Where is Doctor Who Season 3?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ม.ค. 2025
- We're firmly back in Doctor Who territory with Season 2 right around the corner. But people have been wondering "what about Season 3?" There's no confirmation it exists, no production news and conflicting reports about whether Disney will even keep the deal with Doctor Who. So, today, I get to the bottom of it all!
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Season 15*
@Rajesh-Koothrappali *series 15
@69hehehe I said 15…
If they want to do a Third Doctor style shake-up... get rid of Earth. Strand the Doctor somewhere else in the universe and have him in alien environments.
Star Trek and Star Wars shows are taking full advantage of the sci-fi to be out there and crazy with all kinds of worlds and species. Doctor Who has all of time and space in a box. They should use that to their advantage.
The issue with that is definitely budget. A big reason there's a disproportionate amount of Earthbound episodes is because it's extremely expensive to do alien planets.
God that would be incredible. Maybe a whole series based around the time hotel?
That actually would've been so much better then yhe kinda boring last season
That actually would've been so much better then yhe kinda boring last season
@BlueSparxLPs just do what doctor who has allways done very stupid and bad looking alien planets
They don't seem to understand why RTD1 is still so loved. Meaningful plot lines, beautiful scenes, realistic characters. We just want good writing guys like cmon
Like in the very first episode of the revival you understood 9 and rose with just 1 episode I felt like there was nothing about 15 to really understand he was just boring
I don't think rtd gives a shit
@@Pat12379I think it’s worse than that. He does, he just completely misunderstands what made RTD1 work in the first place. The whole idea behind this new era seems to be, if you just bring back the people that made it good to begin with in the same room, it *must* be good again. But you can’t recapture the lightning in a bottle that was RTD1. Either you commit to continuing that style, or you try something completely new. RTD2 chooses the middle, and feels all too familiar without the best parts of what came before.
i hope doctor who regains its magic. For me doctor who hasnt felt the same ever since capaldi left.
They need new writers
@@deststraw6085 Same. The writing has been all over the place. They've made such huge changes to the cannon that seem to be disliked more than liked, and most importantly The Doctor hasn't felt like The Doctor since Capaldi left. Whittaker felt like a very surface level impression of The Doctor, without the depth and nuance of previous portrayals, and Gatwa doesn't even feel like he's trying to be the same character to me.
@@The-FishkeeperWhittaker could have been a fine follow up to Matt Smith as the Doctor but I don’t think she works carrying over from Capaldi
@@Pat12379 the next season has 4 guest writers so theyre testing out the waters with writers it seems
If disney does pull out there will be a season 3 just with a lower budget but therell probably be an episode about a evil mouse
If I remember correctly, Dana Terrace - creator of Disney's 'The Owl House' has stated that TOH was cancelled because it's broadcast viewing figures weren't as high as executives would have liked, despite it being a very viral cartoon across the internet.
This makes me unsure of Disney's investment in Doctor Who
You have to put into perspective though that the Owl House was being made by Disney for Disney Channel. Its main goal was to getting viewing figures on that channel not streaming, while Disney's investment in Doctor Who is more focused on getting people to subscribe to Disney+. I'm not so sure how much Disney cares about Doctor Who being successful or not on BBC1 as long as it's getting people to pay for Disney+.
You've missed it I'm afraid. It was in 1965 / 1966.
Fanbase after Series 11:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
Fanbase after Series 12:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
Fanbase after Series 13:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
Fanbase after 2022 Specials:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
Fanbase after 60th Anniversary:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
Fanbase after Series 14:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
Fanbase after Series 56:
Doctor Who is cancelled forever and ever and there’ll never be another episode ever again!
honestly so real bro
Real
Heck, there were news articles back in 1966 from people saying this about the change from Hartnell to Troughton.
Literally
It's just an endless cycle
I'll never understand how everyone on the production team said OK to Space Babies being the first episode..
Clearly they knew it was bad because the devil's cord came out at the same time and I actually liked the devil's cord but they should've used the beatls more
@@Pat12379I mean that was weird too. Who greenlight a six month time skip in the SECOND EPISODE which aired the same day as the first episode? That "As you know, Bob..." dialogue still pisses me off. Why the hell am I listening to two new characters who I just saw meet tell each other stuff they apparently already told each other off screen? Devil's chord 100% should've been the opener, but it also should've been far better written and a two parter to properly introduce us to how the pantheon is going to be an enemy going forward and more importantly who the new Doctor is character wise. Then give us Rogue as a far more standard Doctor Who story. Then ramp things up starting from Boom. Also for the love of God do more episodes. The amount of episodes where the Doctor or Ruby or both weren't that present for their first seasons was awful.
