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not to mention he says characters are stronger then the other just because they can fight with a certain character, he really doesn't give enough reason why character A would scale higher or be stronger then character B
I'm pretty sure they were referring to fused Shinra (him, his mum and his brother) which is unexplored territory for me, so I take that with a grain of salt since that fusion is op apparently. Though, just to say, adolla burst Shinra is merely light speed. Which I still don't get why people in a 1v1 debate presume he can do on his own, when the source material says opposite.
@@Xavier-ji7bzShinra literally erased himself from existence lol. He’s pretty broken plus soul eater is apart of the fire force verse also so I don’t know of beerus can beat all of that together when shinra could give him trouble
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Yea they’re crazy saying he loses against the naruto verse. We’ve seen saitama pick up a dimensional rift like it’s nothing, and his fight with garou destroyed millions of stars millions of light years away
Garou already is solar system level and Saitama overpowered him, they destroyed stars and planets during the clash, not to mention how fast they are for Naruto/Boruto characters.
@@uffgghjhvv977kaguya and kakashi are going to be a MASSIVE problem. I don't think we have feats of Saitama hopping through specific demensions. How does Saitama deal with getting sealed also?
@daasianboi21 thats not a measurement of speed and its clear that all you need to do to time travle in fire force is simply move faster than light. Which every one in dbz can do by the sayian saga
Yea thats true, But shinrabanshoman has the ability to literally just make what every beerus throws at him into anything,. Shinra literally made a Beam of pure despair(i know its not compairable to a hakai its just an example) into an entire atmosphere.He could literally just make beerus' hakai into whatever he wanted.shinrabanshoman is literally just in creative mode.
@@ZephyR7G all you need to do to reverse time is have mass and travel at light speed, goku heavily outscales someone who had the power to stop time, and peering into the future is useless if you get a vision of you getting killed. Everything you said was useless against goku, and beerus is damn near infinitely stronger than goku...
maybe he rly cant cuz if we include soul king, prob he would have a hard time.(and prolly in anime bleach characters will get buffed as we saw with squad 0)
Gohan Beast absolutely solos OPM. Goku back in BoG almost destroyed the entire U7 macrocosm ( at least 3 universe sized realms) when fighting Beerus. Gohan is literally thousands, if not millions of times stronger than that Goku. It would be light work clearing the verse
@@timmyzor he's losing against anyone relevant in DBS. i don't why Saitama's standing in his verse is relevant when it comes to other verses. DBS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OPM
@@timmyzor > can't get through the strongest ones Why not? Even his Buu Saga version can clear OPM, on account of being galaxy level. Saitama, nor anyone in OPM, has the feats
No i mean that saitama can most likely beat most of the verse but we cant give it to him. But have you seen the manga he is literally kicking portals and stuff so idk what you on about no feats@@generaldindu5785
0:48 akira did say cell max is physically stronger than broly and broly broke existence, there is no evidence or data that shows anyone in one punch man being over multi solar system-multi galaxy while gohan is complex multiversal so unless we get new info on where the verse stands in power gohan solos no diff
Bleach has too many playing cards in their hands, there are too many hax abilities to count in, especially if you're including the Soul King who's far beyond even Yhwach himself, put all of them together against someone like Goku, I just don't see him winning, then u got ppl like Kisuke & Mayuri who could come up with preparations in case needed, just sayin, pure strength & power doesn't always get u the win
@@Archetype-Neptune genjutsu doesn't work on spirits and it's block only 3 senses vision,sound and hearing so far KS dose 5 this 3 , taste and touch there is A deffrance KS directly work on souls Just because we didn't see Goku gets hypnosis doesn't mean he can't get hypnosis
@@ImPowerAngel prove it, cuz yall are so quick to downplay on the entire bleach verse when it comes to this topic, its crazy when there's actually an argument to be made that goku is not soloing the verse, and I dont think he will
Bleach states itself that if you are on a whole another league hax don't work on you. Just like ichigo countered aizen's hax with pure strength@@74ss43
Nah, the moment they said Arthur from Fire Force could solo Beerus, I gave up hope for the rest of the video. Edit: Wanted to throw my 2 cents for the Saitama vs Narutoverse, Saitama is not only physically in another league, but he is shown to basically have his own hacks like grabbing portals and defying logic like when he broke into the Phoenix Space. He could probably counter most of the hacks that come from the Narutoverse. That being said, the takes some of the guys have in this video are astronomically wild.
@@Archetype-Neptune You misinterpreted what I said, somehow, I said he GRABS portals, not makes them. So if someone tried to Kamui him, he could probably grab the Kamui itself and push it open basically.
obito slams gojo kamui it doesn't have to to travel to gojo it just appears on him and even still sukuna showed as that infinity can be bypassed with spacial manipulation
Why does everyone assume that Mob can actually destroy a dimension? I have never taken that fight in season two to be in a physical sense because it is made clear that this was a battle within the mind. Also, if Mob did have that power, why not use that at the end of season 2? I just don't get why people scale him so high. Like am I missing something?
