blessings from California frank I was sitting with sugar ray robinson at the forum in 1980 in Los Angeles it was great , thanks frank a scouser from liverpool,
Great story Frank. The fights between Robinson and Jake LaMotta were legendary. They fought six times and Sugar Ray won five of them. But Robinson admired LaMotta because he couldn't knock him out. Robinson was probably in the top five greatest fighters who ever lived. LaMotta was one of the toughest.
It's funny because the Sugar Rays that followed had such an advantage without even throwing a punch - Sugar Ray Lenard for decades was my favourite boxer but I have to admit Usyk is up there now with the best there ever was (it had to take a proper boxer to beat the massive Fury - no one else before him could ever had). Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston in their prime we so powerful and unstoppable too. Respect to Ali who forever changed boxing.
What a proper down to earth guy, and what a life you have and are living. I believe your generation had the best in terms of, just missing the horrors of WW2, and grew up with no internet, however if it were not for the internet we wouldn’t be listening to you, in this format at least. Keep going, keep inspiring, keep enjoying your life.
wonderful story. I've seen some interviews of him on youtube and he comes across as a light-hearted person who wasn't full of himself. So to hear your first-hand experience of him being friendly with a stranger makes me happy; he really was like that.
Thank you for all these amazing Videos and sharing your knowledge Frank, am sure Ray Robinson would have been proud to know all your doing to bring boxing back to the people 🥊
Loved to hear your story about Sugar Ray Robinson - one of my favourite boxers of all time with a very skilful, slick style. He was lightning quick and brilliant in all aspects of boxing.
Just found you! Love you're voice, and cadence! Love from Arizona USA! My favorite boxer now is Naoya Inoue, could you do a video on him? I also grew up in NY and got to be friends with Danny London a great Brooklyn boxer in the 30s and 40s he is on boxrec
That's amazing, the American press wrote after Ken Buchanan won in new York that his jab was comparable to Sugar Ray Robinsons . That speaks volumes about how good he was as Sugar Ray Robinson could do everything . What an honour to train with him Wow!
HI FRANK GREAT POST .RAY ROBINSON WAS THE GREATEST BOXER EVER.. LOVED YOUR POST ON THE GREAT KEN BUCHANNON .WHAT A GREAT LIGHTWEIGHT KEN WAS..R.I.P. THE GREAT MAN...
Much respect for Ken Buchanan. He was robbed in New York of his title. Duran hit him low after the bell and he couldn't continue. That's a disqualification by any fair assessment. I accept that Duran was controlling the fight and was pounding out a victory, but he was awarded the title thanks to fouling Buchanan, who was a fine champion and a stand-up guy.
Recently discovered your channel and loving it, Frank. Used to box/spar back in the day at Heavyweight but my inner demons/lack of belief/self-doubt never led me to have even one amateur fight, even though I was told I was good and had a heavy hand..subscribed to your great channel anyway and love the content 🥊🥊🥊
@@FranksNobleArt ~ Very well, still healthy and fit and doing a bit where I am now in West London. Thanks very much for the reply and take care and keep doing what you’re doing.. it really is top class content 🥊🥊🥊
Wow what a Story & Privilege..And growing up,my 'Ol man' loved the fight game& was a big Ali fan,but always stated that he thought Sugar Ray Robinson was the G O A T
Hi Frank, Great content as usual,i hear you rate joe louis as the best heavyweight,i just think his combinations were a thing of beauty,the best puncher ive ever seen...
You almost certainly already know this, Frank, but for people who don't:- Sugar Ray Robinson's real name was Walker Smith. He never wanted to be a boxer - he wanted to be a professional dancer but his dancing career flopped. There are videos of him dancing with Gene Kelly amongst others. My Greatest Boxer Of All Time nomination changes constantly but at THIS moment in time I will say Salvador Sanchez. Best regards
The term “pound for pound” was created because of “Sugar” Ray Robinson! Prior to that … everyone considered the heavyweight Champion to be the best fighter, but when Robinson came along they couldn’t deny his superior skills and thus the term “pound for pound” was used!!!
In terms of British Fighters theres one man that's often overlooked.. his name was Len Harvey .. I suggest everyone go look up his career. My 5 favourite fighters of all time are Marciano, Holyfield, Duran, Locche & Jimmy McLarnin. Modern? Would have to be Usyk, Pac & Lomachenko.
