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    There is a lot of reloading content online. Some are more basic, and some are DEEPLY advanced. This is our attempt at a balance. There is obviously more that could be discussed and eventually will be, but we think this information will outline a solid foundation of process for any precision rifle reloader.
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    03:09 Brass Prep Part 1
    07:11 Brass Prep Part 2 (Sizing)
    16:40 Priming
    18:40 Charging, Finding Lands, and Seating
    27:27 Match Prep & Final Thoughts
    NOTE: Before reloading, we also suggest you read and consult a complete reloading manual from a reloading component manufacture. This will reinforce all steps here, as well as help you to find safe load parameters based on your cartridge, projectile, and powder choices.
    Website: area419.com
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  • @rustyvoiceinwilderness9580
    @rustyvoiceinwilderness9580 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Good stuff for sure. One thing I do differently is - after I've loaded the powder in a case, I remove the funnel, and then place a projectile into the case mouth upside down. Then I never miss an empty case. The first 10 or 15 rounds are usually not a problem with forgetfulness. but by the end of a 50-case process, I can get into day-dreaming or get distracted.

    • @Auto-Tech-Matt
      @Auto-Tech-Matt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I personally just go ahead and seat the projectile after charging. But that's me.

    • @Auto-Tech-Matt
      @Auto-Tech-Matt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But then again I am sitting at a small bench with all of my reloading supplies and press in a small spot.

    • @NelsonZAPTM
      @NelsonZAPTM 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Using an auto trickler, I have enough time to seat while the next charge pours.

    • @kathrynleaser5093
      @kathrynleaser5093 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's how I was taught that's a good visual to see right away if the case is charged with powder. Good post.

  • @XRING
    @XRING 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Absolutely great video series that will help a ton of reloaders! Thank you for making such quality products. 👍🏼

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, Ray!

  • @thaddeusernst5265
    @thaddeusernst5265 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is a service to the precision rifle community. Describing your personal reloading process to us from the armorers workshop that you’ve created is awesome. Thank you Area 419!!!

  • @JFT803
    @JFT803 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Just set up my Zero press. I have been reloading for years with an RCBS rock chucker. I cannot believe the repeatability of the Zero press, it's amazing and in a class like no other. Everything I have been using for years seems like child's play next to this thing. Area 419 keep inventing and I will keep buying. Your products are amazing

    • @willo7734
      @willo7734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I recently got a Zero and had been using an RCBS Rebel for a long time. The Zero is seriously an amazing precision machine. I swear it’s like a work of art that also pumps out match grade ammo.

  • @rodgerkunkle1847
    @rodgerkunkle1847 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My order of operations is, Dry tumble, resize and trim, dry tumble to remove case lube, prime, charge, seat.

  • @quintonwagoner5132
    @quintonwagoner5132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent. I haven't read all of the comments, but the viewer should take note that factory chambers are often throated extremely long. In some cases, touching the lands may result in an over mag length round. In other cases you may not reach the lands at all.

  • @lowvisgear6816
    @lowvisgear6816 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent video, good work guys! Really easy to follow, relevant and not at all condescending.
    For my 6BR match ammo, I personally:
    - Deprime cases before dry tumbling with a hand tool
    - Use imperial sizing wax for full length sizing in the Zero press, have had some issues with spray on lube
    - Use an expander mandrel to reset neck tension
    - Use an arbor press with force pack for seating to get a better feel of seating anomalies
    - Wipe down everything afterwards

  • @Kernsy71
    @Kernsy71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great informational video! Love your reloading products!

  • @brucegillespie654
    @brucegillespie654 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video , thanks for sharing your process with your high end tools . I have been loading for 50 years. Tools have come a long way since I started. I can only put some of these on my wish list after I win the lottery lol

  • @charlesmullins3238
    @charlesmullins3238 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you Craig. Made me rethink wet tumbling as my ocd won’t let cases stay dirty more than a day.lol. I hand polish all mine with brasso but only have Lyman sonic for insides. Time doesn’t matter to me all that does is the best cartridge I can produce period. Love my hellfire on dd5v3..keeps me on target for follow ups and opens my sinuses all at same time..😉matt in ky