@@Thatfan864 The entire battle occurs in the mind of the little girl that Mogami possesses. Even after breaking the dimension of her mind, she is completely fine. There are no consequences for them doing that and it doesn't occur in the real world. A different dimension-breaking feat that is considered breaking a dimension is Gogeta vs. Broly. The reason why is that we know that it occurs in the real world and there is no debate on that, and it's supported by the overall power level of the characters. For Mob and Mogami, that is never stated or supported by their other feats. It makes no sense that in the real world, Mob has around continental scaling but then has 1 universal feat that only occurs in a mind world that had no real-world effect. It just doesn't make sense that he is that strong but struggles at the end of season 2.
@@Zenustu_Sentinal if you watched the show you’d know that in fact mogami stated everything is real and if mob died in that dimension he would’ve died in real life so that already debunks that statement and you’d also know that mogami didn’t even do anything mob was the one who broke the dimension alone and he didn’t even go ??? at the end of season2 which was the form he used to perform that feat and in the end of season 3 that same character said he was no match for mob in that state he stated that mob is the only one who can beat???
Getting close to aizen is in itself VERY dangerous considering his reiatsu is one of the highest in bleach, and with high reiatsu you can negate hax, so not only would he be able to negate their hax, his KS alone could make them just kill each other.
lol it’s the same thing in black clover mfs got word magic which basically lets you do anything. I don’t think Aizen solos black clover they got too many hacks in that verse even more so than bleach
Most dragonball charcters have hax negation just by being stronger goku is immune to mind control,poison, reality manipulation, time control base form goku is higher dimensional than sealed aizen plus how would aizen pop kyoka if he’s dead
8:50 bro shinra beating arguably the strongest god of destruction😕😕 shinra bansho has light speed beerus has infinite speed, he is stronger than all z fighters and the main fighters are all complex multiversal making beerus hyperversal at a low ball, shinra is uni+ or high universal but still it pales compared to beerus and the z fighters
@@uffgghjhvv977 low multiversal damn bro have you read the manga/watched the anime read the data books, beerus completely eclipses goku and vegeta and both are complex multiversal who they themselves surpass zamas who fused with a whole timeline and was affecting both past and future and beerus billions of time higher than that, he is above jiren who shook an empty space devoid of space/time just by walking, than broly and gogeta who cracked existence there is no where else you can put beerus at if not hyperversal and that is low balling it at the most
@@TheKnight-nc7qn he literally broke the time in his universe in banshoman form he’s literally able to control time as he wishes breaking the laws of time making it irrelevant in vs battles wiki definition this is definitely immeasurable speed
“Everything soul king got Yhwach can also do.” Yhwach got affected by KS and plot arrow, meanwhile Soul King is stated in the novels which are canon to transcend EVERYTHING. There’s no comparison between those two.
When mob thought his family was dead he stayed up for days straight and to get to question mark mob has to be enveloped in rage... Mob legit destroyed a whole parallel dimension and yall acting like shigaraki's decay is quicker than mob's reaction speed so if shigaraki touched the floor mob would just fly. Ppl slower than mob by far legit escaped shigaraki's decay when he touched the floor and yall think mob gonna lose?!?! Mob solos and its not even close
Gohan solos the OPM verse. Obito solos JJK if can get through Gojo's infinity. That's always the main obstacle for stronger characters. Mob's strong, but idk about soloing MHA. I definitely think he could though. Genos vs- Doesn't matter. Genos is an automatic L. Beerus vs Fire Force. Shinra solos DBS. Enough said. Natsu vs MHA. Natsu has too much fire power. Saitama most likely solos Naruto if he doesn't mess around too much Meliodas vs Black Clover is a really good one. I think his commandments will be a pain. But Asta might be able to cancel those. I'd give it to the Black Clover verse. Goku vs Bleach. Now this is a fun one. This is going to be controversial. CAN Goku solo Bleach? Does he have the strentgh and speed? Yes, 100%, Absolutely. BUT! What is Goku's biggest weakness? He loves to mess around in fights. I think Bleach has too many hax that can bite him in the ass. I think of Yhwach's hax, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu. Goku would also play with his food since Aizen has the Hogyoku that can help him surpass Goku. Shinji can mess with his perception, you got Squad Zero. Goku isn't immune to the sun. Aizen and Kisuke's intelligence. All of this and more at the same time. I think it would be a little too much for Goku. Isshiki vs One Piece. When soloing One Piece, there's a few things you need to worry about. Logias, Sugar's fruit. stuff like that. There are some dangerous hax due to Devil Fruits. I think he'd be the strongest character, but soloing might be a bit much. Kakashi vs HxH. Again, Kakashi can do it, just watch for the hax. But Kakashi is careful and experienced. I'd say he can do it. Escanor vs Dragonball. I love Escanor, but...what? Aizen vs Black Clover. The first prerequisite to beating Aizen is, "Can you get through Kyoka Suigetsu" For Black Clover, the answer is...maybe? Asta and everyone from Yami's homeland know something called Ki which is like a 6th sense that Aizen may not be able to manipulate. I'm not a verse equalization guy so I wouldn't say anti-magic = anti-reiatsu. Even if Ki does work, Aizen is too strong and too fast.
