I just really hope it has more room to breathe. Ruby and the doctor barely had any of those moments where they're just chilling in the tardis and I feel like I really didn't get to know either of them as a character because of it.
yeah, if it had scenes in the tardis itd be way better also the tardis being hard to fly they fr made the tardis a background character this season lol
I agree with that partly that they won't have been able to take into account the feedback from season 1. That said RTD did have great series in the past and there are also some different writers in the mix this time and it looks like it will be more serialised too so hopefully all those factors allow for it to be better and make season 1 more of a fluke! But I'm not setting my hopes too high either; cautiously optimistic though!
2:58 I get upset every time I see Capaldi's TARDIS as I know we'll never see it (or anything like it) again. Simultaneously, I'm always really happy when I _do_ see it whilst rewatching the era, as I can't get enough of how sleek, cozy, and _alive_ it feels.
@@RabbiB0Y That's definitely a hot take when Capaldi's exists. Also, there's just too much empty volume and not enough useable floorspace for furniture to make up for it.
I personally don’t understand the “it’s not made for me anymore” trend that’s sprouting up these days. Like if it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work. Lots of people didn’t like it and it’s becoming a bit of a worrying complacency to just blame people’s TASTES than to be critical of the product itself. Doctor Who can be for everyone right NOW. There’s such little reason for it not to be. It’s probably the most universal show interms of its demographic. It can be scary, slow, fast, fun and heartfelt at the same time.
I think it needs to stop being so childish children like watching stuff that isng childish because it makes them feel older teenagers and adults don't like watching stuff that's childish because it's childish space babies should never have been made honestly
@@sadomensgaudaprime8142people don't like musicals, if you cry every episode when something truly sad happens it completely undermines the acting. If Smith cried every episode, when he broke down before trenzalore it would mean less.
@HT-lr1rs LBH, Davies it trying to make the show as Disney friendly as he possibly can. Yes there will be an audience for it, but I would argue that an all singing, all dancing, crying Doctor who is absolutely not what the show should be, to be seen at its best.
I don’t wanna start a bashing on the era. Cause whilst people disliked it, simultaneously, some people did like it. My only feeling is that saying it’s not made for “us” anymore is just starting to become a de facto answer to seem more reasonable. I think a more emotional Doctor could work. It trying to be a musical could work. Etc etc. Just didn’t for me.
You think that is bad. With the exception of John Hurt all the actors who played the Doctor are younger than I am now when they were first cast in the role.
I miss the big TARDIS crew from the RTD1 era, there was a bunch of well developed characters that were easy to connect with emotionally. This time round we barely got the two, and neither of them have been particularly compelling yet :(
@@mayotango1317I think they mean how Mickey, Jackie and Jack felt like part of the team and more apart of the adventure. Whereas now it’s just 14 and Ruby. Her family isn’t really as involved.
i've learnt to stop having high expectations for doctor who over the years so i'm just kind of along for the ride. i'm too attached to this show to stop watching it but i will be mad if it sucks and really pleased if it's good. i'm expecting rtd to drop the ball again so i have very low expectations going in to season 15
My fear of them having Ruby as a recurring character is still the fact that we don't know much about her. It wouldn't feel like someone we've missed and that there'd still be character work do with her. Though I do hope we get some Cybermen in Series 2 (but not with the Master).
5:44 wait a minute... First companion of this era is blond young girl(the same as Rose in series 1). And the second companion is a girl with darker skin color who works in hospital(the same as Martha in series 3). I feel like Russell is just copying himself.
Imo that is only true for 2 "New Who" Doctors. - Series 3 IS better than Series 2 - Series 6 IS NOT better than Series 5 - Series 9 IS NOT better than Series 8 - Series 12 IS better than Series 11 (although not by much😂)
So basically rtd made it so Ruby was super special because no know not even nato but with alien technology can find it until they magically do in the last episode and she has a secret song or something inside her and she can make it snow but guess what she's actually just suoer normal and that was all because tye God of death wanted yo know who her parents where and that old woman cept popping up because she was like a servant of sutehk who'd be on the tardis since pyramids of mars but only staeted doing that in wold blue yonder
Can’t see S2 being any better than the first. It was almost all done and dusted before the backlash I feel if this season fails we won’t get anymore and it will go on a hiatus RTD was once the saviour now he’s the destroyer
Didn't they write and shoot it after or as Season 1 was airing? Means RTD didn't have time to take on any criticism (not that he probably would anyway) and make any changes. So if anything, I think Season 2 will be more of the same.
Moffat, RTD and Chibnall don't write based on reviews, in fact RTD and Moffat specifically told Chibnall to not read anything that is said online and I expect RTD is taking his own advice and not paying any attention to what is being said online.
You've done a sterling job arguing that Season 2 will be better, but unfortunately I have zero faith that will turn out to be true. Season One style, tone and narrative were designed to be successful. So let's assume that they thought it would be. They then go on to film season two, and would not have wanted to change a winning formula. They would have wanted to deliver on a proven success, not meddle with, change or update the formula and risk alienating what they believed would be a whole new fanbase. Nothing can be changed as regards Season Two. The one thing that *can* be changed, however, in response to critical mauling of season one would be the trailer for the upcoming season. This could be recut to focus exclusively on those things which people said were poor, needed changing, or missing from the debut season. That's what I think we're seeing here - a desperate bid to bring in an audience, rather than any likely change or shift of substance to the stories or programme itself. I think you're putting an awful lot of weight on that trailer.
Where do I send my pound? As a Who channel, Im sure there are people that reach out in the industry, thats fine, its how one can make content, but whether one is considered a "schill" or not, I can see a number of content creators struggling to find something positive. When one starts with "I couldnt get invested but series 2's color seems to pop more...". Im sorry, thats struggling...Ive watched since the 70's, I was blown away with its return, I thought it fantastic(?) a new audience found my beloved anti hero awesome too. I havent watched since Capaldi (Pertwee fan, sadly i think they bookend the series nicely), but I did try, and with the Tennant tease, I tried again...this is just not my Doctor, in any iteration and as one thats read DW comics in the 80s, Big Finish, DW magazine, ordered a Tardis clock included issue through ebay, action figures, been accused of looking like "the fucking Master" going out to bars in the 90's, and still consider myself a casual Who fan, this is not for me...I tried, I'm not biased or racist but I feel like im being sold on something and it isnt fun stories . I'm sorry people who have honest opinions about writing or acting are all tossed in with a few bad actors. If something is good, no matter how outrageous or strange to "normal" people, we are going to watch it regardless of politics or bad actors, but that has to go both ways. If this counts as snarky then i thank you for allowing me to post this opinion after watching the whole video (and many of your older ones), just tell me where to send my 2 cents or pound as it were.
I disagree with that. The whole reason Ruby’s mum was ‘important because we thought she was important’ (which is a terrible plot point btw) is because Ruby convinced us of that. Basically, Ruby thought her mum was important, making us and everyone around her think she was important, therefore manifesting her to seem more important. This is NOT the case with Ms Flood. She’s important because she HERSELF made herself out to be important by breaking - and continuing to break - the 4th wall. To put it simply: Ruby’s Mum important because Ruby said so. Ms Flood important because Ms Flood showed us so.
I do hope they pivot towards sci-fi a bit more, because it doesn't have to be very much. If you want to use some monster from folklore in a story, you can still do it. It's only as hard as saying they're some kind of alien or something, but also I think it can make writers more creative to have that little obstacle to work around. Season 1 often felt like the answer to most of my questions would be "just go with it" or "it's space magic lol", so I kinda stopped asking, and I didn't feel particularly invested most of the time. The exceptions were where the threat was properly set up and understandable. It sounds obvious but the whole "how are we going to get out of this one?" question is really important to adventure writing. It's fun to try to figure that out... and it's boring if you know there's no way you could possibly figure it out.
Well it couldn't possibly be worse than (most of) season 1... could it... ? It's sad that they didn't wait to see what the audience thought of season one before filming season two. It kind of shows that no-one cares what the audience thinks (or even who the audience is, since pre-broadcast they didn't know what age range would watch it)
It's cuz it was contracted for 2 seasons and they were seen as a package deal or smtg like that. If they waited you would see ppl saying it's not getting renewed and stuff like that.
They never do anyway, what the audience thinks is never taken into account, in fact RTD and Moffat told Chibnall to never look at what is said online and never look at reviews and considering RTD gave that advice as well as Moffat I imagine he is following that same advice. And I think that's a good thing.
Yes, I've had this feeling as well. I have a strong sense that Series 15 is going to be a huge improvement over 14 (not calling it Season 1 and 2 because that's stupid and also they already aired 60+ years ago).
