The ENDGAME RGB keyboard is here - Polycarbonate Kohaku
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Keyboard: Singa Polycarbonate Kohaku (latest info, join the discord / discord )
Board insulation: None
Plate: Aluminum
Keycaps: GMK Panels, GMK Minimal, KKB Gigachad Extension Kit
Switches: Gateron Ink Black, HMX Macchiato (factory lubed), West German Vintage MX Blacks
Stabilizers: TX AP Stabilizers
Kohaku Timelines
Kohaku V2 GB Extras after fulfillment (late January / early February, limited units and open worldwide) Kohaku V2 Red In-Stock Drop (~275 units, after fulfillment // KLC (worldwide except SEA) & SINGAKBD (SEA Only)
PC Kohaku V2 R2 In-Stock Drop (~100 - 150 units, Q1 2024)
Stinga60 (2024)
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This is the first time my keyboard made it onto one of Andy's video. Very cool!!!
I have that PC Forever with GMK Wasabi
Been waiting for a long time for you to make this video! Knowing how much you love the Kohaku, I was wondering when or even if you'd be picking up this variant!
Between the two.. I have to give the nod to Polyhaku for sure. The colors spark joy. Over time I will forget that the Aluminum Kohaku sounds better lol
would love a vid on your current favorite keebs in each form factor: 60, 65-70, 75, 100, alice/arisu. I feel like a round-up vid would be really entertaining, lots of categories within each form factor to dicuss as well, i.e. material, mounting style, etc.
i think that would be good, because i HONESTLY think i am done purchasing for personal. at this point i've made some concessions in various form factors and boards just because i have other reasons to like them
Seconding this idea!
voting for this vid to be made too
@@AndyVNguyen still waiting on this video gang
Both Fuji and the keyboard looking great 🎉
fuji is big and healthy
and unfortunately very loud, a lot of chihuahua in her lol
@@AndyVNguyen classic haha, def a cutie tho
gray gaskets is the way
hear me out.. how about rgb
I just can't let go of having an arrow cluster and 3-4 function keys. 65%-70% is the best form factor for me. Would love a kohaku. Also, imo the white gaskets do look a lot less apparent compared to the high contrast of the black gaskets!
yeah i used to not care but then i got into a position where i viewed a LOT of pdfs. and having one finger access to that made a huge difference
i think the white gaskets look a little lighter on top, but it's so bright on the bottom, whereas black gaskets blend into the bottom a bit better
cool to have the option though!
I wish you had dropped this video last week. I just picked up a PC Kage and I would've much preferred this board when it drops :(
well you could always go for it anyway. worst case if you lose the raffle for pc kohaku, you still have your pc kage!
MX browns sound so good in the poly. I highly recommend it if you're planning to build one.
With which plate? I have fully broken in mx browns I haven’t used in a while
@AndyVNguyen I have mine on Alu, and I think they sound really good. I've also heard PC plate, or other softer materials, can be awesome for Browns as well.
And I just won a polycarbonate Kohaku V2 R2 and I am so stoked. Love your review - I will have to decide whether I want to keep the polycarbonate one or try to swap it with someone for the aluminum one.
congrats! i entered and didn't win lmao. that decision is going to be based on aesthetic or sound for you!
gmk panels looks so good here
Gonna be sad to.. never take it off and use it on another build lol
Lets go Fuji 🙏 Both great boards, both look fantastic, but I prefer alu for sound. I don't really know where we go from here...
It’s the best implementation of underglow that I’ve seen yet, so it’s really hard to pick
Hey Andy, what’s the best sounding PC keyboard in your opinion? Is it the polyhaku?
There’s pc top points too like pc gaf 910 that are pretty good too
dam sold out Gave a like man
Lmao thanks for the like
@@AndyVNguyen welcome
Hi what keyboard stand do you use
how does it compare to the PC Forever in terms of sound and feel?
