Back when Rome was still orthodox, all the churches were identified by their local names (even the bible refers to them that way). For example, Church of Rome, Church of Ephesus, Church of Corinth, Church of Alexandria, etc... The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Orthodox Church is the only unchanged Church that has preserved the original ways and teachings. It was the patriarch of Rome who departed from the 7 other bishops/patriarchs (Rome vs Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem Bulgaria, Georgia, Cyprus).
William i tried to dialog with some Eastern Orthodox brothers telling them we need to unite but they said no way because they consider us Catholics as heretics.
Please understand that this message isn't to bash the Roman Church, but instead to give you the opinion most of us Orthodox have 👍🙏
Most of us Orthodox definitely desire unity, but yes, it's true that we most certainly do view Papism as heretical, as did the other 7 bishops/Patriarchs vs the 1 Patriarch of Rome at the time of the Great Schism. In Orthodoxy, it's commonly taught (especially from our saints) that the Roman Church is the first protestant church in history, thats why many call it the "Papist Protestant Church".
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIyou wanna know what is heretical? Having your monks copying practices of eastern pagan religions and implementing that into your "orthodoxy", and then having to change your WHOLE CONCEPT OF GOD because of it, we don't have that problem, submit to Rome
@@Victóriadosantosandrade70 if it's the essence energy distinction that you are talking about then you just insulted the eastern rite Catholics, since they also believe in that. Even by Catholic standards, the current Pope is a heretic, didn't you see his latest comment about all religions being a way to God? Besides,why would we ever submit to this heretical Pope when even the Catholic Church agrees that papal supremacy didn't exist for the first 1000 years of the Church, just read paragraph 19 of the Vatican document called the Chieti document.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIif modern day orthodox reject papalism but yet your own councils, patriarchs and saints affirm it and submit to it. Then… who’s right and who’s wrong . Your issue isn’t with Rome or the Pope. Your issue is within your own churches and how distorted it’s becomes.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_IIand to speak on unity EO drives further and further from unity as they don’t agree on much doctrinal issues let alone reject the teachings of their own saints and councils.
Unity begins within your own church first and reconciling doctrine and then try looking at the speak in others eyes.
Hey brother! What happened with the response to Edgar Pacheco? We Hispanic Catholics were hipped about it
It got moved cause I had double booked shows!
@@WilliamAlbrecht got it! Thank you
For the glory of God , and his Holy Church, that response would help a lot, thank you William.
No le hagas mucho caso a pacheco, gente como el que escupe billis y es tan anticatolico solo usa artimañas para escapar o sacar citas de contexto
@@WilliamAlbrecht Respond to him, that would be amazing!!!!
Hows that papacy going is he clarfying issues for yall?
@@sinfulyetsaved Yes. I asked him what’s up with your hilarious playlist entitled: “Sexy time” and he said you get the best sexy time alone in your room giggling as you shadow box people you’d never dare even approach in real life. Stay salty and single, son.
Best intro of any youtuber. Great explanation, brother.
This was actually a pretty fantastic video with some points that do NOT usually get brought up but they certainly should be more often.
Great show brother
I love both churches and won't bash either of them, which is actually one of the reasons I went with the Catholic Church. It seemed like the orthodox church I enquired with and visited, wanted me to be anti- Catholic, and I couldn't, in all honesty, do that to her. Their priest also gave me a lot of reasons why he thought I might not want to join their church, none of which had to do with theology. The Catholic priest I met with, asked if I would like to do RCIA classes with him, I said yes, ended up being baptised, and confirmed this Easter vigil 🤍 ✝️
Glory to God, welcome Home. I love both also and I’ll keep pressing for union. Some have joined as Eastern Catholics, so maybe the prayers are working. Anyways God bless you
@@CommonSenseChrist thank you ☺️ it really has felt like coming home. I want unity as well, I think we need it more than ever. God bless you 🙏🏼
Welcome home.
VIVA CRISTO REY!!!!
I think you need to write a book about this topic. Appreciate your video learned a lot.
The hatred of Augustine EOs have is actually from an 80s paper called I think the river of Fire. Still fairly recent but it's not a sudden hate
Actually we don't hate him at all. If we hated him we wouldn’t call him “Blessed Augustine”. But not everything he wrote was in agreeance with Orthodox teachings.
@@spikestoyou He was clearly Roman Catholic.