I don’t know how they said “okay”to the script
It really feels like it should've been in the middle of the season. The dialogue doesn't even make sense based on it being the first episode. You're telling me Ruby and the Doctor traveled for 6 months at that point and have built up enough of a relationship for him to give her a Tardis key? And not only that, but then Boom a couple episodes later its the first time she's been on an alien planet?
I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a mid-season episode, which would've been better. Not sure how it ended up as the premier episode.
"nothing important,
it can just be a bit of fluff"
is what most people reply with
I don’t really see Disney ending the production deal as a negative. Doctor who doesn’t need a huge budget, and I’m sure another streaming service will jump on it for non uk watchers. Hopefully it deamericanises it abit
Yeah I mainly hope that it will become less American and more British, but hopefully RTD will bring down the scale a bit and have really good story episodes rather than episodes where Ncuti Gatwa is running around all the time.
I'm sure the budget they need is 95% of it
@@arran4285 doctor who doesn’t need a big budget, never really did, even in the first seasons of the revival, which are consistently are ranked some of the best episodes
@@blueberrycranberrycherry That why i said it needed 95% of the budget they do have with Disney
The first seasons of the revival WERE high budget though. We tend to forget at the time there were fans saying the revival looked too good, and that it should all go back to being made of cardboard like in classic. The high budget is needed. You can't expect Doctor Who to be able to compete with other shows on television if you're not giving it a budget that makes that possible. The reason the 2005 revival worked so well was because of how they modernized it. They made it able to compete with other popular shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The problem isn't with the budget being too high. It's with how it's being used across the season.
A lot of people try to see reflections between new who and classic who, if we were to do that I see current Doctor Who at the 7th Doctors time. I feel like things may not get renewed for a season 3 and instead either Ncuti will leave or we just get like 3-4 more specials before a hiatus
I remember reading that Disney wanted certain rights from BBC to Bluey . Dr Who was part of that deal and I don’t think Dr Who has done well enough to remain on Disney. They aren’t going to bad mouth Season 2 before it airs.
I think Doctor Who has been feeling like the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise during the "meta" era, which as Harbo has said relies on nostalgia a bit too much whilst also trying to draw in new audiences that are mostly alienated by the baggage they have to absorb to understand how the franchise works.
No disrespect to the great works Davies, Moffat and other writers have given us throughout NuWho, but Doctor Who needs new writers with fresh blood and know how to engage with the current generation of audiences that watch TV dramas to not only get ratings higher but make the show more memorable for the foreseeable future.
If Disney pulls out, that's fine as Doctor Who has done well to survive as a low budget show anyway.
It aired in 2007, and these were indeed happier times
That was Series 3.😂
@@AnthonySkelly-y9y
Then it was in *_London 1965_*
You mean 1965?
@@qwertyuio404 *we made it!*
Was series 3 happier times? They did Martha dirty and only really improved her in series 4. There were some bangers like Utopia, but that finale was ROUGH. In general it's not one of my favorite series, but I do love me some "All the Strange Creatures"
Give me more claustrophobic ghost stories!
the whole stress re disney not continuing is stupid, doctor who has been made though a 60 year history without American money it will be fine.
Dunno mate not seen it
I think the latest they could go into production to get Season 3 ready for Autumn 2026, is August this year. So there is still time. I believe Season 2 will finish in early to mid May. So that gives Disney 3 months to make a decision. I have a feeling Season 3 will go out mid November of 2026 ending with the finale on Christmas Day, which will also be Ncuti's final episode.
I used to say I'd like if he hade 4 seasons instead of the usual 3 but not anymore they jusy can't write good episodes for him most the good episodes last season bearly hade hik
I’d be fine with that, a little later than I’d like but it’s still a series in 2026
I'm much more curious about what the plan is for the Christmas slot of 2025. There's not enough time to get a special out for then if they begin filming in August. Perhaps they'll have the War Between the Land and the Sea premiere on Christmas day, so there's at least something in the slot.
@@brewster_4 i can't see that happening - i could see them airring War in late November, ending before Christmas - and then Russell spinning us not getting a christmas special by saying, "we thought you'd be Who'd out by the epic War Between, so we are having a break this year". But I can't see War landing on Christmas Day, it's far too niche. Maybe a New Years Day start date? I could see that.