Feels softer than pc forever to type on due to leafspring. Sound is probably higher pitched than pc forever. I’ll be building another pc forever on stream today so we can compare. Last pc forever I did I had reallllyyy light lubed inks so they were omega loud for some reason
forget Kohaku, that PC forever is straight fire!!
Smoke pc do look good
what would you choose between PC kohaku and PC unikorn?
If only one keyboard forever, it would need to be a 65, so polyhaku. The unikorn sound is louder and more fun though
Those white gaskets. Wow.
They're definitely something
The kohaku is not for me, but I love this video!
w perspective
HMX switches are all so poppy. I have HMX Swifts in my PC Chapter 1. And even though PC is deep. It’s so cool to hear the board sound so gutsy and strong with the pop of a high pitch switch. Easily my favorite one is the HMX Garnets from Swagkeys. So so good
It’s that pole bottom out man.. drives everything . I hear they’re working on stem rail bottom out full travel switches that should end up being less long pole sounding
@@AndyVNguyen oh interesting! I’d be curious to see how they fare with their blends and tolerances. I love the pole bottom out on the full travel versions. I get the best of both worlds. But I’m def curious about a traditional mold from them too
Final Board V4
At this point it’s an annual thing hahaha
will they keep restocking them?
i'm not sure how many restocks will happen but i still see unikorn and kohaku releases. i know there's at least one more for polyhaku instock but I don't know anything about after that
I personally love deeper boards. .. praying I when this raffle 😭
I too entered the raffle.. that PlayStation combo too sick
I was kinda excited for pc haku, but I prefer my alu haku for sound I believe. From what I hear on most sound test the pc sounds noticeably thinner than the alu variant.
If sound is primary concern, alu for sure. It’s that too good
@@AndyVNguyen Have you ever tried the moontower? It sounds really freaking good and it's rgb heaven
ummm i went to the website and it comes out to 384.06 MYR. that's about $81 USD. Am i missing something?!
next run not live yet, there's like shipping costs and pcb only and other things. it's a bit confusing
@@AndyVNguyenwhen is the next run?
@fanetoooo last she told me was just early 2024, so it's probably after this next aluminum kohaku one i think. it's soon!
@@AndyVNguyen thanks, almost spent 81 bucks on a disappointed afternoon. lol🤣
I almost ordered it, but $81 price tag didn't look right to me so I didn't proceed.
Can you combine polycarb bottom with alu top
afaik no, the tolerances were changed because polycarb can't be as precise
@@AndyVNguyen thanks for the response. Sad, would have loved the RGB fish with a solid top
those see through white gaskets just look like a bandaid mod lmao, maybe a greyish color would be better to make it look less cheap
Grayish might work or it may just end up worse lol. I’m ok with sticking with black
wait so where do you purchase this keyboard?
discord.com/invite/singakbd go there for latest info
Hopefully I did everything correctly to join the next PC Kohaku raffle. Looks like it'll be sometime in March? How much does each raffle ticket cost and how many realistically are needed to even be successful?@@AndyVNguyen
raffle is free entry, just one per person
and it's really hard to win
Should have used clear gaskets man
I’m hearing talks of rainbow gaskets. Can’t stand out if it’s all the colors
/s
Do us a solid one for pc forever Andy boi 👀👀
wym solid 👀👀
@@AndyVNguyen a solid overview/review ofcourse :D
what do you mean in stock???
when the sale happens (likely raffle), the units are already made. you are not waiting for 4-6 months for it to be made. so it'll ship to you within a week or two.
Ok gotcha! Thanks.@@AndyVNguyen
So it's not in stock...sad.
These raffles are annoying :c
W vid
thanks bigben!
Is this still in stock?