Sinra cant solo the DBS verse. a god of destruction can just ask the super dragon to grant a wish that transcends time and all things. Super Shenron is enough
idts goku can solo bleach verse cuz if we include soul king.The soul king is prob stronger than the whole bleach verse. We can see how lil bit of soul king power made ywatch that strong. Also if everyone is in prime state , characters like ukitake might be without there curse as we can see in hell arc one shot. But idk it will prob be a close fight.Also if we see the theories, when aizen tanked the ichigo final shot, he was about to power up again but cuz of urahara he got sealed, aizen would hv been even stronger and would have surpassed tybw aizen. So yeah prolly bleach will take this W. Btw genos is pretty good at fighting. It is just that he always gets way too strong opponents than himself.
Deku can also take on Mob mid dif. I mean Deku has has done some incredible feats and has surpassed All might. In addition to also having multiple quirks he inherited that he can use in conjunction, he’s kinda broken
Mob is significantly stronger still and is a direct counter to most of the mha verse since he can literally drain them and can attack and defend in the same time deku wouldn’t even be the main problem for mob it’d be star and stripe😂
nah, the whole argument of obito nobody being able to touch obito is just trash. For obito to be able to win, he will most likely need to touch the opponent, when doing it he need to materialize his body. The only thing that can make him win is genjutsu, which is very difficul to especulate, since we dont how chakra and CE would interact in dis matter, and Obito isnt even known for genjutsu abilities, i think is possible for him to touch gojo with his kamui abilities but would be difficult I think Sukuna dimensional cut can touch since it's dimensional,
The problem that would speak completely against Bleach is. Kudo literally made a unspoken rule Reiatsu >>>>. You have 100x more Reiatsu against your Oponent, his hacks wont matter. Thats why I actually see Goku win if we do KI = Reiatsu
@@yashghanekar1424 but these guy compared a platery feat with universal feat and just ignored it by saying goku was also these that's why it was happing lol what
Could Gohan solo the OPM verse, absolutely. Goku from battle of God already destroyed three infinities and space-times by mistake and beast Gohan is way beyond that. Not only that, saiyan growth is actually crazy, in the Battle of Gods Goku in ssj couldnt deal with Beerus Sphere, a couple seconds later BASE and TIRED Goku was able to destroy, so in a time frame of a couple of seconds Goku got more than 60 times stronger and Gohan has more potential than this.
Goku can solo the verse of bleach but the hacks that bleach verse have is insane so there's no chance goku winning against bleach verse but if he don't play around he have a chnce
saitama galaxy level(high balled)[current strongest OPM character] base goku low multiversal(low balled) in the 2nd arc of super yeah, now we are talking about post T.O.P characters yeah
@Acnologia120 the entire Naruto verse is to much. If we assume genjutsu works then it's over. plus the black flames that can't go out. Who can solo that
@Acnologia120 so it comes down to which move works first. For me personally, I think genjutsu lands first cuz it's just eye contact but I understand your point. I know characters like in DBZ can wipe out planets but Sasuke can jump to other dimensions and carry a few with him. With Naruto the, tailed beasts and his own chakra he can probably transport everyone if he borrowed some so it won't be that easy.
@Acnologia120 Izanami does not work like other illusions. The only way out is acceptance so your character thinks he/she is out but their not. So if the power of breaking out of any illusions counts then the ability of Izanami counts as well
@@vinsonevans1402Gang do you really see The strongest version of Superman or Darksied or Doomsday getting caught in a genjutsu?Keep in mind Darksied is immune to most things and Doomsday infinitely adapts to things
IMO the reason that goku cannot solo the bleach verse is due to characters like yhwach,ichibe,yamamoto,aizen and others. Debatebly goku might be faster than most of the characters but they have the teamwork between gotei 13 captains, yhwach can swamp timelines until he can beat goku,ichibe's ichimonji is gonna be a problem and if goku looks in aizen's direction he will fall under perfect hyponisis, aizen before tybw was already a 4D+ being so the hax cancellization won't work. Not only that some character can cut,burn or freeze concepts which is insanely broken. Goku had the power but would probably play around too much. And that is not even including characters and abilities like azashiro,geraradvalkarie,gremmy's visionery,askin's doses,lile barro's intangebility and soo much more.
I know that yall aren’t power scalers and its a lil biased but i just got to clear up a two things. Shinrabanshoman solos the dragonball verse and ishiki solos the one piece verse if you want me to explain why please comment about it and I’ll explain
@@Nitrogenic wasn't really talking about you unless u were in the video. And maybe they are powerscalers but it was a lil biased. also it kinda felt a lil toxic so my bad either way just some things that they said, and the matchups they did were a lil obvious and a lil stupid
Imma just put my opinions on who beats what verse, gohan solos the opm verse (opm fans can cry), mob is soloing the mha verse, natsu is soloing the mha verse, saitama is soloing the naruto verse, goku is soloing the bleach verse, kakashi solos the hxh verse (unless alluka does his thing with the wishes), Aizen is soloing the Bc verse (dont know enough about the manga for bc so only going off the anime). Some of the takes in this video were abysmal but still fun to watch.
