I love the thumbnail for this, but yeah Elemental is actually doing a lot better at the box office currently from the positive word of mouth compared to its opening weekend, way to go Pixarians! We can make this movie a success!
Sometimes I kinda have a feel that Animat is trying to defend Disney but that is actually cleared off when he does give valid points like, "box office numbers doesn't mean it won't be a success" Look at Peanuts Movie and Iron Giant, those are great examples for that.
This "Pixar is failing" statement is exactly from the same kind of people who spew out rhetoric thinking that Hollywood is gonna DIE from all these flops, and I can assure you, THIS AIN'T THEIR FIRST RODEO, ITS BEEN AROUND FOR 100 YEARS, IT'LL BE AROUND FOR 100 MORE!
OMG! Thank you, AniMat for calling out those toxic fanboys that blame Pixar’s lack of box office success on John Lasseter’s firing. It really needed to be said and I’m just happy to see you calling them out as well as just hearing your piece on it since this has been something that was annoying me for months in seeing many similar complaints in comment sections on TH-cam related to Elemental’s first opening weekend doing poorly and just jumping to the conclusion that it would be another box office flop like Lightyear. Those fanboys and casual TH-cam users are just frigging idiots! And I do agree that they don’t really know what they want because Lasseter coming back wouldn’t even fix Pixar’s “current dilemmas”, completely forgetting or intentionally ignoring the problems that Pixar went through with their films even during John Lasseter’s time as Chief Creative Officer at Disney and Pixar and probably caused by him. He might even be the reason why Pixar’s original films in the last decade like Brave and The Good Dinosaur ended up with the reputation they have now and why The Good Dinosaur bombed at the box office. Heck, the same effect he had on those films might’ve carried over to the films from this decade like Luca and especially Turning Red considering that one is directed by an Asian woman and we all know John’s poor treatment of his female employees and those films wouldn’t be the critically acclaimed films we know then today. So again, thank you AniMat for calling out the Pixar fanboys for their toxic views on the current era of Pixar just because one troublesome figure was ousted.
@hunterolaughlin I basically agree with everything you said, except for claiming that John Lasseter is an actual predator. Dude, anyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by a simple hug, it's their fault for not telling him. I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
@@Optimegatrongodzilla There’s a DIFFERENCE between simply hugging your employees out of friendship and love and hugging them in a drunken state without their consent as well as kissing them. Those were no ordinary hugs. Those were the hugs of a drunken pervert!
@@Optimegatrongodzilla Read the sources. That’s what it’s said he did. If you’re going to continue denying the truth of John’s actions being heinous and sugarcoat it to be less so, then you can go back to the playground and play in the sandbox until you’re ready to act like an adult.
I really appreciate you talking about this because this has been driving me crazy over the past several months (especially recently with how Elemental has been treated by people). I know EXACTLY what you are talking about when it comes to those videos from people I've seen ("Pixar is in a Crisis," "The Pitfall Downfall of Pixar," etc.)! This truly is such a big exaggeration and they certainly have not "lost their touch" when it comes to the quality of their films. It's absolutely crazy to me that numbers in terms of box office is apparently the deciding factor for how we are judging the film itself when it's certainly not the only thing we should be paying attention to and just because a film does not making a lot of money does not mean it's a bad film or that it does not have quality whatsoever. I was very sad when the pandemic severely impacted the plans to release Soul, Luca, and Turning Red into theaters, but I watched and loved all 3 of them when I saw them on Disney+ (especially Soul, which is in my top 5 favorite Pixar films in general and Luca I also really loved and is in my top 10 and admire so much of how delightful and heartwarming it was as a film focused on the friendship of 3 kids during 1 summer in Italy). I also loved Elemental when I went to go see it in theaters recently and I'm glad that its box office numbers is sightly improving and the word of mouth has been helping more people give it a chance and actually watch it. I don't see Pixar going away by any means and it's very disingenuous when people put the blame on them for some of their recent films going onto Disney+ as if it's their fault for why their films have bombed recently and thus they are at fault for training people to wait for their films to go on Disney+ when it's like, "You realize that we were dealing with a dire situation with a worldwide pandemic? What else were they supposed to do? What other option did they have? Wait 2-4 years and then release them later in theaters when we didn't even know the state of the world was going to be like after 2020?"
I WAS starting to worry after the layoffs and Elemental's bad opening, but now I have a bit more hope after noticing that Elemental actually has a bit of staying power.
