I absolutely adore these two brands. I recently got a GO Panomaticlunar with the grey dial and couldn't be happier. If I get another watch I can't decide if it will be another GO (been looking at the SeaQ and the senator excellence with the Arabic dials), a JLC (been looking at the Polaris and the Master Calendar Chronograph), or try to find a VC Quai de L'ille. I am surprised the Polaris inner bezel doesn't lock but I guess for most people (including myself) it is more for show than use. Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
Bill, you are dressing us up for another Roaring Twenties! You have great taste and I love seeing these watches out in the wild. Prosperity to you and all watch enthusiasts.
I really like JLC, but Gläshutte Original is definitely my choice from the two, as I love their Germanic designs and cool dial colors. I think both offer a great value for money on the secondary market.
Hi Abdul, both of these watch companies have well placed and well priced watches for good quality, often equal to or above that of more expensive timepieces. Take care, Bill
I love the sixties models. The fonts and textured dials are superb. A lot are limited numbers if I recall. The green and burnt orange dials are thoroughly eye catching. Thanks as always for the presentation Bill.
You're right FM...they are limited editions. I guess if you want an orange from from a few years back, you'll have to go to the pre-owned market. Take care, Bill
I have the vintage SeaQ and love the dial design a lot. The re-issue blue dial SeaQ will be my next purchase, I will need to save up for one a long time but one day I will enjoy it
Love the JLC Polaris. Considered it as a daily wearer. JLC the guts of some of the Holly Trinity back in the day. JLC isgreat value. Nice video mate 🌎🏌🏽♂️🥃🇺🇸
Excellent video with excellent choices. I do miss my JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds, it is truly a fantastic watch and I enjoyed my time with it. Thanks as always Bill.
GO and JLC may be relatively expensive, but both truly do give you a lot of watch for your money - I just hope the maintenance costs aren't stratospheric! Another possible pairing is between a Senator Excellence and another watch from the Master product family, for example their respective moonphase models. What they would have in common is that they both have rigorous testing procedures and are dedicated to not just achieving, but exceeding established chronometer standards. :)
Gilberto, if you buy a luxury watch, expect to have higher service charges. However, if you rotate your watches, you won't have to have each one serviced as often. Also, lots of good buys on the Senator on the secondary market. Good hunting! Take care, Bill
Thank you for the comparison, great brands and watches. Polaris vs. SeaQ, I really like both of them, the one thing which let me go with the polaris is the caseback. Both have nicely decorated movements, but you won't see the movement of the GO 🤷🏼♂️
I bought the JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds with sunburst blue dial (1358480) just before they discontinued it. Stunning dial and I can't imagine why they replaced it with the smaller diameter but thicker silver dial only version.
@@watchartsci Hi Bill, thanks. I think we have a common taste, and you can view a short video showing my collection on my channel. I've also got a salmon dial Habring Doppel-Felix on order and then next on my list is a VC 1921 like yours 😉 Cheers, David
Hi Junior, I just got an Alpina Seastrong watch to review, and it's a good solid watch with an automatic movement, screw-down crown, one-way rotating bezel, and it comes with two straps ... one leather and one rubber for use in the water ... an actual diver. They're half-price on Amazon and I found one one the Real Real for even less ( www.therealreal.com/products/watches/bracelet/alpina-seastrong-diver-300-watch-w-tags-aak9q ). I know you young guys like divers and this one seems solid. Take care, Bill
Now that would be fun Erik... Nomos might have to be compared with Glashütte Mühle or a Swiss company with strong but not expensive horology. Take care, Bill
The fired GO Sixties dials in a range of different colors put the new colored Oyster Perpetual dials to shame and, as the former owner of a Grand Seiko blue Mt. Itawe dress piece (SBKG005), even excite me more than the GS dials. GO has a separate dial manufacturing facility in Pforzheim, a couple hours from Glashutte, where the Sixties dials are made. This facility dates back to the 1920s and was established by Thomas Muller. And ended up in GO hands due to a series of mergers, etc. Pforzheim was the historic fine jewelry capital of Germany and the factory stayed in business during the Communist regime in East Germany. The factory does these fired hand painted Sixties dials and also creates metal dials which are among the best in the world. Like Moser hairsprings, one would be impressed to learn the identity of the Pforzheim plant’s non-GO customers. The Pforzheim facility is very much the German equivalent of the Grand Seiko dial studios. I have purchased four Grand Seikos over time and I regard GO as the German GS. This comparison is not perfect (GS has more sophisticated movement choices including spring drive and high beat) but I think that it comes close to the mark as GS and GO have much in common in terms of the dual commitment to both excellence and outstanding value propositions. Cheers.