11:45 Well the narutoverse eradicate saitama with no difficulty. Saitama doesn't even has feats of tanked an attack that can eradicate you from existence like Naruto who tanked Toneri attack that split the moon and can eradicate you from existence with your soul and also the TSO, ETSO. For the limbos clones saitama can't see that shit so he would gets clapped by this. Also infinite Tsukiyomi what saitama gonna do ?? Kaguya is Multi Solar systems with ETSO she can destroy her 6 dimensions with stars, planets and moons in it. And Juubidara, teen Naruto so6p are almost relative to her same with teen rinnegan Sasuke. Bringing the Borutoverse is too much for Saitama and don't Bringing Shibai 🗿. *Eida omnipotent charm* is enough for the opmverse. Especially when Boruto is star level and multi solar system in base form. And Saitama best feats cap at multi solar systems. And Black cloververse slams Meliodas with negs diff they has too much hax. And Goku speedblitz solo the bleachverse with no low diff. Bleachverse is too much overrated. Isshiki solo the one pieceverse with no difficulty
@@mrfrogtrytospeak6120 Your wrong. after Blast directs the energy coming out of Saitama's fist in a different direction, a void appears in space. It is impossible for only stars to exist in a vacuum of this size. When we look into space, not every light source we see is a star. If only a few stars had disappeared, it would be impossible for such a large void to exist. The impact of Saitama's fist hitting objects millions of light-years away in a matter of seconds indicates that Saitama has the power to destroy hundreds of galaxies and even the universe in which he lives, faster than the speed of light. The closest star to our earth after the Sun is 4.3 light years away. Considering that the impact of Saitama's fist destroyed objects millions of light-years away in a matter of seconds, it would be unreasonable to deny that Saitama's serious fist destroyed hundreds of galaxies. If we calculate not only logically but also mathematically, it turns out that Saitama's serious punches are at the multi-galactic tier.
11:28 these are the conversations that confuse me… some say Siatama can beat Goku. Then the same people say Saitama can’t solo the Naruto verse?? How?!
Here is a thing with Beerus vs Shinra, Beerus is a bad match up for Shinra. If it was Goku vs Shinra, Shinra could go to the past and kill Goku as a baby BUT, Beerus is just too old for Shinra to travel that far back
Somebody explain what hax Genos would lose to in csm. I can only see that fear devil, the control devil, or the death devil making him put forth some effort. The same dude who could keep up with and match the power of a person that could level multiple continents instantly. Ok you can't beat hax with jus power but still o gotta know
The Gun Devil took out like an entire country in a single blast. There is the infinity devil that would trap him forever. Those are the ones I remember that would pose a threat.
in the Manga the Falling Devil. literally was able to casually control the gravity of the earth for fun, and he is fodder to the Death Devil and Darkness Devil, says a lot about the hax in CSM
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Rob let me know the next time you are doing this video because the DB downplay especially Gohan and Beerus is insane
Bro saitama is solo naruto and sasuke like come on bor
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Can we just talk about how much robs editing stepped up?
Indeed. His thumbnails are creative as well
Bro watched 2 minutes of the video
@@hajileknochi7086 i watch all of robs videos to the end?
Fax
He's starting to turn into "watch mojo"
That one dude lost all his credibility the moment he said that Beerus is not Universal... 🤡🤡🤡
Bro brought a planetary fodder against beerus that does that with a tap of his finger nail😭
The disrespect shown to Goku & Isshiki is crazy
Im sayin bruh 💀
not to mention he says characters are stronger then the other just because they can fight with a certain character, he really doesn't give enough reason why character A would scale higher or be stronger then character B
Not really goku does kinda lose against the bleach verse
@@FuriousFizzyPophe doesn't, he speedblitz + solo the verse no diff
@@mrfrogtrytospeak6120 He loses to aizens kyoka shuigetsu and yhwach. Sorry bout it you can cope harder if you want it won’t bother me.
The Beerus disrespect was absolutely disgusting. "Arthur is enough" my ass.
yeah aurther being planetary aint doing anything against beerus
I know right.
I don't know how fast Shinra is, but I know that that speed don't mean jack shit when it comes to Beerus' speed, power and hax
I'm pretty sure they were referring to fused Shinra (him, his mum and his brother) which is unexplored territory for me, so I take that with a grain of salt since that fusion is op apparently.
Though, just to say, adolla burst Shinra is merely light speed. Which I still don't get why people in a 1v1 debate presume he can do on his own, when the source material says opposite.
