Perhaps we could take a moment regarding this presentation with consideration of the Mark Ward intelligibility argument. What Thomas Ross asserts makes sense, fits the KJV translators to the readers, and in line with a scriptural mindset concerning formal equivalence. It suitably answers the Ward criticism and hopefully puts it to rest.
This video destroys a huge portion of Mark wards readability argument. Some one should send this to him. I'm glad I'm not the only one aware of Mark wards readability argument.
I'm not at all a KJV only person but watching your debate with Dr. White helped convince me I should at least have a KJV in my library. Both sides made intriguing points, even if I do ultimately side with Dr. White. Blessings.
Imagine if the 10 commandments didn't have Thee and thy. If the commandment was: YOU shall not kill, Critics would say that was only for Moses to obey not all people.
And yet, absolutely no one thinks this. The context obviously shows that Moses was supposed to give these commandments to the people for all to obey. Also, I think you switched it around. "thee", "thy", and "thou" are the singular form, not plural form, so actually, a critic would think that since the bible says "Thou", then it was only directed to Moses, which is obviously not the case.
My experience: I gave my two boys NIV’s to read. They didn't like it, I took them to an old poorly educated woman who worked for the Volunteers of America. She taught them from the AV and they loved it. To this day they won't use any other Bible.
You speak in a very perspicuous manner, just as perspicuous as the King James Bible. Always thorough in your research, much respect for all your hard work, thank you. God truly blesses you in your walk.
I am not KJV only. Let me say that first. However, it is my preferred translation of English bibles. I own several and just purchased a beautiful, green goatskin, Cambridge Topaz that I absolutely adore! So after starting with the KJV and subsequently using multiple English translations since, why have i returned to the KJV and use it almost exclusively for the past 3 or 4 years now? It's my favorite! I absolutely love it! Is it hard to understand? Maybe for James White i guess, but not for me. But then i haven't busied my mind with all this "higher learning" as he has. Im just a high school dropout with a ged and 0 college so i don't understand all the fancy arguments James has. Im not a fan of everyone and their uncle coming out with a new translation of the Bible every couple of years. Im not a fan of drumming down God's holy word. Im not a fan of the critical text bibles either, although I do own a couple. I guess im just not smart enough to see all these supposed problems with my KJV bibles? Let's face it. The two main reasons people want new translations. They either want to "change" certain things that they don't like in the current versions, and its profitable. They make a lot of money if their newer, more reliable, easier to understand, version catches on with the cool kids in the church world.
Perhaps we could take a moment regarding this presentation with consideration of the Mark Ward intelligibility argument. What Thomas Ross asserts makes sense, fits the KJV translators to the readers, and in line with a scriptural mindset concerning formal equivalence. It suitably answers the Ward criticism and hopefully puts it to rest.
This video destroys a huge portion of Mark wards readability argument.
Some one should send this to him.
I'm glad I'm not the only one aware of Mark wards readability argument.
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I'm not at all a KJV only person but watching your debate with Dr. White helped convince me I should at least have a KJV in my library. Both sides made intriguing points, even if I do ultimately side with Dr. White. Blessings.
Imagine if the 10 commandments didn't have Thee and thy.
If the commandment was:
YOU shall not kill,
Critics would say that was only for Moses to obey not all people.
And yet, absolutely no one thinks this. The context obviously shows that Moses was supposed to give these commandments to the people for all to obey. Also, I think you switched it around. "thee", "thy", and "thou" are the singular form, not plural form, so actually, a critic would think that since the bible says "Thou", then it was only directed to Moses, which is obviously not the case.
My experience: I gave my two boys NIV’s to read. They didn't like it, I took them to an old poorly educated woman who worked for the Volunteers of America. She taught them from the AV and they loved it. To this day they won't use any other Bible.
You speak in a very perspicuous manner, just as perspicuous as the King James Bible. Always thorough in your research, much respect for all your hard work, thank you. God truly blesses you in your walk.
PS. You looked like you were really having fun with this one! 😊
I am not KJV only. Let me say that first. However, it is my preferred translation of English bibles. I own several and just purchased a beautiful, green goatskin, Cambridge Topaz that I absolutely adore! So after starting with the KJV and subsequently using multiple English translations since, why have i returned to the KJV and use it almost exclusively for the past 3 or 4 years now? It's my favorite! I absolutely love it! Is it hard to understand? Maybe for James White i guess, but not for me. But then i haven't busied my mind with all this "higher learning" as he has. Im just a high school dropout with a ged and 0 college so i don't understand all the fancy arguments James has. Im not a fan of everyone and their uncle coming out with a new translation of the Bible every couple of years. Im not a fan of drumming down God's holy word. Im not a fan of the critical text bibles either, although I do own a couple. I guess im just not smart enough to see all these supposed problems with my KJV bibles? Let's face it. The two main reasons people want new translations. They either want to "change" certain things that they don't like in the current versions, and its profitable. They make a lot of money if their newer, more reliable, easier to understand, version catches on with the cool kids in the church world.
Replacing thou and ye with you makes it harder to understand who "you" is. The KJV is way more precise.
The best part of the king James Bible is that the author is used as a reference the Latin Vulgate
Some one needs to send this to Mark ward.