  • @derekmcmurry
    @derekmcmurry ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've cleaned brass both ways. The steel pins are a pain especially when 2 get lodged in the flash hole but corn cob media does the same thing. Then I started cleaning before decapping and that was fine both ways. I've never seen or experienced what you're talking about at the case mouth with wet tumbling but I've never let it run more than 3 hours. Problem with the cases is after you size them, you have to clean again to get the lube off. For awhile I'd just lay the cases out and spray with carb or brake cleaner which works to get the lube off after sizing but just costs more money. Most of the time I clean the neck with 0000 stainless steel before sizing but that doesn't work as well as tumbling a few hours. What I do like about wet tumbling is it cleans the inside of the brass and neck where media doesn't seem to
    I know your video is regarding competition shooting but in my experience, with many of my hunting rifles, both factory and custom, I don't need to FL size. I will chamber every fired case and nearly 100% of the time, they go in just as easy as they did before firing. Unfortunately, many people will FL size cases like this and are bumping the shoulder back 0.002 even more when it's not even needed - thus, all of those cases only get neck sized with a bushing. I've been testing my sizing process using neck sizing only with a bushing and no expander of any type, and also doing that with a slightly tighter bushing followed by using a turning mandrel inside the neck. So far I've noticed no difference in handload neck tension consistency. This is with once fired brass or more than one firing. In the event a fired case is on the stiff side when chambering, I will FL size and I keep those separate.
    Again, this is only for my hunting rifles. I do have a PRS rifle in 6.5PRC but so far haven't needed to FL size any fired cases in it and the Lapua brass has been fine neck sizing only up to 2 firings each. At this point, for me, only time I have any use for all the turning mandrels I recently bought is on new brass. I'll neck size everything with a bushing, no expander, then use the turning mandrel

  • @LostBoysProduction
    @LostBoysProduction ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Nice video! I hope beginners don't feel pressured to spend $5K on their first reloading setup to recreate the awesome setup Area419 has here.

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We hope they don’t either! That’s why we did a video a few months ago of the basic needed equipment and were sure to include/note more budget friendly options

    • @gordpedersen8691
      @gordpedersen8691 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries , no pressure lol 😆

  • @nicoli9329
    @nicoli9329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Craig, how's it going? 1st off I want to thank Jon for creating Area419. The staff is super friendly and knowledgeable. I love using your quality made tools and products, I have a few 😂. I refer friends and club members to your web site. As far as another tip for reloading. I like to decap and clean the primer pockets, get rid of the carbon before I tumble the brass. This eliminates that crunchy feeling when priming on the CPS. This also allows the primer to be fully seated against the flash hole. Just another step for PRS prep lol.. Using the Zero press along with the CPS are my 2 favorite steps when reloading. Thank you for making our hobby more enjoyable 😊 Have a great one...
    Nick

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a step that a lot of people like to add, and nothing wrong with it! Just not something we have seen the benefit in and don’t dedicate the time to.

  • @charlesmullins3238
    @charlesmullins3238 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Same things I’ve found also on brass markings…on outside of cases it smears in my dies. Have 2 hornady 6.5prc with 22 magnum charges through em and still look great. Pockets of course loose but they both touch every time fired. Wish I could come visit and meet you guys someday brother. Y’all are and inspiration to a blue collar man with big dreams.

  • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
    @PrecisionRifleNetwork ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video guys!

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much!

  • @paullink9319
    @paullink9319 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like to bulk towel wipe and blow off the dust with compressed air after initial tumbling. I started this after a die developed grooves in the body that may have been attributed to contamination in the media. This also gives me the opportunity to clear any media out of the primer pocket. I will also tumble/wipe/blow again after sizing to clean off the lube residue. Wearing gloves when handling the brass and finished cartridges is also helpful especially if it is intended for longer term storage. Another step, maybe I missed it but... I will clean the primer pocket as part of the brass prep process.

  • @kathrynleaser5093
    @kathrynleaser5093 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Saw a video with your products. Had to check you out. I thought your comments on wet tumbling were spot on. Always had my doubts on the pins being too harsh. I use Flitz media prep in my tumbler. Their whole line of products work great. Again glad I found you . Great video. Thanks!

  • @jtash7660
    @jtash7660 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always like to tumble after sizing to remove the lubricant.
    Thanks for sharing your process!

  • @dougmccune9307
    @dougmccune9307 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks

  • @rustyvoiceinwilderness9580
    @rustyvoiceinwilderness9580 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I used to have concentricity issues. I started seating my projectile 1/4 of the way, pull it out and spin it a 1/4 turn, pull it out and spin it another 1/4 turn, pull it out 1 more time and sent it home with a full stroke of the press handle. Sold my concentricity machine.

    • @rockyuruguay6672
      @rockyuruguay6672 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get a forster benchrest micrometer die. it will align the bullet before start seating it. I still use your method with regular dies. for my precision calibers, Forster al the way. don't even measure concentricity anymore, just like you.

  • @ericmccowen5599
    @ericmccowen5599 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. I liked how you tried to keep things simplified. I still wet tumble my brass, but found that I could reduce my time way down (15 minutes) and not have the brass issue.