@@Xavier-ji7bzShinra literally erased himself from existence lol. He’s pretty broken plus soul eater is apart of the fire force verse also so I don’t know of beerus can beat all of that together when shinra could give him trouble
No way someone said Beerus is planetary at max 💀
🙏😂
Everyday I wonder if some of these people are real
@@ImPowerAngel unfortunately as an og member of the Discord there will always be debating hooligans
WAIT ARE YOU POWER? 😢
@@Nitrogenic where do you know me from? Cause I might be who you're thinking 💀
@@ImPowerAngel Power was literally in the video there's only 1 and your pfp looks like him Im ngl
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Saitama not clearing naruto verse has to be a joke or bias 💀
Your pfp say everything
Then he def not clearing goku
He doesn't clear it
Same with gohan and goku clearing
Because the verse has a lot of hax that saitama doesn't have the answer to
The Saitama slander in this video is absolutely outrageous bro 💀
Fr 💀
Yea they’re crazy saying he loses against the naruto verse. We’ve seen saitama pick up a dimensional rift like it’s nothing, and his fight with garou destroyed millions of stars millions of light years away
Garou already is solar system level and Saitama overpowered him, they destroyed stars and planets during the clash, not to mention how fast they are for Naruto/Boruto characters.
@@uffgghjhvv977kaguya and kakashi are going to be a MASSIVE problem. I don't think we have feats of Saitama hopping through specific demensions. How does Saitama deal with getting sealed also?
@@uffgghjhvv977 Litteraly if Daemon is just touching someone on his team then how does Saitama beat him he could literally just reflect any attack
They all forgetting Beerus could just destroy the universe 💀
bro shinrabanshoman is literally fast enough to reverse time, stop time and look into the future, his speed is of omnisciency
@@ZephyR7Gthat’s not a speed tier
@daasianboi21 thats not a measurement of speed and its clear that all you need to do to time travle in fire force is simply move faster than light. Which every one in dbz can do by the sayian saga
Yea thats true, But shinrabanshoman has the ability to literally just make what every beerus throws at him into anything,. Shinra literally made a Beam of pure despair(i know its not compairable to a hakai its just an example) into an entire atmosphere.He could literally just make beerus' hakai into whatever he wanted.shinrabanshoman is literally just in creative mode.
@@ZephyR7G all you need to do to reverse time is have mass and travel at light speed, goku heavily outscales someone who had the power to stop time, and peering into the future is useless if you get a vision of you getting killed. Everything you said was useless against goku, and beerus is damn near infinitely stronger than goku...
Goku not clearing the bleach verse has got to be a joke or bias 💀
Fr bleach community became worse
Did you read bleach? The amount of hax is unimaginable.
I mean Yhwach ca change the past or future that’s what I’ve heard
maybe he rly cant cuz if we include soul king, prob he would have a hard time.(and prolly in anime bleach characters will get buffed as we saw with squad 0)
@@Ayaanra30 he can't change the past Lmao
Bro brought up a planetary feat after saying Arthur beats beerus 😭😭😭
goku vs bleach is a stomp on the verse it's stated if you are significantly stronger than someone then you can nullify their hax in both verse
exactly
No. It doesn't work like that in Bleach.
It's not your strength but how much reiatsu you have.
There's a difference.
I think they talking about escanor vs the original dragonball when goku was a kid. It’s actually debatable
@@revenantronin8377 using verse equalization retsu and ki would affect each other the same way
@jackmakila3776 even without verse equalization ki is stated as spiritual energy so it would still work like that
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Thank you bro 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Gohan Beast absolutely solos OPM. Goku back in BoG almost destroyed the entire U7 macrocosm ( at least 3 universe sized realms) when fighting Beerus. Gohan is literally thousands, if not millions of times stronger than that Goku. It would be light work clearing the verse
well you gotta think about it the fact that saitama isnt supposed to lose... if it was the final fight where he finally loses then maybe
@@timmyzor he's losing against anyone relevant in DBS.
i don't why Saitama's standing in his verse is relevant when it comes to other verses. DBS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>OPM
ill give it to you he currently probably cant beat the strongest ones but he will easily go through atleast half of the verse@@generaldindu5785
@@timmyzor
> can't get through the strongest ones
Why not? Even his Buu Saga version can clear OPM, on account of being galaxy level. Saitama, nor anyone in OPM, has the feats
No i mean that saitama can most likely beat most of the verse but we cant give it to him. But have you seen the manga he is literally kicking portals and stuff so idk what you on about no feats@@generaldindu5785
Saitama losing to the Naruto verse is wild
facts
It's not
@@Archetype-NeptuneIt is
Factual, i refuse to believe saitama cant solo naruto
I mean with tge hax it’s not a crazy take imo and saitama does work like goku who could just bypass it with raw strength
Rob content is so underrated but once you finally watch him it’s like finding the one piece, just straight treasure 🏆
0:48 akira did say cell max is physically stronger than broly and broly broke existence, there is no evidence or data that shows anyone in one punch man being over multi solar system-multi galaxy while gohan is complex multiversal so unless we get new info on where the verse stands in power gohan solos no diff
Plus Gohan even before beast Could solo The OPM verse
@@ImPowerAngel true
Thank u someone said it. Toriyama statements most of the time don’t make sense but this does
@@JetBlazed you are welcome
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Love the editing Rob ❤
Fire vid, editing is insane
Always good when people can have arguments like this without screaming their heads off.