I definitely think that Doctor Who needs new writers. I think the series also needs a 'bible' of things to not go against. Things set in stone that they do not change, to prevent things like the Timeless Child from reoccuring that... Really divided the fanbase because of their sweeping, broad change out of nowhere with no real meaning or impact. Big Finish, for example, certainly has its fair share of mediocre stories, but has some really fresh writing, with some of their stories in my opinion being much BETTER than the show itself, never stepping on the toes of major canon. I think Doctor Who was... 'wounded' by only really having three major showrunners with very few other writers coming in here and there, who eventually kind of felt like they really can just do whatever they want with the show, past stories and history be damned. It needs fresh blood, new outlooks, and it needs to keep its creators and showrunners on a leash. Either that or the show needs another decade or so on hiatus, but that absolutely won't be hapening given all the spinoffs and tie ins coming along now.
"'bible' of things to not go against." I feel like that would be very limiting for the show, Doctor Who should never be limited because it's limitless potential is what makes it such an incredible show in the first place, it's a show that doesn't care about the rules!
@friendlyotaku9525 perhaps bible is too strong a word. But a lot of series have a list of immutable laws, like "the protagonist does not kill", or... An example for doctor who might be that Rassilon claims to have invented regeneration, but the Sisterhood maintains that Regeneration was pioneered on karn, and later stolen by Rassilon. To steal a concept from the show itself ... Most events are in flux. They can be changed, revised, altered. But certain times are fixed points. They must always happen and cannot be changed. The series needs a list of things that are fixed points.
@@Lowehart Doctor Who isn't that kind of show though, it doesn't really have rules that are set in stone and that's part of what makes it so brilliant, it can completely ignore rules like the Doctor often does!
@@friendlyotaku9525 Thats not true at all, the earlier seasons and heck even the modern series had a bunch of rules they followed for the doctor and the things that happen in the show. Just because RTD has come back and said its a show that has no rules doesnt erase history lol. Up until the last several seasons of the show the only unwritten rules that were broken were minor errors by various writers. A lore/character bible like most shows have would help in that aspects when dealing with multiple writers
I’m glad we’re back to more sci-fi because Moffat had done so much with the fantasy-sci-fi during his era so I hope RTD keeps it more alien-esque now. I want to see new alien species, new planets and more of the future rather than these fantastical monsters like the goblins, the maestro etc
I actually really liked season 1, but I can understand why a lot of people didn't have a good time. Im just hoping we get more of the Doctor this season since he was filming other stuff as well during the first season.
Very unlikely to be *much* better, it was filmed in a block with Season 1, so even if RTD was humble enough to ever listen to feedback (he isn't), there would have been no real changes. Gatwa will be S2 more, but as his characterization of the Doctor was part of the problem, if that hasn't changed, I don't see people being reeled back in.
Only big problem I had was that the focus was too much on magic/fantasy. Sure it's fine for a bit, but not all of it. People complain about Daleks always being present, but I actually missed that. Not the Daleks specifically, but just some tie to older Who. Any regular monster from either the classic series or the revival would've made me appreciate it more.
random thought. I hope Belinda Chandra as the doctors new companion can be somewhat like Martha Jones who had a nice life on Earth and used that experience to get a better one in Unit eventually leaving the dr in the end rather than dying or being left.
Hang on a minute Harbo, there wasn't too much wrong with the original 2005 relaunch, it relaunched the series and people seemed pretty enthusiastic about it. That crew (of writers, producers, directors, lighting techs, set designers, camera people etc etc) were new to each other, i would have thought, so making that a reason for the first Gatwa season being shaky seems pretty shaky reasoning to me?
This "New team" theory doesn't make sense. RTD handpicked his Bad Wolf Productions team. Commencing on Doctor Who content, for 2022's TPO The Doctor. Since then filming has returned to Wales and we have had multiple Moffat stories. None of this is new. Tennant, Donna, Sylvia, Wilf and Sean were pivotal (for Disney). All returning actors. Kate Stewart and UNIT have been a key presence, for about 12 years now. All returning actors. Damn, we've even had the returns of Mel Bush, Sutekh. Teagen, Ace and whatever the "Guardians Of The Edge" was all about. Again... All returning actors.
I am cautiously optimistic about S3, and going to go for S2 with zero expectations, good or bad. Good news and bad news pretty much cancel each other out. For example, four new writers announcement is great news, one of them being McTighe is not, especially since his episode will be at least 10% of the season.
5:00 I tend to bristle a bit when people call it a badly written _ending_ to Ruby's mystery. The ending is the part where we get disappointed, because it doesn't give us a good resolution after all that set-up. But if they didn't have a good resolution in mind when they wrote their mystery, then the problem isn't just in the ending. The whole mystery was badly written
@@evie._.lake20 As in like if you aren't gonna be checking out the new season I assume you wouldn't make an edit for Belinda who she plays. I just say this cuz you'd made one for Ruby.
@@Comicbroe405 Ohhh I see your point! Yeah, I probably won't, but she is gorgeous. Depends on how I feel in a few months. I kept defending this show since series 11 knowing it wasn't great and now I just had enough. Again, thank you so much
The way I see it, this latest season had a simular quality level to S2 of the revival. If patterns are to be believed then this next season should be a banger.
The problem is that season 2 was filmed before they saw the audience reaction to season 1 and that has means there can have been no course correction. At best I think the viewership for this coming season will remain static but I fear the viewership will continue to decline. Russell T Davies does need to dial down the whole LBGTQ agenda, the show was in a bad enough place after Chibnall and Whittaker and it could be the final nail in Doctor Who's coffin. The LBGTQ part of the audience is a very show percentage of those that watch the show and most people don't want to see the Doctor kissing a man, being lectured about his use of pronouns or every other character stating they are gay for no reason at all in regards to the story.
It can’t be much worse While Devils Chord was ok it was spoiled somewhat by the song and dance routine Boom was the only real banger Dot and Bubble was average The rest was way to focused on Ruby Sunday
I’ve just thought of something that I can’t imagine would come to fruition but I hadn’t thought of before: Has anyone considered that Mrs Flood is Clara Oswald? I usually don’t like this kind of theory (Rory is the Master kind of thinking), but she wears clothes very similar to Clara, Clara has her own TARDIS, and she is kiiiiind of immortal? I know she should eventually get her pulse back and eventually die but in terms of canon we don’t really know when that would be… she could live for years and years with her body somehow aging. Just something to consider so I can call out that I predicted it on the 0.01% off chance that it happens 😂
So this year will be better than last year because last year was the first time anyone involved had any experience with this brand new TV show that had no established history whatsoever?
2:54 I think it's unfair that you don't even mention the Chibnall era as if it wouldn't exist here because it had a great cinematography. Not *everything* about that era is bad, you know?
If anything, I think it's safe to say RTD2 has subverted expectations of his era just being more of the same. We're in a more experimental era, and that's super exciting to me
But is it exciting when the showrunner purposefully allows that experimentation to get in the way of writing good stories? I'm all for experimentation, Heaven Sent being a great example of when it's done well, but RTD seems to actively encourage the idea that "being weird" trumps "making things work."
@Jackson-ub1uv I would rather the show experiment and have some stories land well and others miss than have it all just be boring without taking any risks (which is how I felt about most of Series 11)
@@WiloPolis03 I agree, but not if almost _all_ of the episodes fall short because of it and _certainly_ not if the writers and showrunner refuses to put in the effort and actually _try_ to make it work (Boom, Heaven Sent, Blink, etc are all stand-out examples of experimentation working, and it's because Moffat put the time and care into _making_ it work). As it stands, RTD is less _experimenting_ and more "smashing his toys together," refusing to follow the established rules (be that the rules of Doctor Who or just writing in general) or any sort of actual logic, choosing instead to make Doctor Who a fantasy show because "fantasy has no rules" and proclaim that anyone who has any issues with that blatantly incorrect and nonsensical statement or the activism he's shoving in must be homophobic, racist, or both. I personally just don't find it exciting to be let down every week and then be insulted by the showrunner and main lead for not resonating with their "we can do whatever we want regardless of the consequences" attitude and finding the "Doctor's" constant crying and inability to stand up to others to be out of character; that's not fun or entertaining, nor is it right for the audience to be treated like that when all they want to see is a badass guy using his brain to outsmart his enemies and doing his best to help out of kindness.