Let’s not forget that John Lasseter is also responsible for being the director of Cars 2, which is so far Pixar’s first and only critical failure. In part 5 of Animation Lookback: Pixar, you mentioned that the spy story idea that would’ve been seen as a movie Lightning McQueen and Sally were watching during the first Cars was stuck in his head for a long time that he incorporated the spy theme in the second film. Plus the spy story movie that McQueen and Sally watched during a date was from a deleted scene from the 1st film.
Let's also not forget his involvement in Luck's production (and Skydance Animation as a whole). Aside from John's stupid ass just being there (which was already a major red flag), the entire script went through major rewrites and in the end just became a mediocre Monsters Inc clone. The film was so shitty and forgettable that the production behind it was a more interesting story than the feature itself.
@@Waltman13 sad but true. Based on how Luck came out, don’t expect people to have high hopes for their next movies like Spellbound which will come out next year. It also doesn’t help either that Spellbound is written by the same person who wrote Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland films and Maleficent films, Linda Wolverton. It’s another major red flag
@@egateqa1351 true true. And they still liked the animation, spy action scenes, race scenes, and voice acting from that movie. Cars 2 did managed to make more than $500 million at the box office
7:31 - 9:53 Besides The Little Mermaid remake, Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 is also another Disney movie that was a major hit too! It’s great that Elemental is performing better than other films like The Flash. It’s been recently reported that South Korea embraced Elemental very well so much so that that the box office performance in that country was successful
@@danielgudinojuarez6729yeah. They loved its ability to appeal to multiple generations and that loved fact that the movie’s story is based on Peter Sohn’s (the film’s director) own Korean American background
All I can say is I'm glad "Elemental" is improving at the box office, most of Pixar's recent films are still great, and the studio is much better off without you-know-who.
Another element I would say makes or breaks a movie’s performance nowadays is public word of mouth. As AniMat says, we live in a reactionary society where people do things or form opinions without taking in critical thinking. Because of that, people are immediately going to assume that a movie is “worth watching” or “not worth watching” without forming their own opinion. With Elemental, people are mainly saying that it’s “good” or “cute”. The thing is, however, that’s no longer good enough for people. Movie theaters have hefty ticket and concession prices, so if people want to see a movie, they’ll want to see one that they think is worth it. So when people started ranting and raving about movies like The Mario Bros or Across the Spiderverse, more people were eager to see it. This is why their box office scores are skyrocketing and people are still discussing these movies till this day. This also benefits in their overall popularity and how people view them, while other flicks such as Elemental or Ruby Gilman: Teenage Kraken don’t have that same effect. Pixar is not suffering. They’re just in a hiccup. Their next movie, however, would probably have to be something revolutionary if they want to see higher results.
Oh no! Those fanboys are definitely going to get in trouble if they copy John Lasseter’s actions, especially his hugging women without their consent while drunk. I have no hope for their futures if that’s the case. 🤦♂️
@mrsstraightman2806 Anyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing with John Lasseter was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by a simple hug, it's their fault for not telling him. I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
When you were bringing up Pixar, I honestly thought you're gonna talk about the Pixar series for disney+ called Win Or Lose getting canceled due to Elemental's box office flop. Apparently those people who think Pixar is failing because of John lasseter not being here is nonsense. 1) John Lasseter deserved to kicked out after his treatment to his employees. 2) Pixar was struggling in the 2010's as well(not to mention the good dinosaur being a box office bomb)& 3) John Lasseter green lit lightyear to exist.
I hope Pixar’s Win Or Loose still happens. I would LOVE to see Pixar expanding their storytelling skills and ability to deliver heartwarming moments balanced with some good humor to a long form series and there’s great potential with Win Or Lose.
Win or Loose isn't cancelled. The thing is that what's actually cancelled is the follow up series after Win or Loose which according to Pixar heads its going to possibly be a feature film
@QueenB-lzebub Anyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing with John Lasseter was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by a simple hug, it's their fault for not telling him. I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
0:21 If Elemental made more than Flash (mostly thanks to word of mouth and great audience reception), then I’m very confident that Wish will be a bigger success than Hunger Games: Songbirds and Snakes and The Marvels this November.
Yeah, especially since Wish have all the things that we Disney fans has wants (Talking animal sidekick, real legit villain, interesting combo of modern 3D animation and 2D watercolor look similiar to many old disney concept art and film). Not to mention Wish is a musical set in a fantasy world centering around what can be a very disney theme, wish.
It probably won't be long until the new Disney hot take is "John Lasseter would've saved Disney from going woke" as if he had any control over any part of Disney outside of WDAS and Pixar instead of Iger or Chapek.