They’re doing another instock raffle now or soon.. check the discord
Will the Singa drop include another Alu rerun too? Thanks for another great review - out of touch Keeb elitist
They run separately, I’d join the Singa disc for latest updates. I never know when these colors drop tbh. That last drop of purple and red was a surprise to me
Imagine winning a Singa raffle😭
it's tough.. did you go for GSK 910? I was somehow able to hit that one
@@AndyVNguyen no I joined TypeK so I'm still recovering 🤣. But Kohaku is special to me; been following since the beginning
Big chonker that is.. lol. Kohaku is super nice. I’ve been around since its ideation but wasn’t a huge fan until I heard the first produced sound test lol
Yeah was super attracted to the design at first which felt different from the Keycult lookalike at the time. The kohaku weight is just too nice. Was so disappointed the first raffle; it's probably the one I had the most probability of winning one. And then all the positive reviews dropped so I was even more disappointed lol
yeah it was def lowkey because people were like 'unikorn o ring is so good why would we want gasket'
How come this board is so hyped? I mean it sounds decent enough but i simply don't get it...
just hyped, singa makes cool stuff
not the most amazing sounding keyboard in existence but singa being dope pushes it ahead
Nah the Typ60SL is the endgame RGB keyboard 😈 Pohaku still pretty cool though, I don't think it sounds as good as the alu version though
When is it coming out ?
Should be in the next month or two
discord.com/invite/singakbd join the discord for the latest information on when the raffle is
thank you but I also thought it was in stock I never win raffles x(@@AndyVNguyen
Lol it’s a raffle.. that ships out. Can you believe we still do raffles for Gbs too? You win the chance.. to pay full price.. and then wait half a year
Only thanks to this video I just noticed my Tiger's LEDs are asymmetrical. Thanks I hate it
I’m sorry :(
How does this compare to the KBD67 Lite?
Just PE foam and tape mod the kbd67 lite and it’s perfect - these expensive keyboards are only for out of touch elitists
@@AndyVNguyenhow do I make my keyboard sound like chocolate and cute to the point where id want to eat it
Anything is edible if you try hard enough
@@AndyVNguyen just like how if u tried hard enough anything can be a-
AYO?@@kename1280
I've been sitting her for the past ten minutes trying to figure out who Elaine is 🤣
Designer/head of Singa
@@zivens.2407 Thanks!
Yeah Elaine is the designer of Singa lol sorry
When does this drop?
It’s the next drop after another aluminum one i think
Thanks! II was confused reading the comments thinking it already dropped or was dropping today or something lol@@AndyVNguyen
It’s q1 but that could technically be end of March lol. There was already one drop a few months back. This is the second one
thanks mr keyboard man :) you're the best@@AndyVNguyen
I prefer pc over aluminum don’t care much for lights though even on my pc or mouse
Soul Sold to singa😂
I have a tattoo of a unikorn on my lower back ngl
also aftermarket for any kohaku BNIB is $1400+
some def sold for $1000 and below but they do not sit, it's instantly snatched up
i'm sure the ones that are asking for $1400 are sitting
i think your best bet is to align yourself with a community and share Ws.. in my discord some people just enter and pass off wins.
@@AndyVNguyen fair fair. True they are definitely sitting at that price.
That was the price before the last GB fulfilled. People are still hoping times haven’t changed lol
facts haha@@AndyVNguyen
HI FUJI
she says hi back!
give me my function rows 😭
i need it for work 😭
I feel the struggle, it’s tkl gang for you then!
Is Fuji real
i ask myself that every day
The problem with Kohaku imo is that it ONLY sounds and feels great when it's MX blacks on alu. If it's a different switch and/or plate, it just does not hit the same and it either sounds or feels unsatisfactory
I agree, when I ran inks and sp stars it didn’t BLOW ME AWAY but is still above average imo. But the mx black on alu is so good it can keep up with the nice fuller sound of TKLs. So if it’s gonna have one trick.. make it really good
I'm running Gat Raw's on my PC Kohaku and my wife runs OG recipe bcp's on her Alu Kohaku... We tried the MX black stereotype (no thanks to you Andy :P) but it just didn't hit for us.. I guess at the end of the day as overrated as the saying goes 'different strokes for different folks' and preference is everything.