"Where is season 3?"
Mostly junked, sadly. One day I'll get to watch The Myth Makers...
The more important Question is: When will Series 10 and *a Lesser Extent* 14's Soundtrack Be Released?
and the 60th anniversary!
@@brewster_4 Yes I think like RoDM and TUAT, it will be with the Series it was with or around.
"Where is james guns superman 2 and 3?????"
I at least think if they stick to how season 2 is advertised -- that is, a companion who just wants to get home, and a journey to get back to earth -- then it at least would have a different approach than normal doctor who, which could be hope for something brighter to come. However, I don't trust what the trailers say anymore.
In terms of reinvention, it would be cool to see either longer multi episode stories, like flux, maybe two of those a year or something OR a Game Of Thrones ensemble style with deeper supporting character arcs and darker themes. Leave the “monster of the week” and every episode is a completely different story with a different writer and director and supporting cast behind for a while
Honestly, I think they could shake it up by ditching the episodic format. I know Flux recently tried it but I think a stronger story could succeed. Especially if the story completely stays off Earth. Have the companion exploring a haunted hosue with a friend only for the friend to be taken by weeping angels. The companion is saved by the Doctor but makes them try and save their friend as well launcing into an adventure in time and space to reunite the companion with their lost friend.
The real question is where are series 4 and 5...... They haven't said a thing
and while we're at it what about 6 and 7. Everyone's been asking about 7.
I think you are all panicking for no reason. Perhaps part of the deal they do 2 series including christmas episodes and after season 1 they could be looking at their deal to decide to renew it or not when season 2 finishes.
Russel did promise but if Disney are looking at two series to see how it goes hes powerless to work on Series 3 until he gets the go ahead despite having the scripts written. It could be down to a discussion between BBC and Disney. Russel Maybe be showrunner but he still has to answer to his higher ups.
Chill out people and im sure things will happen. I do think though the writing needs a little more flavour in some aspects. We need more Halloween episodes lol
They should start making Halloween specials where they are actually horror episodes and j mean actually scarry not just kinda creepy like blink which is a very good episode and it's creepy hut imagine a actual horror episode
@Pat12379 there's so much that can be used for Halloween
@@Pat12379 I do agree that they should start doing scarier episodes more, but we have to remember that Doctor Who's primary audience is children. There's a line when making scary episodes that shouldn't be crossed.
I’m alright with it as it is but I do know it needs to change, I think one big story with little different ones inside
Theres two routes they can go
Shorter episodes but more of them, say 20 30 minute episode, each one different but still apart of the same big story
Or longer but less, like Flux, they were about 50 minutes maybe have 10 60 minutes or similar
I prefer my first suggestion, People like to binge watch now and if they aren’t enjoying an episode, instead of giving up on the rest of the series, they can go on to the next episode which could be much different and because they are shorter they won’t get as bored
Imagine Doctor Who on for 20 weeks of the year, that sure would put it back in the public eye
I just hope series 16 releases next year. I am so tired of gap years, especially since we're barely getting any content as it is. I just want the show to flourish tbh.
8 episodes a year is pathetic and the spinoff only being 5 episodes just keeps ruining the experience for fans.
Remeber when an entire story would be 8 episodes? Like the Invasion
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ it just needs a great huge story every few years. Show should be a legacy franchise . Comes around every few years when the script is right . Series 13 while flawed had a great idea of it all being interconnected under one big threat. Christmas specials should be axed again in favour of just a contemporary doctor tale at Christmas . You don’t need fancy Christmas decorations around the score for it to work on Christmas . Look at the new Wallace and Gromit . Old franchise with no semblance of any Christmas theming and fans lapped it up .
@@hued2542 Fans lapped it up because there was nothing since 2008. Doctor Who thrives on constantly being there. Notice it was at its most successful when we were getting a series every year + two spin offs.
For me the Disney money didn’t really show. Season 1 looked like a BBC production. Look at the quality of Sandman, Strange Nee Worlds, Severance and Silo. Beautiful effects, excellent stories and gripping drama. Doctor Who as a show needs to grow up.