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keeping that time down is huge. Like we note, it’s not that you can’t do it successfully, it’s just not something we do as it adds a step that we’ve screwed up in the past

    • @DanielReyes-hz1qk
      @DanielReyes-hz1qk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@area419I've wet tumbled for a decade mainly because of apartment living and the noise and mess from dry tumbling. Are their any effective dry tumblers out there that don't make a mess and aren't very loud? I use a Rebel 17 wet tumbler and love how clean the brass comes out (including the primer pockets), but it's a lot of water to tumble and rinse and the whole process including drying takes longer than I'd like it to so I'd consider moving to dry tumbling if anyone can point me in a good direction for that

    • @area419
      @area419  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DanielReyes-hz1qk Most dry tumblers are about the same. They will all be a little dusty (though a lid, plus throwing in a dryer sheet will help that a lot) and the noise is the vibration that comes from the unit. There are some with spring/anti-vibration carriages you'll see, but they all vibrate.

  • @mckimmym
    @mckimmym ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After sizing I like to to give the brass another quick tumble to get the lube off in case the spray on line I use could contaminate the powder. Also I typically hit the necks with graphite prior to bullet seating but I don’t know if that does anything yet as I haven’t tested with or without.

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing wrong with adding these steps!

  • @niclasedelsten6428
    @niclasedelsten6428 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hej!
    Good video and nice products.
    Im on the budget side with the press. And have upgrade others. I woild like to have a progressive and or a multi tool press like the Zero.
    Less time you touch the brass = more range time 😊
    One thing that I do aftrer priming. I aet the primed case with primer faced up. Then I know all are primed.
    Then the charge is ready I Flip one case, funnel it, pour powder, remove funnel and plant the bullet.
    And reapet.
    This way I know that every case is ready for seating.

  • @charlesmullins3238
    @charlesmullins3238 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that stack of alpha in background also…my choice also and love there nice box you get. Wish they’d do 6.5prc as I load/shoot slot of with some amazing performance and wow moments when hyper fast bullets impact targets that react to them.

  • @BlackC5Z06
    @BlackC5Z06 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding the cleaning - I have gotten to where I only wet tumble with some dish soap and a dash of citric acid. No pins. I can not tell a single difference in cleanliness, yet I don't have to deal with getting the pins out of the cases. And to help me with forgetting to turn it off, I use one of the outlet timers I use for the Christmas lights. 15-30 minutes (depending if it was shot with a silencer or not) with some hot water, a squirt of dish soap, and a 9mm case of citric acid and they're sparkly clean. Then I just rinse them off with the hose and toss them in the air dryer.
    I just got to where I was scared of the lead dust in the dry tumbling. With the water, I pour it out through some charcoal to hopefully filter out some of the lead and I am not worried about breathing it in.
    Just my method.

  • @thomaskingsbury6560
    @thomaskingsbury6560 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good lord some peepells comments are too caustic. This was a well done video,thanks guys.

    • @kathrynleaser5093
      @kathrynleaser5093 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought the guy was great. Easy to listen to had good technique.

  • @stephanc7192
    @stephanc7192 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good video

  • @CalmBeforeTheStorm76
    @CalmBeforeTheStorm76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I sold med devices for a long time. You guys are like the Arthrex of reloading equipment companies.

    • @area419
      @area419  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! (We think, unless there is some underlying issue there, to which we say BOOOOO)

  • @rkwjunior2298
    @rkwjunior2298 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want to do this. But geez, the time and patience needed is crazy..

  • @user-nz4wc2vl1n
    @user-nz4wc2vl1n ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Craig & Area 419. GREAT video.
    Question: do you bother cleaning brand new (Peterson) brass? Same question with annealing. My Peterson brass came clean, in cases, and annealed.
    Thanks!

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว

      On new brass, you may run it through a trim and size, but that’s all I’d do with it before getting into prime/charge/seat

  • @TheCarJesus
    @TheCarJesus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First of all what an excellent video. Thankyou for this wonderful resource.
    I was just curious. With all of that one shot lube you used during the sizing process. What stops your powder from sticking to the residual lube on the inside of the neck? and is it a problem if you do have powder stuck to the inside of the neck?
    I think im selling my wet tumbler... general consensus is dry is better, even though i have grown to love my shiny brass haha.

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Using stick powders it has never been a problem. If 1-2 kernels decide to stick they are very easily knocked down into the case when the bullet enters during seating.
      Glad you enjoyed!