@Jackson-ub1uv I dunno, I thought the surreal weirdness of episodes like Wild Blue Yonder, The Giggle or 73 Yards were really charming and engaging, I can see why they wouldn't click for some though
@@WiloPolis03 I detest 73 Yards for it's insanely unsatisfying and nonsensical ending. Why did it take until old age for Ruby to travel back in time? _How_ did old Ruby gain time travel? Who was Mad Jack and what was his connection to Roger ap Gwilliam? Without Ruby's curse interfering in the new timeline, who's going to deal with Roger (we absolutely should've been told in _this_ episode that the Doctor was involved rather than waiting until the series finale, and literally would've been as easy as having Ruby question the Doctor on what happened to "the most dangerous Prime Minister" after he'd brought him up at the end)? What was the woman saying that could terrify people in such specific, identical, and targeted ways? Why did Roger resign when Ruby's curse simply makes people want nothing to do with her? Unlike episodes such as Midnight, the unanswered questions in 73 Yards are necessary for the plot to be believable, and their absence just makes things too vague and contrived to be interesting or worth anyone's time.
I’m quite ambivalent about the next series of Doctor Who. I was very disappointed with the previous series because the episodes were bland, inconsistent, messy, lack of character development, rushed and underwelming.
I went back and watched the series again from the Ecclestone reboot, just to see if Id grown out of the show or if it has genuinely been poor for the last few years. And it has genuinely just been poor. Its upsetting how great it was and how much it has fallen. I loved it until the end of Capaldis run. I actually had high hopes with the new specials when they brought Tennant back. It wasnt as good as it had been, but I realised quickly that it was Tennant and Tate that carried those episodes. I thought the casting for the new Doctor showed a lot of promise. But its still just trying to shoehorn things in rather than just produce good stories.
I do not have your confidence, but then, as a Christian, Straight, White, conservative, Right wing, Guy, New Who just is not made for me, so I probably just do not understand it and its *bad Writing* , which I assume is done on Purpose to "subvert the Expectations" of People like me. I miss the Days when it, although Doctor Who was always moderate Left in its message and tone, had good Writing (back in the glory days of Terrance Dicks, Malcolm Hulke and Robert Holmes) and could thus give us both Mister Chinn (an absolute Blithering Idiot whom even I, who am far more like Mister Chinn (including the Garbling!) than I care to admit, find to be absolutely Hilarious!) and the Brigadier (whom everyone loves because he is, well, the Brigadier and basically the most awesome "Army Uncle" ever to appear on TV and endlessly Quotable: "Chappie over there...the one with the wings".. "just for once I would like to meet an Alien menace that Isn't immune to Bullets!" "that'll show 'em!" ) for the "Right wing" as it was made for.... Everyone... and was not just a succession of badly written "Grrr. Trump Bad. Man Bad. Whites Bad" Extreme Left/Woke Twitter Tropes like now due to the show being made, seemingly, only for the Tmblerati :( or could give us a Scientific lecture on Hermaphrodite Invertebrates (Alpha-Centauri, who really was, under *Science* ,an "It" as It was a Hermaphrodite Invertebrate!) without it Descending into "Grrr...Straights Bad! Affirm all 9000 of my made up and non-existent Genders or you are a Nazi!" Unscientific, Feelings based, Nonsense like now, again due to *bad Writing* ! I am just going to go back to the Jon Pertwee (who was actually the first Doctor to Cry, when Aggedor (who became something of a "pet" for the Doctor) was killed in The Monster of Peladon, we did not see the Doctor cry again until Lytton's Death (Yes, *6* , of all Doctors, broke down at that!), while it is Constant, virtually every Episode, with Ncuti however due to *bad Writing* and it makes the Doctor, a Worn Out, Traumatized and Broken old Warrior, a Tired old War-Horse! come across as a Wimp, which the Doctor should never come across as! He is a *Warrior* like the Brigadier (who let us not forget had the Crowning moment of Awesome in Battlefield, facing off against Satan himself...and Winning!), not a Wimp! this is the *Doctor* for goodness sake, the man who has sent whole Dalek Fleets Fleeing in Terror at the very mention of his Name! he should never come across as a Wimp! while it was Ok in the other two examples as both were the result of Genuinely Traumatic Experiences for the Doctor, although I still think the best reaction was at the end of "Warriors of the Deep" with the "Thousand Yard Stare" from Peter Davidson as he whispers in a completely broken Monotone "there should have been another way"...showing the Doctor was too traumatized to even cry....no Emotions left, just sheer, Broken, Trauma, and it is that moment of absolute Devastation that just shows the sadly missed Potential of that Serial, having the Doctor Cry constantly however is just...Disgusting! as that is Not the Doctor!) and Tom Baker Years I think, as they had the one thing New Who is sorely Missing.. *good Writing* ! Without good Writing, series 2 is Doomed before it even Starts, and, basically, I do not think RTD is even Capable of good Writing anymore as he has allowed his Politics to "delete" his Talent!
@@VadersFist95 Then explain the Brigadier, Sgt Benton, Ronson, the Real General Scobie, to some Degree Harry Sullivan, and other such Positive Portrayals of Right Wing Individuals from when Doctor Who was, although left of Centre, written for Everyone to Enjoy? you cannot. Seriously, I have no time for trolls like you, you Absolutely Sicken me, and if you are Typical of the Modern Whovian, no wonder the Writing has gone to Garbage as you are too Busy Re-writing the Shows Audience-Demographics all throughout its History in order to Gate-Keep it for "Approved Woke Audiences Only" to even Notice the Key Stage 1 Level Nonsense being Spewed every time a mouth is Opened! You are Responsible for the death of Doctor Who and I hope you are Ashamed of yourself!
most doctors' second seasons are better than their first ones imo (i mean from what ive watched, still got 8 hartnell/troughton ones to get on dvd and a couple mccoy ones). i did like series 14 tbh. my biggest complaint is the blu ray is £50 (thats like steelbook collectors edition prices for me)
She absolutely does considering the sheer _scope_ of her fourth wall breaks; this isn't the Doctor monologuing to himself or making sly, easily justifiable glances at the camera, this is a character who's regularly acknowledging the audience's presence in a blatant and unmistakable way.
The problems with season 1 had nothing to do with production issues, and the idea that they did because it was new is laughable after you clearly stated it's actually series 15 or 41. Laughable. You just seem like an apologist, the fact is it's gone woke and you'll criticise everything EXCEPT the actual issue. Davros walking around because "We don't want people to think all people in wheelchairs are bad". Honestly it's ridiculous, and so are your arguments.
@@friendlyotaku9525no it hasn’t there’s an obvious change and it’s been hijacked by activist hacks pretending they’re writers you’re a delusional apologist won’t accept reality and people like u are the reason this show is where it’s at.
I doubt that. First of all, RTD wouldn't pull the same twist twice in a row, and second, I think he's learned that that twist was shit and that he shouldn't try it again.
If RTD is writing it then it’ll be crap. The Doctor started off as an older looking, eccentric, unpredictable, slightly aloof, mischievous and erasable charming rebel but now sadly he’s been turned into a superficial, shallow, vain, flirtatious overtly emotional airhead. What was so unique about the Doctor especially in Classic Who was that he didn’t behave just like a human would. RTD damaged that. It’ll be more soap opera fantasy with crap musical numbers and badly written illogical plots.
He's only 4 writing eps & I just find it really annoying that you're acting like that's all that RTD can do with the Doctor. He's got more than enough eps to prove how wrong you are. Wild Blue Yonder was still written by him. And DW isn't just the classic show, it has evolved beyond that. Also the 5th Doctor behaved very human.
@ The fifth Doctor didn’t behave very human. He never cried. He never went around flirting with anyone. He was pretty much still the Doctor except in a younger body. Modern Who now turns the Doctor into a flirt and someone who can use his special powers to heal.
Not fully true tho. His personality was definitely more softer than the previous ones. He always preferred a more happy outlook. And dude he literally played cricket. And that's weird last point.
@ Yes Cricket, that’s in keeping with the British culture and eccentricity. The previous Doctors could also show empathy like the fifth does but none of the Classic Doctors would never want to get off with anyone. They never would come out with lines like “Babes! And “Sweetheart! That sounds more like Jackie Tyler.
@PaulRichards-vz4pl Yeah British culture not Timelord, it was obviouly an attempt to make him more human. And why do you always just go on about the romance so much? It wasn't an insanely big part only 10/Rose and River. Moffat fixed it with Clara too. Also "babe" & "sweetheart" are words that are clearly exclusive to 15. It's like catchphrases every NuWho Doctor had. You're really losing it over that?
In my opinion season one wasn’t bad other than the finally but I also think in ten years the only episodes anyone will really remember from it are 73 Yards, Dot and Bubble, and maybe Rough.
I already love Belinda and I can tell she's gonna be a really cool companion. Ruby was fun but got boring quickly due to the unnatural lack of any conflict that even the Doctor and Rose had at times.
