The SeaQ is a really special piece in a lot of ways. It does not look like your typical modern dive watch, it has tonnes of character and goes the extra mile with a gorgeous hand finished movement. So what do you Love and Dislike about this machine? 🥃
I love everything about it design wise but as always I think in depreciation, I never buy a new car, especially German brands, you take 2 yrs older and you save up to 40% on the retail price. I'm pretty sure it will retain its value quite well but since it's a "niche" model, and not a Rolex, it'll taste a bit of depreciation for sure. Patience is a thing.
@@LaurentiusTriarius The beauty is always the hunt and you're right, finding models like these second hand can be a huge win (that's where I'd be looking always) 🥃
I have a rose gold and steel Pano date SEAQ and I love it… I will try it with a nylon strap this summer.. it’s a big piece and it’s superbly well made, excellent finishing
My experience with the Glashütte Original SeaQ Panoramadate: Easy to read the time. Hard to copy the big date (and quality), so there are no copies around. Safe to wear, criminals don't know this brand. And when I wear it in a Rolex AD, they show me the hidden Rolexes and want to sell them to me. Yes, this really has happened.
Fantastic recounting of your experiences Roy and I can believe it all completely. Maybe the SeaQ's aren't aimed at the "new time buyer", but man, anyone who wears these, they know what they're doing - obviously have a bit of experience 😉
I bought the SEAQ Panorama Date in January of this year. My first luxury mechanical timepiece. I love looking at it, it functions beautifully and I never think about taking it off because it’s so rugged. I also love that no one recognizes it.
You're a lucky man. Think the Panorama would be my choice too (probably in green looking at the collection) Movement is tops - massive improvement over the 39mm AND with a clear back? Yeah, pretty much a no-brainer 😉 Thank you for sharing Willem!
Agreed. The Panorama with the clear back offers so much more as a package. I believe they kept the 39mm model solid to be closer to the original (but also because the movement is not "up to date" with their standards) Maybe there was some debate about the approach 🥃
Exactly. If I'm getting a GO, I'm gonna need to see the movement. I associate GO with beautifully finished movements. If they could shrink the panorama just a tad it'd probably be on my long term goals list.
Totally agree with all your comments about the GO SeaQ. I had an Omega PO but wanted a timepiece that had uniqueness and a wow factor. That search led me to the GO SeaQ Panorama Date. I received the blue dial version on 25/08/23. It's truly stunning masterpiece. I'm so glad these watches aren't aimed at the masses. Give me this over a Rolex Submariner or Sea Dweller any day. In my opinion the GO SeaQ outshines the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and Bathyscaphe
I bought one. Having the Anti-Submariner is saying something. History, great finishing, german design, micro-adjusting bracelet, excellent lume. Something truly unique and special
...until one realizes that the SeaQ takes its design from the GUB diver, which stole its design from the French "Le Forban Securite Mer". I opted for the Seestern S435 with sunburst blue dial. At only $200, it's a terrific every-day tool watch...as I prefer not to wear my Rolex Sub (16613) daily.
@@jb678901 that is indeed interesting and new for me. Just had a look at these Le Forbans and they look relatively decent. However, especially when you were able to have a closer look at these Glashütte Originals, they are absolutely stunning. Credits to the dial design, but apart from that, you won't be able to have these compete on the same ground.
Tbh, I would pick this piece over the Submariner every single time. It’s fearsome character, the beautiful box sapphire, the marvelous calibre, it is simply put, a majestic machine.
I own this watch and after owning multiple other divers this is a truly special piece and different from everything else out there. As always spot on video. Cheers.
@@danr6175 hi. My watch is very consistently at +1 to +2 seconds per day. Very pleased with the accuracy. Can’t talk about shock resistance as I haven’t dropped it thank goodness but I’ve taken it to the pool, beach and river and I’ve had no issues with accuracy or performance. I love this watch and it’s one of my favorites.
Great video as always. Massively underrated watch and brand. The details are superb! That typography is just killer and up there with Lange. Glashutte should get more love from the community with such great quality and really cool designs.
Genuinely think this is the next brand I'll be pursing in the future. Landed on a PanoReserve for a steal the other day and scratched my head thinking the same thing. Why is nobody looking at these incredible machines? 🥃
I'm a dive watch junkie. My first was a Breitling Shark followed by a Rolex 16610 Sub, Omega Planet Ocean, Glashutte Original Sport Evolution Panorama Date and Finally a GO SeaQ Pano. I have a 7 5/8' wrist so I prefer bigger watches and the SeaQ is perfect. I'm 65 and haven't been diving in about 10 years but I still love these watches. I'm thinking about selling them all and just keeping the SeaQ.
Loved every second of your exploration of the SEAQ’s merits and downfalls. I’m always drawn to the outlier, the “alternative” choice, and this model really speaks to me. Thanks again, I might have to add this to my diver collection (so far a Sea-dweller 16600 and my Tudor FXD)
Would LOVE to see a video where you go into more detail with an armload of examples of the pure/original designs, and the army of derivatives. Great video! I've had my eye on the SeaQ for a long time but that price...
Absolutely stunning line of watches. The only gripe I have aside from the price is that I do with they showed off that gorgeous movement in the 39mm version. Also that roge gold two tone version they have with the grey dial has to be one of the only 2 tome divers I have ever fallen in love with ( via TH-cam). Great episode today. Love seeing a brand we should be talking about more often!
The 39mm is lacking in a lot of areas when it comes to movement (like the PR, balance spring) and the Panorama neatens up everything. From the date, clear back, 70hrs Reserve? It's a no-brainer! And that TT grey dial with gold? Maaaan... I'd absolutely add one of these if money was no option 🥃 A pleasure to discuss these beauts this week Michael and thank you brother!
I own the rose gold two tone, with big date... it's a fantastic watch, which I never get tired of wearing! I love the large date window at the 4:00 position... the grey dial with amazing texture.... it really amazes me how little attention the SeaQ gets! Flip it over, and you can admire the workmanship of the movement, with it's gold rotor and nicely decorated parts! It's not inexpensive, but it's really a fantastic timepiece! You won't get the attention a Rolex will bring you, and for me... that's fine!
I agree, i had the chance to try one out in a Bücherer Boutique, feels so good on the wrist. I especially like the big date version, but the smaller size is more suitable for me. Thanks mate for the video 👍🏽👍🏽
A pleasure to share brother and these truly sound fantastic! The more I look at them, weighing up the options...incredible 🔥Hope you're having an excellent weekend 🥃
I own the SeaQ Panoramadate. I love everything about it, except I wish it was a little thinner. Holding it next to the Rolex SeaDweller, it feels like it's a level or two higher.
Funny how that works, right? When you suddenly see that "next step" with a watch and how it can in many ways justify the change in pricetag. Like with so many things, that finer attention to detail makes all the difference 🥃
I agree..I had the Panoluner for a while and for a dress watch it was just too thick. Love the dial and looks, but it had to go to make room for some other watches.
I've own the SeaQ in reed green for 18 months and I absolutely love wearing it. The design language, the details, the finishing, the overall execution are top notch. And it remains a very discrete watch, at least worn on a tropic style rubber or fabric strap. My only knock is the power reserve of 40 hours, which for a modern watch is on the (very) low side, and I would have liked a silicone hairspring. Mind you, it never bothered me on any of my 4 or 5 digit Rolex models. Also, I think that part of the reason why this model is overlooked is that you need to have been around the block a few times, and experienced the bigger names (Rolex, Omega) to really appreciate what it brings to the table.
Certainly very under appreciated.. recently had a hard time trying to sell my mint 2020 blue dial SEAQ panorama date on the bracelet for £7k ( RRP £11600) . Watchfinder offered £4500! Beautiful watch but don’t pay much for one unless you intend on keeping it forever..a bit like Grand Seiko it just doesn’t have any brand recognition outside of a watch nerd which ultimately limits confidence in pre-owned values.