If we're using verse equalization for aizen vs bc verse magna's soul chain is a massive problem
Bleach has too many playing cards in their hands, there are too many hax abilities to count in, especially if you're including the Soul King who's far beyond even Yhwach himself, put all of them together against someone like Goku, I just don't see him winning, then u got ppl like Kisuke & Mayuri who could come up with preparations in case needed, just sayin, pure strength & power doesn't always get u the win
None of the Hax abilities can even work on Goku cause he's vastly stronger
@@ImPowerAngelKS and almighty will work definitely
@@starbustergaming5651 it's like saying Itachi's illusions would work on Rimuru see how that sounds
@@Archetype-Neptune genjutsu doesn't work on spirits and it's block only 3 senses vision,sound and hearing so far
KS dose 5 this 3 , taste and touch there is
A deffrance KS directly work on souls
Just because we didn't see Goku gets hypnosis doesn't mean he can't get hypnosis
@@ImPowerAngel prove it, cuz yall are so quick to downplay on the entire bleach verse when it comes to this topic, its crazy when there's actually an argument to be made that goku is not soloing the verse, and I dont think he will
bro people be forgetting Takaba the GOAT's ability in JJK ain't no way Obito countering that!
I liked this Video. Please do more of those. Very interesting
Goku demolished the bleach verse its not even a debate
Sure buddy
I don’t think you understand the amount of Bullshit hax Goku is up against in that matchup that he simply can’t counter
Bleach states itself that if you are on a whole another league hax don't work on you.
Just like ichigo countered aizen's hax with pure strength@@74ss43
Yeah Goku solos the verse terribly
@@74ss43he can
Inconsistency is crazy within this video, love the video idea though. Fun stuff
Nah, the moment they said Arthur from Fire Force could solo Beerus, I gave up hope for the rest of the video.
Edit: Wanted to throw my 2 cents for the Saitama vs Narutoverse, Saitama is not only physically in another league, but he is shown to basically have his own hacks like grabbing portals and defying logic like when he broke into the Phoenix Space. He could probably counter most of the hacks that come from the Narutoverse. That being said, the takes some of the guys have in this video are astronomically wild.
I believe that was said as a joke.
Portals aren't new to Naruto verse
Saitama gets Outhaxed ngl
@@Archetype-Neptuneno he doesn’t 💀 Saitama is eating up any hax that’s bein thrown at him in the naruto verse
@@DeadHaremGuy I sure hope it was
@@Archetype-Neptune You misinterpreted what I said, somehow, I said he GRABS portals, not makes them. So if someone tried to Kamui him, he could probably grab the Kamui itself and push it open basically.
I might have to fight your discord server😂
Some of these takes are crazy💀
i need it to be open again just so I can ask what they were smoking
saitama solos the naruto verse.
Bro they out haxe him
@@cheiku973 nah. it’s pointless to even argue
Except he doesn't
Literally how ?@@cheiku973
@@thaoriginalGoku>the bleach verse
love the new editing style
obito slams gojo kamui it doesn't have to to travel to gojo it just appears on him and even still sukuna showed as that infinity can be bypassed with spacial manipulation
Obito has to be quick enough to avoid gojo domain and he’s def not doing that
Kakashi's Kamui does that. Not Obito. And Obito cannot manipulate space.
Also, he isn't going to think fast enough to escape unlimited void
Technically Obito can do the sukuna and shoot at attack not directly at gojo like one of those erasure orbs and he dies same for sukuna
@@JetBlazed The truth seeker orbs cannot bypass infinity. And like I said, one domain expansion should kill Obito
@@Problemsolver434 would it work if Obito is phasing through reality?
Why does everyone assume that Mob can actually destroy a dimension?
I have never taken that fight in season two to be in a physical sense because it is made clear that this was a battle within the mind. Also, if Mob did have that power, why not use that at the end of season 2?
I just don't get why people scale him so high. Like am I missing something?
He literally did because it’s mogamis world it’s like he’s trapped in it but like everything is real if mob dies in there he dies in real life too
@@Thatfan864
The entire battle occurs in the mind of the little girl that Mogami possesses. Even after breaking the dimension of her mind, she is completely fine. There are no consequences for them doing that and it doesn't occur in the real world. A different dimension-breaking feat that is considered breaking a dimension is Gogeta vs. Broly. The reason why is that we know that it occurs in the real world and there is no debate on that, and it's supported by the overall power level of the characters.
For Mob and Mogami, that is never stated or supported by their other feats. It makes no sense that in the real world, Mob has around continental scaling but then has 1 universal feat that only occurs in a mind world that had no real-world effect. It just doesn't make sense that he is that strong but struggles at the end of season 2.
@@Zenustu_Sentinal if you watched the show you’d know that in fact mogami stated everything is real and if mob died in that dimension he would’ve died in real life so that already debunks that statement and you’d also know that mogami didn’t even do anything mob was the one who broke the dimension alone and he didn’t even go ??? at the end of season2 which was the form he used to perform that feat and in the end of season 3 that same character said he was no match for mob in that state he stated that mob is the only one who can beat???