Frank's Nobel Art..So out of curiosity Frank,considering u were mixing in some top company,did u ever consider turning Pro? ..And who's ur fav 'Prizefighter' Ken Buchanan ( who i thought was pure class& Roberto Duran picked out as perhaps his most difficult opponent) or Jim Watt? Who i was no fan of&he was given a ridiculous decision over Sean O'grady,but was exposed against Alexis Arguello ( which is no shame by the way)
@jerryoshea3116 When I was around 17-19 and pro managers started to ask me to turn I considered it, but witnessed too many who went down that route without making real money. So, ditched the idea. Buchanan was a stand-out with a fantastic jab and was super-confident. His fight with Jim Watt was a classic.
@FranksNobleArt Yes,being raised in East London,we had the Repton BOXING Club& many fighters coming from the area .( Kirkland Laing lived close by& his Brother in the neighbouring road) So we were familiar with many of the near misses& u made a career in Journalism,which worked out well for u..( And I think I read one of ur articles on SAF,which was interesting & most def believable) But it's great that u stayed in contact with the sport..( of Pugilism) And of course I sparred ( I think I was better with my legs, i.e Kickboxing..I don't think I had the footwork for Amateur Boxing,my only chance was to get inside & up close) And by the way,guess where I live?
Sorry Frank but in general boxing peaked in the 1980s and Robinson main problem was he couldn’t get mentally “up” for some fights ….he lost the middleweight championship 5 times losing to some crap fighters like Fullmer , Pender and Bassillio …and he was oh oh so lucky to beat Turpin in the re- match after loads of shinanagins prior to this fight in New York …..yeah classy and stylish but if he couldn’t beat pender he’d have no chance against Hagler …or Leonard or Hearns …
@nobbytang He was well past his best when he fought Pender, but look at his career -175 wins, 19 losses, 6 draws, and 2 no-decisions. He had 109 knockouts, I apppreciate you getting in touch and the debate. Best wishes.
Pender was safety first and I'm doubtful that he would have given Robinson much trouble when Ray was younger. Nothing crap about Basillio and while Fullmer was definitely less skilled than some he was immensely strong and could walk through most fighters best punches.
And may I just add that as soon as he tapped Tommy Hearns on the chin that would be the end of the fight. The Hagler v Hearns bout was certainly ferocious but was only really competitive for one round and most people at the time knew that Hagler wasn't going to lose. Robinson v Hagler would have been an amazing bout. Regarding Ken Buchanan....I think Buchanan v Arguello would have been an amazing match up.
Nope. Sorry. Cool he’s your #1, but, the reality is he could never walk a mile in the two men’s shoes who are in front of him. Robinson is the greatest man to ever box. But, there are two boxers who didn’t seem human but more like boxing gods-Sam Langford & Harry Greb. 1.) Sam Langford 2.) Harry Greb 3.) Sugar Ray Robinson There are your 3 greatest P4P fighters in history in correct order. If you want to flip 1 & 2 that’s fine. But, there’s a gulf between they and #3. It’s quite simply those two, and then everyone else. At the top of the “everyone else” is Sugar Ray Robinson.
@havrisen6620 This what I like about this channel - it often promoyes debate and you have picked out three exceptional fighters. We all have our favourites and Greb for sure was an incredible fighter. So, your top three represents a great selection. Thank you fir your contribution.
blessings from California frank I was sitting with sugar ray robinson at the forum in 1980 in Los Angeles it was great , thanks frank a scouser from liverpool,
Beautiful story. Robinson is the pinnacle of boxing's golden era. A gentleman.
Fabulous to hear your memories of Sugar Ray Robinson.
I agree with you, ray robinson was the best boxer who ever lived.
Great story Frank. The fights between Robinson and Jake LaMotta were legendary. They fought six times and Sugar Ray won five of them. But Robinson admired LaMotta because he couldn't knock him out. Robinson was probably in the top five greatest fighters who ever lived. LaMotta was one of the toughest.
You're spot on. Thank you.
So many years have passed, yet Ray Robinson stands alone. He's still The Man.