The budget didn’t show because the reports of a 10 million dollar budget per episode were disproved. The budget is the highest it’s ever been at $7 million per episode. However the reason it didn’t show it because didn’t show story wise, we kind of saw it in the cgi. The Show writers (in my opinion) were trying too hard to work on a story that fits the budget, and weren’t thinking about why so many people got into the show, *It’s not meant to be taken extremely seriously*. Sure there are parts of the show where it is serious, but the show itself isn’t supposed to be serious. A lot of the episodes from Season 1 have goofy concepts that get taken to seriously for the tone of the episode. Also, it might just be me but I feel like every episode shoved some sort of life lesson down our throats instead of letting us interpret the lesson on our own
I think it will come in 2027 or 28 cuz they'll probably release the UNIT spinoff in the break year to keep the fans. But it's not gonna be cancelled or anything. Ratings aren't crazy but the show isnt completely in the mud even now.
Itd be cool If the doctor was in the unit spinoff just not the current one bring back 8 have him be like a main character
@Pat12379 Hope he's in it. And idk about 8, his timeline is so packed rn.
Over the virality question... I think there's a danger with trying to appeal to The Youth, which is that there's a hell of a lot of The Youth who actually enjoy media that *isn't* aimed at The Youth. Doctor Who was nerdy even when it was (arguably) cool. I don't think it appealed to the type of young person who is only interested in things that are aimed at The Youth in 2005, and I don't think it would appeal to them now. No one's watching Doctor Who because they think it will impress other people, surely?
My biggest fear for the show is that it will try way too hard to attract an audience that was never going to come, and drive an audience that always would have come. My next biggest fear is that it'll go the other route and try to be "second screen" TV.
What's second screen tv
@@Pat12379 TV people watch on their second computer monitor
Sort of. The _market_ is people who have a movie or show on on a second monitor, or on TV while they're doing stuff on their phones. And there's definitely types of show and movie that work better with that.
Second screen TV is a term I've heard used to describe shows and movies that are _made_ with the assumption that the audience will only be half-watching them. So the actual content and structure of the thing will be created with that in mind.
I dunno, Cynical Reviews did a video about Damsel that talks about it, and apparently it's pretty common with straming service series. Anything that a film would normally convey by showing you stuff, a second-screen film will also have the characters state out loud, just in case you aren't looking at the screen. And the result is that, if you *are* giving it your full attention, it gets really boring really quickly.
all I can say is if it is on its last legs without any other writers or creatives given a chance, I'll wag a finger at the studios.
To be cautiously optimistic, as someone who found s1 to be quite rushed, I don't mind a slight delay on s3 if it gives them more time to flesh out scripts. I completely agree that Doctor Who needs to reinvent itself, with new writers and more Experimental scripts and risk taking. If RTD plans to stay, I feel he should prioritise the technical side of showrunner role over the creative one, eg. Dealing with all the red tape to allow other to achieve their vision of the show. In hindsight people are going to have more appreciation for creative one offs like Boom and Dot and Bubble over Obligation stories like Empire of Death or the the Robot Revolution.
Call me a sulky get, but I wouldn't be _that_ upset if Disney dipped.
Honestly at this point, I’d like a complete reboot of the show. I think there are a lot of new and interesting ideas they could explore without the baggage of the current canon, and it would be nice to see a fresh take on things like the daleks, cybermen, etc
Honestly they've done this like half a dozen times in the last decade or so. Needs to be off the air for like a decade and picked up by a new generation of writers.
this is honestly the one point where i don't want to see disney go down. because i have no other legal way to watch the show digitally. nothing 1963-2022 is on streaming here, all we get is season 1 and the 60th specials, and now the upcoming season 2. i'm fine to pirate stuff when needed, but i'd rather just have it available properly.
it IS on blu-ray and dvd, but blu-rays are expensive and i don't really wanna settle for the lower quality of dvds. plus, i do already own some blu-rays and my autism can't handle mixing in dvds with the seasons i've got.
watching the show is a pain, because they won't let me have it. watching the show outside of the uk, us, and a few other select places sucks, because we're not an important market, so they don't care enough to make decisions about us.
Apparently I'm Ireland it isny even I'm disney plus because disney plus in Ireland has the same servers as the uk but you should just pirate the old episodes if you can't watch them
if the Disney deal depended on the reception of S1 and S2, why did they not write the best fckin season of all time 😄
I don't see a world where Disney doesn't renew an IP, of any kind, much less Doctor WHO. I don't think IPs die anymore. At all.
I also don't think War Between the Land and the Sea is the title of the spinoff. I think it is the 1st episode name. They are doing something akin to Torchwood being an anagram for Doctor WHO. I think there is a spoiler reason they don't want to share the true title.
There was set photos where there was a green person running on a bridge that didn't look like a sea devil hut was probably something to do with it
I mean Doctor Who’s Christmas special was 1# in multiple countries beating even movies like home alone. It’s not smart for Disney to drop smithing capable of THAT.