Ruby is my least favorite companion in all of new who, she was more of a plot device than a character and I really hope they fix that with the new companion this season
All I'm saying is the return of rtd is what kept me going after almost dropping out during 13th run. I hope season 2 better than season 1 and I agree with all your complaints but if its not I don't think I'd be interested in watching a season 3
If this is only 8 episodes it’s gonna be just as rushed I liked season 1 or season 14 but it needed like 10 episodes I think every show needs to be 10 episodes per season in general the reason we are getting “bad series” is because 6 or 8 is just way to short for any series it’s not enough time to do anything per series same with episode length needs to be over an hour like other shows because the length now per episode is not good enough to wrap up a weekly story that’s contained just my opinions I guess but I know people will agree
Ruby as a companion reminds me of Clara in series 7. I really like Season 1 Ruby and Series 7 Clara and if this comparison continues that can only mean good things
Not everything is perfect. Watch the early model era episodes of Thomas, and then you'll understand what I mean. If underground Ernie got another season, it would have been better than season one heck the improved models say otherwise, though it's mainly a sign of the technology getting better and what series two of the show would have looked like if they continued making further seasons instead of canceling it early with the prior false hopes that UE would derail TTE because any studio thought anything pre chugginton was going to destroy Thomas and claim the mantel. Obviously, that didn't happen, but I'm getting ahead of myself point is that both Thomas and doctor who as franchises, aren't perfect they are bound to have weak episode's that the fandoms will rip apart
I have to agree with you I liked Season 1 but I didn’t much enjoyed it as much as I thought I did though there were some excellent moments but I have to say that Ruby was a OK Companion despite her arc just being a bit floppy, so I’m hoping Season 2 will be much better then Season 1 and I think Belinda will be much better than Ruby
Sorry, I don't share your optimism and I am no longer prepared to give DW the benefit of the doubt, as I had been doing for years, even through all the eye-bleeding wretchedness of Season 1, right up to the foul stink of dog shit that was Empire of Death. Your assessment of the next season, on the back of one trailer, seems not so much reading between the lines but outright wishful thinking and projection. It's as if you're pleading for it to be good. I do understand the motivation, honestly. But, this time round, I ain't buying. I finally tapped out with JTTW and from what I've heard and seen in multiple reviews, including yours, I'm 100% happy in that choice. And I won't be going back until such time that everyone - absolutely everyone - who has been involved in the making of the programme since 2005 doesn't get within a hundred miles of it ever again. They're creatively exhausted, out of ideas and have nothing interesting to say. As a result, the show is stagnant, predictable, lifeless, feeble and boring, endlessly recycling its hoary old 'new Who' tricks, failing to thrill, excite, intrigue or engage. It has already long passed being merely moribund and is now well settled into terminal rot. So, good luck. I hope your cautiously optimistic anticipation meets reality at least halfway. But I won't be putting any money on it. I might watch your channel to find out. But I certainly won't be watching any more of RTD's astonishingly ill-advised second coming.
Well it certainly can't be any worse, the trailer showed more promise. The only thing to be worried about it RTD's lack of consideration for the majority feedback, which was the constant crying, he acknowledged it and said there'd be a lot more of it. Hopefully this season is actually for Doctor Who fans and not just to satisfy his ego and own mediocre fan fiction. He hyped up one of the episodes again as one of the best things he's written, but said the same thing about 73 Yards so yea it's a bit hard to put faith in him atm.
@friendlyotaku9525 it doesn't work for the general characterisation though, the Doctor doesn't cry at every emotional trigger, it's not just character assassination, it's lazy, predictable and has no impact when it's so constant.
@@tomhyde9938 That's who THIS Doctor is though, he's been shaped by what he's been through and because of his rehab he's a lot more emotionally open, it makes sense in the context of the story.
@friendlyotaku9525 it only makes sense from the point of the excuse RTD gave so he could make him cry all the time, but that's all it was, an excuse. There's nothing clever or interesting about it, the Doctor will now cry at the drop of a hat just because of some dialogue about doing therapy backwards, it's ridiculous and dishonorable to the character's legacy.
if season 2 were to be as bad or worse then season 1 i fear for the budget for near future as who in their right minds would waste millions of pounds on a show that struggles to meet end meet when it comes to profit and viewership which could also make it easier for disney to cut ties with bbc deal.
I'm looking forward to it being better. I'm not sure it could be much worse overall. There were some crackling misfires, only a few unquestionably good episodes, and an overall aimless and wasted season of weak characterizations, vague meandering and general dreariness.
I have hopes season 2 will be better. I might get flak for this but imo russells first 2 seasons last time round where his weakest but season 3 and 4 are amazing. He does tend to get better as he goes. But the shows need to slow down. Season 1s episodes always felt rushed to me and i feel like i still dont know this doctor.
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I know you are hopeful but this was written at the same time as season 1. It will probably play out the exact same way
what does that mean, people who don't share your point of view, or criticise you. As a you tuber you should learn to (as the kids say) Suck it up.
I won't bother saying the obvious but I will put £1 into the next tin thrust in my face.
Not being snarky if you can’t handle criticism don’t do TH-cam
I just really hope it has more room to breathe. Ruby and the doctor barely had any of those moments where they're just chilling in the tardis and I feel like I really didn't get to know either of them as a character because of it.
yeah, if it had scenes in the tardis itd be way better
also the tardis being hard to fly
they fr made the tardis a background character this season lol
A lot of this I think can be attributed to the 8 episode count unfortunately
that and not a whole lot of time inside the TARDIS
It's like you berly know 15 but 9 who only hade 1 season and was rtds first season you knew him as soon as he appeared in rose
@@WiloPolis03it was such a bad idea to have an episodic series about adventure only having 8 40 minute episodes
With the fact it was filmed before season "1" came out makes me doubtful that any major improvements will be made
Yeah other then improvements in editing and VFX it should be fairly comparable
I agree with that partly that they won't have been able to take into account the feedback from season 1. That said RTD did have great series in the past and there are also some different writers in the mix this time and it looks like it will be more serialised too so hopefully all those factors allow for it to be better and make season 1 more of a fluke! But I'm not setting my hopes too high either; cautiously optimistic though!
2:58 I get upset every time I see Capaldi's TARDIS as I know we'll never see it (or anything like it) again. Simultaneously, I'm always really happy when I _do_ see it whilst rewatching the era, as I can't get enough of how sleek, cozy, and _alive_ it feels.
Hot take if they furnish the set more the new tardis set would be the best in the series
@@RabbiB0Y That's definitely a hot take when Capaldi's exists. Also, there's just too much empty volume and not enough useable floorspace for furniture to make up for it.
I personally don’t understand the “it’s not made for me anymore” trend that’s sprouting up these days.
Like if it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work. Lots of people didn’t like it and it’s becoming a bit of a worrying complacency to just blame people’s TASTES than to be critical of the product itself.
Doctor Who can be for everyone right NOW. There’s such little reason for it not to be. It’s probably the most universal show interms of its demographic. It can be scary, slow, fast, fun and heartfelt at the same time.
I think it needs to stop being so childish children like watching stuff that isng childish because it makes them feel older teenagers and adults don't like watching stuff that's childish because it's childish space babies should never have been made honestly
@@HudsonMedia is it really so strange to you, that a crying, amoral, Dr whos prone to song and dance numbers is unpopular?
@@sadomensgaudaprime8142people don't like musicals, if you cry every episode when something truly sad happens it completely undermines the acting. If Smith cried every episode, when he broke down before trenzalore it would mean less.
@HT-lr1rs LBH, Davies it trying to make the show as Disney friendly as he possibly can. Yes there will be an audience for it, but I would argue that an all singing, all dancing, crying Doctor who is absolutely not what the show should be, to be seen at its best.
I don’t wanna start a bashing on the era.
Cause whilst people disliked it, simultaneously, some people did like it.
My only feeling is that saying it’s not made for “us” anymore is just starting to become a de facto answer to seem more reasonable.
I think a more emotional Doctor could work. It trying to be a musical could work. Etc etc.
Just didn’t for me.
You think you’re having a crisis about being older than a companion for the first time?
Ncuti is the first DOCTOR who is younger than me 😳😳😳
You think that is bad. With the exception of John Hurt all the actors who played the Doctor are younger than I am now when they were first cast in the role.
I miss the big TARDIS crew from the RTD1 era, there was a bunch of well developed characters that were easy to connect with emotionally. This time round we barely got the two, and neither of them have been particularly compelling yet :(
The only big TARDIS crew was the Pond family and River Song.
@@mayotango1317I think they mean how Mickey, Jackie and Jack felt like part of the team and more apart of the adventure. Whereas now it’s just 14 and Ruby. Her family isn’t really as involved.