  • @thetexasrat
    @thetexasrat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Keep up the good work.
    I am wondering if y'all would make a smaller portable 4 station turret press with 1 and 1/4" holes, so that the Hornady LNL quick change die bushings could be implemented?.

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This isn’t something on our product development roadmap

  • @lilpntbllr
    @lilpntbllr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Any chance yall can go into how neck tension plays into the reloading process? And what's better mandrel vs neck bushing?

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Check out this video we did not too long ago! th-cam.com/video/OC72ZhpSqsw/w-d-xo.html Hopefully it can answer a couple things!

  • @williamfleming1469
    @williamfleming1469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question on neck tension…..Understand that neck sizing is no longer a preferred practice for many, but do you ever run expander mandrills for consistent neck tension? Guessing no since it was not included in this video?
    If not, do you just go with the full body resize and seat the bullet at whatever neck tension is given by the full length die?
    Great video and thanks so much

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We did use an expander, there a ground mandrel in our die that does it all on the sizing stroke, and can be had in various sizes that let you control your neck tension

  • @whitexeno
    @whitexeno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use chips instead of pins to wet tumble, never had any issues with media getting stuck.

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We've used the product from Southern Shine media and it's solid stuff. Much less of a debacle than pins. We still prefer the dry media but this is certainly an option worth consideration.

  • @caruana133
    @caruana133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please explain the concept for Crimping. I know there are a few different steps when shooting semi automatic as to bolt action. I shoot only semi automatic at this time.

  • @jburrowsiv
    @jburrowsiv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been told that you should brush the necks if you anneal. Do you have thoughts on that?

  • @JBesq
    @JBesq หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just started reloading for hunting (whitetail). The Zero looks great but do I need it or is this for precision competition guys?

  • @rsf5898
    @rsf5898 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    An excellent video. Is ‘piece of brass’ now the cumbersome way of saying ‘case’?

  • @5RWill
    @5RWill ปีที่แล้ว

    Craig what benches are those? Husky? Just curious i got one for my setup while I’m in residency. Obviously not as sturdy as my home bench but curious

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They’re from BenchDepot.com - Harding style I’m almost certain. Have had them a while, have a bunch on the shop floor and around the building. Quality stuff.

  • @audiogod2929
    @audiogod2929 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lube the neck before loading the bullet. I use grafite

  • @GaryV16
    @GaryV16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did i miss decapping or was that part of the sizing? Did you decap before cleaning? i'm new to this and trying to get a list of equipment.

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We are decapping in the sizing operation, not before cleaning. Unless there is something really dirty happening we don't see a major benefit to getting primer pockets spotless.

  • @user-jo6tv8cv4n
    @user-jo6tv8cv4n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you not worry about cleaning the brass again after resizing? I figured the case lube would introduce unwanted contaminates, especially if you use like a sizing wax.

    • @area419
      @area419  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don’t worry about it because we use OneShot, which is specifically made to not contaminate powders

  • @Phriqhi
    @Phriqhi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, I think it's great information and thank you.
    Context: I am non an amazing ELR competitive shot or a bench rest expert.
    I choose to just seat a buppet to a consistent COL as e.g. per sami because is its repeatable (I know the throat erodes etc but its 308....)
    Is that a sin?

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope, not a sin at all. Often times a moderate jump of .040-.060 can be set and not see a lot of change. As long as you're somewhere in there, and are measuring length to the bullet ogive (not the tip) then you'll be just fine.

    • @Phriqhi
      @Phriqhi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area419 thank you*

  • @luketestaferratamoronivian9159
    @luketestaferratamoronivian9159 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you consider cleaning the brass again to get rid of the lube especially on the inside of the case?
    also when do you consider depriming? Do you deprime after cleaning and cleaning the primer pocket seperately to avoid getting any tumble media stuck in the flash hole?

    • @area419
      @area419  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Using One Shot we do not remove it. Hornady made it so that you don’t have to.
      We deprime on the sizing stroke. Unless something extraordinary is going on with gunk buildup we don’t bother with cleaning out primer pockets.

    • @luketestaferratamoronivian9159
      @luketestaferratamoronivian9159 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@area419 super thanks for the quick reply. Keep up the great work.

    • @190264jmc
      @190264jmc 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much for the question. I was wondering because with primers removed before the dry tumbling i did get a lot of problems with tumbling media stacked in the primer case. So now I prefer to deprime my cases after the cleaning in the resizing stroke.
      Thank you very much for the helpful video !
      PS i love ma Zero Press. Its The best for consistent reloading time after time!
      Jan Cremers

    • @area419
      @area419  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@190264jmc if you really want to decap and then tumble (which is a perfectly fine thing to do) just leave the decapping pin in your sizing die when it goes through that step, will knock out any little stuck media and not add more work

  • @JeffTBell
    @JeffTBell 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When is your M-Series Seating Die coming out?