Exactly!
Are these countries in the room with us?
@artofdrinking there is like 200 amd something countries in the world so probably not because there all probably bigger then a room
Putting everything on hold until season 2 is finished already is annoying. So after all those mini seasons we have once more at least a year break. Great.
I trust bbc better for seasons, than Disney. I believe Disney+ is a sinking ship.
Hopefully cancelled if season two is anything like season one 🎉
Harbo didn't stop with Doctor Who videos yayyy
Idea for the next doctor. I think they should be a doctor that is very caring but at the same time more alien (I like a doctor that has some weirdness to them), manic, full of unrestrained emotion, and a bit unhinged. Maybe make the Doctor a female that physically fights like the 3rd doctor but with some enhancements (great with emchanics and no interest in fighting fair, could be an arch in the making) and make her just as flirty as the 10th doctor (don't assexualize her because she is female) and keep her bi. I am thinking about a character like a combination of the current doctor, the 10th doctor, River Song, Kaylee Frye from Firefly, and strange like Ed from Cowboy Bebop.
Disney keep making the same mistakes. Buy a well known IP, put out poorly written fanficcy content, bin it. Repeat.
@@ItsTheCatSpeaking24 This should be under a SW video not a DW one. Disney hasn't bought it nor have they binned it yet. Plus watch Andor & Skeleton Crew.
Except Disney have next to no input with the writing and only help fund the series...
Good thoughts. I do agree it does need to change. It definitely needs to adapt to a new format as we are in the era of streaming services. We will hear something in time, we just have to patient for the raggedy man and his box.
“To make Doctor Who look better and appeal to more people”
Disney producing and coproducing successful franchises is often the case of death for them. I guarantee you they have a significant impact creatively, their money always comes with strings attached.
The South Park spoof of Disney’s practices have a grain of truth to them.
From what I have heard the viewing figures for the 2024 Christmas special were unbelievably low and public interest seems to follow that. Previous Christmas specials have been used to get the audience used to a give an indication as to the future adventures the audience can look forward to.
The public apathy towards the actors and the show is not a good thing.
Especially if we have to wait until 2026.
you wouldn't waste time an money on a spin off if you were not committed to making another season , think it just waiting on response and feedback on season 2 then start filming season 3 end of the year
That's just not true you would make a spin off if you where 100 percent sure of the next season
I would not guarantee a season 3. Too many variables.
bros talking about season 3 before season 2 is even here
They've tried to do new stuff for modern viewers however the reason they are relying on old stuff is because the new stuff doesn't work. Also what new shows what new shows should doctor who be following there are none that are popular of this current time.
Why did they choose the sea devils 😢😢😢
Oddly netflix is a better fit for doctor who than disney.....
For what it's worth, I'd go for a totally new format after a long enough break to commission decent scripts (RTD, Moffatt, Chibnal, need not apply). Two, or maybe three feature length specials a year. It needn't always be the same Doctor, as they're all out there somewhere. Eccleston could be tempted by this format, Matt Smith too (no more Tennant, please), even Jodie might get a moment to shine, and the Fugitive Doctor, and Doctors as yet unknown. This would be proper 'Event TV.'
You're missing someone 8 I think the perfect spin off for doctor who would be doctor who hut with with the 8th doctor and it's rated like 16 plus or higher and the episodes are like an hour or more long and there's like 3 or 4 episodes a year that come out at different times first it would be before yhe time war but the tension is rising and the time war officially starts in season 2 like halfway threw so there's time to get to know the characters before the time war and how the time war changed them and the beat part would be if you don't like the current doctor who season watch that instead
I think probably....... MAYBE.. after season two, but wouldn't it be funny and timey wimey if it was before (moffat picks up pen)
After the season 2 christmas special, of course
One way to flip it would be to do as DC Comics in 1970. Or as the BBC Doctor Who books did, Aim for an older audience. Ditch the juveniles as the target, aim post watershed.
Scary up the Cybermen etc.
Just an idea.
Or do a Star Trek, aim at older but PG able so kids can still watch it for the monsters.
I think they should make the age rating for the actual show yhe same but make ut more mature you know but they should also make a 8th doctor spin off about how the time war starter and about what happend in it and then about 8 wanting to end the war
TV ratings for Raw and Doctor Who: 0. Sad!
okay and bacteria and the the bacteria
If it does get cancelled afyer season 3 which i think is highly unlikely it will eventually come back
Where is Doctor Who Season 3? NGL I don't care. This show has gone from: weak, to weaker; to just plan awful. I liked Tenant coming back (for the most part) but overall, the show is just plain trash. If you like the show, great; but this show has just not recovered from the downward slide its experienced since Series 9/10. In My Opinion.