@@Gamelover254This is Doctor Who. No family Who.
@@mayotango1317 "You know, you act like such a lonely man. But look at you! You’ve got the biggest family on Earth." -Sarah Jane Smith, RTD1
@@tobitobi2003 And they are so usseles in that story.
i've learnt to stop having high expectations for doctor who over the years so i'm just kind of along for the ride. i'm too attached to this show to stop watching it but i will be mad if it sucks and really pleased if it's good. i'm expecting rtd to drop the ball again so i have very low expectations going in to season 15
Real tbh
My fear of them having Ruby as a recurring character is still the fact that we don't know much about her. It wouldn't feel like someone we've missed and that there'd still be character work do with her.
Though I do hope we get some Cybermen in Series 2 (but not with the Master).
I want to hear again the iconic Cybermen theme by Murray Gold so much.
5:44 wait a minute...
First companion of this era is blond young girl(the same as Rose in series 1).
And the second companion is a girl with darker skin color who works in hospital(the same as Martha in series 3).
I feel like Russell is just copying himself.
or maybe they're just people :D
I was thinking the exact same thing! :D
Rose and ruby are both names for red. If he brings Anita back for series 3, I call bullshit.
I felt this about the episodes too! Very similar to past RTD
Also the start of space babies was just a rip off of rose
The Harvest Bringer? Wow they’re really stretching this Harbinger anagram reveal, first Henry then Harriet Arbinger😂
a Doctor's second series is usually better than their first (Series 6 being the exception)
I think 6 was still good but yeh, 5 was basically perfect
Imo that is only true for 2 "New Who" Doctors.
- Series 3 IS better than Series 2
- Series 6 IS NOT better than Series 5
- Series 9 IS NOT better than Series 8
- Series 12 IS better than Series 11 (although not by much😂)
@@mrzakyboy3453bang on
@@mrzakyboy3453idk man series 9 is pretty 🔥
@@mrzakyboy3453id say 9 definitely is better than 8 but I'd agree with everything else
I just hope russel stops saying dumb shit online
As long as things start to make sense, iv'e got no clue what happened in season 14.
So basically rtd made it so Ruby was super special because no know not even nato but with alien technology can find it until they magically do in the last episode and she has a secret song or something inside her and she can make it snow but guess what she's actually just suoer normal and that was all because tye God of death wanted yo know who her parents where and that old woman cept popping up because she was like a servant of sutehk who'd be on the tardis since pyramids of mars but only staeted doing that in wold blue yonder
@@Pat12379 wall of text bro
@@Pat12379 None of that makes any sense
Can’t see S2 being any better than the first. It was almost all done and dusted before the backlash
I feel if this season fails we won’t get anymore and it will go on a hiatus
RTD was once the saviour now he’s the destroyer
Didn't they write and shoot it after or as Season 1 was airing?
Means RTD didn't have time to take on any criticism (not that he probably would anyway) and make any changes.
So if anything, I think Season 2 will be more of the same.
Moffat, RTD and Chibnall don't write based on reviews, in fact RTD and Moffat specifically told Chibnall to not read anything that is said online and I expect RTD is taking his own advice and not paying any attention to what is being said online.
So, how do you explain him constantly telling us to 'F...Off'?@@friendlyotaku9525
Did you just like not watch the video? This very idea is addressed.
You've done a sterling job arguing that Season 2 will be better, but unfortunately I have zero faith that will turn out to be true. Season One style, tone and narrative were designed to be successful. So let's assume that they thought it would be. They then go on to film season two, and would not have wanted to change a winning formula. They would have wanted to deliver on a proven success, not meddle with, change or update the formula and risk alienating what they believed would be a whole new fanbase. Nothing can be changed as regards Season Two. The one thing that *can* be changed, however, in response to critical mauling of season one would be the trailer for the upcoming season. This could be recut to focus exclusively on those things which people said were poor, needed changing, or missing from the debut season. That's what I think we're seeing here - a desperate bid to bring in an audience, rather than any likely change or shift of substance to the stories or programme itself. I think you're putting an awful lot of weight on that trailer.
Where do I send my pound? As a Who channel, Im sure there are people that reach out in the industry, thats fine, its how one can make content, but whether one is considered a "schill" or not, I can see a number of content creators struggling to find something positive. When one starts with "I couldnt get invested but series 2's color seems to pop more...". Im sorry, thats struggling...Ive watched since the 70's, I was blown away with its return, I thought it fantastic(?) a new audience found my beloved anti hero awesome too. I havent watched since Capaldi (Pertwee fan, sadly i think they bookend the series nicely), but I did try, and with the Tennant tease, I tried again...this is just not my Doctor, in any iteration and as one thats read DW comics in the 80s, Big Finish, DW magazine, ordered a Tardis clock included issue through ebay, action figures, been accused of looking like "the fucking Master" going out to bars in the 90's, and still consider myself a casual Who fan, this is not for me...I tried, I'm not biased or racist but I feel like im being sold on something and it isnt fun stories . I'm sorry people who have honest opinions about writing or acting are all tossed in with a few bad actors. If something is good, no matter how outrageous or strange to "normal" people, we are going to watch it regardless of politics or bad actors, but that has to go both ways. If this counts as snarky then i thank you for allowing me to post this opinion after watching the whole video (and many of your older ones), just tell me where to send my 2 cents or pound as it were.
Mrs Flood in S2 will just be an ordinary person. She was only important because we thought she was important.
I disagree with that. The whole reason Ruby’s mum was ‘important because we thought she was important’ (which is a terrible plot point btw) is because Ruby convinced us of that. Basically, Ruby thought her mum was important, making us and everyone around her think she was important, therefore manifesting her to seem more important.
This is NOT the case with Ms Flood. She’s important because she HERSELF made herself out to be important by breaking - and continuing to break - the 4th wall.
To put it simply:
Ruby’s Mum important because Ruby said so.
Ms Flood important because Ms Flood showed us so.
I think I'm gonna like it no matter what since it give min something to do with my mum
I do hope they pivot towards sci-fi a bit more, because it doesn't have to be very much. If you want to use some monster from folklore in a story, you can still do it. It's only as hard as saying they're some kind of alien or something, but also I think it can make writers more creative to have that little obstacle to work around.
Season 1 often felt like the answer to most of my questions would be "just go with it" or "it's space magic lol", so I kinda stopped asking, and I didn't feel particularly invested most of the time. The exceptions were where the threat was properly set up and understandable. It sounds obvious but the whole "how are we going to get out of this one?" question is really important to adventure writing. It's fun to try to figure that out... and it's boring if you know there's no way you could possibly figure it out.
Well it couldn't possibly be worse than (most of) season 1... could it... ?
It's sad that they didn't wait to see what the audience thought of season one before filming season two. It kind of shows that no-one cares what the audience thinks (or even who the audience is, since pre-broadcast they didn't know what age range would watch it)
It's cuz it was contracted for 2 seasons and they were seen as a package deal or smtg like that. If they waited you would see ppl saying it's not getting renewed and stuff like that.
They never do anyway, what the audience thinks is never taken into account, in fact RTD and Moffat told Chibnall to never look at what is said online and never look at reviews and considering RTD gave that advice as well as Moffat I imagine he is following that same advice.
And I think that's a good thing.
I still miss Nathan Gibson 😢
Yes, I've had this feeling as well. I have a strong sense that Series 15 is going to be a huge improvement over 14 (not calling it Season 1 and 2 because that's stupid and also they already aired 60+ years ago).
I definitely think that Doctor Who needs new writers. I think the series also needs a 'bible' of things to not go against. Things set in stone that they do not change, to prevent things like the Timeless Child from reoccuring that... Really divided the fanbase because of their sweeping, broad change out of nowhere with no real meaning or impact.
Big Finish, for example, certainly has its fair share of mediocre stories, but has some really fresh writing, with some of their stories in my opinion being much BETTER than the show itself, never stepping on the toes of major canon.
I think Doctor Who was... 'wounded' by only really having three major showrunners with very few other writers coming in here and there, who eventually kind of felt like they really can just do whatever they want with the show, past stories and history be damned.
It needs fresh blood, new outlooks, and it needs to keep its creators and showrunners on a leash.
Either that or the show needs another decade or so on hiatus, but that absolutely won't be hapening given all the spinoffs and tie ins coming along now.
"'bible' of things to not go against." I feel like that would be very limiting for the show, Doctor Who should never be limited because it's limitless potential is what makes it such an incredible show in the first place, it's a show that doesn't care about the rules!