  • @esmannr
    @esmannr หลายเดือนก่อน

    After doing all the resizing of the case, I would anneal it again before handloading.

  • @Sean-ov5kl
    @Sean-ov5kl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are you using a seating die that is not released yet in this video?

    • @area419
      @area419  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's one that we made and have out in testing. Making sure it's perfect as we refine out process/output on sizing dies to keep up with demand.

  • @cronjevandermerwe8864
    @cronjevandermerwe8864 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Realy nice way. The really nice way costs a really expensive price

  • @levigne25
    @levigne25 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d like to add something about when you mentioned stainless wet tumbling peens the brass yes it does but the peening goes away after you trim your brass . Second of all if you have pins getting stuck in your necks , you are using the wrong size pins . I been doing this process for 6 years now and not once in the 6 years have I ever had a stuck pin .
    Run a q-tip into your freshly dry tumbled brass , I assure you that you will find a light powder inside your brass even on the surface . Eventually your media will be contaminated ,the powder will consist of dry media and carbon . That contaminated powder is not good for your annealing machine and your nice expensive sizing dies and yes it will make its way into your sizing dies . Also after running hundreds into your annealing machine some will make its way in there .
    When you find a good system with stainless tumbling it’s the best way to go . One more thing the carbon build up inside your brass casing on firing number 10 is going to be different than firing number 2 . Stainless tumbling gets rid of all this carbon build up every time .

  • @mikesouza7968
    @mikesouza7968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about cleaning the primer pockets ?

  • @davidschrack1305
    @davidschrack1305 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great

  • @lonnie6785
    @lonnie6785 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about re-cleaning after the resizing and trimming process to get all that lube off.

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      One-Shot does not require this step, one of the key reasons we like it

  • @magic4221
    @magic4221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im surprised you didn't do any primer pocket work on your brass, chamfer and clean primer pocket. I think its an important step. So what do you think?

    • @area419
      @area419  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uniforming isn't something we have messed with in quite some time - starting with premium brass makes that a lot less of a variable. Cleaning the pocket is something you could do, though we have not observed this as being a big deal, so it's not something we regularly spend time on. Certainly inspect to see if there are any major issues, but brushing out each one isn't high on our "things to spend extra time on" list

    • @magic4221
      @magic4221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your response,I will consider it. Thank you.

  • @DS-gd1xw
    @DS-gd1xw ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My process:
    Inspect
    Decap
    Ultrasonic clean
    Dry
    Anneal
    Lube
    F/L Resize
    Dry tumble (to remove sizing lubricant)
    Measure, trim, chamfer,debur
    Prime
    Powder
    Seat bullet
    Inspect

    • @DLN-ix6vf
      @DLN-ix6vf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same here ; sometimes when I take the cases out of the sonic cleaner I give the neck a quick rub with an old T-Shirt on the outside, gets rids of any loose material not removed.

  • @rak7101
    @rak7101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sry, I missed the de-priming part. Notice that the tumbled brass still had the primer, but the Annealed brass had no primer. You use a dedicated "Universal" de-primer after the tumble? r/

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว

      One of those clips was just a different piece of brass. In this process we are removing the spent primer during sizing

    • @rak7101
      @rak7101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@area419 Many thanks. Do you clean the primer pocket then? Reloaded a lot in the 80's and 90's (Gale McMillian got us started) - I recall de-priming/neck sizing only (neck size only for new brass) then tumbling to clean brass (do not remember if we tumbled new brass to clean off the lube - dont think so). Then just checking for media stuck in the pocket. We trimmed and outside turned the necks by hand. Weighed bullets. On board now with FL sizing and annealing. Great video, very informative - thanks again r/

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rak7101 unless there is something really nasty happening in a primer pocket we typically wont take extra steps to clean them. It's not time that we have found worth taking. If brass ever ends up really nasty it's not unheard of for the process to change a little and maybe start with a decap and then wash (wet soapy water) operation, but that's not terribly common.

  • @hank3152
    @hank3152 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only had time to watch to 17:15 just before priming, but I didn’t see you use or mention a mandrel. Did I miss something?

    • @area419
      @area419  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Decapping and mandrel for neck size are all part of the sizing stroke with our sizing dies

  • @rsquared9703
    @rsquared9703 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know it’s another step but what about de-priming before cleaning and measuring the headspace? I’ve seen some primers cause bad readings because they are being referenced and not the actual base of the case.