Thank you for sharing this Andrew and I'm sorry it took a while to sell your SeaQ off. Excellent advice too, I think many should take heed when it comes to deciding to sell pieces off (it can be one helluva wait before a watch goes) 🥃
I think it is a victim of the BB58. It fits the same as the BB58 you can't see either movement so you miss out on the SeaQ specialness and the price differential between them is too great. The price is above a submariner. Priced at £6.5k to £7k this would be very popular. Looking at the GO catalogue for very simialar money to the Panomatic Lunar. If i was buying a GO I would have the Pano lunar as its more visually interesting and the movement is beautiful to look at.
Agreed David, stumbled on a second hand PanoReserve and man... £6k... it just looked exceptional!! Something tells me GO will be the next brand I pursue in the next 10 years 😆🥃
I agree with you this wearing / feeling very much like a BB58, but you put them side by side and the finishing is worlds apart. The part where I disagree is the price: in actual life, you have close to zero chance to being able to purchase a Submariner at list price. To have it, you have to accept to pay a premium, that brings it above the price of a SeaQ. As for the SeaQ itself, I picked mine new (with warranty card etc.) from a grey dealer in HK for HKD 53.5k, which is about GBP 5.5k. At that price point, it beats virtually any dive watch on the market
I picked up a green 39 last year secondhand and was absolutely blown away when it arrived. Superb fit and finish, 1s/d accuracy and a perfect clasp. A delight in every way.
My black 39 has settled in at +2 s/d which is mind blowing given that GO doesn't market this as a chronometer. Sure the movement isn't the best in terms of specs but I notice the great accuracy every day.
@@gr8tdane24 I have a panodate, it seems to be +2.5 seconds a day, I don't ever see a - day. Being that predictable, I set it once a month; I set it about 40 seconds behind the real time at the start of the month and by the end of the month it is about 40 seconds 'fast'. I should check and see what my wife's SeaQ is for accuracy but its hard to get it off her wrist!
Yeah, Glashutte is pinnacle of watchmaking with all watch brands ! And everyone is a bit different than the other one, easly recognizable from each other. small note, wall was dividing Berlin only, rest of the country was divided by border.
Definitely a beautiful watch that’s stands out in the crowd. A real eye catcher. I’ve tried them on at my local AD and would love to have one in my small collection if it weren’t for the high price.
I'm a fan of the SeaQ (black dial only), but as you mentioned the price makes it easy to overlook. The cheapest 39.5mm on rubber is over £8k here, and you've only got a 2 year warranty. Competitors, some more direct than others, all offer 5 years now, with some going to 8.
I want to see their panorama date chrono, executed with a vibrant red dial (blue is too common nowadays, Omega's new Aquaterra with the red dial is class), titanium case (for weight saving and more of tool watch look), all indices on the bezel to have lume (like the Tudor FXD)......and then here is innovative bit - fixed lugs with a quality fabric strap (again like the Tudor FXD), but also having a quick release device so a conventional strap can be snapped on (like a Vacheron). If you use your watch in open water, then you really feel the reassurance of having fixed lugs and the practicality of a velcro strap to go over wetsuit / glove cuffs.......however, with a quality timepiece like this, you don't want to wear it out on the town with a velcro strap, you want a quality strap with a deployment clasp, hence how combining these two designs could be big win /differentiator for this model.
With these watches being available, why would you take a Submariner over this? Unless you are obsessed with the crown and resale value. The build quality in these pieces are phenomenal. It’s a watch persons watch for sure. Love it! 😍
@@ID-Guy great point! The BB does scratch that itch at a fraction of the cost and in todays currency, is probably a cooler watch. I love what GO does and have a couple of their pieces on a wish list! Slainte 🥃
Great point on this brother. I can see the frustrations (and I'm sure they'll address it) seems like many are shifting their collections around and bringing their sizes down lately 🥃
I looked seriously at the SeaQ watches before buying a GS White Birch High Beat. The design, finishing, and movement really appealed to me. Unfortunately, I wasn’t really looking for another dive watch, particularly such an upscale one that I’d be scared to use in many situations where I might damage it. In short, I agree with your take on why these watches are often overlooked, while holding great admiration for them. I also agree with the comment that the smaller model should have an open case back with an updated movement that has a larger power reserve.
I have the Rolex Sub 16613 and was looking for a daily wear tool watch. I really like the 1960's era dive style and went with a Seestern S435, at only $200. Ruggedly built, with incredible specs at this price point. Is it a knock-off of the SeaQ? On first pass, it certainly seems so...until one understands that both the SeaQ and the S435 take this venerable design from watches like Le Forban Securite Mer (which pre-dated the East German GUB diver)!
Beautiful watch, spot on review! However, while I am comfortable using my Tudor GMT or Sinn 856 as the tools they were meant to be, I would be reluctant to do so with this watch due to the price. Keep up the great work!
This is my first luxury watch and if you’d told me before I bought it that I would wear a $12,000 watch while washing the dishes I would have said you were crazy. But I do exactly that. I never think about taking it off. I’ve decided to own every scratch as a badge of honor, as a record of my life’s activity for my grandson to look at when it one day becomes his, as I have my grandfather’s Elgin pocket watch and my father’s Hamilton wristwatch.
Hey ID-Guy, fantastic review of the SeaQ. Agree with everything that's said. I was wondering which model you would choose, the panorama date or the faithful to original? Dial color? Thanks.
I'm a simple guy, given all the choices, the Panorama in Blue (love the sunburst) BUT in Green? yeah, green would be my choice looking at my collection 😉 Panorama has a waaaay better movement with lots of updated tech + a clear caseback (huge win) 🥃
That is a stunning watch and they have some amazing designs in their other models. I love really everything about this watch except for it’s price. That’s not the watch’s fault but rather the meager contents of my wallet!😂 Thanks for highlighting such a beautiful watch. I could look at all of their models for hours. They are so mesmerizing. What a great way to start the weekend!🥃
Money ruins everything 😉 My pleasure to share these Alvin (been wanting to cover the SeaQ properly for a while) Ah, Glashutte... genuinely think it'll be the next brand I pursue in the future (probably 10 years from now 😆🥃)
I don’t know man, pretty sure having each click on the bezel be distinct (ie individually different) is a sign of poor quality. Of course I’m kidding and I know exactly what you meant by that. Nowadays you can get €300 watches with better bezel feel than most divers over €1000, which is great to me. Looking forward to another great video!
That's the beauty today! Finding watches that cost 1/10th of the price that have incredible bezels, a sign of manufacturing quality at its finest 😉 Thank you brother 🥃
Its an awesome looking watch with a great movement. There's another I liked, seventies vintage square non chronograph variant, but I think it's discontinued
Nice video. Of course. For mine this is the pick of the Luxury Diver 'category'. That said, they are somewhat like getting take-out from a Michelin Star restaurant. I'm with you that something like a Tudor makes more sense - a quality practical piece at a sensible price for a robust, water-capable watch that is plenty enjoyable for being just that. .
am I the only person who despise the date at 4? In fact, I really don't need date on a diver watch to begin with... the open 6 is a nice touch tho, and I love the green of this watch!
I'm one of the few that love the 4-5 date window on pieces (something about that offsetting gets me) There's symmetry but also asymmetry 😉 But I can understand your feelings though - it's kinda "out there" 🥃
@@ID-Guy I think that if you need to worry about what the date is, while diving (ok let's face it, none of us will do with our time pieces, but anyway) then you have a bigger problem than that, you know? XDDDDD So no date for me!
1. The dial seems pinched, like the furniture is too big for the room. The Panorama date model didn’t well scale down. 2. The lack of panorama date takes away the brand’s most attractive feature. 3. Must have a transparent case back! 4a. 40 hours of power reserve on a $10k watch is no bueno. 4b. PCLs are maddening.