Yeah given the fact that Skydance did NOT make a great first impression with Luck with Lassester being the cause of the movie’s story problems, i also don’t think it’s a guarantee that people will have hopes for their next movies like Spellbound. Speaking of which, Linda Wolverton, who wrote Tim Burton’s Alice in wonderland movies and Maleficent movies, is the writer of Spellbound. That’s also another major red flag besides the fact that Lasseter is involved. I love Alan Menken and all but i don’t think his music skills would save the movie from being criticized just like last year’s Disenchanted. And yeah you’re right, bringing John back to Disney Animation and Pixar would not solve anything whatsoever
"Lasseter would have never let Lightyear happen" my brother in Christ, John Lasseter let Cars 2 happen (a film that is objectively MUCH worse than Lightyear), what exactly is your point?
@@TexRabbitAnyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing with John Lasseter was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people that he had worked with for *years* , and people who've been co-workers for a long time becoming friends and hugging each other is a very common thing from what I gather. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by him hugging them, it's their fault for not telling him. It's not like the man is psychic! I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal! Also, 'Cars 2' isn't that bad! Come on!
No matter what you might think of Moviebob; he’s right when he says Box Office is not the only factor in how well a film does. Especially when a plague’s refusing to leave.
The pandemic played a big role hurting Pixar in the financial aspect that lead three of their acclaim films going to Disney+ while the last two films including Elemental underperform at the box office because the aftermath of Disney+ release and it’ll take time for audiences to slowly return to see their movies on the big screen like it was from the pre pandemic however it didn’t hurt them on the storytelling quality as most of the their films like Soul were mostly acclaimed so the whole “Pixar is struggling” is but complete nonsense. Although I am worry when SaberSpark is planning release the “What Ruined Pixar” video in the future because I feel like that will add more fire in making things worse.
I think that when people say “Pixar is struggling”, they more so mean that the circumstances in the past (mainly the pandemic and how Disney handled the Pixar movies compared to movies from Disney Animation, the remakes, Marvel, etc) are screwing Pixar over. Because three of their films went straight to Disney+, it sort of instilled a habit for people to just wait for the film to come to Disney+ rather than splurge money onto a theater experience. It makes sense why Disney did the strategy regarding the pandemic, but the fact that the habit was instilled due to this still stands. You are correct though, the situation didn’t exactly hurt Pixar in a storytelling perspective. There were duds, sure, but Soul was fantastic and Luca is one of my personal favorites from Pixar. The thing is, though, Elemental was mainly perceived as “good” and “cute”. I haven’t seen the movie so I can’t form my own opinion, but that public word of mouth might simply not be good enough for people nowadays. If they want to spend the hefty prices of a ticket and concession snacks, they’d want to see a movie that they think is worth their time. I experienced that firsthand when my brother and cousin would much rather see Across the Spiderverse for a second time rather than anything else.
While yes Pixar isn’t going away the thing is, Disney isn’t helpful with its marketing; the films lately released lacked any interest, while other studios like DreamWorks were able to drive you in, and that’s how it’s successful. None of the trailers for these latest Disney and Pixar projects are drawing people in. Even with a few successes and ridiculously large budgets, they aren't winning people over as much as they used to.
And I also think screen rant is also stupid for saying that Pixar is losing their magic just because of the bad opening of elemental even though it’s doing much better now actually and also, I think they are just panicking over nothing actually!!!!
@@cindydillard1825 the current chief creative officer of Walt Disney Animation Studios. She got this job after John was kicked out of Disney Animation. She’s the co-director and co-writer of Frozen 1 and 2, and she co-wrote Wreck it Ralph and the upcoming Wish
Am I the only one who saw Elemental more than once in theaters? I saw it a 2nd time just yesterday and unpopular opinion but it's a top tier Pixar. It's the Pixar movie that feels the most personal to me.
The fact that they forgetting that DreamWorks, right before the Bad Guys and The Last Wish, they can't remember that They make mediocre to bad movies (Boss Baby, Trolls, etc) Makes bad shows (The Nine Realms), And sure, they mock Disney, BUT THEY PLAGIARIZED THE ART STYLE FROM THEM (Kelsey from Ruby Gillman)
The thing is Pixar’s and Disney latest out put is either mediocre and ok at best, even if they have a few gems it’s not enough to draw people in, say what you will about DreamWorks at least their latest films look more interesting in terms of its marketability
A lot has changed after Inside Out 2 became a HUGE success giving Pixar the pick me up they deserve after everything they went through in the past 4 years
TBF, I’m kinda getting sick of this narrative on Pixar’s future solely based on the divisiveness of Lightyear. Pixar has definitely had struggles, but considering the pandemic and Bob Chapek’s mishandling of Disney as a whole, it’s not completely unnatural. But considering more often than not, the rhetoric about “Lightyear not being good” is more often than not brought up in regards to Pixar’s standing, I heavily question if some of these people know how situations like these actually work.