Great story Frank the ORIGINAL sugar Ray 👌
It's funny because the Sugar Rays that followed had such an advantage without even throwing a punch - Sugar Ray Lenard for decades was my favourite boxer but I have to admit Usyk is up there now with the best there ever was (it had to take a proper boxer to beat the massive Fury - no one else before him could ever had). Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston in their prime we so powerful and unstoppable too. Respect to Ali who forever changed boxing.
What a proper down to earth guy, and what a life you have and are living.
I believe your generation had the best in terms of, just missing the horrors of WW2, and grew up with no internet, however if it were not for the internet we wouldn’t be listening to you, in this format at least.
Keep going, keep inspiring, keep enjoying your life.
wonderful story. I've seen some interviews of him on youtube and he comes across as a light-hearted person who wasn't full of himself. So to hear your first-hand experience of him being friendly with a stranger makes me happy; he really was like that.
Wow!! What an experience! I agree with you, Sugar Ray has no equal!
Thank you for all these amazing Videos and sharing your knowledge Frank, am sure Ray Robinson would have been proud to know all your doing to bring boxing back to the people 🥊
Not many of us get to meet their heroes Frank. Yours is my favourite channel on the internet.🥊👏
Loved to hear your story about Sugar Ray Robinson - one of my favourite boxers of all time with a very skilful, slick style. He was lightning quick and brilliant in all aspects of boxing.
Some fantastic personal memories of a great legend. Really interesting.
👍👍
Just found you! Love you're voice, and cadence! Love from Arizona USA! My favorite boxer now is Naoya Inoue, could you do a video on him? I also grew up in NY and got to be friends with Danny London a great Brooklyn boxer in the 30s and 40s he is on boxrec
Thank you Michael. Great to hear from you. I'll look up Danny London.
That's amazing, the American press wrote after Ken Buchanan won in new York that his jab was comparable to Sugar Ray Robinsons . That speaks volumes about how good he was as Sugar Ray Robinson could do everything .
What an honour to train with him Wow!
HI FRANK GREAT POST .RAY ROBINSON WAS THE GREATEST BOXER EVER.. LOVED YOUR POST ON THE GREAT KEN BUCHANNON .WHAT A GREAT LIGHTWEIGHT KEN WAS..R.I.P. THE GREAT MAN...
Much respect for Ken Buchanan. He was robbed in New York of his title. Duran hit him low after the bell and he couldn't continue. That's a disqualification by any fair assessment. I accept that Duran was controlling the fight and was pounding out a victory, but he was awarded the title thanks to fouling Buchanan, who was a fine champion and a stand-up guy.
Recently discovered your channel and loving it, Frank. Used to box/spar back in the day at Heavyweight but my inner demons/lack of belief/self-doubt never led me to have even one amateur fight, even though I was told I was good and had a heavy hand..subscribed to your great channel anyway and love the content 🥊🥊🥊
@welshieworldwide Thanks for making contact. I hope all is well with you.
@@FranksNobleArt ~ Very well, still healthy and fit and doing a bit where I am now in West London. Thanks very much for the reply and take care and keep doing what you’re doing.. it really is top class content 🥊🥊🥊
What a lovelly story Frank ,you are sir a breath of fresh to youtube and everything boxing . God bless my friend x
I very much appreciate that. Thanks.
Wow what a Story & Privilege..And growing up,my 'Ol man' loved the fight game& was a big Ali fan,but always stated that he thought Sugar Ray Robinson was the G O A T
Hi Frank,
Great content as usual,i hear you rate joe louis as the best heavyweight,i just think his combinations were a thing of beauty,the best puncher ive ever seen...
You almost certainly already know this, Frank, but for people who don't:-
Sugar Ray Robinson's real name was Walker Smith. He never wanted to be a boxer - he wanted to be a professional dancer but his dancing career flopped. There are videos of him dancing with Gene Kelly amongst others.
My Greatest Boxer Of All Time nomination changes constantly but at THIS moment in time I will say Salvador Sanchez.
Best regards
The term “pound for pound” was created because of “Sugar” Ray Robinson! Prior to that … everyone considered the heavyweight Champion to be the best fighter, but when Robinson came along they couldn’t deny his superior skills and thus the term “pound for pound” was used!!!
Fair game 😊
Maybe do a video Randolph Turpin ? That would be an interesting watch.
Turpin was a star.