I have sold many watches of mine and have only kept my 1998 Submariner, 1997 Steel Daytona and 1970 Heuer Montreal...Added the SeaQ Pano Date bicolour. I could not resist. Wear these 4 watches equally and all the time. I know its way better quality than Rolex, but still love my Rolexes.
I wish if it is with crown guard as Panorama Date (which I see as a direct rival to Sea Dweller 43 mm). I've been thinking about this watch many times. Price is still significally higher and that is a problem. However, in terms of design this one really stands out from regular staff out there. You buy it beacuse you really wants something different but still high quality.
Look at the grey market prices of available common Rolex Submariner. Or Rolex Sea Dweller. The prices are comparable or above those of the Glashutte SeaQ Panorama I’m considering selling my Milgauss GV and getting a SeaQ Panorama Date. The thinking man’s sub, but with Rolls Royce qualities rather than Vauxhall
Think long and hard about it Michael, but it's a helluva cool swap. Considering what the Panorama offers with all of that character, big date, great presence and colours... it's amazing. But if its a Z-blue milgauss you're considering trading, absolutely NOT 😉
Make sure you try it before. The SeaQ PD is very much the same size as a modern Sea-Dweller, you really need to have the wrist for it, and it's heavy too.
Tried one on. Size OK 👍🏻 Underwhelmed with the blue, the really prominent domed crystal and whilst the movement looked lovely. The watch didn’t feel like £12k. Admittedly far superior to a Rolex Sub. But sadly not for me.
My favourite type of watches are new reissues of the 1950s and 1960s skin diver vintage watches like Omega Seamaster 300 Heritage, Omega Seamaster 300 The 1957 Trilogy, Tudor Black Bay 58, Tudor Black Bay 54, Oris Diver's Sixty-Five, Seiko The 1965 Diver's Re-creation watches, Seiko SPB053/SPB051, and some other watches. This Glashutte's Original SeaQ watch is almost my grail watch. Everything is perfect about that watch, quality, size, and style but I can't stand those huge Arabic Numerals. They are enormous and there are too many of them. They should've made a similar dial to Omega Heritage, four smaller numerals without a date window on the dial. I can't believe that I'm the only one with this opinion, nobody else ever complains about that! Please take a look at Seiko SPB053 (with blue dial and blue bezel), or Seiko SPB051 (with black dial and black bezel). I own Seiko SPB053 and I consider it one of the most beautiful diver's watches ever made. The case is slightly bigger than SeaQ (42.6 diameters and 49.8 lug tip to lug tip) but otherwise, they look almost identical. The dial on my Seiko is the closest thing to perfection and that curvy case, nobody ever made a diver case like that! A very classy tool watch!
Nice one, buddy! Yep, a beautiful, characterful watch and I'm a big fan of GO - the Senators are great, but huge! The SeaQ is a funny one - people conflate the two models and assume they are both equal quality horology,. The Pano Date is very good, but its size is off-putting for a skin-diver form and it wears bigger than the larger FF (not easy to just scale up a form that was originally 37-39mm). The standard 39mm model is a great dial and case, but a very basic movement for which they ask crazy money. It's not in the same league of movement quality as either size Bathyscaphe (although I think better looking) and really the movement is inferior to a host of cheaper divers like the Sub or Marinemaster. Neither as well made or classic as the SM Trilogy!
While the movement of the 39mm SeaQ is technically not as advanced as that of a Submariner or a Marinemaster, owing to it originating in the 90's, it is substantially better finished than either of them.
THOUGHTS; You kind of said it all man. I've liked the blue version for a while but from my dive watch, I'm looking for a tool. Basically something that is similar to how I use my G shock - cycling, hill walking and general use. For the money, I'd be getting a Tudor BB54 ... or 39mm Pelagos? What do you think of them. I saw it once and found the brushed bezel and dial a bit too dead looking. But maybe it deserves a chance? Anyway, so yes. SeaQ is gorgeous but I'll be saving myself a lot of money and worry by getting a tudor or Omega
The BB54 has been with me all week in between sun, lawn mowing and washing the car. It really has managed to find its own footing in the collection. If I were you I'd go BB54 (believe me, I'd say P39 if I thought it was cooler 😉)
Being an engineer, how is the BB54 bezel grip from a tactile perspective? Is it a designed to be used as genuine scuba-diving watch like the submariner and Pelagos 39 (ruined only by its extreme relectiveness), or is it more a dive-style watch like the BB58? Thanks.
I'd say it's less of a "professional" dive watch compared to models like the Pelagos (with the coin edging) but the grip is so tactile for what it is, very nice and sharp, easy to grip with your fingers and hardly any pressure needed to get a solid grip on it 😉
Love my SeaQ 39. Great size and love the micro adjustment on the bracelet. In some ways, like this better than the oyster bracelet, just wish it had a bit more taper. Also wish the 39 had the display case back :-(. like the larger version does. To your point, I also love the Tudors and have several . . . the SeaQ dial blows away the Tudor though. As much as I'm a fan of Tudor, the SeaQ is in a different category. Also the lumen on the hour marker blows away the 3, 6, 9 on my Explorer or markers on the Sub.
Spectacular piece. How is the finishing compared to the Rolex Submariner? Although they give off different vibes and the rolex feels more cold and industrial, it feels as if there is just more care with this SeaQ. I have a bb58 which I love but have been looking at some other dive watches, this being top of that list.
The details on the SeaQ is something else. Just minor things like the movements are handfinished (I'd recommend looking at the Panorama Date because of the way they've smashed the big date, clear back and colours) 🥃
The finishing is far superior to that of a Rolex, from the various types of brushed finishes on the case, to the beveling of the sides, to the dial and hands. And that's before talking about the movement, that has an industrial finishing for Rolex vs. multiple elements of haute horlogerie hand finishing at GO (anglage of the bridges, black polishing of the scres, etc.).
This watch is on my list, but as you mentioned, the pricing is somewhat of a road block. For my grail journey, I think I'll litter the path with more attainable models first. Speaking of which, didnt you own a Longines Big Eye? Still have it?
Great call brother and yes! Still have the BigEye, it lives on a black croc leather strap and still blows me away when I pull it out. Even to this day, still the best value for money watch I've found (huge discount brand new) and it's bulletproof! 🥃
@@ID-Guy Just a quick question--do you find it too thick? (I'm still debating between the steel or titanium version--but used versions of the titanium are still pricey.)
@@ID-Guy True. Pre-owned there are some excellent deals to be had. It does bring that touch of difference and not following the crowd that I like. However, I have the Orient Star Sports Diver for originality and the Seamaster for quality and class
Ya, I really like it, but that price is just too hard to justify. But I'm not rich, at that price it has to be one of my favorite watches of all time. If I had big $ and a big collection I could definitely see adding this to it.
I assume you are looking at the SeaQ Panorama Date at 43.5mm diameter together with the Bathyscaphe, as the regular GO SeaQ at 39.5mm is quite a bit smaller and not really comparable. I think the SeaQ PD and the Bathyscaphe are very comparable specs and finish wise. They it comes down to which look you prefer, as the Bathyscaphe is a bit more stern. I would also highly recommend trying both, as the SeaQ PD is almost 2mm thicker than the Bathyscaphe. The latter would be my choice for that reason alone.
@@johnnyguitar6697 Yes the Sea Q PD.. I saw the PD on TIM MOSSO'S small wrist I was pleasantly surprised at its height and lug to lug which seemed doable...I live in an area where GO boutiques are not prevalent. The Bathyscaphe seemed almost simpler in design and more dressy than the PD for sure. ...thanks for your response.
@@mdo5121 I do own the SeaQ 39.5mm in reed green and really love it (proportions, finish, etc.). For my 17.5cm wrist (6.9 in.) however, I would pick the Bathyscaphe over the SeaQ PD. More specifically, I would pick the Bathyscaphe in titanium, with its wonderful vertically brushed dial. The size is manageable, and the reduced weight of titanim means it's not going to be incomfortable after a day's wear.