Honestly, I’m starting to like watching movies after they leave the theater. Because once they’re on DVD and streaming, nobody talks about box office numbers or reviews. Instead, people watch the movies for the reasons they’re supposed to be watched: as an escape from reality.
The more you look at the yo-yo that is the entertainment industry, not many commentators on it know what &/or how to write about it for their jobs. …unless you make up something to write about.
Just when you can't make the decision on pannels for comic con this year. In fact, Pixar has a problem that they need to deal with in the future. Especially ever since former CEO John Lasseter got the boot in 2018. Their animation rivals are doing better than them right now.
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I love the thumbnail for this, but yeah Elemental is actually doing a lot better at the box office currently from the positive word of mouth compared to its opening weekend, way to go Pixarians! We can make this movie a success!
"John Lasseter wouldn't let lightyear happen"
John Lasseter greenlight lightyear.
Yes but he didnt oversee or make it.
Sometimes I kinda have a feel that Animat is trying to defend Disney but that is actually cleared off when he does give valid points like, "box office numbers doesn't mean it won't be a success" Look at Peanuts Movie and Iron Giant, those are great examples for that.
Same
I don't see Pixar going away anytime soon. They'll still have flops like any other studio, but they won't stop making phenomenal movies
That's true and as long as good word of mouth spreads in terms of their future releases, then they'll be okay in the theaters and on Disney plus 🙂🙂🙂
True
Correction: They won’t stop making movies that people find phenomenal, like any other studio.
@@egateqa1351 ...
@@egateqa1351 Yikes
Can people just leave Pete Docter alone? It made so much sense why he left social media.
He did? Good for him!
Poor guy!! 😭
Damn! It’s gotten THAT bad?
Yeah he did nothing wrong
Yeah, and can they leave Jennifer Lee alone too?
This "Pixar is failing" statement is exactly from the same kind of people who spew out rhetoric thinking that Hollywood is gonna DIE from all these flops, and I can assure you, THIS AIN'T THEIR FIRST RODEO, ITS BEEN AROUND FOR 100 YEARS, IT'LL BE AROUND FOR 100 MORE!
OMG! Thank you, AniMat for calling out those toxic fanboys that blame Pixar’s lack of box office success on John Lasseter’s firing. It really needed to be said and I’m just happy to see you calling them out as well as just hearing your piece on it since this has been something that was annoying me for months in seeing many similar complaints in comment sections on TH-cam related to Elemental’s first opening weekend doing poorly and just jumping to the conclusion that it would be another box office flop like Lightyear. Those fanboys and casual TH-cam users are just frigging idiots! And I do agree that they don’t really know what they want because Lasseter coming back wouldn’t even fix Pixar’s “current dilemmas”, completely forgetting or intentionally ignoring the problems that Pixar went through with their films even during John Lasseter’s time as Chief Creative Officer at Disney and Pixar and probably caused by him. He might even be the reason why Pixar’s original films in the last decade like Brave and The Good Dinosaur ended up with the reputation they have now and why The Good Dinosaur bombed at the box office. Heck, the same effect he had on those films might’ve carried over to the films from this decade like Luca and especially Turning Red considering that one is directed by an Asian woman and we all know John’s poor treatment of his female employees and those films wouldn’t be the critically acclaimed films we know then today.
So again, thank you AniMat for calling out the Pixar fanboys for their toxic views on the current era of Pixar just because one troublesome figure was ousted.
@hunterolaughlin
I basically agree with everything you said, except for claiming that John Lasseter is an actual predator. Dude, anyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by a simple hug, it's their fault for not telling him. I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
@@Optimegatrongodzilla There’s a DIFFERENCE between simply hugging your employees out of friendship and love and hugging them in a drunken state without their consent as well as kissing them. Those were no ordinary hugs. Those were the hugs of a drunken pervert!
@@hunterolaughlin 🤦♂️ That didn't happen!
@@Optimegatrongodzilla Read the sources. That’s what it’s said he did. If you’re going to continue denying the truth of John’s actions being heinous and sugarcoat it to be less so, then you can go back to the playground and play in the sandbox until you’re ready to act like an adult.
@@hunterolaughlinThis guy is a pathetic troll who keeps spamming the same comments up and down because he feels his very existence is being attacked.