Glad to be the one to clarify that My Hero Academia is very much a Natsu victim. Very fun event in the Discord 🔥
Im surprised Bleach Won
I mean Bleach got the Hax
But Goku is like Million times faster
That one was a lil iffy imo. It was kinda convincing but lets be honest goku clears 💀
@@Coodahluvof course
Bruh Goku can't solo bleach verse bro ywatch is stronger than Goku bruh
You buggin lil bro, ywach lost to Aizen and ichigo. Goku mops him 😂😂
@@teeko6688 yhwach got the Hax to take Goku down but power wise
Goku neggs
Bro really tried to argue planet level beerus 😂😂😂
The mob disrespect it outrageous, it's almost like they didn't watch the latest season
Yo I remember being in the VC during thos video. It was fun
Getting close to aizen is in itself VERY dangerous considering his reiatsu is one of the highest in bleach, and with high reiatsu you can negate hax, so not only would he be able to negate their hax, his KS alone could make them just kill each other.
lol it’s the same thing in black clover mfs got word magic which basically lets you do anything. I don’t think Aizen solos black clover they got too many hacks in that verse even more so than bleach
@@Stunt877 like I said, aizen could just negate the hax via reiatsu.
@@josephaliyu1443so would asta's anti magic just negate his riatsu I'm assuming your using verse equalization
Most dragonball charcters have hax negation just by being stronger goku is immune to mind control,poison, reality manipulation, time control base form goku is higher dimensional than sealed aizen plus how would aizen pop kyoka if he’s dead
@@JetBlazed I never mentioned Goku in anything I was saying, this is Aizen vs BC verse
caring anitube right now! Your the goat rob.
Rob needs some unbiased fans bc beerus slams ff
18:09 ROB YOU CUT OUT MY WHOLE SEGMENT!!!
I wonder who's that unknown debater that helped MHA defeat Mob 😂 W video Rob loved another Discord inclusion after so long
Next season you’ll see her Stars and Stripe look out
Plus Mob still not winning Miriyo could just go under ground with some power block tech from Yoayoruzu an put it on mobs feet
mha slams mob no diff, deku alone negs him
@@Songoku-dm4nd you don't get it I was in the video arguing on MHA's side but got cut
@@tavonknight398 ^
Great Video! Keep making content G!
8:50 bro shinra beating arguably the strongest god of destruction😕😕 shinra bansho has light speed beerus has infinite speed, he is stronger than all z fighters and the main fighters are all complex multiversal making beerus hyperversal at a low ball, shinra is uni+ or high universal but still it pales compared to beerus and the z fighters
Beerus is not hyperversal, lol.
His low-multiversal same for Shinra but Shinra slams with more haxes
Shinra also has immeasurable speed
@@Thatfan864 he does not, immeasurable speed is going so fast that you can arrive before you ever left, shinra has never shown anything like that
@@uffgghjhvv977 low multiversal damn bro have you read the manga/watched the anime read the data books, beerus completely eclipses goku and vegeta and both are complex multiversal who they themselves surpass zamas who fused with a whole timeline and was affecting both past and future and beerus billions of time higher than that, he is above jiren who shook an empty space devoid of space/time just by walking, than broly and gogeta who cracked existence there is no where else you can put beerus at if not hyperversal and that is low balling it at the most
@@TheKnight-nc7qn he literally broke the time in his universe in banshoman form he’s literally able to control time as he wishes breaking the laws of time making it irrelevant in vs battles wiki definition this is definitely immeasurable speed
love the 100 anime fans videos
“Everything soul king got Yhwach can also do.” Yhwach got affected by KS and plot arrow, meanwhile Soul King is stated in the novels which are canon to transcend EVERYTHING. There’s no comparison between those two.
I hate when people say Goku's and Beerus feat was combined.
When an infinite universe divided by 2 is still infinity tho
Facts.
Ishiki slams one piece and it's not even close 💀💀
For real
Obito we solo mid diff, kamui can be used offensively, as kakashi used it on deidara, it is said to RIP SPACE
Shinra and doing nothing against beerus who brought up this debate
When mob thought his family was dead he stayed up for days straight and to get to question mark mob has to be enveloped in rage... Mob legit destroyed a whole parallel dimension and yall acting like shigaraki's decay is quicker than mob's reaction speed so if shigaraki touched the floor mob would just fly. Ppl slower than mob by far legit escaped shigaraki's decay when he touched the floor and yall think mob gonna lose?!?! Mob solos and its not even close
Saitama lowkey stomps naruto vs 💀
Saitama literally went back in time under a minute
Yami cut through the dream world because he had a technique that cuts space, you can't just overpower it.
many people can avoided
@user-vm7qs6mm3c yes but this was just to clear up the misconception that you can break through it with pure strength.
@@slothbroth780 does that mean he could beat beerus or whis ?
0:49 that man is pushing 30s 💀
Gohan solos the OPM verse.
Obito solos JJK if can get through Gojo's infinity. That's always the main obstacle for stronger characters.
Mob's strong, but idk about soloing MHA. I definitely think he could though.
Genos vs- Doesn't matter. Genos is an automatic L.
Beerus vs Fire Force. Shinra solos DBS. Enough said.
Natsu vs MHA. Natsu has too much fire power.