I love the SeaQ design. But it’s also a little bipolar. Skindiver = tool to me, but SeaQ also tries to be upscale with the bracelet and especially that price. The clasp is fantastic by the way. GO should fully brush the bracelet and knock the price down by $3-4k.
You beat me to it: and across the board with other GER brands; the pricing. The designs are very good. Sinn (would own a U50 in a heartbeat), Nomos, and Glashutte - just too expensive.
Most of the GO watches, I’d rather just save up for a Lange. For the divers, I just don’t like the curves/lines as much as Rolex/Omega/Tudor/Breitling (speaking looks, nothing else).
Retail can be very pricey but man... the bargains you find on the Grey... I saw a PanoReserve for £6k the other day. Similar to brand like Zenith second hand, some of these pieces are just incredible finds. The beauty of the hunt 😉
Glasshutte should use submarine steel to produce a real diver, with tough character for the daily wear. Sinn has Tegimented submarine steel, no need to worry about salt water, chlorine or the hurdles of dailywear. High polish surface are beautiful when they reflect light but the scratches are highly noticeable. Even my Rolex GMT II, i been wearing for 18 yrs but i dont take it to the pool or the beach, as it damages the finish. I never had mybwatch polished either, i keep it”as is” for true character. But GH original Pano is a beautiful watch indeed, i happen to like it more with a sailcloth strap or silicone strap.
Western submarines actually use an HY80,000~HY130,000 steel (low alloy, high yield strength) for their pressure hulls (the higher ratings typically on the top of the sail and top of the rudder...where the boat may need to break ice). You probably would not want to use submarine steel for this application...but that just my opinion...as a former submarine officer on a 688-class fast attack boat. It's much more susceptible to staining/rust if not properly maintained (painted/coated). These steels are necessary for their low weight to high strength ratio. They are also used for their durability under cyclical pressure loading. The 316L Stainless Steel used on most watches is a much better material for this use-case. It's actually harder (more scratch resistant) than the Rolex Sub steel, but will not deliver the same degree of finished luster.
*"...lack originality..."* *_This approach avoids risk and makes more money in the short and maybe also medium term. Only after a profitable run of conformity and predictably boring derivative designs can a manufacturer afford risky moves. How many will, at that point, be willing or even aware of it? Most success creates a habit of taking the same approach. Only a small few innovative designs become a hit._*
Allow me to put my very own nail in this one: It looks like something Orient, specifically in its Orient Star line, would design. Nothing wrong with Orient by the way. Not at all. But this watch looks a bit comical and rather cheap, and I so very much want to like it!
Glashutte in general you can sneak for amazing discounts. I stumbled on a PanoReserve the other day for £6k. Like with most things in life, it's all about timing 😉
I bought a GO Senator over 15 years ago, new. If I were to buy again, I would purchase second hand from a reputable source (with box/papers). GO's do not seem to hold there sticker value...though they tend to reach a point...25-30% below sticker where they settle in price on the second hand market.
I am going to guess that the "average" price of a Tudor is $4,000. Is that price considered a watch that a majority of 'watch people' wear, with zero concerns of damaging it/banging it against something? I mean, I 'get' that it's all relative, but is a $4,000 watch something you'd wear to do yard work, go hiking, fishing, washing your car? I was under the impression that a majority of people have G-Shocks, Timex's, and whatnot for such activities. Perhaps I am neurotic.
It's an expensive beautifully made watch but if someone wants and can afford it why not? Making the case for a BB rather than a GO is like making a case for a Seiko/Citizen/Orient or suchlike rather than a BB. Both cases are valid but don't apply to the person who could buy watches at all three levels without thinking of the expense.
I absolutely love the SeaQ, and would own one if they added an open case back to the 39 and fixed the mismatched end links (either fully brush the bracelet or polish the center of the end link). The current mismatch with the PCLs on the bracelet but fully brushed end link is extremely poor design. Otherwise this watch is an absolute beauty! I've come so close to selling my BB58 for one of these, but these 2 issues hold me back. I'm still tempted by the gold version which has an open case back.
From the GO website, it seems they have listened to the multiple complains about the polished center links: the pictures now show all bracelets i the SeaQ line being fully brushed.
The SeaQ is a really special piece in a lot of ways. It does not look like your typical modern dive watch, it has tonnes of character and goes the extra mile with a gorgeous hand finished movement. So what do you Love and Dislike about this machine? 🥃
I love everything about it design wise but as always I think in depreciation, I never buy a new car, especially German brands, you take 2 yrs older and you save up to 40% on the retail price.
I'm pretty sure it will retain its value quite well but since it's a "niche" model, and not a Rolex, it'll taste a bit of depreciation for sure.
Patience is a thing.
@@Jonnybravo6742 I feel you on this! 😆🥃
@@LaurentiusTriarius The beauty is always the hunt and you're right, finding models like these second hand can be a huge win (that's where I'd be looking always) 🥃
I have a rose gold and steel Pano date SEAQ and I love it… I will try it with a nylon strap this summer.. it’s a big piece and it’s superbly well made, excellent finishing
The Panorama date in black has everything I want in a watch. If I could afford one, it would be my only watch.
My experience with the Glashütte Original SeaQ Panoramadate: Easy to read the time. Hard to copy the big date (and quality), so there are no copies around. Safe to wear, criminals don't know this brand. And when I wear it in a Rolex AD, they show me the hidden Rolexes and want to sell them to me. Yes, this really has happened.
Fantastic recounting of your experiences Roy and I can believe it all completely. Maybe the SeaQ's aren't aimed at the "new time buyer", but man, anyone who wears these, they know what they're doing - obviously have a bit of experience 😉
I bought the SEAQ Panorama Date in January of this year. My first luxury mechanical timepiece. I love looking at it, it functions beautifully and I never think about taking it off because it’s so rugged. I also love that no one recognizes it.
It happened to me too. I was wearing my GO PanomaticLunar. Somehow they offered me Submariner to buy…and I bought it.
This timepiece is my one and only watch of a lifetime that would conceivably be my final watch purchase ever With the biggest smile inside and out
This entire video made me so happy! I’ve had the SEAQ on the mind for a WHILE now! Truly love this watch but the price just hurts my soul!
Love my SEAQ Panorama Date. I love the fact that it is not widely popular. It is the watch in my collection that has started the most conversations.
You're a lucky man. Think the Panorama would be my choice too (probably in green looking at the collection) Movement is tops - massive improvement over the 39mm AND with a clear back? Yeah, pretty much a no-brainer 😉 Thank you for sharing Willem!
I'd say theyd probs sell more if they gave the smaller version an open case back
Agreed. The Panorama with the clear back offers so much more as a package. I believe they kept the 39mm model solid to be closer to the original (but also because the movement is not "up to date" with their standards) Maybe there was some debate about the approach 🥃
Curiously enough, my favorite of the two is the 39mm by a mile. If I were to make a choice between them, I’d go “small”.
Exactly. If I'm getting a GO, I'm gonna need to see the movement. I associate GO with beautifully finished movements.
If they could shrink the panorama just a tad it'd probably be on my long term goals list.
Agree
The red gold variant has a see through case back....but its a chunky price
I love my SeaQ. If it was between my 116610 submariner or my SeaQ, im picking the Glashütte every time.
Like you I wouldn't give it a second thought 😉 I'd sell my entire collection before letting my '57 Seamaster go for that same reason 🥃
Totally agree with all your comments about the GO SeaQ. I had an Omega PO but wanted a timepiece that had uniqueness and a wow factor. That search led me to the GO SeaQ Panorama Date. I received the blue dial version on 25/08/23. It's truly stunning masterpiece. I'm so glad these watches aren't aimed at the masses. Give me this over a Rolex Submariner or Sea Dweller any day. In my opinion the GO SeaQ outshines the Blancpain Fifty Fathoms and Bathyscaphe
I bought one. Having the Anti-Submariner is saying something. History, great finishing, german design, micro-adjusting bracelet, excellent lume. Something truly unique and special
...until one realizes that the SeaQ takes its design from the GUB diver, which stole its design from the French "Le Forban Securite Mer". I opted for the Seestern S435 with sunburst blue dial. At only $200, it's a terrific every-day tool watch...as I prefer not to wear my Rolex Sub (16613) daily.