@@-catholic He’s a saint in the catholic church and is considered a saint in the orthodox church. And at the time, the two churches were still one. The church’s position is that he erred on a few things in his humanity but was still imbued with holiness. Had he been shown his error at the time, he may have corrected himself but yes he was more influenced by, and influential to, western christianity and the latins during his time. He is still venerated by the Orthodox despite his detractors in the church, as is the case sometimes with various Saints throughout history.
@@spikestoyou There is only 1 Church. Eastern Orthodoxy is not a true Church.
You speak for yourself when you say you don't hate him. The massive majority of online Ortho community(which DOMINATE the popular waves) trash him to no end. I applaud you for being more Orthodox than the community that sticks out of the most online. I agree with what you have said about St. Augustine @@spikestoyou
Great information
Do you have any debates where your positions are chalanged?
At it again W.A..God bless! proving with sources & references that the Catholic faith is on solid ground with too much of EO being novelty in much doctrine & dogmas.
Novelty.? YOu are heretic even to the Latins as old fart of your stated following: "These [orthodox] churches have an authentic doctrine, but it is static, petrified as it were. They remain faithful to the tradition of the first Christian millennium, but they reject later developments" - Benedict XVI
Thought you guys were going on Sam Shamoun channel for Catholic view on christology? When is that happening
We are. Soon
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Sam did a video saying how the majesterial reformers approached eastern orthodox but were turned away. You're saying they accepted them =S
Paying attention must be a tough thing, brother. Magisterial Reformers weren't around when EO bent the knee to Calvinism. Context is really key, brother.
I'll make a daring bet and say that none of the big orthobro channels will do a "rebuttal" to this video.
Those big channels have guys that are playing connect 4 while we are translating their own Saints from Greek to English. I don’t take them seriously one bit.
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Brother, dont fall into pride. There is always someone smarter.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II My friend and brother-I was referring to the Orthobros that are hopelessly awful at theology. I co chair the largest Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholic conference every 2 years. Every single scholar there is better than Me. Understand context, brother.
William, great video. I wonder what Dyer would say? I mean though I find his articulation hard to understand, he is a strong EO apologist. Have you talked/debated with him since this video? Thank you again for this bc as a Catholic we need the full context and understanding of our faith. Merry Christmas!!!!
We, Orthodox, could not care less as to what some heretical video claims. Why Orthobros should waste their time with this rubbish.?
Hi brother William is it true that the Eastern Orthodox reconciliation in the year 1438. Unfortunately that reconciliation didn't go as far as it could have. There were some churches that came back but in the 1450s the EO left the church again under some social pressure under pressure from Muslims and under pressure W/E Split 1054 the Latin creed.
EO has never and never will join Latins' heretical group. What you describe is process of purifying Lord's Bride at that time that needed to happen as it was full of traitors. We tossed out them and Orthodoxy continued refreshed and strong in Truth that some Bishops were perverting.
Great explanation. Thank you
Thank God #Christian
Wow very good video and praying for unity. Oh and the music ❤
I have attended many Orthodox services and read copious amounts of books on Orthodoxy. Mostly purchased from St.Tikhons and St.Vladimirs seminary bookstores. I am a pretrib, kjv guy. I really enjoy the eastern Orthodox liturgical services and the beautiful churches. But can't honestly swallow some of the doctrines.
Which doctrines can't you swollow? Everything the Orthodox Church teaches was taught by the early church as well, no doctrinal innovations.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II The amount of doctrinal innovations in EO is shocking. It’s hilarious you ask this without even watching the video. You have been duped into believing EO has not evolved. It is present even in their pan Orthodox synods. Time to wake up
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II Thats your excuse for not having the capacity to convoke an ecumencial council?
Arch-heretic of Rome stated otherwise... "These [orthodox] churches have an authentic doctrine, but it is static, petrified as it were. They remain faithful to the tradition of the first Christian millennium, but they reject later developments" - Benedict XVI
So, you are heretic not just to us, Orthodox, but to the Latins as well as they believe Orthodoxy maintains original doctrines.!
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II praying to saint, praying to Mary, confessing to a priest, amellenialism, kissing icons. There are more. This is just a few unbiblical teachings and practices. Jesus taught that it is only thru him that there is salvation. The early church piled on many man contrived traditions that have no basis in Christianity. Practices condoned by many of the "early church fathers" such as Origen. Who it is acknowledged, taught many heresies.
I've been studying St. John Chrysostom and it's clear what his stance was on who St Peter was and who he is etc. Despite what revisionist history both s8des say it is clear that all patriarchates in the 1st millennium deferred to the Bishop of Rome and knew that the apostolic throne resided there. St. J Chrysostom refertopopoe Innocent as his holy master and is writing to him for aid, comfort and spiritual leadership to which his response is authoritative as one would expect. Be not fooled by ecumenists downplaying or denying such letters, homilies and other sayings that clearly give the true history of the papacy and the Church in that time.