I haven’t seen any hype for The Land Between The Land And Sea, I sure have no interest in it, i’ll give it a go but I feel it will be like Class
Do we even want another season if its going to be like this. Genuinly liked 2 episodes from season 1 (The Devils Cord and Dot and Bubble) but the vibes for the rest of the episode are so off
That's more than me
I liked thoes aswell but also liked boom and 73 yards also rogue was alright
@@Pat12379 so you basically didn't mind the whole series 🤣
doing a comment for the algo
great breakdown harbo!
The real problem everyone ignores is the show becoming creatively bankrupt by RTD, and stagnating because of it. And arguably it already started with the Sutekh finale. Even Moffat can't bring anything new to the table
Doctor Who needs a brand new showrunner first and foremost, who could really bring some change
I’d love to see a completely new showrunner. Someone who’s not done work in the whoniverse before. That would truly start the show from scratch and give us something new
doot doot doot engagement
I kind of want there not to be a season three. To me the show ended with Capaldi still in the tardis regenerating. Doctor Who run its course.
this is my hot take/plan (if I was in charge) a lot of people dont like - it's also worth saying the probability of this happening is basically 0... just thought i would let it out somewhere.
firstly, I love ncuti and he is great, and there is many very solid components of the new era, and anyone who's first concern is "wokeness" should be ignored because they clearly don't care for actual good stories. However, the (lack of) consistency in the writing is what brings it down for me. As well as the Sutekh being on the TARDIS reveal, the timeless child references and the poor characterisation, each episode seems to not care about its own consistency and plot making any sense. My favourite episode of Season 1 is the only episode that has a somewhat solid justification for making little sense - 73 yards. But Space Babies, The Devil's Chord, Boom, Dot and Bubble, Rogue and the finale all have poorly written plots ranging from somewhat flawed to downright dreadful (mainly Empire of Death). This does NOT function as a reboot, starting with the 60th specials, messing up the marketing and having a bunch of things new viewers wouldn't get is not how a season 1 should be.
-My plan: Season 3 also has Gods as the main enemy, and it basically retcons the Timeless Child retcon, and the Sutekh one and basically undoes any plot mechanics that ruin previous episodes. Oh, and, BRING BACK GALLIFREY. But let this Season 3 do whatever the hell it wants, just go all out. Then have the doctor regenerate but it does not show who the next doctor is. Then don't air an episode of the show (apart from a new Paul Mcgann TV Movie that's GOOD) for 5 years.
-Now, let's say a really talented younger writer comes to the show and takes over as showrunner, and starts again. This will be a proper jumping on point, but will trickle in details from new who, rather than old who. Ignore most of the major decisions made after 2017 but reference it and bring back villains, just leave it up to the viewer's headcanon to decide whether those villains happened on screen with 13 or 15 or off screen with an older doctor. This way people who like to pretend 13/15 didn't happen can be happy and fans of 13/15 can be happy (just to stop more division in the show and bring back lost viewers). Also let there be 12 episodes in a season with 2 two-parters.
-make sure the primary concern of each episode is that the plot is interesting and makes logical sense within its own rules, and ensure the characters are developed and feel natural and the doctor shows his age, darkness, playfulness and childish nature/joy and love for the universe. Not just one of those traits. Get a variety of writers and explore creative, complex themes that can leave the audience wanting more.
(obviously i dont think this would ever happen but i found it interesting theorizing how the show could be saved - and I don't care about viewing figures or wokeness, to me the show is dying when the writing is weak, and it currently is weak, so that's why I believe the show to be "dying" now) (in my personal opinion). Basically i think if the show comes back when it has been out of interest for a while, and the marketing is really good and engaging for new fans and old, and the first episode is a banger, people will tune in.
At this point I think a full reboot is needed. I love jodie and ncuti and pretty much all of the cast as well as all the talented directors, set designers and pretty much everyone who is not responsible for the writing. I hope Jodie gets some excellent big finish stuff so they save her like they did for colin baker. I also hope Ncuti does big finish afterwards too. He's such a good choice for the doctor, and he does have a really great voice i think would lend itself well to audio, and if he was in some good stories for once, i might love his doctor.
