2013 DOM PÉRIGNON Champagne Review & Buying Strategy (Wine Collecting)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มี.ค. 2023
- In this video, John Jackson, DipWSET aka Attorney Somm reviews the 2013 Dom Perignon Champagne, which was recently released . Attorney Somm discusses the 2013 vintage in Champagne, his tasting notes for the 2013 Dom Perignon and also provides buying strategies both for the 2013 Dom Perignon and also for Dom Perignon generally. #domperignon #champagne
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I am not a wine critic or expert but I received a bottle of the 2013 dom perignon as a wedding gift and i really enjoyed it, it was very smooth! Really lovely after taste, even my non champagne drinking (new) husband enjoyed it 😊
Thank you! Very glad you both enjoyed it! It’s showing well now. Had it again recently.
Very interesting video so many thanks. Last year during harvest, 2022, my wife and I visited the Moet Hennessy champagnes including DP, Ruinart, Moet & Chandon, Veuve Cliquot & Krug and we were lucky to meet many amazing staff including some of the chef de caves. They were all raving about the best vintage in 50 years, but sadly we all have to be a little patient as that won't be released for another 10 years? Meanwhile we will just have to enjoy the 2013!
Thanks very much! Sounds like a fantastic trip! Yes, unfortunately the 2022 vintage bottlings from the big houses probably won’t start coming out for another 6-7 years at least and longer for many of them. But there will be some gems before that too! Cheers!
Great content and as always , detailed and well presented ! Cheers !!
Thank you kindly! Cheers!
Thanks John. I have only recently started really enjoying champagne. I'm like a kid in a candy store. What a find. Honestly I don't believe I would have really even given it a shot if it wasn't for watching your videos. Thanks Again.
Also I think my past issues with trying sparkling wines/champagne was all because I was using traditional flutes while drinking. With a few nice suggestions of the glassware I absolutely love enjoying sparkling wines. There are also so many great values in Champagne.
Thanks very much! So glad to hear it. That was my experience too. Once I tried better examples of Champagne (rather than BTG in a flute at restaurants), I became hooked! Unfortunately, prices are trending higher, but there are still lots of excellent buys! Cheers!
Thanks for the awesome information🥂🍾
My pleasure, Natasha! Very glad it was useful. Thanks for the kind feedback!
Blown away by the excellence and engaging quality of this video. Fantastic review of the 2013 vintage, impressive insights, valuable advice, compelling recommendations, great buying strategies, and clear explanations overall. The 2013 hasn’t reached our shores though, based on my online search, but it’s possible they could be in the physical stores I usually go to or they have yet to arrive in our country. The 2006 and 2010 are available here for around US$300, the 2004 and the 2008 slightly more expensive. Thank you, John, for yet another stellar content on this legendary Champagne. I love your tasting notes and your precise, expert, and eloquent assessments. I consider your content on TH-cam and on Instagram to be the best and most reliable references for appreciating, collecting, and learning more about Dom Perignon.
Thanks so much Margaux! I’d be tempted to get the 04 and 08! Those are both stunning! So glad you enjoyed the review! I’ve been enjoying DP for a number of years and hope others can benefit from that experience. Santè!
@@AttorneySomm You’re welcome, John! Yes, those two vintages are very tempting! But still overpriced here. Maybe I can wait for my next trip?😁🙏🏻🇫🇷
@@margauxml For older vintages, that actually seems about right to me. Even the 2012 is $250 and up in the US where it can be found.
@@AttorneySomm Hmm, very tempting, indeed!
Great Informative videos!!! Do you have a video on the best ways to sell bottles from a collection?
Thanks very much! Have not done one on selling wine yet. I’ll give that some thought! 👍🍷
Great video as always ! I just had Dom for the first time last night (2012)…. Got to taste it before serving to a table. SUBLIME
PS . PLEASEEEE do a blind tasting video
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it! 👍🍾
@@baileyklink1416 Appreciate the suggestion! Often just record on my own. I’d need a helper! I’ll give it some thought.
Love the videos. In general, not just champagne, where is a good source to acquire wines / champagne with some bottle age? Websites? Vendors?
Thanks! Places like Benchmark & Hart Davis hart buy collections and re-sell older vintages.
My buying strategy for DP is just buy 2 cases every vintage and I will never be sorry I did 20 years later, either from an enjoyment or investment standpoint. As someone else mentioned it’s approx 320 a bottle now in Canada I suspect that continues to creep up
Thanks! Yes, that works too. Completely agree with you. I've never experienced buyer's remorse with DP either (at least based on a purchase; many times I regret not buying more).
Thanks a ton, I haven't tasted yet. Of recent vintages, I really liked the 2008
My pleasure! Yes, 2008 is top notch.
Great info. Where do you keep your wines for collection and possible resale?
Thanks! Some are in the cellar at my house and some are in offsite storage at the wine club where I'm a member (Roots & Water in Dallas).
@@AttorneySomm thanks. If you don’t mind me asking, If you resell, how do you manage provenance?
@@carlcadregari7768 I usually sell directly to people I know since I generally keep most of my bottles. Offsite is probably best if you are going to sell to auction or someone you don't know.
Love your videos. If you could only buy one (current vintage), would you buy Dom, Krug or Cristol?
