Looking at more data, I have seen 7 Enchanted Rares in 18 booster boxes, bringing us to 39% drop rate per box, or around 1:3, 2:5 ratio. There is still a lot of variance, but it is an improved approximation.
What are your thoughts on the pull rates for the different lorcana rarities? Are you surprised by the amount of Super Rares that are available in packs?
Unfortunately this is nowhere near enough data for a good certainty. A good statistical sample size is upwards of 1200 packs or 50 boxes. Still, it is shaping up to be pretty good distribution.
@@Nivesnerdcorner I agree that this isn't enough data to have exact pull rates, especially for the Enchanted Rares. I think that it is does give us a good feel for the drop rates though. I do have updated data of 18 boxes for enchanted rares posted in a comment. Not perfect, but converging on the pull rate.
Great content - I’ve looked at 240 cards from sealed booster boxes myself. My analysis largely adds up to yours. With exception to Enchanted pull-rate. I have mine at approx 1:2 boxes. I’ll be updating mine in the next week after the wave of gen-con uploads hits YT
I think 1:3 / or 2:5 (After 18 boxes) might be closer than my original 1:4 estimate. We will see with more data and converge on a more accurate number. ;)
Well done my Friend! Good to have info! I have recently seen a similar comp video for over 345 packs and its just as similar. Enchanted is almost insanely impossible. Its not impossible but out of 345 packs zero of the top 4 chase best Enchanted. Lol! Thanks
Thanks! Enchanted are definitely very rare, I wish that we could get a more accurate estimate, but we need someone to do a mass box opening and post the results. ;)
The values in this video are pretty good approximations since they are based off of 8 boxes worth. (Except for the Enchanted Rare, which would require about 50-100 boxes worth of data...)
I've watched quite a few box opening videos so far, and seen a lot more enchanted being open. From what I've seen, enchanted cards seem to be between 1 card every 1 or 2 boxes. But I'm also aware that the data could be skewed as people post the best pulls, and may not post if they don't get one. I think we need more data on that front.
Thanks for the info. We do need more data on Enchanted Rares to get an accurate pull rate. At this point, we can say: "Less than 1 per box". I'll try watching more unboxings today and keep track. I think that the SuperRares/Legendary data is accurate enough, so I'll just track Enchanted Rares.
I have full data including what packs in what positions had what. My box had 14 Super Rares, plus 1 Foil Super Rare for a total of 15. 5 Legendary, plus 1 Foil Legendary for a total of 6. Also the box had one Enchanted (Maui).
All the printings of this set should be the same. The cost should go down when the products get to Big Box stores, and when we get further waves of product. I personnaly will wait and recommend waiting until the product goes closer to MSRP. There is a slight possibility that the product will sell out conpletely, but they committed to printing more, so I don't think it will happen.
@@GeniusYoshi Thank you a lot for sharing your opinion! I dont think it wil lsell out completely. Its like printing money by our own for Disney and Ravensburger.
@@T3ddybears Agreed, they should be able to up production. There is so much money to be made for Disney/Ravensburger. Hopefully the Second Chapter coming in November will be better stocked initially.
@@T3ddybearspeople in comments regarding this topic said that company stated that they're going to print as much as the demand is, even if last 5 years. Don't know if it's official statement tho
I remember seeing a similar statement on their twitter. That they are going to keep on printing as long as there is demand. It is a reassuring statement :)
Yeah to open 2 or cases would be a really good way to see. I bet its 2-3 Enchanted per case. Kinda like the “Case Hit” in Panini Sports Card Product Set drops. Something like that. It may be not Gauranteed a Enchanted for a “case hit” thus getting say 5 Enchanted pulls in a Single case opening and only say One in another and so on. I would think its a good way to see (Per Case) what to expect but then again Im no expert! What i have seen that is Disturbing is posts of weighable Packs. The heavier by a good bit being the enchanted. So if you have 2.23-2.27 then a 2.41 Then ??? From what i have seen every big desparency was an Enchanted pull! Thats a whole other Rabbit hole to go down and a “Neferious” unfortunate one as well! Good Luck to All!