I really appreciate you talking about this because this has been driving me crazy over the past several months (especially recently with how Elemental has been treated by people). I know EXACTLY what you are talking about when it comes to those videos from people I've seen ("Pixar is in a Crisis," "The Pitfall Downfall of Pixar," etc.)! This truly is such a big exaggeration and they certainly have not "lost their touch" when it comes to the quality of their films. It's absolutely crazy to me that numbers in terms of box office is apparently the deciding factor for how we are judging the film itself when it's certainly not the only thing we should be paying attention to and just because a film does not making a lot of money does not mean it's a bad film or that it does not have quality whatsoever. I was very sad when the pandemic severely impacted the plans to release Soul, Luca, and Turning Red into theaters, but I watched and loved all 3 of them when I saw them on Disney+ (especially Soul, which is in my top 5 favorite Pixar films in general and Luca I also really loved and is in my top 10 and admire so much of how delightful and heartwarming it was as a film focused on the friendship of 3 kids during 1 summer in Italy). I also loved Elemental when I went to go see it in theaters recently and I'm glad that its box office numbers is sightly improving and the word of mouth has been helping more people give it a chance and actually watch it.
I don't see Pixar going away by any means and it's very disingenuous when people put the blame on them for some of their recent films going onto Disney+ as if it's their fault for why their films have bombed recently and thus they are at fault for training people to wait for their films to go on Disney+ when it's like, "You realize that we were dealing with a dire situation with a worldwide pandemic? What else were they supposed to do? What other option did they have? Wait 2-4 years and then release them later in theaters when we didn't even know the state of the world was going to be like after 2020?"
So Pixar had a few struggles
Big deal. Disney and Nickelodeon went through the same thing and they managed to bounce back
I always had a feeling Pixar was…somewhat struggling, but even they were, they’d bounce back pretty quickly.
Box office dose not affect the quality of a movie, The Road to El Dorado is not a bad movie because it flop at the box office.
That film eventually became a cult classic and those people who saw it considers the film one of their favorites from dream works!!! 🥰🥰🥰
@@danielgudinojuarez6729 Hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WAS starting to worry after the layoffs and Elemental's bad opening, but now I have a bit more hope after noticing that Elemental actually has a bit of staying power.
Same here pal!!!
We don't just live In *society* but truly In Planet *MRS. NESBIT!!!!*
Even though I didn't like Onward, Turning Red or Lightyear, I still like Elemental, Luca and Soul.
Honestly I'd take onward,soul,Luca, turning red, lightyear and elemental over encanto (the Disney movie I don't talk about) any day
Let’s not forget that John Lasseter is also responsible for being the director of Cars 2, which is so far Pixar’s first and only critical failure. In part 5 of Animation Lookback: Pixar, you mentioned that the spy story idea that would’ve been seen as a movie Lightning McQueen and Sally were watching during the first Cars was stuck in his head for a long time that he incorporated the spy theme in the second film. Plus the spy story movie that McQueen and Sally watched during a date was from a deleted scene from the 1st film.
Maybe there’s a REASON some deleted scenes should stay deleted.
Let's also not forget his involvement in Luck's production (and Skydance Animation as a whole). Aside from John's stupid ass just being there (which was already a major red flag), the entire script went through major rewrites and in the end just became a mediocre Monsters Inc clone. The film was so shitty and forgettable that the production behind it was a more interesting story than the feature itself.
@@Waltman13 sad but true. Based on how Luck came out, don’t expect people to have high hopes for their next movies like Spellbound which will come out next year. It also doesn’t help either that Spellbound is written by the same person who wrote Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland films and Maleficent films, Linda Wolverton. It’s another major red flag
Cars 2 actually became one of their highest grossing films. It’s the highest grossing Cars movie. And it was actually mixed by critics.
@@egateqa1351 true true. And they still liked the animation, spy action scenes, race scenes, and voice acting from that movie. Cars 2 did managed to make more than $500 million at the box office
7:31 - 9:53 Besides The Little Mermaid remake, Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 is also another Disney movie that was a major hit too! It’s great that Elemental is performing better than other films like The Flash. It’s been recently reported that South Korea embraced Elemental very well so much so that that the box office performance in that country was successful
Oh cool, nice to see that South Korea loves Elemental!!! 🥰🥰🥰
@@danielgudinojuarez6729yeah. They loved its ability to appeal to multiple generations and that loved fact that the movie’s story is based on Peter Sohn’s (the film’s director) own Korean American background
It's a Marvel movie.