Thanks! It depends a bit on the timing. To drink soon I enjoy Krug Grande Cuvee. It’s more complex on release. With more time (8-9 years), probably Dom. I don’t but as much Cristal, but sometimes grab it in very top vintages.
Managed to snag a bottle of 2008 DP rosé Lady Gaga edition for about $350USD
Fully intend on keeping it for 10+ years and then wait until the proper occasion arises.
Otherwise I have 0 doubt it'll skyrocket in price just like your Warhol bottle did.
Regarding the 2013 vintage i find the BdB champagnes to be absolute stunners whilst the pinot noir grape didn't turn out so good
Very nice buy! Sounds like a good approach. Appreciate you weighing in. I’ll have to try some more 13s. 👍🍾
hello att somm, thank you so much for all valuable thoughts and advice about wine! I would like to ask you to make a video about Penfolds. I have several bottles of Penfolds in my wine cooler. I am curious about your thoughts about this winery ^_^
Thanks! I’ll definitely give that some thought. In the meantime, I just did a detailed review of the 82 Grange on IG. I write about Penfolds there every few months.
@@AttorneySomm oh, thats very cool! I have exactly one bottle of Penfolds Grange, but its too young to drink yet. I do find Grange too expensive though. I do prefer some other bins from them because they are almost equally good and much affordable imho. I will check out your ig aswell! thanks! and thank you for considering penfolds in an upcoming video! :)
@@rickwezenaar Thanks! Yes the prices are crazy. I also wrote about the 06 St Henri a few months back. Send a Dm if you can’t find readily and I’ll send links.
@@AttorneySomm always interested in links, my friend! will dm.
@@AttorneySomm somehow can not dm. how to reach you otherwise ?
Pricing 2 years ago in Ontario for $CAN was $260-290 for 2008 and 2010. Now for 2012 it is $320 so prices are going north quite significantly even in the retail market.
Ouch! Yes, with every new release prices are higher in the US as well.
Had the 2010 two NYE's ago. Enjoyed it more than the 2008 Cristal.
Thanks! That is an impressive showing for the Dom. 👍🍾
How long after their release cab you cellar them? A P3 For instance, does the lees ageing mean you have less time to age it yourself? Online I find wildly varying forecasts on how long you can cellar different wines , for someone who wants to buy the best of different categories seeing the short amount of ageing time (under 25-40) years I get turned off spending good money buying good and older vintage's to cellar.
I bought a 76 Dom that was not late disgorged a few years ago and it was stunning. But then you take your chances with provenance. The P2 and P3s are generally best shortly after release, but you can certainly save the p2v for a few years. I’d enjoy the P3s soon. The current releases of the regular bottling I age for 10-20 years with no problems.
Generally speaking, late disgorged wines will decline faster (once released for sale) than wines disgorged at/near the minimum (36 mos for vintage Champagne). The longer the wine aged sur lie, the steeper will be its decline profile post-disgorgement. Therefore, if you want to age it yourself, a straight vintage bottling is preferrable to late disgorged bottlings.
@@ecmo11 Agreed. That is my approach and it has worked well.
Never drank Dom. I am holding out until I celebrate my upcoming lottery win!
Still waiting. And waiting...
Hopefully 2024 is the year!
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Thank you kindly! Cheers!
Interesting comment that, in your opinion, Dom 2013 doesn’t match up to 2012. With Cristal, many have said that the 2012 and 2013 were pretty comparable, so I’m interested in people’s comments whether it’s the same with the Dom. On another note, the release price for the Dom 2013 is crazy compared to the last two vintages.
Agreed. Definitely a higher price. The 13 Dom is definitely more approachable early in my view than the 12. While still well balanced, 12 has more power and 13 more elegance.
Having just bought a new kitchen and about to renew our central heating, I don't think buying bubbles at £200 a pop would go down well with my (non-drinking) wife just at the moment. Timing is everything in life, so perhaps next year...
On another note, I held our annual wine evening (not held for three years for obvious reasons) and, although a terrific evening, there was a puzzle. I got a distinct whiff of TCA from the Ribera del Duero (2010 Borhorquez) which nobody else detected. It got worse, so mine went down the sink. Everybody else enjoyed it. I have a few bottles left, so I will open another one at some point. I very much enjoyed the Ardanza, 2010, though, which we tasted alongside it.
BTW, have you ever tasted Alheit Cartology: I have just bought three bottles of the 2021?
Totally understand. Linked my favorite $50 bottles in the community forum for those in that situation. The Ardanza is a great choice! Lots of people can’t detect TCA. You were probably right. Don’t believe I have tried that one yet. At least don’t recall it currently. Cheers!
@@AttorneySomm Interesting, I hadn't realised that not everyone can detect TCA - I wish I was one of those people. It was very strong and unpleasant to me. Alcohol makes my wife very ill but she likes to taste whatever I am drinking. The the next day I asked her to taste the Borhorquez without comment from me. 'Chemical,' was her verdict, so I think she had picked it up too.
@@stevenholt4936 Yes it seems like something was off and she knew it.
Great video John!
You can coun’t 5M-7M bottles for DP depending on the vintage 🫢
Thanks very much! Wow, really? That high?!?
@@AttorneySomm impressive to reach this level of quality with those volumes!