That info about pack weighing is disturbing. It reinforces that we should only be buying packs from sources we trust, and ideally not loose packs. When boxes become more accessible to everyone, there is probably a store that will do a mass-box opening and post the rates. I wish that the companies would post the actual rates.
With 99/190 hits of SuperRares and 36/190 of Legendaries, I think that we can get a pretty good estimate on the pull rates. I wouldn't trust the percentages to be exact, but 1:2 and 1:5 should hold pretty close.
The Enchanted Rares need more data (I'm not trying to hide that). I upped the data to 18 boxes and got 7 hits, bringing it closer to 1:3box or 2:5boxes. It is a rough estimate, but I think that we can say for sure "Less than 1 per box" , "At least 1 per case" on average; which is still something.
Agreed. It is good data for Legendary and lower rarities, but not overly accurate for the Enchanted Rares. I doubled the pack count for enchanted rares and updates my estimated pull rate in the top comment. Still not perfect, but converging on it.
Looking at more data, I have seen 7 Enchanted Rares in 18 booster boxes, bringing us to 39% drop rate per box, or around 1:3, 2:5 ratio. There is still a lot of variance, but it is an improved approximation.
I got 6 boxes on the way, if not enchanted I jump in front of a car.
@@polvorin15764 Nice! Good luck on your pulls, and I hope that you get a few Enchanted Rares.
Thanks for taking the time to compile those numbers! Drop rates is always one of my favorite metrics when evaluation a TCG set. 👌
I love drop rates too. I wanted to compile the numbers for myself too ;).
What are your thoughts on the pull rates for the different lorcana rarities? Are you surprised by the amount of Super Rares that are available in packs?
Unfortunately this is nowhere near enough data for a good certainty. A good statistical sample size is upwards of 1200 packs or 50 boxes. Still, it is shaping up to be pretty good distribution.
@@Nivesnerdcorner I agree that this isn't enough data to have exact pull rates, especially for the Enchanted Rares. I think that it is does give us a good feel for the drop rates though. I do have updated data of 18 boxes for enchanted rares posted in a comment. Not perfect, but converging on the pull rate.
Great content - I’ve looked at 240 cards from sealed booster boxes myself. My analysis largely adds up to yours. With exception to Enchanted pull-rate. I have mine at approx 1:2 boxes. I’ll be updating mine in the next week after the wave of gen-con uploads hits YT
I think 1:3 / or 2:5 (After 18 boxes) might be closer than my original 1:4 estimate. We will see with more data and converge on a more accurate number. ;)
Sadly, I've opened about 9 boxes and have not found 1 Enchanted card at all.
Ouch!! That is very rough luck. I am at about 1 enchanted in 7 boxes so far myself. :(
Well done my Friend! Good to have info! I have recently seen a similar comp video for over 345 packs and its just as similar. Enchanted is almost insanely impossible. Its not impossible but out of 345 packs zero of the top 4 chase best Enchanted. Lol! Thanks
Thanks! Enchanted are definitely very rare, I wish that we could get a more accurate estimate, but we need someone to do a mass box opening and post the results. ;)
I wonder what the rate would be for trove boxes?
I would expect the rate to be the same, with a bit more variance in troves VS boxes because of track printing.
The only real way to calculate at this point is to buy a few cases and see how many of every card is in per case/box.
The values in this video are pretty good approximations since they are based off of 8 boxes worth. (Except for the Enchanted Rare, which would require about 50-100 boxes worth of data...)
I've watched quite a few box opening videos so far, and seen a lot more enchanted being open. From what I've seen, enchanted cards seem to be between 1 card every 1 or 2 boxes. But I'm also aware that the data could be skewed as people post the best pulls, and may not post if they don't get one. I think we need more data on that front.
Thanks for the info. We do need more data on Enchanted Rares to get an accurate pull rate. At this point, we can say: "Less than 1 per box". I'll try watching more unboxings today and keep track. I think that the SuperRares/Legendary data is accurate enough, so I'll just track Enchanted Rares.