@@racheljackson4428 yes and this is not mention that Disney distributed the film since they own Marvel Studios
Lol The Little Mermaid isn’t a hit
Pixar hasn't lost it's touch. It has gotten better. Remember the good dinosaur?
John Lasseter green lit that.
Is it bad that I like the good dinosaur?
@@cindydillard1825 not really. If you like it, that's fine
@@mrstraightman2806
Thank you
@@cindydillard1825 also don't be like john Lasseter.
@@mrstraightman2806
Amen to that!
The thumbnail is meme material
I’m surprised that hasn’t been as much of a meme as the “everywhere” meme.
if pixar bounced back from the good dinosaur, they can bounce back from this
All I can say is I'm glad "Elemental" is improving at the box office, most of Pixar's recent films are still great, and the studio is much better off without you-know-who.
Another element I would say makes or breaks a movie’s performance nowadays is public word of mouth. As AniMat says, we live in a reactionary society where people do things or form opinions without taking in critical thinking. Because of that, people are immediately going to assume that a movie is “worth watching” or “not worth watching” without forming their own opinion.
With Elemental, people are mainly saying that it’s “good” or “cute”. The thing is, however, that’s no longer good enough for people. Movie theaters have hefty ticket and concession prices, so if people want to see a movie, they’ll want to see one that they think is worth it.
So when people started ranting and raving about movies like The Mario Bros or Across the Spiderverse, more people were eager to see it. This is why their box office scores are skyrocketing and people are still discussing these movies till this day. This also benefits in their overall popularity and how people view them, while other flicks such as Elemental or Ruby Gilman: Teenage Kraken don’t have that same effect.
Pixar is not suffering. They’re just in a hiccup. Their next movie, however, would probably have to be something revolutionary if they want to see higher results.
These types of Disney fans love John Lasseter and they would want to do what he did.
Oh no! Those fanboys are definitely going to get in trouble if they copy John Lasseter’s actions, especially his hugging women without their consent while drunk. I have no hope for their futures if that’s the case. 🤦♂️
How would you react if John lasseter had a show called the adventures of John Lasseter and it would be about him being a weirdo
@@georgerobertson7010 I'd probably would blow my brains out
@@hunterolaughlin He wasn't drunk! That's a load of bullshit! Don't believe everything you read on the internet!
@mrsstraightman2806
Anyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing with John Lasseter was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by a simple hug, it's their fault for not telling him. I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
I saw Elemental the other day and I really enjoyed it! It's finally come out here in the UK so hopefully that helps it earn more
When you were bringing up Pixar, I honestly thought you're gonna talk about the Pixar series for disney+ called Win Or Lose getting canceled due to Elemental's box office flop.
Apparently those people who think Pixar is failing because of John lasseter not being here is nonsense. 1) John Lasseter deserved to kicked out after his treatment to his employees. 2) Pixar was struggling in the 2010's as well(not to mention the good dinosaur being a box office bomb)& 3) John Lasseter green lit lightyear to exist.
I hope Pixar’s Win Or Loose still happens. I would LOVE to see Pixar expanding their storytelling skills and ability to deliver heartwarming moments balanced with some good humor to a long form series and there’s great potential with Win Or Lose.
Win or Loose isn't cancelled. The thing is that what's actually cancelled is the follow up series after Win or Loose which according to Pixar heads its going to possibly be a feature film
@@aaronlo9651 That’s good to hear. I would definitely love to check that series out when it comes to Disney+.
@QueenB-lzebub
Anyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing with John Lasseter was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by a simple hug, it's their fault for not telling him. I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
0:21 If Elemental made more than Flash (mostly thanks to word of mouth and great audience reception), then I’m very confident that Wish will be a bigger success than Hunger Games: Songbirds and Snakes and The Marvels this November.
Give me Wish over another film featuring Mary Sues with The Marvels.
@@hunterolaughlin Yeah, and not every Hunger Games book needs a movie. Did Lionsgate not learn from Allegiant’s disastrous box office?
Yeah, especially since Wish have all the things that we Disney fans has wants (Talking animal sidekick, real legit villain, interesting combo of modern 3D animation and 2D watercolor look similiar to many old disney concept art and film). Not to mention Wish is a musical set in a fantasy world centering around what can be a very disney theme, wish.
It probably won't be long until the new Disney hot take is "John Lasseter would've saved Disney from going woke" as if he had any control over any part of Disney outside of WDAS and Pixar instead of Iger or Chapek.
These types of Disney fans are not Disney fans.