    • @area419
      @area419  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Certainly something that could be done. Some people like to decap before cleaning to ensure there is no buildup in the primer pocket. While we don’t consider the extra steps necessary, you’ll not cause harm if you do them with care

    • @rsquared9703
      @rsquared9703 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area419 what is your opinion about FL bushing dies? Pros and cons?

    • @area419
      @area419  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rsquared9703 As we are producing dies, we chose not to do bushings. We think FL dies are the only way to go, vs neck sizing, but bushings are not our favorite.

  • @claytonmoore4550
    @claytonmoore4550 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you de-priming as part of the sizing operation?

    • @area419
      @area419  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @scottperson5934
    @scottperson5934 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you de-prime before tumbling or at sizing brass

    • @area419
      @area419  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Decapping is done here during the sizing stroke

  • @paulrivera9127
    @paulrivera9127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When and how do you de-prime the fired brass?

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cases are decapped in the sizing operation

  • @Sleepyhead6912
    @Sleepyhead6912 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did You use mseries siding die?

  • @brucemiddleton6697
    @brucemiddleton6697 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    who makes the hangers for the guns you have on the wall?

    • @area419
      @area419  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Almost all of the display items in there are from Hold Up Displays - we are pleased with them, would buy again

  • @null7700
    @null7700 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone know what rifle racks they have in the BG?

  • @audieherpel2605
    @audieherpel2605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you tumble off / clean off the One Shot case lube?

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, have never felt the need with OneShot based on the way it dries

    • @donbenson5292
      @donbenson5292 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tumble mine off. I do not want anything on my brass in the chamber when fired. I want my brass in bolt rifles to grip the chamber. It prohibits the brass from flowing. In a semi auto it may not make as big of a difference. I tumble with walnut after firing, corn cob after sizing and all prep work done before loading. I have used one shot after long time ago evaluating others and have stuck with it.
      Good video.

  • @user-rq7rd8jq1b
    @user-rq7rd8jq1b 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how do u clean the inside seizing lube out of inside after sizing

    • @area419
      @area419  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Using One-Shot, we don't. It's formulated in a way that it's not required.

  • @tiputipu777
    @tiputipu777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive never tumbled brass. If they are dirty a simple whipe has been enough for me. I think the neck welding to the bullet really only applies to people who run max or close to max pressure

  • @tiger9764
    @tiger9764 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So y’all don’t find fire forming a piece of brace to a specific rifle is better than a full length sizing?

    • @area419
      @area419  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For consistency from firing to firing, full-length sizing provides a better result.

  • @jefffitch5399
    @jefffitch5399 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you use a case check gauge?

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’ll see us measure headspace/bump as well as seating depth, but a full case gauge isn’t a part of our process.

  • @LedGuitar1218
    @LedGuitar1218 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how expensive and beautiful the primal rights priming tool is. Then everyone has to use a 10¢ rubber band to make it work easier. Somebody needs to make a nicer fix for this.

  • @theirishmahoney
    @theirishmahoney ปีที่แล้ว

    What Headspace Gauge is that you are using?

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s one we are making, should be available soon

    • @theirishmahoney
      @theirishmahoney ปีที่แล้ว

      @@area419 gotcha, I thought maybe I was missing something on the site. I was going to try to take advantage of the Independence Day sale.

  • @nebraskaman8247
    @nebraskaman8247 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Real question…why shouldn’t someone deprime, and then clean the brass?

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can be done either way, as addressed, we don’t see any harm either way. We deprime after cleaning to save a step

    • @nebraskaman8247
      @nebraskaman8247 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

    • @pianoman947
      @pianoman947 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you dry tumble after depriming, the media can get lodged in the flash hole then you have to punch it out.
      I wet tumble my brass after I deprime, however I don't use SS pins. I use just hot water,dawn, and lemishine.

  • @jpkla5663
    @jpkla5663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So when loading precision ammo you don't need to wipe off Hornady One Shot case lube after sizing?

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm sure someone will disagree and demand you remove it, but we have never removed OneShot. It's made without petroleum, teflon, or other synthetic silicons, so it does not contaminate powder.

  • @rollandsicard1628
    @rollandsicard1628 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Being new to precision rifle ammo reloading, there is ONE item that lacked explanation, that is .050 last mentioned and not explained what in the world are you referring to? Please explain with clarity. Otherwise the remainder was very good.

    • @area419
      @area419  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We note in the video that we are not going to get into the minutiae of developing a load, so we pick a nice round number - .050" - for our "jump" or space that the bullet is seated away from the lands. There are ALLLLLLL sort of theories on how much you should jump or jam a bullet, but again, not digging into that here. Most people can start with a load .050" off and have solid results.