Howard, that is interesting. I wonder why the East German regime allowed the factory to keep making jewelry? They wouldn't let Rolf Lang follow in his father's (and grandfather's) footsteps to be a watchmaker ... he had to do it circuitously through the restoration of the Dresden museum. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci I think that dial production (not jewelry production) continued with the facility being rolled up into the East German state’s GUB watch making entity which was the monolith that absorbed all of the Glashutte based watch concerns. In the galaxy of communist bloc political and economic alliances, East Germany was an exporter of watches, shipping time keeping and navigation instruments and the like to other communist states. After 1994, the individual watch companies that had been rolled into GUB became available for some form of reclamation to their former owners but many such former owners did not have the financial wherewithal to pick up the pieces and had to take in new partners from outside of East Germany such as the deal Gunter Blumlein) was the operations executive for the investment company which owned IWC and Jaeger LeCoultre) made for his company with Walter Lange to resurrect A. Lange & Sohne. Lothar Schmidt was moved by Gunter Blumlein from IWC to serve as the first technical director of the revived A. Lange & Sohne. Mr. Schmidt later bought Sinn from founder Helmut Sinn 25 years ago and Mr. Schmidt has remained the enlightened sole proprietor of Sinn for the last quarter century. Unlike Art Leyenberger, I do not speak or read German so I would defer to him on matters related to East German horology during the communist era.
@@h111551 When I met with Rolf Lang in Dresden, he too worked with A. Lange, Tutima and even H. Moser ... in the Swiss-German canton. Even the communist realized that changing the watchmaking culture was not easy and had to bend some of stricter rules for universal equality. Cheers, Bill
JLC is not really mid-level considering they make and have made movements for "high-horology" brands. I think their designs are just too plain to get any recognition.
I absolutely adore these two brands. I recently got a GO Panomaticlunar with the grey dial and couldn't be happier. If I get another watch I can't decide if it will be another GO (been looking at the SeaQ and the senator excellence with the Arabic dials), a JLC (been looking at the Polaris and the Master Calendar Chronograph), or try to find a VC Quai de L'ille. I am surprised the Polaris inner bezel doesn't lock but I guess for most people (including myself) it is more for show than use. Another great video. Thanks for sharing.
You truly have an embarrassment of riches Vincent! I like them all too! Take care, Bill
Bill, you are dressing us up for another Roaring Twenties! You have great taste and I love seeing these watches out in the wild. Prosperity to you and all watch enthusiasts.
Well, Richard, I don't know if it's Roaring Twenties, but it's roaring something! Take care, Bill
I really like JLC, but Gläshutte Original is definitely my choice from the two, as I love their Germanic designs and cool dial colors.
I think both offer a great value for money on the secondary market.
Hi Abdul, both of these watch companies have well placed and well priced watches for good quality, often equal to or above that of more expensive timepieces. Take care, Bill
I agree Abdul. I've been following GO for several years now.
I love the sixties models. The fonts and textured dials are superb. A lot are limited numbers if I recall. The green and burnt orange dials are thoroughly eye catching. Thanks as always for the presentation Bill.
You're right FM...they are limited editions. I guess if you want an orange from from a few years back, you'll have to go to the pre-owned market. Take care, Bill
I have the vintage SeaQ and love the dial design a lot. The re-issue blue dial SeaQ will be my next purchase, I will need to save up for one a long time but one day I will enjoy it
There's something about the SeaQ that I really like. It seems like a solid reliable watch. Take care, Bill
Two great brands with amazing timepieces!
Hi Javi, yes, they are the dominant "middle ground" luxury watches. Take care, Bill
…… and all because of you Bill three years ago I bought a Glashutte, one and only 50 GMT models……. A great watch……. thank you Bill 👌
I'm glad to hear it Tommy! If you get a different watch on my recommendation and don't like it ... forget you heard it from me.😉 Take care, Bill
Excellent video Bill. Thank you for posting this.