@friendlyotaku9525 perhaps bible is too strong a word. But a lot of series have a list of immutable laws, like "the protagonist does not kill", or... An example for doctor who might be that Rassilon claims to have invented regeneration, but the Sisterhood maintains that Regeneration was pioneered on karn, and later stolen by Rassilon.
To steal a concept from the show itself ... Most events are in flux. They can be changed, revised, altered. But certain times are fixed points. They must always happen and cannot be changed.
The series needs a list of things that are fixed points.
@@Lowehart Doctor Who isn't that kind of show though, it doesn't really have rules that are set in stone and that's part of what makes it so brilliant, it can completely ignore rules like the Doctor often does!
@@LowehartKid, that is Doctor Who. The fandom always complains and are jerks.
@@friendlyotaku9525 Thats not true at all, the earlier seasons and heck even the modern series had a bunch of rules they followed for the doctor and the things that happen in the show. Just because RTD has come back and said its a show that has no rules doesnt erase history lol. Up until the last several seasons of the show the only unwritten rules that were broken were minor errors by various writers. A lore/character bible like most shows have would help in that aspects when dealing with multiple writers
I’m glad we’re back to more sci-fi because Moffat had done so much with the fantasy-sci-fi during his era so I hope RTD keeps it more alien-esque now. I want to see new alien species, new planets and more of the future rather than these fantastical monsters like the goblins, the maestro etc
RTD never like the sci-fi element of the show.
Then why did he become show runner of a sci fi show
But it was filmed prior to S1 being released. so no course correction possible.
I actually really liked season 1, but I can understand why a lot of people didn't have a good time. Im just hoping we get more of the Doctor this season since he was filming other stuff as well during the first season.
It is a continuous downward spiral, and has been for some time. The show is now a zombified corpse of its former self, plus tedious messaging.
Very unlikely to be *much* better, it was filmed in a block with Season 1, so even if RTD was humble enough to ever listen to feedback (he isn't), there would have been no real changes. Gatwa will be S2 more, but as his characterization of the Doctor was part of the problem, if that hasn't changed, I don't see people being reeled back in.
Only big problem I had was that the focus was too much on magic/fantasy. Sure it's fine for a bit, but not all of it.
People complain about Daleks always being present, but I actually missed that. Not the Daleks specifically, but just some tie to older Who. Any regular monster from either the classic series or the revival would've made me appreciate it more.
and now it looks like dr who is cancelled thank god
random thought. I hope Belinda Chandra as the doctors new companion can be somewhat like Martha Jones who had a nice life on Earth and used that experience to get a better one in Unit eventually leaving the dr in the end rather than dying or being left.
Hang on a minute Harbo, there wasn't too much wrong with the original 2005 relaunch, it relaunched the series and people seemed pretty enthusiastic about it. That crew (of writers, producers, directors, lighting techs, set designers, camera people etc etc) were new to each other, i would have thought, so making that a reason for the first Gatwa season being shaky seems pretty shaky reasoning to me?
Good point.
Exactly the 2005 revival was amazing with a lower budget it relied on its good writing rather than vapid spectacle
Technically, Joy to the World is the first episode of Season 43. (Season 31 was only 5 episodes and Season 41 was only 3 episodes)
This "New team" theory doesn't make sense.
RTD handpicked his Bad Wolf Productions team. Commencing on Doctor Who content, for 2022's TPO The Doctor. Since then filming has returned to Wales and we have had multiple Moffat stories. None of this is new.
Tennant, Donna, Sylvia, Wilf and Sean were pivotal (for Disney). All returning actors.
Kate Stewart and UNIT have been a key presence, for about 12 years now. All returning actors.
Damn, we've even had the returns of Mel Bush, Sutekh. Teagen, Ace and whatever the "Guardians Of The Edge" was all about. Again... All returning actors.
I am cautiously optimistic about S3, and going to go for S2 with zero expectations, good or bad. Good news and bad news pretty much cancel each other out. For example, four new writers announcement is great news, one of them being McTighe is not, especially since his episode will be at least 10% of the season.
5:00 I tend to bristle a bit when people call it a badly written _ending_ to Ruby's mystery. The ending is the part where we get disappointed, because it doesn't give us a good resolution after all that set-up. But if they didn't have a good resolution in mind when they wrote their mystery, then the problem isn't just in the ending. The whole mystery was badly written
Too busy touching grass those days
3:00 - It is the Eccleston run, and I refuse to acknowledge it any other way.
Doesn't matter, I'm not watching it but I hope it is for the people who want to continue watching. I've lost hope, it's just not for me anymore
Nice to see you here, you make great edits. Also this kinda sucks cuz that means nothing for Varada Sethu's character.
@@Comicbroe405 Awe thank you :)) What do you mean by Varada Sethu's character?
@@evie._.lake20 As in like if you aren't gonna be checking out the new season I assume you wouldn't make an edit for Belinda who she plays. I just say this cuz you'd made one for Ruby.
@@Comicbroe405 Ohhh I see your point! Yeah, I probably won't, but she is gorgeous. Depends on how I feel in a few months.
I kept defending this show since series 11 knowing it wasn't great and now I just had enough. Again, thank you so much
@evie._.lake20 No issues at all as you're not obligated or smtg lol. And welcome!
The only thing I liked about season 1 was Millie Gibson, so I doubt I'll like much of season 2.
I just wonder if next season is gonna have a 4 episode streak that lands as spectacular for me as Devil’s Chord through Dot & Bubble.
The way I see it, this latest season had a simular quality level to S2 of the revival. If patterns are to be believed then this next season should be a banger.
If Season 1 was Series 2 then Season 2 will be the equivalent to Series 3!
The problem is that season 2 was filmed before they saw the audience reaction to season 1 and that has means there can have been no course correction. At best I think the viewership for this coming season will remain static but I fear the viewership will continue to decline. Russell T Davies does need to dial down the whole LBGTQ agenda, the show was in a bad enough place after Chibnall and Whittaker and it could be the final nail in Doctor Who's coffin. The LBGTQ part of the audience is a very show percentage of those that watch the show and most people don't want to see the Doctor kissing a man, being lectured about his use of pronouns or every other character stating they are gay for no reason at all in regards to the story.
It can’t be much worse
While Devils Chord was ok it was spoiled somewhat by the song and dance routine
Boom was the only real banger
Dot and Bubble was average
The rest was way to focused on Ruby Sunday
I’ve just thought of something that I can’t imagine would come to fruition but I hadn’t thought of before:
Has anyone considered that Mrs Flood is Clara Oswald? I usually don’t like this kind of theory (Rory is the Master kind of thinking), but she wears clothes very similar to Clara, Clara has her own TARDIS, and she is kiiiiind of immortal? I know she should eventually get her pulse back and eventually die but in terms of canon we don’t really know when that would be… she could live for years and years with her body somehow aging. Just something to consider so I can call out that I predicted it on the 0.01% off chance that it happens 😂
could not get any worse!
It had BETTER be an improvement on Season 1. If it's not?
I think it's fair to say Disney might pull the plug
So this year will be better than last year because last year was the first time anyone involved had any experience with this brand new TV show that had no established history whatsoever?
Dr who is a lost cause
Having animation alone in an episode is a plus for me
I’m cautiously optimistic for season 2, but I also don’t have high hopes for:/
2:54 I think it's unfair that you don't even mention the Chibnall era as if it wouldn't exist here because it had a great cinematography. Not *everything* about that era is bad, you know?
Belinda not being related to Rani would be a major misstep. Why not make use of how they share the same surname of Chandra?
I'm not holding out on it. Deep down I wanted Dr Who to be like X files in terms of theme, but that's not going to happen.
Thank gawd!
Im sorry what 🤣
Is that Mrs Flood with the theatre binoculars or Dita Garbo from Drag Race UK season 6 ? 😂
If anything, I think it's safe to say RTD2 has subverted expectations of his era just being more of the same. We're in a more experimental era, and that's super exciting to me
But is it exciting when the showrunner purposefully allows that experimentation to get in the way of writing good stories? I'm all for experimentation, Heaven Sent being a great example of when it's done well, but RTD seems to actively encourage the idea that "being weird" trumps "making things work."
@Jackson-ub1uv I would rather the show experiment and have some stories land well and others miss than have it all just be boring without taking any risks (which is how I felt about most of Series 11)
@@WiloPolis03 I agree, but not if almost _all_ of the episodes fall short because of it and _certainly_ not if the writers and showrunner refuses to put in the effort and actually _try_ to make it work (Boom, Heaven Sent, Blink, etc are all stand-out examples of experimentation working, and it's because Moffat put the time and care into _making_ it work).