U opened a whole Hellmouth there... Now, you need to review Buffy :)
It’s over. RTD has scared off any kind of mainstream audience
I hope if it's not 2026 ,the year we can See for the first time" season 3",it Will be in 2027 and what if they ,the BBC fires Russell but Disney s co production deal stays ,and also ncuti,and his era continues with only one more season,probably, whatever or what if season 3 happens in Amazon and after "season 4 " Russell Demise ,and BBC hires Sarah dollard ,and fady is the new better doctor, i hope adapt and revitalize the show!
RTD will never be fired.
I honestly think Doctor Who needs a hard reset
Unless “Season 2” pulls off a miracle and manages to capture the cultural media like it did 10 years ago, I don’t see the show lasting longer than the end of the decade.
I think that it would be better without Disney's involvement.
One of the greatest writers of all time, Grant Morrison has been interested in taking over from RTD & I hope it happens cuz that could be true change.
That could be interesting. @@Comicbroe405
Its in UK. 🧐🧐
There won't be a season 3.
personally at this point i'd say just let the show rest.
the show's been losing relevance slowly but surely with each passing year and it doesn't seem like it's going to get better anytime soon but who knows we'll see what happens.
I agree
It's absolutely hurrendeous, like it's begging to be cancelled atp
1966?
I really think Doctor Who should've taken a long break after "Twice Upon a Time" or "The Doctor Falls", and they REALLY should have after Chibnall's era. Instead they saw waning interest and truly wheeled out the nostalgia brigade and advertised it as a new era (taking place immediately after and directly referencing the last era and even the OG era). I genuinely don't think RTD is what the show needs. A return to form isn't going to cut it nearly two decades later. In that time the young adult viewers the show picked up could've had kids who are now the age they were when "Ross" aired. RTD also just isn't doing a good job returning to form. I don't think any type of viewer is happy with the current state of Doctor Who.
What I would have done is stopped after "Twice Upon a Time" and put the brakes on the main show for a while. Then begin work on a very serialized and very tightly written 8th Doctor Spin off that ran for 3 seasons and led up to the Time War. All that time the teams could be studying and discussing exactly how to have the best return for the main Doctor Who show. The goal would be to air a new era of the show for either the 60th anniversary overall or the 20th anniversary of the modern era or potentially even longer if they needed it. The goal would have been to appeal to new audiences who want tighter writing and a less episodic loosely connected approach, and appeal to old fans just by inclusion of Paul McGann and the Time War. It'd be new stories with a Doctor Who actor who had been seen as snubbed of the role despite modern reprisals showing that he's still great in it. Then when that dust settles, Doctor Who would ideally have more interest than ever and the creators would also have even given the needed time to relaunch the show for a proper new era.
Would Doctor Who really been seen as resting, and missed if it was consistently getting episodes of a spin off that is essentially just Doctor Who?
The point of the BBC isn't to appeal to virality and viewership ratings; it is to inform, entertain, as well as educate. If it can't survive without being trendy on TikTok then we need to advocate for the landscape to seriously change rather than proclaim the show itself needs to adapt. Bin RTD and all the execs at the BBC who have sold the show out to Disney, give me claustrophobic low-budget ghost stories any day. There is no reason other than corporate greed why a show like this is becoming zombified like The Simpsons.
Easier said than done mate.
You know they didn't sell it to disney they just made a deal
@@Pat12379 Life must be bliss for you in FineTime.
@@leonlaird_ You must use a lot of red thread on your corkboard, don't you?
I'll see you guys after the show is cancelled again
Gonna be a while.
@@Comicbroe405 Before or after the end of Season 3 and rebirth with writers who know what fans wanted
Since the show is in such a bad state it’s probably best that RTD and Bad Wolf give up Doctor Who and let professionals make it. Disney Who is the worst version of Doctor Who I’ve ever seen. We have Gatwa playing Gatwa and RTD churning out similar burnt out plots and tropes we’ve seen before. It’s stale and dull. New blood is desperately needed ASAP. Let an older more eccentric actor play the Doctor with darker more impactful stories. Having the same people working on the show for 20 years is ridiculous.
Show has burned out. Back to the wilderness. And there is no modern audience, only the audience.
The show is well on their 7th year of cultural irrelevance, all the cache accrued by Davies and Moffat thrown away by half a decade of Chibnall and a worse RTD than before. Let's not pretend casting a woman and a black gay dude weren't also attempts at "connecting with a modern audience" and they both failed because of the writing. I think the show is going to sleep for a few years after Gatwa S2 and it should just so it can get out from the hands of the same group of 4-5 writer buddies. You want something new and with edge? Hire different younger writers.