How many boosters were people allowed to buy at Gen Con?
From what I can tell, max one booster box per person. They may have been able to get starter decks as well.
I have full data including what packs in what positions had what. My box had 14 Super Rares, plus 1 Foil Super Rare for a total of 15. 5 Legendary, plus 1 Foil Legendary for a total of 6. Also the box had one Enchanted (Maui).
That is a really nice box!!! Congratulations on the Enchanted Rare and thanks for the info!
Thank you for the breakdown 👍
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
I am new to collecting cards so. should i wait to get booster displays or will later printed one be different?
All the printings of this set should be the same. The cost should go down when the products get to Big Box stores, and when we get further waves of product. I personnaly will wait and recommend waiting until the product goes closer to MSRP. There is a slight possibility that the product will sell out conpletely, but they committed to printing more, so I don't think it will happen.
@@GeniusYoshi Thank you a lot for sharing your opinion!
I dont think it wil lsell out completely.
Its like printing money by our own for Disney and Ravensburger.
@@T3ddybears Agreed, they should be able to up production. There is so much money to be made for Disney/Ravensburger. Hopefully the Second Chapter coming in November will be better stocked initially.
@@T3ddybearspeople in comments regarding this topic said that company stated that they're going to print as much as the demand is, even if last 5 years. Don't know if it's official statement tho
I remember seeing a similar statement on their twitter. That they are going to keep on printing as long as there is demand. It is a reassuring statement :)
Yeah to open 2 or cases would be a really good way to see. I bet its 2-3 Enchanted per case. Kinda like the “Case Hit” in Panini Sports Card Product Set drops. Something like that. It may be not Gauranteed a Enchanted for a “case hit” thus getting say 5 Enchanted pulls in a Single case opening and only say One in another and so on. I would think its a good way to see (Per Case) what to expect but then again Im no expert! What i have seen that is Disturbing is posts of weighable Packs. The heavier by a good bit being the enchanted. So if you have 2.23-2.27 then a 2.41 Then ??? From what i have seen every big desparency was an Enchanted pull! Thats a whole other Rabbit hole to go down and a “Neferious” unfortunate one as well! Good Luck to All!
That info about pack weighing is disturbing. It reinforces that we should only be buying packs from sources we trust, and ideally not loose packs. When boxes become more accessible to everyone, there is probably a store that will do a mass-box opening and post the rates. I wish that the companies would post the actual rates.
3-4 Leg per display, you can have max 5 times the same card...
Come oooon
You get 4/5 legendaries in a display + luck on foil legendaries. I am not aware of any limits on duplicates of common/uncommon.
Good info, thank you!!
You're welcome!
thats a really small sample size especially for Enchanted Rares
With 99/190 hits of SuperRares and 36/190 of Legendaries, I think that we can get a pretty good estimate on the pull rates. I wouldn't trust the percentages to be exact, but 1:2 and 1:5 should hold pretty close.
The Enchanted Rares need more data (I'm not trying to hide that). I upped the data to 18 boxes and got 7 hits, bringing it closer to 1:3box or 2:5boxes. It is a rough estimate, but I think that we can say for sure "Less than 1 per box" , "At least 1 per case" on average; which is still something.
I hope that you still found the content of the video enjoyable and useful ;).
190 packs is not enough of data pool if something is 1/90
Agreed. It is good data for Legendary and lower rarities, but not overly accurate for the Enchanted Rares. I doubled the pack count for enchanted rares and updates my estimated pull rate in the top comment. Still not perfect, but converging on it.
@@GeniusYoshi thanks. Fun video by the way, appreciate it. I like knowing stats
I was doing the same. I only went through 4 boxes. I had 3 enchanted out of the 4.
That is promising! Maybe the rate is closer to 1:2Boxes after all. Thanks for the data.
I got 2 boosters , 2 gifts sets, and one of each starter deck on release day, was able to pull Elsa Enchanted, about to be sent off for grading
Nice! That is awesome! She is probably going to be one of the most valuable card in the set!