  • @Levidanielz
    @Levidanielz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys dont dry tumble before priming to get rid of the lube?

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, we don’t, OneShot doesn’t require it, and an extra dry tumble makes for another opportunity for media to be left in the flash hole or in the case

    • @Levidanielz
      @Levidanielz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got ya, I've never used it. I like 10/1 99% isopropyl alcohol and lanolin mix. They get sticky.

    • @Levidanielz
      @Levidanielz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anyway, love your products. I use em every few days. Keep rockin Area419!

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Levidanielz we don’t love lanolin-based, as you have to clean the inside of your die fairly often. It builds up and if you’re not on top of maintenance can cause inconsistency

    • @Levidanielz
      @Levidanielz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haven't had a problem in about six thousands handloads since I started using it. 0.002" bump everytime.

  • @airborne350g
    @airborne350g ปีที่แล้ว

    Need to make 300WSM and 284 Shehane dies so I can use them on my Zero Press. 😀

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those will be great candidates for the cut-your-own die sleeves, which will be available soon. Take them to your Smith and have him run your custom sizing reamer into them

    • @JeremyCarroll83
      @JeremyCarroll83 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      X2 on the 300WSM

  • @brysonredgrave
    @brysonredgrave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you feel about ultrasonic cleaners?

    • @area419
      @area419  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They’re perfectly fine. Never fell in love with them but no real reason.

    • @brysonredgrave
      @brysonredgrave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area419 would it benefit any if I did both? Ultrasonic and dry tumble

    • @area419
      @area419  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brysonredgrave unsure what the benefit would be to doing both. Once the big chunks of grime are gone it’s ready to go

    • @brysonredgrave
      @brysonredgrave 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area419 just wondering to get that polish look

  • @vernonhelms2316
    @vernonhelms2316 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I have a AGS annealer , I know everyone is raving about the amp Annealer but I just can’t afford it right now .

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nothing wrong with a flame-style! As long as you have the patience and know-how to dial it in, you can get a very solid result.

  • @FrankPeralta1988
    @FrankPeralta1988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any eta on seating dies?

    • @area419
      @area419  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They won't be specifically soon. S-Series sizers will come first.

  • @claytoole1986
    @claytoole1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    What seater are you using

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's our M-Series Seater, likely something we will roll out later this year.

    • @claytoole1986
      @claytoole1986 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what I thought it was! Ready for it!

  • @user-ws7us5me4s
    @user-ws7us5me4s 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this video is advertising for the most expensive reloading tools and nothing more 😂

    • @the1zer
      @the1zer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it is and I have all of that same stuff! It’s wonderful! 😂

    • @kyletyson8129
      @kyletyson8129 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most expensive and quite possiblely the best that matters to some people

    • @user-ws7us5me4s
      @user-ws7us5me4s หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@the1zer maybe wonderfull,i have the Turban press ,much cheeper and do exactly the same job 😂

    • @YellowCab524
      @YellowCab524 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro I’m sitting here watching this thinking the same thing. All’s I have is a Lee Classic Single State Press and some other rudimentary equipment 😂😂😂

  • @jman7955
    @jman7955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mostly Mad Men Like Robert Brantley 😂, He's a damn national treasure! 😂 He's definitely doing something right .

  • @tudyk21
    @tudyk21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:05. I hope I don't bruise your guidelines, but all of those fluted barrels and muzzlebrakes and colored stocks are GAF!😂

    • @area419
      @area419  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gucci? Glorious? Gorgeous? We’ll take it!

    • @tudyk21
      @tudyk21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area419 zing!🤣

  • @mikeh5908
    @mikeh5908 ปีที่แล้ว

    ere does a guy get an adjustable bump die

    • @airborne350g
      @airborne350g ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Area419 and Short Action Customs make adjustable dies to bump the shoulder.

    • @mikeh5908
      @mikeh5908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@airborne350g thanks man I'll check it out

  • @georgelza
    @georgelza ปีที่แล้ว

    no neck sizing ?

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We full-length size, giving us consistent dimensions for the whole case every time

    • @georgelza
      @georgelza ปีที่แล้ว

      Ye, I recall, sorry was not clear, meant to say, no mandrel sizing of the neck?

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@georgelza our die has an internal precision-ground mandrel that is pulled through all in the same stroke as the FL size

    • @mckimmym
      @mckimmym ปีที่แล้ว

      @@area419 Does this mean neck tension is not something that can be adjusted?

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mckimmym it can be, via different sized mandrels. Our dies come with a mandrel that will yield you about .002” of tension, but we sell mandrels in .0005” increments to take you from barely any tension to about .0025”

  • @justice1327
    @justice1327 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So your rationale for NOT using a wet-tumbler is YOU forgot and let it tumble too long? This is not the result of a faulty product or process, but user error.