Yeah given the fact that Skydance did NOT make a great first impression with Luck with Lassester being the cause of the movie’s story problems, i also don’t think it’s a guarantee that people will have hopes for their next movies like Spellbound. Speaking of which, Linda Wolverton, who wrote Tim Burton’s Alice in wonderland movies and Maleficent movies, is the writer of Spellbound. That’s also another major red flag besides the fact that Lasseter is involved. I love Alan Menken and all but i don’t think his music skills would save the movie from being criticized just like last year’s Disenchanted. And yeah you’re right, bringing John back to Disney Animation and Pixar would not solve anything whatsoever
"Lasseter would have never let Lightyear happen"
my brother in Christ, John Lasseter let Cars 2 happen (a film that is objectively MUCH worse than Lightyear), what exactly is your point?
Facts, defending John Lasseter is a poor argument
@@TexRabbitAnyone with a worthwhile brain could tell you that that whole thing with John Lasseter was blown way out of proportion! If that wasn't the case, he wouldn't still be working in the industry. All he did was hug some people that he had worked with for *years* , and people who've been co-workers for a long time becoming friends and hugging each other is a very common thing from what I gather. If they were somehow made uncomfortable by him hugging them, it's their fault for not telling him. It's not like the man is psychic! I'm so tired of people acting like John Lasseter is some heinous criminal!
Also, 'Cars 2' isn't that bad! Come on!
@Teag_Brohman15
'Cars 2' isn't that bad! Come on!
Also, he was responsible for Pixar disowning the Star Command series.
@@jlev1028 I'm pretty sure that that's just a rumor.
No matter what you might think of Moviebob; he’s right when he says Box Office is not the only factor in how well a film does.
Especially when a plague’s refusing to leave.
Yeah, I'm really getting annoyed at the fact that people are ignoring that the pandemic happened.
Spider man across the spider verse recently beat guardians of the galaxy in terms of box office
The pandemic played a big role hurting Pixar in the financial aspect that lead three of their acclaim films going to Disney+ while the last two films including Elemental underperform at the box office because the aftermath of Disney+ release and it’ll take time for audiences to slowly return to see their movies on the big screen like it was from the pre pandemic however it didn’t hurt them on the storytelling quality as most of the their films like Soul were mostly acclaimed so the whole “Pixar is struggling” is but complete nonsense. Although I am worry when SaberSpark is planning release the “What Ruined Pixar” video in the future because I feel like that will add more fire in making things worse.
I think that when people say “Pixar is struggling”, they more so mean that the circumstances in the past (mainly the pandemic and how Disney handled the Pixar movies compared to movies from Disney Animation, the remakes, Marvel, etc) are screwing Pixar over. Because three of their films went straight to Disney+, it sort of instilled a habit for people to just wait for the film to come to Disney+ rather than splurge money onto a theater experience. It makes sense why Disney did the strategy regarding the pandemic, but the fact that the habit was instilled due to this still stands.
You are correct though, the situation didn’t exactly hurt Pixar in a storytelling perspective. There were duds, sure, but Soul was fantastic and Luca is one of my personal favorites from Pixar. The thing is, though, Elemental was mainly perceived as “good” and “cute”. I haven’t seen the movie so I can’t form my own opinion, but that public word of mouth might simply not be good enough for people nowadays.
If they want to spend the hefty prices of a ticket and concession snacks, they’d want to see a movie that they think is worth their time. I experienced that firsthand when my brother and cousin would much rather see Across the Spiderverse for a second time rather than anything else.
@@hashtagcritical8688I hate clickbait TH-camrs like him.
I’m scared that Pixar is going through this, Pixar has always been a great company and I hope they don’t meet the same face as blue sky studios
The situation is like in the story of "Chicken Little". And not in the Disney movie from 2005.
While yes Pixar isn’t going away the thing is, Disney isn’t helpful with its marketing; the films lately released lacked any interest, while other studios like DreamWorks were able to drive you in, and that’s how it’s successful. None of the trailers for these latest Disney and Pixar projects are drawing people in. Even with a few successes and ridiculously large budgets, they aren't winning people over as much as they used to.
And I also think screen rant is also stupid for saying that Pixar is losing their magic just because of the bad opening of elemental even though it’s doing much better now actually and also, I think they are just panicking over nothing actually!!!!
“Yes, Mr. Sherman. everything’s failing.”
Poor Pixar
C the HAT!!!! I AM MRS. NESBIT!!!!
“Snap out of it buzz!!!!”
@@DiegoHernandez-xt2su”You’re right. I’m sorry. I’m just a little depressed that’s all. I can get through this… OH, I’M A SHAM!”
@@hunterolaughlin “shhhh!”