Wow what a awesome story boxing 🥊 in a church
@Huitzilo3thechamp Almost. It was a church hall.
You must have known blondie mcewan ?
@trash65 I never met him but remember him as a great flyweight and a first-rate cornerman. A well-known name in Scottish amateur boxing. Thank you.
Brilliant he was my coach at the glasgow transport club in fordnuek St
In terms of British Fighters theres one man that's often overlooked.. his name was Len Harvey .. I suggest everyone go look up his career.
My 5 favourite fighters of all time are Marciano, Holyfield, Duran, Locche & Jimmy McLarnin.
Modern? Would have to be Usyk, Pac & Lomachenko.
@wandyy8078 Some great names there. Thanks for your input.
Really interesting , thank you! Sugar Ray Robinson undoubtedly the GOAT. I believe Ali had days as much, so what more proof world you need?
Ali said as much, that should say
Frank's Nobel Art..So out of curiosity Frank,considering u were mixing in some top company,did u ever consider turning Pro? ..And who's ur fav 'Prizefighter' Ken Buchanan ( who i thought was pure class& Roberto Duran picked out as perhaps his most difficult opponent) or Jim Watt? Who i was no fan of&he was given a ridiculous decision over Sean O'grady,but was exposed against Alexis Arguello ( which is no shame by the way)
@jerryoshea3116 When I was around 17-19 and pro managers started to ask me to turn I considered it, but witnessed too many who went down that route without making real money. So, ditched the idea. Buchanan was a stand-out with a fantastic jab and was super-confident. His fight with Jim Watt was a classic.
@FranksNobleArt Yes,being raised in East London,we had the Repton BOXING Club& many fighters coming from the area .( Kirkland Laing lived close by& his Brother in the neighbouring road)
So we were familiar with many of the near misses& u made a career in Journalism,which worked out well for u..( And I think I read one of ur articles on SAF,which was interesting & most def believable)
But it's great that u stayed in contact with the sport..( of Pugilism)
And of course I sparred ( I think I was better with my legs, i.e Kickboxing..I don't think I had the footwork for Amateur Boxing,my only chance was to get inside & up close) And by the way,guess where I live?
Sugar Ray ended up broke, with Alzheimers, dying aged 67.
Like so many fighters.
Sorry Frank but in general boxing peaked in the 1980s and Robinson main problem was he couldn’t get mentally “up” for some fights ….he lost the middleweight championship 5 times losing to some crap fighters like Fullmer , Pender and Bassillio …and he was oh oh so lucky to beat Turpin in the re- match after loads of shinanagins prior to this fight in New York …..yeah classy and stylish but if he couldn’t beat pender he’d have no chance against Hagler …or Leonard or Hearns …
@nobbytang He was well past his best when he fought Pender, but look at his career -175 wins, 19 losses, 6 draws, and 2 no-decisions. He had 109 knockouts, I apppreciate you getting in touch and the debate. Best wishes.
Pender was safety first and I'm doubtful that he would have given Robinson much trouble when Ray was younger. Nothing crap about Basillio and while Fullmer was definitely less skilled than some he was immensely strong and could walk through most fighters best punches.
And may I just add that as soon as he tapped Tommy Hearns on the chin that would be the end of the fight. The Hagler v Hearns bout was certainly ferocious but was only really competitive for one round and most people at the time knew that Hagler wasn't going to lose. Robinson v Hagler would have been an amazing bout. Regarding Ken Buchanan....I think Buchanan v Arguello would have been an amazing match up.
Nope. Sorry. Cool he’s your #1, but, the reality is he could never walk a mile in the two men’s shoes who are in front of him. Robinson is the greatest man to ever box. But, there are two boxers who didn’t seem human but more like boxing gods-Sam Langford & Harry Greb.
1.) Sam Langford
2.) Harry Greb
3.) Sugar Ray Robinson
There are your 3 greatest P4P fighters in history in correct order. If you want to flip 1 & 2 that’s fine. But, there’s a gulf between they and #3. It’s quite simply those two, and then everyone else. At the top of the “everyone else” is Sugar Ray Robinson.
@havrisen6620 This what I like about this channel - it often promoyes debate and you have picked out three exceptional fighters. We all have our favourites and Greb for sure was an incredible fighter. So, your top three represents a great selection. Thank you fir your contribution.