@@jb678901 that is indeed interesting and new for me. Just had a look at these Le Forbans and they look relatively decent. However, especially when you were able to have a closer look at these Glashütte Originals, they are absolutely stunning. Credits to the dial design, but apart from that, you won't be able to have these compete on the same ground.
Tbh, I would pick this piece over the Submariner every single time. It’s fearsome character, the beautiful box sapphire, the marvelous calibre, it is simply put, a majestic machine.
AND it's almost unrecognisable unless you're really deep into watches...yet another bonus 😉
I own this watch and after owning multiple other divers this is a truly special piece and different from everything else out there. As always spot on video. Cheers.
Thank you for this Hec. Character and a unique design is hard to find today but man... the SeaQ has it everywhere 🥃
@IDGuy and you didn't even mention the box it comes with, also high quality, and well thought out.
Would you care to share the accuracy of your watch and any thoughts on shock resistance? Many thanks
@@danr6175 hi. My watch is very consistently at +1 to +2 seconds per day. Very pleased with the accuracy. Can’t talk about shock resistance as I haven’t dropped it thank goodness but I’ve taken it to the pool, beach and river and I’ve had no issues with accuracy or performance. I love this watch and it’s one of my favorites.
Great video as always. Massively underrated watch and brand. The details are superb! That typography is just killer and up there with Lange. Glashutte should get more love from the community with such great quality and really cool designs.
Genuinely think this is the next brand I'll be pursing in the future. Landed on a PanoReserve for a steal the other day and scratched my head thinking the same thing. Why is nobody looking at these incredible machines? 🥃
I'm a dive watch junkie. My first was a Breitling Shark followed by a Rolex 16610 Sub, Omega Planet Ocean, Glashutte Original Sport Evolution Panorama Date and Finally a GO SeaQ Pano. I have a 7 5/8' wrist so I prefer bigger watches and the SeaQ is perfect. I'm 65 and haven't been diving in about 10 years but I still love these watches. I'm thinking about selling them all and just keeping the SeaQ.
Loved every second of your exploration of the SEAQ’s merits and downfalls. I’m always drawn to the outlier, the “alternative” choice, and this model really speaks to me. Thanks again, I might have to add this to my diver collection (so far a Sea-dweller 16600 and my Tudor FXD)
Would LOVE to see a video where you go into more detail with an armload of examples of the pure/original designs, and the army of derivatives.
Great video! I've had my eye on the SeaQ for a long time but that price...
Might be the highest horology dive watch out there.
These are gorgeous.
Absolutely stunning line of watches. The only gripe I have aside from the price is that I do with they showed off that gorgeous movement in the 39mm version. Also that roge gold two tone version they have with the grey dial has to be one of the only 2 tome divers I have ever fallen in love with ( via TH-cam). Great episode today. Love seeing a brand we should be talking about more often!
The 39mm is lacking in a lot of areas when it comes to movement (like the PR, balance spring) and the Panorama neatens up everything. From the date, clear back, 70hrs Reserve? It's a no-brainer! And that TT grey dial with gold? Maaaan... I'd absolutely add one of these if money was no option 🥃 A pleasure to discuss these beauts this week Michael and thank you brother!
100 hours power reserve for Pano date. It's a awesome watch tried it a few times. Just next level
Amazing High Horologoy with GO!
Not overlooked by me. The SeaQ is on my list to get at some point. An absolute classic.
And the beauty is, no matter what, the masses will never look at them the same way we do 😉
You won't regret it! Love my Glashütte Original SeaQ Panoramadatum
I own the rose gold two tone, with big date... it's a fantastic watch, which I never get tired of wearing!
I love the large date window at the 4:00 position... the grey dial with amazing texture.... it really amazes me how little attention the SeaQ gets! Flip it over, and you can admire the workmanship of the movement, with it's gold rotor and nicely decorated parts!
It's not inexpensive, but it's really a fantastic timepiece! You won't get the attention a Rolex will bring you, and for me... that's fine!
I have the bi-color as well; its a cracker watch.
I agree, i had the chance to try one out in a Bücherer Boutique, feels so good on the wrist. I especially like the big date version, but the smaller size is more suitable for me. Thanks mate for the video 👍🏽👍🏽
A pleasure to share brother and these truly sound fantastic! The more I look at them, weighing up the options...incredible 🔥Hope you're having an excellent weekend 🥃
I love these and the update with fully brushed bracelet is massive positive.
I own the SeaQ Panoramadate. I love everything about it, except I wish it was a little thinner. Holding it next to the Rolex SeaDweller, it feels like it's a level or two higher.
Funny how that works, right? When you suddenly see that "next step" with a watch and how it can in many ways justify the change in pricetag. Like with so many things, that finer attention to detail makes all the difference 🥃
I agree..I had the Panoluner for a while and for a dress watch it was just too thick. Love the dial and looks, but it had to go to make room for some other watches.
I've own the SeaQ in reed green for 18 months and I absolutely love wearing it. The design language, the details, the finishing, the overall execution are top notch. And it remains a very discrete watch, at least worn on a tropic style rubber or fabric strap. My only knock is the power reserve of 40 hours, which for a modern watch is on the (very) low side, and I would have liked a silicone hairspring. Mind you, it never bothered me on any of my 4 or 5 digit Rolex models. Also, I think that part of the reason why this model is overlooked is that you need to have been around the block a few times, and experienced the bigger names (Rolex, Omega) to really appreciate what it brings to the table.
Still loving mine! Great vid IDGUY
Still so chuffed you have one Tom! Much love brother 🥃
Certainly very under appreciated.. recently had a hard time trying to sell my mint 2020 blue dial SEAQ panorama date on the bracelet for £7k ( RRP £11600) . Watchfinder offered £4500! Beautiful watch but don’t pay much for one unless you intend on keeping it forever..a bit like Grand Seiko it just doesn’t have any brand recognition outside of a watch nerd which ultimately limits confidence in pre-owned values.
Thank you for sharing this Andrew and I'm sorry it took a while to sell your SeaQ off. Excellent advice too, I think many should take heed when it comes to deciding to sell pieces off (it can be one helluva wait before a watch goes) 🥃
Would take one of these over a submariner without hesitation.
I think it is a victim of the BB58. It fits the same as the BB58 you can't see either movement so you miss out on the SeaQ specialness and the price differential between them is too great. The price is above a submariner. Priced at £6.5k to £7k this would be very popular. Looking at the GO catalogue for very simialar money to the Panomatic Lunar. If i was buying a GO I would have the Pano lunar as its more visually interesting and the movement is beautiful to look at.
Agreed David, stumbled on a second hand PanoReserve and man... £6k... it just looked exceptional!! Something tells me GO will be the next brand I pursue in the next 10 years 😆🥃
I agree with you this wearing / feeling very much like a BB58, but you put them side by side and the finishing is worlds apart. The part where I disagree is the price: in actual life, you have close to zero chance to being able to purchase a Submariner at list price. To have it, you have to accept to pay a premium, that brings it above the price of a SeaQ. As for the SeaQ itself, I picked mine new (with warranty card etc.) from a grey dealer in HK for HKD 53.5k, which is about GBP 5.5k. At that price point, it beats virtually any dive watch on the market
Dear Mr IDGuy.
I’m in that same beautiful wooden boat as you.