If the BBC has any common sense, they'll be cancelling this Gatwa trash and throwing him and RTD out
Wait, I thought they never worked on the show? Now you're saying they did?
Thankfully the BBC has common sense & don't listen to egotistical chimps.
@@Acknowledgerofdoctorwho This guy is sadly schizophrenic /s
Dawk Whoah
You make some good points here. This fixation on the memberberries I don't even understand as I remember what they're jingling in my face, but find the jingling to be hollow. Sure, we never saw Troughton regenerate into Pertwee, but did this cause an issue? Nope, it provided the fan community with an opportunity to make up all kinds of stuff that might have happened and called it season 6b. I've actually adjusted my head-cannon recently to consider Capaldi to be the 13th doctor of the original "Doctor Who" story, and that story concluded in Twice Upon a Time. I do still watch the show, but I'm not in any way invested in it as part of the same story that started in 1963. They should really move on and just tell a new story.
Don't worry about Dr Who as a whole. Disney is something that may come and go. As an American born and raised. Dr who should leave the US behind. It's Dr Who for peat sakes. It was there long before a deal with Disney. The disney thing is worse in my opinion than a full produced reboot in the 90's wiht the 8th Dr. The US doesn't deserve to be in the production of the show (IMHO). NCuti, would have been much better regardless of what you think of RTD. he's a really good producer (again IMHO). I will stop now with the parenths of my opinion. sorry. Just love how mcuh better the show was without Disney. I love even more every week the last showrunner. each time I watch each season i like them more each time. This includes the Chipnel erra. The Whittaker Dr even gets better each time i watch it and the firt time I still liked the majority of episodes..... My suggestion for the show? Get rid of Disney and make it more British! Go back to making Dr Who to be Dr who! TY if you have r3ead this whole post. I love Dr Who. it should stay Dr Who and stay Dr who. In a few years i will probably watch and really like the first Disney Who season. just make Dr Who to be jsut Dr who. That's all that me and a lot of fans ask. Dont' go Hollywood and stay Who. The show isn't on it's last legs as long as they stay true to the Who (fans). Love Who and love the ones who stay true to the Who (not America and/or Disney). bye for now!
Doctor who should be in a tiktok format to appeal to the youth
half the screen should be satisfying videos to keep their attention
@@HarboWholmes they should also play the distracting music clippers use with the actual ost still in the background for the peak of sound mixing.
Does anyone remember when marvel made a tiktok acount for yhe daily buggle for spiderman no way home and it actually hade the actors from the movies market videos
Season 3 isnt here cause the show has gone wok and british broadcasting sverbice has finally pulled the pluggg!! doctoer who ende d in 1958 man, you guys arre stuoud 🗿🗿🤣🤣🍷🍷
So real
Innit tho.
20 views in 30 seconds bro fell off
Gartwa, RTD and everyone currently involved with the show need to go. The culture is changing, elections in America and Europe show that, as does the backlash against 'Woke' Gaming, Marvel etc. Our show has been used to fight battles that people, even, especially young people are sick of. Small 'c' conservative values are now counter-cultural. People pay more attention to what Rogan or Critical Drinker say than to old relics like Davis. Doctor Who could relevant again, as a time-travelling action-hero type, providing the writing is good. Nobody wants a Doctor who cries every episode and no longer saves the day because Male Saviours are 'problematic.'
@@anthonygreen7063 Your best idea is to listen to conservatives & grifters? DW should not be part of some culture war nonsense. And this "backlash" has repeatedly proven itself to be false especially when it comes to gaming & recent media.
I agree
@@Comicbroe405it shouldn’t be part of the culture war but RTD particularly has made it that way
@apexa903 Not really. He's just made some bad decisions which funnily managed to piss off both sides largely Davros & Rose Noble.
Imagine thinking “the kids don’t watch doctor who because they don’t like the showrunners politics” when in reality the way media is consumed these days has rotted attention spans. If 1000 shows release a day people are going to pick one or two they see on TikTok and watch that. Secondly critical drinker is a grifter plain and simple. There’s so many examples of him lying, exaggerating and twisting reality so he can push his message. Just because one agenda is replaced by another doesn’t mean there is no agenda. Thirdly while rtd is beyond dried of ideas gatwa is a great doctor. Tossing him away for seemingly no reason would be on par with firing Colin, a decision everyone hears later has said was a mistake..