GO and JLC are my two favorite brands.
Have a great weekend.
Great QE! If you have any other favorite brands, let me know! Take care, Bill
Own both panomaticlunar and reverso… best Swiss and German representation
Hey Junior, I think that the PanoMaticLunar is the favorite of more collectors than any of the other GOs...and for good reason! Take care Bill
Love the JLC Polaris. Considered it as a daily wearer. JLC the guts of some of the Holly Trinity back in the day.
JLC isgreat value. Nice video mate 🌎🏌🏽♂️🥃🇺🇸
I'm not sure why I like the idea of a rehaut more than a rotating bezel, but I do Tim. So yeah, that Polaris is special. Take care, Bill
I've always liked GO watches ... wish I hadn't sold my Sport Evo when I left USA. I should have just worn it. Nice show as always .. cheers
Hey JR, thanks man, and like the penguins said, "Just wave and smile..." Take care, Bill
Love the Reverso and the Glachutte Sixties Bill. The green faced Glachutte would be perfect to add to your 'Morgan' collection.
I do like that green, Phil, but in something less dramatic than a chronograph.
Excellent video with excellent choices. I do miss my JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds, it is truly a fantastic watch and I enjoyed my time with it. Thanks as always Bill.
Hey Bruce, that Ultra Thin is my kind of watch ... clean and clear with a classic style. Take care, Bill
A good selection of watches! I learn a lot from these videos.
Thanks Edward! A lot of my videos include what I've learned from you guys as well. Take care, Bill
GO and JLC may be relatively expensive, but both truly do give you a lot of watch for your money - I just hope the maintenance costs aren't stratospheric!
Another possible pairing is between a Senator Excellence and another watch from the Master product family, for example their respective moonphase models. What they would have in common is that they both have rigorous testing procedures and are dedicated to not just achieving, but exceeding established chronometer standards. :)
Gilberto, if you buy a luxury watch, expect to have higher service charges. However, if you rotate your watches, you won't have to have each one serviced as often. Also, lots of good buys on the Senator on the secondary market. Good hunting! Take care, Bill
I have the JLC ! My first luxury watch
That's a perfect start for a luxury watch, Benny! Take care, Bill
I love both brands and you’ve chosen some really fine examples from each maison.
Thanks Ced! I think I need to look at some more German watches. What do you think? Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Yes, that would be great. And other mid-horology brands that aren’t well known.
Thank you for the comparison, great brands and watches. Polaris vs. SeaQ, I really like both of them, the one thing which let me go with the polaris is the caseback. Both have nicely decorated movements, but you won't see the movement of the GO 🤷🏼♂️
Good point Rio! I like 'em both as well, but I do like to see the movement. Take care, Bill
I bought the JLC Master Ultra Thin Small Seconds with sunburst blue dial (1358480) just before they discontinued it. Stunning dial and I can't imagine why they replaced it with the smaller diameter but thicker silver dial only version.
I love those watches, David! Way to go! They are so versatile and look great in every situation. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Hi Bill, thanks. I think we have a common taste, and you can view a short video showing my collection on my channel. I've also got a salmon dial Habring Doppel-Felix on order and then next on my list is a VC 1921 like yours 😉 Cheers, David
@@davidjb3671 What's a link to your video? Thanks, Bill
tks Mr Bill
My pleasure Saman! Take care Bill
I really like the SeaQ especially in green unfortunately out of my price range. Thanks Bill 👍
Hi Junior, I just got an Alpina Seastrong watch to review, and it's a good solid watch with an automatic movement, screw-down crown, one-way rotating bezel, and it comes with two straps ... one leather and one rubber for use in the water ... an actual diver. They're half-price on Amazon and I found one one the Real Real for even less ( www.therealreal.com/products/watches/bracelet/alpina-seastrong-diver-300-watch-w-tags-aak9q ). I know you young guys like divers and this one seems solid. Take care, Bill
thoughts on the GO seventies chronograph panorama date they just released in turqoise and yellow?
Anthony, I'm not into chronographs at all, but in turquoise or yellow ... they'd be a lot of fun. Take care, Bill
Very interesting video Bill, I like them both!