If I only had the moolah.❤
It's a killer Dave... money always ruins everything 😆🥃
No words to say more than you about 👍👏👏 definitely one of the best watch and love skin diver 👌 still dreaming about Sla017 and SEAQ panorama 👌👍😎
I missed out on an SLA017 about a year ago... and I'm still kicking myself 😆 Funny how we always remember our misses 🥃😂
I picked up a green 39 last year secondhand and was absolutely blown away when it arrived. Superb fit and finish, 1s/d accuracy and a perfect clasp. A delight in every way.
What a testimonial! Thank you for sharing this Bill. You're definitely making it harder for me to avoid window shopping 😉
My black 39 has settled in at +2 s/d which is mind blowing given that GO doesn't market this as a chronometer. Sure the movement isn't the best in terms of specs but I notice the great accuracy every day.
@@gr8tdane24 I have a panodate, it seems to be +2.5 seconds a day, I don't ever see a - day. Being that predictable, I set it once a month; I set it about 40 seconds behind the real time at the start of the month and by the end of the month it is about 40 seconds 'fast'. I should check and see what my wife's SeaQ is for accuracy but its hard to get it off her wrist!
Yeah, Glashutte is pinnacle of watchmaking with all watch brands !
And everyone is a bit different than the other one, easly recognizable from each other.
small note, wall was dividing Berlin only, rest of the country was divided by border.
A well executed design.
Not another cookie cutter watch.
Being one of the masses I feel left out.
I will appreciate from a distance.
You and me both George 😉
Very interesting . I recently learned of G.O. . I think they are some of the best looking watches out.
Definitely a beautiful watch that’s stands out in the crowd. A real eye catcher. I’ve tried them on at my local AD and would love to have one in my small collection if it weren’t for the high price.
Money always ruins everything, brother 🥃
I'm a fan of the SeaQ (black dial only), but as you mentioned the price makes it easy to overlook. The cheapest 39.5mm on rubber is over £8k here, and you've only got a 2 year warranty. Competitors, some more direct than others, all offer 5 years now, with some going to 8.
I want to see their panorama date chrono, executed with a vibrant red dial (blue is too common nowadays, Omega's new Aquaterra with the red dial is class), titanium case (for weight saving and more of tool watch look), all indices on the bezel to have lume (like the Tudor FXD)......and then here is innovative bit - fixed lugs with a quality fabric strap (again like the Tudor FXD), but also having a quick release device so a conventional strap can be snapped on (like a Vacheron).
If you use your watch in open water, then you really feel the reassurance of having fixed lugs and the practicality of a velcro strap to go over wetsuit / glove cuffs.......however, with a quality timepiece like this, you don't want to wear it out on the town with a velcro strap, you want a quality strap with a deployment clasp, hence how combining these two designs could be big win /differentiator for this model.
With these watches being available, why would you take a Submariner over this? Unless you are obsessed with the crown and resale value. The build quality in these pieces are phenomenal. It’s a watch persons watch for sure. Love it! 😍
The BB scratches the Sub itch, opening ALL the avenues to chase these gems. Fully agree David 😉
@@ID-Guy great point! The BB does scratch that itch at a fraction of the cost and in todays currency, is probably a cooler watch. I love what GO does and have a couple of their pieces on a wish list! Slainte 🥃
I wish the 39mm version has crown guard and transparent caseback. These are my own criticisms on SeaQ
Great review, it was the price that put me off👌
I really like it. Especially in the blue
They've smashed the colours with all of these models. They need to double down on those sunbrushed / sunburst finished 🔥
Would love to see GO downsize their lineup a bit. They offer zero pieces below 40mm, and their most interesting (IMO) stuff exceeds 42mm easily.
Great point on this brother. I can see the frustrations (and I'm sure they'll address it) seems like many are shifting their collections around and bringing their sizes down lately 🥃
had a blue one 3 yrs ago, loved it. might have to get a green one now if I can get one for 6k again
I looked seriously at the SeaQ watches before buying a GS White Birch High Beat. The design, finishing, and movement really appealed to me. Unfortunately, I wasn’t really looking for another dive watch, particularly such an upscale one that I’d be scared to use in many situations where I might damage it. In short, I agree with your take on why these watches are often overlooked, while holding great admiration for them. I also agree with the comment that the smaller model should have an open case back with an updated movement that has a larger power reserve.
I have the Rolex Sub 16613 and was looking for a daily wear tool watch. I really like the 1960's era dive style and went with a Seestern S435, at only $200. Ruggedly built, with incredible specs at this price point. Is it a knock-off of the SeaQ? On first pass, it certainly seems so...until one understands that both the SeaQ and the S435 take this venerable design from watches like Le Forban Securite Mer (which pre-dated the East German GUB diver)!
Have you ever checked the Casio duros bezel action. It will truly blow your mind. You can ask Bill Gates too !
I knew Bill Gates rocked a Casio, didn't know it was a Duro. What a cool lil machine! 🔥
Beautiful watch, spot on review! However, while I am comfortable using my Tudor GMT or Sinn 856 as the tools they were meant to be, I would be reluctant to do so with this watch due to the price. Keep up the great work!
Well stated
This is my first luxury watch and if you’d told me before I bought it that I would wear a $12,000 watch while washing the dishes I would have said you were crazy. But I do exactly that. I never think about taking it off. I’ve decided to own every scratch as a badge of honor, as a record of my life’s activity for my grandson to look at when it one day becomes his, as I have my grandfather’s Elgin pocket watch and my father’s Hamilton wristwatch.
@Gary Kolb That's Awesome
Hey ID-Guy, fantastic review of the SeaQ. Agree with everything that's said. I was wondering which model you would choose, the panorama date or the faithful to original? Dial color? Thanks.
I'm a simple guy, given all the choices, the Panorama in Blue (love the sunburst) BUT in Green? yeah, green would be my choice looking at my collection 😉 Panorama has a waaaay better movement with lots of updated tech + a clear caseback (huge win) 🥃
That is a stunning watch and they have some amazing designs in their other models. I love really everything about this watch except for it’s price. That’s not the watch’s fault but rather the meager contents of my wallet!😂 Thanks for highlighting such a beautiful watch. I could look at all of their models for hours. They are so mesmerizing. What a great way to start the weekend!🥃
Money ruins everything 😉 My pleasure to share these Alvin (been wanting to cover the SeaQ properly for a while) Ah, Glashutte... genuinely think it'll be the next brand I pursue in the future (probably 10 years from now 😆🥃)
My favorites are the one with the moon phase complication and the one with the beautiful sword hands.
I don’t know man, pretty sure having each click on the bezel be distinct (ie individually different) is a sign of poor quality. Of course I’m kidding and I know exactly what you meant by that. Nowadays you can get €300 watches with better bezel feel than most divers over €1000, which is great to me. Looking forward to another great video!
That's the beauty today! Finding watches that cost 1/10th of the price that have incredible bezels, a sign of manufacturing quality at its finest 😉 Thank you brother 🥃
Its an awesome looking watch with a great movement. There's another I liked, seventies vintage square non chronograph variant, but I think it's discontinued
Those 70's chrono's are so cool! Real classic "Ellipse - TV" case design 😉🥃
They are great watches ,love GO , thanks 🏴👍
You nailed it with "3 nails in the coffin"😜
Nice video. Of course. For mine this is the pick of the Luxury Diver 'category'. That said, they are somewhat like getting take-out from a Michelin Star restaurant. I'm with you that something like a Tudor makes more sense - a quality practical piece at a sensible price for a robust, water-capable watch that is plenty enjoyable for being just that. .
Excellently said Chris, "take-out from a Michelin Star Restaurant" 😆 Brilliant!
am I the only person who despise the date at 4? In fact, I really don't need date on a diver watch to begin with... the open 6 is a nice touch tho, and I love the green of this watch!
I'm one of the few that love the 4-5 date window on pieces (something about that offsetting gets me) There's symmetry but also asymmetry 😉 But I can understand your feelings though - it's kinda "out there" 🥃
@@ID-Guy I think that if you need to worry about what the date is, while diving (ok let's face it, none of us will do with our time pieces, but anyway) then you have a bigger problem than that, you know? XDDDDD
So no date for me!