As it stands, RTD is less _experimenting_ and more "smashing his toys together," refusing to follow the established rules (be that the rules of Doctor Who or just writing in general) or any sort of actual logic, choosing instead to make Doctor Who a fantasy show because "fantasy has no rules" and proclaim that anyone who has any issues with that blatantly incorrect and nonsensical statement or the activism he's shoving in must be homophobic, racist, or both. I personally just don't find it exciting to be let down every week and then be insulted by the showrunner and main lead for not resonating with their "we can do whatever we want regardless of the consequences" attitude and finding the "Doctor's" constant crying and inability to stand up to others to be out of character; that's not fun or entertaining, nor is it right for the audience to be treated like that when all they want to see is a badass guy using his brain to outsmart his enemies and doing his best to help out of kindness.
@Jackson-ub1uv I dunno, I thought the surreal weirdness of episodes like Wild Blue Yonder, The Giggle or 73 Yards were really charming and engaging, I can see why they wouldn't click for some though
@@WiloPolis03 I detest 73 Yards for it's insanely unsatisfying and nonsensical ending. Why did it take until old age for Ruby to travel back in time? _How_ did old Ruby gain time travel? Who was Mad Jack and what was his connection to Roger ap Gwilliam? Without Ruby's curse interfering in the new timeline, who's going to deal with Roger (we absolutely should've been told in _this_ episode that the Doctor was involved rather than waiting until the series finale, and literally would've been as easy as having Ruby question the Doctor on what happened to "the most dangerous Prime Minister" after he'd brought him up at the end)? What was the woman saying that could terrify people in such specific, identical, and targeted ways? Why did Roger resign when Ruby's curse simply makes people want nothing to do with her?
Unlike episodes such as Midnight, the unanswered questions in 73 Yards are necessary for the plot to be believable, and their absence just makes things too vague and contrived to be interesting or worth anyone's time.
Does this new companion also work at the hospital? It's Martha pt. 2?
Then Anita can return for series 16/3. To be Donna 2.
you forgot to mention that we'll see more of Ncuti! He was so busy during season 1 that we got two Doctor-lite episodes!
I’m quite ambivalent about the next series of Doctor Who. I was very disappointed with the previous series because the episodes were bland, inconsistent, messy, lack of character development, rushed and underwelming.
I went back and watched the series again from the Ecclestone reboot, just to see if Id grown out of the show or if it has genuinely been poor for the last few years. And it has genuinely just been poor. Its upsetting how great it was and how much it has fallen. I loved it until the end of Capaldis run. I actually had high hopes with the new specials when they brought Tennant back. It wasnt as good as it had been, but I realised quickly that it was Tennant and Tate that carried those episodes. I thought the casting for the new Doctor showed a lot of promise. But its still just trying to shoehorn things in rather than just produce good stories.
Yeah, you can see how much the show sucks now if you watch literally any episode prior to 2018.
If they make a eurovision episode calling it now going to be trash
I do not have your confidence, but then, as a Christian, Straight, White, conservative, Right wing, Guy, New Who just is not made for me, so I probably just do not understand it and its *bad Writing* , which I assume is done on Purpose to "subvert the Expectations" of People like me.
I miss the Days when it, although Doctor Who was always moderate Left in its message and tone, had good Writing (back in the glory days of Terrance Dicks, Malcolm Hulke and Robert Holmes) and could thus give us both Mister Chinn (an absolute Blithering Idiot whom even I, who am far more like Mister Chinn (including the Garbling!) than I care to admit, find to be absolutely Hilarious!) and the Brigadier (whom everyone loves because he is, well, the Brigadier and basically the most awesome "Army Uncle" ever to appear on TV and endlessly Quotable: "Chappie over there...the one with the wings".. "just for once I would like to meet an Alien menace that Isn't immune to Bullets!" "that'll show 'em!" ) for the "Right wing" as it was made for.... Everyone... and was not just a succession of badly written "Grrr. Trump Bad. Man Bad. Whites Bad" Extreme Left/Woke Twitter Tropes like now due to the show being made, seemingly, only for the Tmblerati :( or could give us a Scientific lecture on Hermaphrodite Invertebrates (Alpha-Centauri, who really was, under *Science* ,an "It" as It was a Hermaphrodite Invertebrate!) without it Descending into "Grrr...Straights Bad! Affirm all 9000 of my made up and non-existent Genders or you are a Nazi!" Unscientific, Feelings based, Nonsense like now, again due to *bad Writing* !
I am just going to go back to the Jon Pertwee (who was actually the first Doctor to Cry, when Aggedor (who became something of a "pet" for the Doctor) was killed in The Monster of Peladon, we did not see the Doctor cry again until Lytton's Death (Yes, *6* , of all Doctors, broke down at that!), while it is Constant, virtually every Episode, with Ncuti however due to *bad Writing* and it makes the Doctor, a Worn Out, Traumatized and Broken old Warrior, a Tired old War-Horse! come across as a Wimp, which the Doctor should never come across as! He is a *Warrior* like the Brigadier (who let us not forget had the Crowning moment of Awesome in Battlefield, facing off against Satan himself...and Winning!), not a Wimp! this is the *Doctor* for goodness sake, the man who has sent whole Dalek Fleets Fleeing in Terror at the very mention of his Name! he should never come across as a Wimp! while it was Ok in the other two examples as both were the result of Genuinely Traumatic Experiences for the Doctor, although I still think the best reaction was at the end of "Warriors of the Deep" with the "Thousand Yard Stare" from Peter Davidson as he whispers in a completely broken Monotone "there should have been another way"...showing the Doctor was too traumatized to even cry....no Emotions left, just sheer, Broken, Trauma, and it is that moment of absolute Devastation that just shows the sadly missed Potential of that Serial, having the Doctor Cry constantly however is just...Disgusting! as that is Not the Doctor!) and Tom Baker Years I think, as they had the one thing New Who is sorely Missing.. *good Writing* !
Without good Writing, series 2 is Doomed before it even Starts, and, basically, I do not think RTD is even Capable of good Writing anymore as he has allowed his Politics to "delete" his Talent!
Doctor who wasnt made for you period.
@@VadersFist95 Then explain the Brigadier, Sgt Benton, Ronson, the Real General Scobie, to some Degree Harry Sullivan, and other such Positive Portrayals of Right Wing Individuals from when Doctor Who was, although left of Centre, written for Everyone to Enjoy? you cannot.
Seriously, I have no time for trolls like you, you Absolutely Sicken me, and if you are Typical of the Modern Whovian, no wonder the Writing has gone to Garbage as you are too Busy Re-writing the Shows Audience-Demographics all throughout its History in order to Gate-Keep it for "Approved Woke Audiences Only" to even Notice the Key Stage 1 Level Nonsense being Spewed every time a mouth is Opened! You are Responsible for the death of Doctor Who and I hope you are Ashamed of yourself!
Now Harbo, this is just huffing copium. I would know because I too am huffing copium (pls be good season 2)
I wonder if 15 leaves this Xmas or the series after
most doctors' second seasons are better than their first ones imo (i mean from what ive watched, still got 8 hartnell/troughton ones to get on dvd and a couple mccoy ones). i did like series 14 tbh. my biggest complaint is the blu ray is £50 (thats like steelbook collectors edition prices for me)
Flood really doesn't need an explanation as to 4th wall breaking.
She absolutely does considering the sheer _scope_ of her fourth wall breaks; this isn't the Doctor monologuing to himself or making sly, easily justifiable glances at the camera, this is a character who's regularly acknowledging the audience's presence in a blatant and unmistakable way.
Please put back the Daleks. There’s no Doctor Who without the Daleks.
Doesn't matter Disney already killed who
It could even be worse, but i will be
The problems with season 1 had nothing to do with production issues, and the idea that they did because it was new is laughable after you clearly stated it's actually series 15 or 41. Laughable. You just seem like an apologist, the fact is it's gone woke and you'll criticise everything EXCEPT the actual issue.
Davros walking around because "We don't want people to think all people in wheelchairs are bad". Honestly it's ridiculous, and so are your arguments.
Because saying it's "gone woke" is 1. not a valid criticism and 2. Doctor Who IS and has always been "woke"
@@friendlyotaku9525no it hasn’t there’s an obvious change and it’s been hijacked by activist hacks pretending they’re writers you’re a delusional apologist won’t accept reality and people like u are the reason this show is where it’s at.
i feel like new doctor who has a trend of a doctors second series being better regardless of the quality of their first series
My prediction on Mrs Flood: another "she means nothing lol. you all focused too much on her and made her important by obsessing over" character.
I doubt that. First of all, RTD wouldn't pull the same twist twice in a row, and second, I think he's learned that that twist was shit and that he shouldn't try it again.