Hey Nico, thanks man! Take care, Bill
Do you ever show any of your watches in a video ? From close distance ?
Sure, lots of times Silviu ... here's a recent on: th-cam.com/video/kTlGa5UmgkI/w-d-xo.html Take care, Bill
Please compare Lang&Heyne, Grossmann, and Nomos to the bigger names in the industry as well
Now that would be fun Erik... Nomos might have to be compared with Glashütte Mühle or a Swiss company with strong but not expensive horology. Take care, Bill
NONE OF THAT NONSENSE. HAHA. LOVE IT....Once again more ideas. thx
Help me out Michael... what "nonsense?" Thanks. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci haha. What you said in the beginning of the vid
The fired GO Sixties dials in a range of different colors put the new colored Oyster Perpetual dials to shame and, as the former owner of a Grand Seiko blue Mt. Itawe dress piece (SBKG005), even excite me more than the GS dials. GO has a separate dial manufacturing facility in Pforzheim, a couple hours from Glashutte, where the Sixties dials are made. This facility dates back to the 1920s and was established by Thomas Muller. And ended up in GO hands due to a series of mergers, etc. Pforzheim was the historic fine jewelry capital of Germany and the factory stayed in business during the Communist regime in East Germany. The factory does these fired hand painted Sixties dials and also creates metal dials which are among the best in the world. Like Moser hairsprings, one would be impressed to learn the identity of the Pforzheim plant’s non-GO customers. The Pforzheim facility is very much the German equivalent of the Grand Seiko dial studios. I have purchased four Grand Seikos over time and I regard GO as the German GS. This comparison is not perfect (GS has more sophisticated movement choices including spring drive and high beat) but I think that it comes close to the mark as GS and GO have much in common in terms of the dual commitment to both excellence and outstanding value propositions. Cheers.
Howard, that is interesting. I wonder why the East German regime allowed the factory to keep making jewelry? They wouldn't let Rolf Lang follow in his father's (and grandfather's) footsteps to be a watchmaker ... he had to do it circuitously through the restoration of the Dresden museum. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci I think that dial production (not jewelry production) continued with the facility being rolled up into the East German state’s GUB watch making entity which was the monolith that absorbed all of the Glashutte based watch concerns. In the galaxy of communist bloc political and economic alliances, East Germany was an exporter of watches, shipping time keeping and navigation instruments and the like to other communist states. After 1994, the individual watch companies that had been rolled into GUB became available for some form of reclamation to their former owners but many such former owners did not have the financial wherewithal to pick up the pieces and had to take in new partners from outside of East Germany such as the deal Gunter Blumlein) was the operations executive for the investment company which owned IWC and Jaeger LeCoultre) made for his company with Walter Lange to resurrect A. Lange & Sohne. Lothar Schmidt was moved by Gunter Blumlein from IWC to serve as the first technical director of the revived A. Lange & Sohne. Mr. Schmidt later bought Sinn from founder Helmut Sinn 25 years ago and Mr. Schmidt has remained the enlightened sole proprietor of Sinn for the last quarter century. Unlike Art Leyenberger, I do not speak or read German so I would defer to him on matters related to East German horology during the communist era.
@@h111551 When I met with Rolf Lang in Dresden, he too worked with A. Lange, Tutima and even H. Moser ... in the Swiss-German canton. Even the communist realized that changing the watchmaking culture was not easy and had to bend some of stricter rules for universal equality. Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci I must confess. I do not know any current world figures who can hold a candle to Vladimir Putin’s watch collection.
Will take JLC over pretty much any other brand any day of the week… exception made probably for vacheron or Lange&S and some breguet
Hi A Chf, I like JLC too, but I like lots of others too ... for me it's the watchmaker and watch; not the brand.Take care, Bill
If you call this mid-level watchmakers than what level Rolex is?
Entry level luxury, Tibor. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci finally sombody says it, now I like you even more
Mid level???
Just compared to high and entry level, David. Take care, Bill
JLC is not really mid-level considering they make and have made movements for "high-horology" brands. I think their designs are just too plain to get any recognition.
In that sense you're right, Will. I was thinking between Nomos (low) and A. Lange (high). Take care, Bill