1. The dial seems pinched, like the furniture is too big for the room. The Panorama date model didn’t well scale down. 2. The lack of panorama date takes away the brand’s most attractive feature. 3. Must have a transparent case back! 4a. 40 hours of power reserve on a $10k watch is no bueno. 4b. PCLs are maddening.
Well out of my price range but love this piece, especially the blue version. Only nit is it's a shame not showing off that beautiful movement.
i really love this watch design, but their offerings at 39.5mm and 43.5mm leave a lot of folks who are in that 41-42mm sweet spot out in the cold
Bland ubiquitous skin diver case helps it be overlooked. Needs an original design especially in this price range .
Skin Diver cases... probably the most polarising part of the entire equation, agreed 🥃
I have sold many watches of mine and have only kept my 1998 Submariner, 1997 Steel Daytona and 1970 Heuer Montreal...Added the SeaQ Pano Date bicolour. I could not resist. Wear these 4 watches equally and all the time. I know its way better quality than Rolex, but still love my Rolexes.
Love to have the seaq
I wish if it is with crown guard as Panorama Date (which I see as a direct rival to Sea Dweller 43 mm).
I've been thinking about this watch many times.
Price is still significally higher and that is a problem.
However, in terms of design this one really stands out from regular staff out there.
You buy it beacuse you really wants something different but still high quality.
Very nicely said Divjan. Character. So many modern watches today lack character and these SeaQ's have it everywhere 🔥
By the way, the more i see the BB54 the more it impresses me. Fantastic-looking watch.
Look at the grey market prices of available common Rolex Submariner. Or Rolex Sea Dweller. The prices are comparable or above those of the Glashutte SeaQ Panorama
I’m considering selling my Milgauss GV and getting a SeaQ Panorama Date. The thinking man’s sub, but with Rolls Royce qualities rather than Vauxhall
Think long and hard about it Michael, but it's a helluva cool swap. Considering what the Panorama offers with all of that character, big date, great presence and colours... it's amazing. But if its a Z-blue milgauss you're considering trading, absolutely NOT 😉
@@ID-Guy
No it’s a Black GV 2014
Make sure you try it before. The SeaQ PD is very much the same size as a modern Sea-Dweller, you really need to have the wrist for it, and it's heavy too.
Tried one on. Size OK 👍🏻
Underwhelmed with the blue, the really prominent domed crystal and whilst the movement looked lovely. The watch didn’t feel like £12k. Admittedly far superior to a Rolex Sub. But sadly not for me.
It's o e of my grail wat he's..... The movement is gorgeous
My favourite type of watches are new reissues of the 1950s and 1960s skin diver vintage watches like Omega Seamaster 300 Heritage, Omega Seamaster 300 The 1957 Trilogy, Tudor Black Bay 58, Tudor Black Bay 54, Oris Diver's Sixty-Five, Seiko The 1965 Diver's Re-creation watches, Seiko SPB053/SPB051, and some other watches.
This Glashutte's Original SeaQ watch is almost my grail watch. Everything is perfect about that watch, quality, size, and style but I can't stand those huge Arabic Numerals. They are enormous and there are too many of them. They should've made a similar dial to Omega Heritage, four smaller numerals without a date window on the dial.
I can't believe that I'm the only one with this opinion, nobody else ever complains about that!
Please take a look at Seiko SPB053 (with blue dial and blue bezel), or Seiko SPB051 (with black dial and black bezel). I own Seiko SPB053 and I consider it one of the most beautiful diver's watches ever made. The case is slightly bigger than SeaQ (42.6 diameters and 49.8 lug tip to lug tip) but otherwise, they look almost identical. The dial on my Seiko is the closest thing to perfection and that curvy case, nobody ever made a diver case like that!
A very classy tool watch!
agree about the massive arabic numbers.
"Genta-fication" is a genius portmanteau.
Nice one, buddy! Yep, a beautiful, characterful watch and I'm a big fan of GO - the Senators are great, but huge! The SeaQ is a funny one - people conflate the two models and assume they are both equal quality horology,. The Pano Date is very good, but its size is off-putting for a skin-diver form and it wears bigger than the larger FF (not easy to just scale up a form that was originally 37-39mm). The standard 39mm model is a great dial and case, but a very basic movement for which they ask crazy money. It's not in the same league of movement quality as either size Bathyscaphe (although I think better looking) and really the movement is inferior to a host of cheaper divers like the Sub or Marinemaster. Neither as well made or classic as the SM Trilogy!
While the movement of the 39mm SeaQ is technically not as advanced as that of a Submariner or a Marinemaster, owing to it originating in the 90's, it is substantially better finished than either of them.
Well said. As always ….
Really appreciate it man, thank you 🥃
THOUGHTS;
You kind of said it all man. I've liked the blue version for a while but from my dive watch, I'm looking for a tool. Basically something that is similar to how I use my G shock - cycling, hill walking and general use. For the money, I'd be getting a Tudor BB54 ... or 39mm Pelagos? What do you think of them. I saw it once and found the brushed bezel and dial a bit too dead looking. But maybe it deserves a chance?
Anyway, so yes. SeaQ is gorgeous but I'll be saving myself a lot of money and worry by getting a tudor or Omega
The BB54 has been with me all week in between sun, lawn mowing and washing the car. It really has managed to find its own footing in the collection. If I were you I'd go BB54 (believe me, I'd say P39 if I thought it was cooler 😉)
@@ID-Guy nice one thanks dude. Really appreciate it. One of these things - when I'm ready (here we go again ha ha), I'll go and try them both on
I have the panomaticlunar.. chose that over MUT moonphase
Being an engineer, how is the BB54 bezel grip from a tactile perspective? Is it a designed to be used as genuine scuba-diving watch like the submariner and Pelagos 39 (ruined only by its extreme relectiveness), or is it more a dive-style watch like the BB58?
Thanks.
I'd say it's less of a "professional" dive watch compared to models like the Pelagos (with the coin edging) but the grip is so tactile for what it is, very nice and sharp, easy to grip with your fingers and hardly any pressure needed to get a solid grip on it 😉
Amazing watch
Love my SeaQ 39. Great size and love the micro adjustment on the bracelet. In some ways, like this better than the oyster bracelet, just wish it had a bit more taper. Also wish the 39 had the display case back :-(. like the larger version does. To your point, I also love the Tudors and have several . . . the SeaQ dial blows away the Tudor though. As much as I'm a fan of Tudor, the SeaQ is in a different category. Also the lumen on the hour marker blows away the 3, 6, 9 on my Explorer or markers on the Sub.
I’m also struggling between pelagos 39 and SeaQ 39, what’s your take on this ?
Spectacular piece. How is the finishing compared to the Rolex Submariner? Although they give off different vibes and the rolex feels more cold and industrial, it feels as if there is just more care with this SeaQ. I have a bb58 which I love but have been looking at some other dive watches, this being top of that list.
The details on the SeaQ is something else. Just minor things like the movements are handfinished (I'd recommend looking at the Panorama Date because of the way they've smashed the big date, clear back and colours) 🥃
The finishing is far superior to that of a Rolex, from the various types of brushed finishes on the case, to the beveling of the sides, to the dial and hands. And that's before talking about the movement, that has an industrial finishing for Rolex vs. multiple elements of haute horlogerie hand finishing at GO (anglage of the bridges, black polishing of the scres, etc.).
This watch is on my list, but as you mentioned, the pricing is somewhat of a road block. For my grail journey, I think I'll litter the path with more attainable models first. Speaking of which, didnt you own a Longines Big Eye? Still have it?