@totally_not_elai at this point, I don't think we know who RTD is anymore
i genuinely liked series 14 but i hope series 15 is way way better
If RTD is writing it then it’ll be crap. The Doctor started off as an older looking, eccentric, unpredictable, slightly aloof, mischievous and erasable charming rebel but now sadly he’s been turned into a superficial, shallow, vain, flirtatious overtly emotional airhead. What was so unique about the Doctor especially in Classic Who was that he didn’t behave just like a human would. RTD damaged that. It’ll be more soap opera fantasy with crap musical numbers and badly written illogical plots.
He's only 4 writing eps & I just find it really annoying that you're acting like that's all that RTD can do with the Doctor. He's got more than enough eps to prove how wrong you are. Wild Blue Yonder was still written by him. And DW isn't just the classic show, it has evolved beyond that. Also the 5th Doctor behaved very human.
@ The fifth Doctor didn’t behave very human. He never cried. He never went around flirting with anyone. He was pretty much still the Doctor except in a younger body. Modern Who now turns the Doctor into a flirt and someone who can use his special powers to heal.
Not fully true tho. His personality was definitely more softer than the previous ones. He always preferred a more happy outlook. And dude he literally played cricket. And that's weird last point.
@ Yes Cricket, that’s in keeping with the British culture and eccentricity. The previous Doctors could also show empathy like the fifth does but none of the Classic Doctors would never want to get off with anyone. They never would come out with lines like “Babes! And “Sweetheart! That sounds more like Jackie Tyler.
@PaulRichards-vz4pl Yeah British culture not Timelord, it was obviouly an attempt to make him more human. And why do you always just go on about the romance so much? It wasn't an insanely big part only 10/Rose and River. Moffat fixed it with Clara too.
Also "babe" & "sweetheart" are words that are clearly exclusive to 15. It's like catchphrases every NuWho Doctor had. You're really losing it over that?
In my opinion season one wasn’t bad other than the finally but I also think in ten years the only episodes anyone will really remember from it are 73 Yards, Dot and Bubble, and maybe Rough.
And the first half of the sutek story
Boom is the best episode from that season, it's that & Dot and Bubble. I don't think 73 Yards will be remembered fondly at all
I already love Belinda and I can tell she's gonna be a really cool companion. Ruby was fun but got boring quickly due to the unnatural lack of any conflict that even the Doctor and Rose had at times.
Ruby is my least favorite companion in all of new who, she was more of a plot device than a character and I really hope they fix that with the new companion this season
All I'm saying is the return of rtd is what kept me going after almost dropping out during 13th run.
I hope season 2 better than season 1 and I agree with all your complaints but if its not I don't think I'd be interested in watching a season 3
If this is only 8 episodes it’s gonna be just as rushed I liked season 1 or season 14 but it needed like 10 episodes I think every show needs to be 10 episodes per season in general the reason we are getting “bad series” is because 6 or 8 is just way to short for any series it’s not enough time to do anything per series same with episode length needs to be over an hour like other shows because the length now per episode is not good enough to wrap up a weekly story that’s contained just my opinions I guess but I know people will agree
... because it can't be worse?
Ruby as a companion reminds me of Clara in series 7. I really like Season 1 Ruby and Series 7 Clara and if this comparison continues that can only mean good things
Not everything is perfect. Watch the early model era episodes of Thomas, and then you'll understand what I mean. If underground Ernie got another season, it would have been better than season one heck the improved models say otherwise, though it's mainly a sign of the technology getting better and what series two of the show would have looked like if they continued making further seasons instead of canceling it early with the prior false hopes that UE would derail TTE because any studio thought anything pre chugginton was going to destroy Thomas and claim the mantel. Obviously, that didn't happen, but I'm getting ahead of myself point is that both Thomas and doctor who as franchises, aren't perfect they are bound to have weak episode's that the fandoms will rip apart
I have to agree with you I liked Season 1 but I didn’t much enjoyed it as much as I thought I did though there were some excellent moments but I have to say that Ruby was a OK Companion despite her arc just being a bit floppy, so I’m hoping Season 2 will be much better then Season 1 and I think Belinda will be much better than Ruby
Just give me a decent season
It’ll be fewer episodes and even less people will watch?
It's still 8 eps.
I'd rather touch grass than watch any part of this mess of a show. Spoiler: Ncuti cries in every episode.
i hope season 15 it's really a step up,to series 14 ,and maybe mrs flood it 's the black guardian,i don't know,but i don't care
Ruby left too early. The character Development is less
Better than Space babies, drag queens and dance numbers?
That's not a high bar,,,,
Sorry, I don't share your optimism and I am no longer prepared to give DW the benefit of the doubt, as I had been doing for years, even through all the eye-bleeding wretchedness of Season 1, right up to the foul stink of dog shit that was Empire of Death. Your assessment of the next season, on the back of one trailer, seems not so much reading between the lines but outright wishful thinking and projection. It's as if you're pleading for it to be good. I do understand the motivation, honestly. But, this time round, I ain't buying.
I finally tapped out with JTTW and from what I've heard and seen in multiple reviews, including yours, I'm 100% happy in that choice. And I won't be going back until such time that everyone - absolutely everyone - who has been involved in the making of the programme since 2005 doesn't get within a hundred miles of it ever again. They're creatively exhausted, out of ideas and have nothing interesting to say. As a result, the show is stagnant, predictable, lifeless, feeble and boring, endlessly recycling its hoary old 'new Who' tricks, failing to thrill, excite, intrigue or engage. It has already long passed being merely moribund and is now well settled into terminal rot.
So, good luck. I hope your cautiously optimistic anticipation meets reality at least halfway. But I won't be putting any money on it. I might watch your channel to find out. But I certainly won't be watching any more of RTD's astonishingly ill-advised second coming.
"They're creatively exhausted, out of ideas and have nothing interesting to say." I wouldn't say this is really true but to each their own I suppose.
@@friendlyotaku9525quit glazing this trash it’s lost its way
@ in your opinion, maybe.
Same I will just enjoy the older episodes and appreciate them for what they were
@@friendlyotaku9525 in everyone’s opinion that’s why the viewership is tanking fool
I hope they bring space babies back 😐🥴
Wait till the finale (genuinely)
The space babies should turn evil and become the overarching villains for the entire era
Are you a fan of Doctor Who? Because no fan thinks that
@mattthesilent777RED I loooooove space babies . They should have their own spin off :The Space Babies Chronicles. 😐🥴
@@fatcat8033 Yeah you are not a fan of the show
I am a super super purist as I call it season 45.
Well it certainly can't be any worse, the trailer showed more promise. The only thing to be worried about it RTD's lack of consideration for the majority feedback, which was the constant crying, he acknowledged it and said there'd be a lot more of it. Hopefully this season is actually for Doctor Who fans and not just to satisfy his ego and own mediocre fan fiction. He hyped up one of the episodes again as one of the best things he's written, but said the same thing about 73 Yards so yea it's a bit hard to put faith in him atm.
The 15th Doctor is a more emotionally open Doctor, that's very much the point.
@friendlyotaku9525 it doesn't work for the general characterisation though, the Doctor doesn't cry at every emotional trigger, it's not just character assassination, it's lazy, predictable and has no impact when it's so constant.
@@tomhyde9938 That's who THIS Doctor is though, he's been shaped by what he's been through and because of his rehab he's a lot more emotionally open, it makes sense in the context of the story.
@friendlyotaku9525 it only makes sense from the point of the excuse RTD gave so he could make him cry all the time, but that's all it was, an excuse. There's nothing clever or interesting about it, the Doctor will now cry at the drop of a hat just because of some dialogue about doing therapy backwards, it's ridiculous and dishonorable to the character's legacy.
@@tomhyde9938 So it's explained in the narrative and that's an issue still? And no it is not "dishonorable to the character's legacy"
Nope, not falling for it the bootstrap episode was sloppy writing and total shittt...
Is there anyone still watching this awful garbage?
if season 2 were to be as bad or worse then season 1 i fear for the budget for near future as who in their right minds would waste millions of pounds on a show that struggles to meet end meet when it comes to profit and viewership which could also make it easier for disney to cut ties with bbc deal.
It cant be any worse. The last series was a load of rubbish.
I'm looking forward to it being better. I'm not sure it could be much worse overall. There were some crackling misfires, only a few unquestionably good episodes, and an overall aimless and wasted season of weak characterizations, vague meandering and general dreariness.
I have hopes season 2 will be better. I might get flak for this but imo russells first 2 seasons last time round where his weakest but season 3 and 4 are amazing. He does tend to get better as he goes. But the shows need to slow down. Season 1s episodes always felt rushed to me and i feel like i still dont know this doctor.