The papacy was different before the skisem. Equating the post skisem papacy with pre skisem is a category error.
Have you ever read Chieti document that you can find on Vatican website.? It states... Appeals to the bishop of Rome from the East expressed the communion of the Church, but the BISHOP OF ROME DID NOT EXERCISE CANONICAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CHURCHES OF THE EAST. - Synodality And Primacy During The First Millennium, Chieti, 21 September 2016
OUCH.!
@ yeah I have and funnily enough this biased revisionist history from the Vatican for the sake of ecumenism with EOs is just trash.
The Vatican since V2 council this Masonic regime has had as their overarching desire to make the Catholic Church a synodal 💩show like the EOs is just false, with religious indifferentism as the goal.
This political document is historically false and is independently verifiable.
If you want to believe in it go ahead but the document is a political one. One again designed to make concessions to the EO church. This was never typical prior to Vatican 2.
Ouch!
Which EO scholars do you respect?
Ramsey, Cleenewerck, Pino, John d., bucur
Orthodox Holy Fathers are best scholars and yet... none is on the list.
This wasn't good. Try to stay more on point. Papal supremacy is a good key divider. Explore it more. Don't just quote a bunch of lines from the Bible assuming that all who read will see it as affirming papal supremacy. If that was the case, there would be no protestant denominations. Try to clarify your own position as to why do you believe that those passages, for example, show papal supremacy.
Do the same for the councils you cite. Read the excerpts from them and show they only a confused mind would reject papal supremacy. As is, you merely assert that all these things do so, without presenting any evidence for your position. Thank you for reading and have a nice day!
If you read the acts in the Bible you would see that all the countries mentioned there that apostols visit are orthodox except Rome which is catholic and if you read the history you'll see that they split from orthodoxy in 1054.
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I would love to see you and Jay dyer debate 😊
To be fair to the Orthodox, they use ‘Blessed’ as another title for a saint, such as for Augustine and others. Just as St Bede is often called Venerable Bede. It doesn’t imply an inferiority in any way as they don’t have a ‘beatification’ step on the path to sainthood but simply canonisation or glorification. I’m Melkite but attend an Antiochian Orthodox parish since I live so far from the nearest Greek Catholic parish. We’re allowed to fulfil our obligation here, per the rules of our Eparchy.
My video was pretty clear that this is basically the online breed and the ON THE BOOTS actual scholars don't spread this silly delusion.
@@WilliamAlbrecht yes I understand that, just pointing out that often the Orthodox will use titles like Blessed or Venerable for their saints. Also to be fair, many Orthodox sincerely respect and venerate St Augustine for his holiness and piety, but do not fully embrace all his theological views, especially on predestination and original sin. Fr. Seraphim Rose wrote a book explaining this. Their main critique is that the Latin Church embraces too much of his erroneous views, instead of accepting the consensus of the Fathers, where an individual Father makes an error. Also to note, if I recall, Augustine’s works weren’t translated into Greek until much later, so it’s possible his ideas were mistranslated causing some confusion and misunderstanding.
@@ΆγιοςΙερώνυμος-χ2γ You are incorrect to posit that St. Augustine had diverging views on both predestination and original sin. On both of these views he held the majority Patristic view. His views on original sin are right in line with the classical Greek Fathers and the enshrined teaching at the North African Code. Contrary to famous protestant polemics, St. Augustine never taught original guilt and the so called Orthodox that malign the great Augustine's name do so out of ignorance.
@@WilliamAlbrecht could you prove where Augustine was consistent with the Greek Fathers on original sin and predestination? I'm no expert in this subject area, but every Orthodox writer I've read has stated that he taught original guilt which was in contrast to the view of 'ancestral sin' in the East. Every Orthodox priest I've talked to tells me that Augustine was erroneous on those two views, and Fr.Romanides if I recall, goes to an extreme on slandering all things related to St.Augustine.
@@ΆγιοςΙερώνυμος-χ2γ Why would anyone waste a second reading the dreadful Romanides? I deal with St. Augustine in depth in my original series shows as well as my debate against EO scholar Father Ramsey. Go check that out.
Why are they apostolic yet they are not with Peter?
Schism
They have Apostolic Succession because their bishops can trace their lineage to the Apostles, therefore they do have valid orders.
However, because they are in schism, they have forfeited their ability to carry out the ministry of the Church because they lack Jurisdiction, as they have forfeited the power of the keys because of their schism.