Great call brother and yes! Still have the BigEye, it lives on a black croc leather strap and still blows me away when I pull it out. Even to this day, still the best value for money watch I've found (huge discount brand new) and it's bulletproof! 🥃
@@ID-Guy Just a quick question--do you find it too thick? (I'm still debating between the steel or titanium version--but used versions of the titanium are still pricey.)
That watch is stunning. So much character, but as others have said, the price is really steep (at least at retail).
Beautiful watch. Excellent brand. Too expensive
The beauty is in the hunt for a second hand model 😉 Just like Zenith (and a handful of others) woefully neglected 🥃
@@ID-Guy True. Pre-owned there are some excellent deals to be had. It does bring that touch of difference and not following the crowd that I like. However, I have the Orient Star Sports Diver for originality and the Seamaster for quality and class
Ya, I really like it, but that price is just too hard to justify. But I'm not rich, at that price it has to be one of my favorite watches of all time. If I had big $ and a big collection I could definitely see adding this to it.
3 nails in the coffing explanes it pretty accurate, despite i love the colour and the desing.
Ncely said Toby. Their colour usage, Two tone and character... it's stellar! 🥃
The Glashutte Original SeaQ is not only the best value dive watch on the market, it is the best value luxury watch on the market of any kind.
I'm still trying to find out who made this design first
"Gent(a)ification" is a fantastic term, haha
It needs to get mainstream 😉 Appreciate it as always Koji! 🥃
How would you compare this watch with the Blancpain Bathascape....from your engineering background...as I am ready to make a decision
I assume you are looking at the SeaQ Panorama Date at 43.5mm diameter together with the Bathyscaphe, as the regular GO SeaQ at 39.5mm is quite a bit smaller and not really comparable. I think the SeaQ PD and the Bathyscaphe are very comparable specs and finish wise. They it comes down to which look you prefer, as the Bathyscaphe is a bit more stern. I would also highly recommend trying both, as the SeaQ PD is almost 2mm thicker than the Bathyscaphe. The latter would be my choice for that reason alone.
@@johnnyguitar6697 Yes the Sea Q PD.. I saw the PD on TIM MOSSO'S small wrist I was pleasantly surprised at its height and lug to lug which seemed doable...I live in an area where GO boutiques are not prevalent. The Bathyscaphe seemed almost simpler in design and more dressy than the PD for sure. ...thanks for your response.
@@mdo5121 I do own the SeaQ 39.5mm in reed green and really love it (proportions, finish, etc.). For my 17.5cm wrist (6.9 in.) however, I would pick the Bathyscaphe over the SeaQ PD. More specifically, I would pick the Bathyscaphe in titanium, with its wonderful vertically brushed dial. The size is manageable, and the reduced weight of titanim means it's not going to be incomfortable after a day's wear.
I love the SeaQ design. But it’s also a little bipolar. Skindiver = tool to me, but SeaQ also tries to be upscale with the bracelet and especially that price. The clasp is fantastic by the way. GO should fully brush the bracelet and knock the price down by $3-4k.
The seaq bracelets now appear to be fully brushed on their website
You beat me to it: and across the board with other GER brands; the pricing. The designs are very good. Sinn (would own a U50 in a heartbeat), Nomos, and Glashutte - just too expensive.
@@acputra81 is this true?!? Going to website now.... The PCLs are a huge flaw in the current design, especially since the end link is fully brushed 🤮
@@acputra81 it's true! Thanks for mentioning this. PCLs have long put me off this watch.
@@acputra81 Well spotted.
I actually love it. It's just... Expensive.
Most of the GO watches, I’d rather just save up for a Lange. For the divers, I just don’t like the curves/lines as much as Rolex/Omega/Tudor/Breitling (speaking looks, nothing else).
They are a fantastic timepiece and id be really interested to see a Glashütte take on a Pepsi style GMT watch!
Around 10,000USD on chrono. I was expecting much higher after hearing your vid. Is that really so highly priced?
Retail can be very pricey but man... the bargains you find on the Grey... I saw a PanoReserve for £6k the other day. Similar to brand like Zenith second hand, some of these pieces are just incredible finds. The beauty of the hunt 😉
Glasshutte should use submarine steel to produce a real diver, with tough character for the daily wear. Sinn has Tegimented submarine steel, no need to worry about salt water, chlorine or the hurdles of dailywear. High polish surface are beautiful when they reflect light but the scratches are highly noticeable.
Even my Rolex GMT II, i been wearing for 18 yrs but i dont take it to the pool or the beach, as it damages the finish. I never had mybwatch polished either, i keep it”as is” for true character. But GH original Pano is a beautiful watch indeed, i happen to like it more with a sailcloth strap or silicone strap.
Western submarines actually use an HY80,000~HY130,000 steel (low alloy, high yield strength) for their pressure hulls (the higher ratings typically on the top of the sail and top of the rudder...where the boat may need to break ice). You probably would not want to use submarine steel for this application...but that just my opinion...as a former submarine officer on a 688-class fast attack boat. It's much more susceptible to staining/rust if not properly maintained (painted/coated). These steels are necessary for their low weight to high strength ratio. They are also used for their durability under cyclical pressure loading.
The 316L Stainless Steel used on most watches is a much better material for this use-case. It's actually harder (more scratch resistant) than the Rolex Sub steel, but will not deliver the same degree of finished luster.
It’s a collectors piece. It was not my first dive watch nor even my first G.O. watch. The dial is too funky for every day.
*"...lack originality..."* *_This approach avoids risk and makes more money in the short and maybe also medium term. Only after a profitable run of conformity and predictably boring derivative designs can a manufacturer afford risky moves. How many will, at that point, be willing or even aware of it? Most success creates a habit of taking the same approach. Only a small few innovative designs become a hit._*
Allow me to put my very own nail in this one: It looks like something Orient, specifically in its Orient Star line, would design. Nothing wrong with Orient by the way. Not at all. But this watch looks a bit comical and rather cheap, and I so very much want to like it!
Are SeaQs on massive discounts in the secondary market…?
Glashutte in general you can sneak for amazing discounts. I stumbled on a PanoReserve the other day for £6k. Like with most things in life, it's all about timing 😉
I bought a GO Senator over 15 years ago, new. If I were to buy again, I would purchase second hand from a reputable source (with box/papers). GO's do not seem to hold there sticker value...though they tend to reach a point...25-30% below sticker where they settle in price on the second hand market.
I am going to guess that the "average" price of a Tudor is $4,000. Is that price considered a watch that a majority of 'watch people' wear, with zero concerns of damaging it/banging it against something? I mean, I 'get' that it's all relative, but is a $4,000 watch something you'd wear to do yard work, go hiking, fishing, washing your car?
I was under the impression that a majority of people have G-Shocks, Timex's, and whatnot for such activities.
Perhaps I am neurotic.
It's an expensive beautifully made watch but if someone wants and can afford it why not? Making the case for a BB rather than a GO is like making a case for a Seiko/Citizen/Orient or suchlike rather than a BB. Both cases are valid but don't apply to the person who could buy watches at all three levels without thinking of the expense.
Too right. I own the green SeaQ 39, and my next purchase will be a Black Bay 54.
Second 🎉
Great seeing you brother! I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this gem! 🥃
I absolutely love the SeaQ, and would own one if they added an open case back to the 39 and fixed the mismatched end links (either fully brush the bracelet or polish the center of the end link). The current mismatch with the PCLs on the bracelet but fully brushed end link is extremely poor design. Otherwise this watch is an absolute beauty! I've come so close to selling my BB58 for one of these, but these 2 issues hold me back. I'm still tempted by the gold version which has an open case back.
From the GO website, it seems they have listened to the multiple complains about the polished center links: the pictures now show all bracelets i the SeaQ line being fully brushed.
Spot on as always 🤗
Ah, a pleasure to share brother. Thank you 🥃
Looks like a Vostok.
The 42 hr power reserve stops me buying it sadly
Very good point. The 39mm lacks many innovations that the Panorama has improved upon (like no silicon balance etc) 🥃