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As we explain at length, this mouth damage can and does happen with shorter run times, over multiple cleanings. But if you want to do other things, then go for it. All we are doing here is showing how we do it and talking about why we do it that way!

    • @mckimmym
      @mckimmym ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wet tumble with my spent small rifle primers. They don’t get stuck in flash holes and they are softer than stainless pins so less likely to damage case mouths.

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I take it back. Start at 9.20 knowing you should full length re-size. Also bear in mind used brass should be de-primed which he forgets.

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We broke the video into chapters, they're helpful to be able to skip around if you want to skip things like introductions.

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also, the brass is de-capped during the sizing operation.

  • @tkfounder
    @tkfounder 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You never de-primed the case LOL.

    • @area419
      @area419  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a part of the sizing operation LOL

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4 minutes in. Just got to cleaning brass. Appears to prefer dry tumbling.

  • @DLN-ix6vf
    @DLN-ix6vf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    guess the spent primers just disappeared and who cleaned out the primer pockets ?

    • @OrientalGoons
      @OrientalGoons ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You must be fun at parties

    • @DLN-ix6vf
      @DLN-ix6vf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OrientalGoons gee they get some real stupid people on here !

    • @area419
      @area419  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Primers are popped during sizing (yes, there is a short clip during annealing of a recapped case, was shot out of order) and the pockets were not brushed or tumbled.

    • @DLN-ix6vf
      @DLN-ix6vf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OrientalGoons now that comment is just plain STUPID !

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5 minutes in. Wet tumbling appears to be devilish! Just start watching from 7.15.

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 minute in. Learned nothing other than someone loves the sound of their own voice. GET ON WITH IT!

  • @angelogutierrez6059
    @angelogutierrez6059 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😻 *PromoSM*

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2 minutes in. Still loving his own voice. Learned nothing about reloading or products.

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3 minutes in. Still loving his own voice and passed no information on.

  • @ronbowman-yi1py
    @ronbowman-yi1py 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You did not say anything about primer pocket cleaning/prep. So maybe it is something you do, but did not address in this video. For myself, I do not want to take more time in the process cleaning pockets. That is why I like wet tumbling with pins!!! Not only does the brass come out clean without wax... the the primer pockets are perfectly clean (inside and out). No need for anything else.
    So you bring up two issues of wet tumbling. First is that pins can stick, bunch or get stuck. That can be easily overcome with a media separator. I have only once had a case full of pins and that was easily identified with observation/handling during the reloading process, as you stated to watch for in the video.
    Secondly. You bring up the issue of pinging of the necks. This is an issue that Greg Dykstra whines about and now you. So please help me understand why this is a problem for accuracy.
    I ALWAYS chamfer (and debur) my case (if you do not please let me know why you do not). So, if the case neck has dings but is chamfered (and deburred) no part of the neck mouth will touch the bullet... so how could this possible effect accuracy?
    And if you trim a case, the issue of dings is completely gone.
    I look forward to your response.

  • @wainr777able
    @wainr777able 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buy me all the equipment that you have, and I might give this video a like, but for now it's definitely a thumbs down. I would elaborate more, but you probably wouldn't understand and couldn't take it.

    • @wainr777able
      @wainr777able 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been reloading longer than you've been breathing

    • @area419
      @area419  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@wainr777able Biden has also been in elected office for longer than we've been breathing, in case you were concerned that years doing something was the sole barometer for performance or capability. Appreciate the constructive commentary.

  • @andyvan5692
    @andyvan5692 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    wow, a nice process, but you may as well have the sound OFF, for all the good it did for beginners, every time you get to specifics, you are a politician....it depends..... how infuriating!!, just tell us for gods sake!!!

  • @dvskane1808
    @dvskane1808 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You could have done this video in ten minutes vs 30. Not watchable.

    • @area419
      @area419  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a little bar at the bottom of the video that allows you to skip around. The reality of TH-cam is that while you may have forgotten more than we will ever know about reloading, many watching this are starting out or are looking for all the little detail and commentary possible. When discussing something like reloading, we think more information and context are better than less.

  • @gesheepistemology8050
    @gesheepistemology8050 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hahahaha, 50thou out... damn man... no speed node testing, no depth tuning.... damn man!!!

    • @area419
      @area419  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We pretty specifically talk about this being reloading process and not something that includes load development.

    • @gesheepistemology8050
      @gesheepistemology8050 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@area419 So you make bullets that are shit and this is your "education"? How about load development is integral to reloading process?