Do a burpee
That’s ableist
@@AndyVNguyenk
Silicone gaskets.
Changes the sound too much imo. Those gaskets usually lean deeper sounding
I don't care for the raffle especially at the price of about 600 usd. I don't like the fact that I gotta feel lucky to be picked to spend $600 lol
I'd rather go for the Baldr65 - their GB is running right now.
There is nothing in common with that board and this other than LEDs lol
The unit count is so low, and is a raffle. Hardly an in-stock item.
i meant in stock as in there's no GB wait. the aluminum kohaku was gb
@@AndyVNguyen I get it man, I just find raffles just as bad ^^
its a known fact the endgame keyboard does not exist
Truth
in stock board my *** lmao
in stock as in ready to ship vs. 'were gonna take your money and use it to spend 6 months making it'
ya i know but it's sold out... or is there going to be another drop? that will sell out before anyone can get to it? lol love your work@@AndyVNguyen
found the info =)
>PC Kohaku V2 R2 In-Stock Drop (~100 - 150 units, Q1 2024)
SINGAKBD Future Projects
All timelines are tentative.
PC Kohaku V2 R1 (100 units) COMPLETED
Kohaku V2 Commissions CLOSED
Kohaku V2 GB Fulfillment (November / December 2023) COMPLETED
Kohaku V2 GB Extras after fulfillment (late January / early February, limited units and open worldwide)
Kohaku V2 Red In-Stock Drop (~275 units, after fulfillment // KLC (worldwide except SEA) & SINGAKBD (SEA Only)
PC Kohaku V2 R2 In-Stock Drop (~100 - 150 units, Q1 2024)
Stinga60 (2024)
No SINGAKBD design has been retired but no immediate plans to rerun any design soon (including Unikorn)
Subject to change (last updated January 2024)
Thanks ima put that in my desc LOL I appreciate it
tbh i don't really know how a keyboard with these flaws/downsides can really be "endgame". Might be the one of the better/best rgb PC boards available right now and c'mon who doesn't love the Kohaku, but this is a very different story than "endgame"
Comments on a few of the downsides to this board - all are things that absolutely would disqualify it from being an endgame board for my collection:
Gaskets - they're all silicone, why don't they do clear/translucent gaskets?! Seems like a no-brainer on a board like this. Also something like gasket "beans" would be less visible
Frame bend - there's a reason why other keyboards have more than 4 screws. I'd much rather have a couple more screws to deal with every time than have the frame flex like that
Top/bottom board color difference - this should have been noticed in pre-production units. All they have to do is adjust the inner bezel depth a bit on either the top or bottom case
They’re poron, which isn’t silicone
Also it’s not necessarily a color difference, it’s how the mounting is designed. It’s a hidden screw design so you can’t just make the top thicker and it’ll still fit
The reality of endgame is that you like what you like and that there will never be a perfect keyboard
@@AndyVNguyen Ahhh, didn't realize they were poron, that's unfortunate I guess
You're actually SO right about endgame though. If they're not "flaws" in your eyes and you love it, then that's all you need.....I have literally been in love with my Hope75 since the moment I first laid eyes on it - to the point where I honestly don't see any flaws with it at all. Despite so many problems with the GB including less-than-perfect machining I still love mine every bit as much. It's the one that keeps ending up back on my desk when I'm done building and playing with every keyboard I've built since
no..i must stay away from keyboards..no more
Always tempting ..
This keyboard is ass you should spare yourself the trouble and give it to me
Please? 🥺👉👈
No I can’t, someone in comments said it’s designed poorly because its bezels are too thin and the pc color doesn’t match! Sorry id too ashamed to gib away
really wish the layout is a bit more unique, not this flooded 65......
Sometimes too unique ends up looking too gimmicky
P-HAKU seems like a legit name
Phaku phaku phaku
kohaku is so boring