@@DiegoHernandez-xt2su “LOOK AT ME I CAN’T EVEN FLY OUT OF A WINDOW! The hat look good? Tell me the hat looked good. The apron’s a bit much.”
@@hunterolaughlin “out the window buzz you’re a genius!” *grabs him* “come on this way!”
Thanks for the calling out these Lasseter defenders all they need to go! Be more like Pete Doctor!
And be more like Jennifer Lee, too!
@@jamesgeorgi6627
Who's that?
@@cindydillard1825 the current chief creative officer of Walt Disney Animation Studios. She got this job after John was kicked out of Disney Animation. She’s the co-director and co-writer of Frozen 1 and 2, and she co-wrote Wreck it Ralph and the upcoming Wish
@@jamesgeorgi6627
Ok thanks for the information
@@cindydillard1825what kind of animation fan are you?
Am I the only one who saw Elemental more than once in theaters? I saw it a 2nd time just yesterday and unpopular opinion but it's a top tier Pixar. It's the Pixar movie that feels the most personal to me.
The fact that they forgetting that DreamWorks, right before the Bad Guys and The Last Wish, they can't remember that
They make mediocre to bad movies (Boss Baby, Trolls, etc)
Makes bad shows (The Nine Realms),
And sure, they mock Disney, BUT THEY PLAGIARIZED THE ART STYLE FROM THEM (Kelsey from Ruby Gillman)
Two words. Shark Tale.
I agreed with you. I hate DreamWorks.
@@alexismartinez8343 They had their chance to be better. They blew it.
You can hate trolls as much as you like but it’s a successful franchise.
The thing is Pixar’s and Disney latest out put is either mediocre and ok at best, even if they have a few gems it’s not enough to draw people in, say what you will about DreamWorks at least their latest films look more interesting in terms of its marketability
A lot has changed after Inside Out 2 became a HUGE success giving Pixar the pick me up they deserve after everything they went through in the past 4 years
26:31 to 26:59 - Honestly, spellbound is a film that shouldn't even exist. I'm gonna stick to Nimona and call it a day instead!!!
TBF, I’m kinda getting sick of this narrative on Pixar’s future solely based on the divisiveness of Lightyear. Pixar has definitely had struggles, but considering the pandemic and Bob Chapek’s mishandling of Disney as a whole, it’s not completely unnatural. But considering more often than not, the rhetoric about “Lightyear not being good” is more often than not brought up in regards to Pixar’s standing, I heavily question if some of these people know how situations like these actually work.
These types of Disney fans love John Lasseter.
Thankfully, I'm not one of them.
I find it frighting and disgusting, Lasseter better be kicked out of Sky dance!!!
6:06 you forgot to mention that Luca was the most streamed movie of 2021.
2:58 Don’t you mean people who DONT think before they act?
Honestly, I’m starting to like watching movies after they leave the theater. Because once they’re on DVD and streaming, nobody talks about box office numbers or reviews. Instead, people watch the movies for the reasons they’re supposed to be watched: as an escape from reality.
John Lasseter isn't the answer,
much how Donald Trump isn't the answer.
8:49
out of curiosity is there are a way to see a movie's profits in merch like we see for box office with sites like box office mojo?
If not, why not?
It makes a lot of sense.
The more you look at the yo-yo that is the entertainment industry, not many commentators on it know what &/or how to write about it for their jobs. …unless you make up something to write about.
Just when you can't make the decision on pannels for comic con this year. In fact, Pixar has a problem that they need to deal with in the future. Especially ever since former CEO John Lasseter got the boot in 2018. Their animation rivals are doing better than them right now.
BRING BACK RAYZENBERGER
28:20 I think they will probably get back on top, but who knows in the future🤔
You small ant stand us & All stand us peony little ants out us Hunter to one. They figure that out that's go...LIFE! It's NOT about something, keeping ants line!
Why I hate Aldone.
I’m glad he’s now getting hated.
@@Jonathanest90s Aldone is.?
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Have you seen The new WONKA trailer?
Maybe that’ll be one of the topics in next week’s episode.
@@hunterolaughlin that’s what I’m hoping for
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John Lasseter and Donald Trump are examples of how Not to be a leader.
Agreed, they might as well be locked up in a mental alyssum!!!
And Elon Musk and Phil Lord and Justin Roland
really? i like donald trump.
@@racheljackson4428 really.
@@racheljackson4428 Are you literally insane?
Wut
GO AWAY PLEASE!
If Disney was the republicans party then this channel is like their Fox News
Now that's just stupid
Spider man across the spider verse recently beat guardians of the galaxy in terms of box office
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