The Orthodox Church of Antioch traces their lineage to Peter
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Show me one document from tradition or Ecumenical council where your heretical ecclesiological terminology of Autokefali was used and defined. Its nowhere. Your heretical sect invented this heresy of National Autocephalous sects.
The Alexandrian document? 😆😆
Of course the Vatican II sect loves you heretics.
@@TsarOrthodoxBro_II
The See of Constantinople didn't even exist at the time of the council of Nicaea in 325. 😄😄
Your schismatic "Ecumenical Patriarch" of Constantinople wasn't even a Patriarchal See until Chalcedon in 451 AD.
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No Filioque, No Monotheism.
To deny the eternal Hypostatic procession of the Holy Spirit from both the Father and Son, and reduce the Holy Spirit's procession from the Son as a mere temporal energetic procession, which posits a real distinction between the Essence and uncreated energies of God, you have created 2 gods.
@EasternChristian333
Wrong, the Holy Spirit proceeds from both the Father and Son as taught by the Fathers. Cyril of Alexandria's 3rd letter to Nestorius teaches the Filioque, a letter accepted at Ephesus. Apocalypse of John 22:1 was shown to the Schismatic Greeks twice at Lyons in 1274 and Florence and accepted the Filioque just to return to their vomit.
You are a heretic, you don't have a clue what you are talking about
@EasternChristian333
The schismatic Greeks are blasphemers of the Holy Spirit for rejecting the Filioque. God destroyed your schismatic empire on May 29th 1453, which was the feast of the Holy Spirit, Pentecost Sunday for blaspheming the Holy Spirit for rejecting Florence.
There is no such heresy as a temporal energetic procession of the Holy Spirit from the Son, or an eternal manifestation of the Holy Spirit from the Son. The intratrinitarian operations of the Hypostases with the Godhead are eternal, never temporal.
@EasternChristian333
The Filioque is a defined dogma where all Catholics regardless of rite must with divine and Catholic faith assent to.
Eastern Catholics do not have to recite the Filioque but must with divine and Catholic faith believe it.
This is not debatable. Whomever is giving you this information is wrong.
More Jay Dyer propaganda
Y-h-v-h is God
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I agree with you on 3 of your reasons and I even agree that Orthodox that reject the deuterocanon are downright heretical.
But I do not mind their larger canon.
There’s nothing wrong with appreciating the other books as edifying, but canonical they are not
Although God is infintely powerful, He was totally incapable of making a more perfected mother.❤
little by little we will see the error Rome has fallen into. It is a shame, I hope Rome repents and joins back with the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Orthodox Church of Christ.
Nop, actually the easterns churches are the ones retunring to communion with the primacy of Rome, the easterns Churches, they include like 8% of the EO population, overall, a good job
@@J.R2023 Nuh... Orthodox will never unite with the old fart, unless he repents and confesses Orthodox faith. If some Orthodox fall (God forbid) and proclaim union with old fart, they will at that point cease to be Orthodox and will become Uniates, while those who do not accept to ne united with heretical Rome and old fart will remain Orthodox. So the Orthodoxy will live on as Lord promised His Church be pillar and ground of truth and that gates of Hades will not prevail over it. Stay tuned.
The problem is the church is on apostasy we must obey the Catholic faith
You alone can judge the Holy See and find it guilty of Apostasy? Interesting.
They are mean you are just blunt. Lol the hypocrisy.
Another Catholic TH-camr with no issue trying to bring up issues with other churches but is weirdly silent about being lead by a heretical pope.
Orthodox can’t judge their own Hierarchs but they can judge the Hierarchs of others? For the record I know what Pope Francis is and represents, doesn’t make the doctrine invalid.
@@animals_are_alive Oh yes, we can and we do speak whenever we see heretical moves regardless of who is the fallen one and what title one holds. You have no idea what Orthodoxy is. Your old fart is outright heretic. So are all Ecumenists that are still claiming to be Orthodox. Purge process of Lord's Bride will, God willing, start soon and all those heretics will be thrown out and most likely join your heretical group.
Cope, the livestream.😆
@@andrewg37 You can't blame anyone else for your choices.
I love it when Orthobros like you still act like brain dead evangelicals and manifest
if you actually had love in your heart you would pray for the Conversion of heretical Christians
Instead you are treating Orthodoxy like a football team.
hello william can you update me on when it will be possible to add me to the whatsapp group? i already gave you my phone number and my details around 2 months ago but so far nothing has been done. please tell me what is going on and how long must i wait?