Saitama most likely solos Naruto if he doesn't mess around too much
Meliodas vs Black Clover is a really good one. I think his commandments will be a pain. But Asta might be able to cancel those. I'd give it to the Black Clover verse.
Goku vs Bleach. Now this is a fun one. This is going to be controversial. CAN Goku solo Bleach? Does he have the strentgh and speed? Yes, 100%, Absolutely. BUT! What is Goku's biggest weakness? He loves to mess around in fights. I think Bleach has too many hax that can bite him in the ass. I think of Yhwach's hax, Aizen's Kyoka Suigetsu. Goku would also play with his food since Aizen has the Hogyoku that can help him surpass Goku. Shinji can mess with his perception, you got Squad Zero. Goku isn't immune to the sun. Aizen and Kisuke's intelligence. All of this and more at the same time. I think it would be a little too much for Goku.
Isshiki vs One Piece. When soloing One Piece, there's a few things you need to worry about. Logias, Sugar's fruit. stuff like that. There are some dangerous hax due to Devil Fruits. I think he'd be the strongest character, but soloing might be a bit much.
Kakashi vs HxH. Again, Kakashi can do it, just watch for the hax. But Kakashi is careful and experienced. I'd say he can do it.
Escanor vs Dragonball. I love Escanor, but...what?
Aizen vs Black Clover. The first prerequisite to beating Aizen is, "Can you get through Kyoka Suigetsu" For Black Clover, the answer is...maybe? Asta and everyone from Yami's homeland know something called Ki which is like a 6th sense that Aizen may not be able to manipulate. I'm not a verse equalization guy so I wouldn't say anti-magic = anti-reiatsu. Even if Ki does work, Aizen is too strong and too fast.
Sinra cant solo the DBS verse. a god of destruction can just ask the super dragon to grant a wish that transcends time and all things.
Super Shenron is enough
idts goku can solo bleach verse cuz if we include soul king.The soul king is prob stronger than the whole bleach verse. We can see how lil bit of soul king power made ywatch that strong. Also if everyone is in prime state , characters like ukitake might be without there curse as we can see in hell arc one shot. But idk it will prob be a close fight.Also if we see the theories, when aizen tanked the ichigo final shot, he was about to power up again but cuz of urahara he got sealed, aizen would hv been even stronger and would have surpassed tybw aizen. So yeah prolly bleach will take this W. Btw genos is pretty good at fighting. It is just that he always gets way too strong opponents than himself.
genos is multi continental to moon buster at best, I would assume@@lbozo5317
This is nothing but fax but since you kinda was on the fence about it obito can get through gojos infinity
@@ejjtheartistim pretty sure shinrabanshoman can just rewrite reality sooooooooo ye
That Power guy got me scratching my head on that one Saitama part
Aizen, let’s gooo!!!
I think they talking about escanor vs the original dragonball when goku was a kid. It’s actually debatable
Deku can also take on Mob mid dif. I mean Deku has has done some incredible feats and has surpassed All might. In addition to also having multiple quirks he inherited that he can use in conjunction, he’s kinda broken
Can deku blow up a planet or dimension similar to a planet like mob can? Look up mob vs mogami there is nothing in my hero that can compare to that
mob is stronger than the verse
Mob is significantly stronger still and is a direct counter to most of the mha verse since he can literally drain them and can attack and defend in the same time deku wouldn’t even be the main problem for mob it’d be star and stripe😂
These my hero fans 💀🤦🏽♂️
i hate the type of mf that says that instant transmission is a speed feat and not literally just a teleport
Both Saitama and Goku slams both verses
Goku fans 🤝 Saitama fans uniting to 👊💥 Bleach and Naruto verses
@@4nnd711 yes sirr
saitama losing to naruto verse and goku losing to bleach verse are some crazy takes fr@@4nnd711
nah, the whole argument of obito nobody being able to touch obito is just trash.
For obito to be able to win, he will most likely need to touch the opponent, when doing it he need to materialize his body. The only thing that can make him win is genjutsu, which is very difficul to especulate, since we dont how chakra and CE would interact in dis matter, and Obito isnt even known for genjutsu abilities, i think is possible for him to touch gojo with his kamui abilities but would be difficult
I think Sukuna dimensional cut can touch since it's dimensional,
Aizen will be watching the black clover verse destroy itself.
Ummm no that’s not how it works black clover has the hacks to negate that also.
@Stunt877 how will they know tho. They'll think it's all real to begin with. If everyone looks at Aizen it's over.
@@Stunt877nah
They ain't doing shit to Aizen
The problem that would speak completely against Bleach is. Kudo literally made a unspoken rule Reiatsu >>>>. You have 100x more Reiatsu against your Oponent, his hacks wont matter. Thats why I actually see Goku win if we do KI = Reiatsu
Disrespect to beerus 😅
We haven’t even seen beerus’s full potential and they just assumed shinra would win alone 💀
he would as much as like beerus, Shina Banshoman can solo the verse, they made him to OP@@Coodahluv
@@yashghanekar1424 but these guy compared a platery feat with universal feat and just ignored it by saying goku was also these that's why it was happing lol what
what@@tempestrexlive6664
Reminder that time hax doesn't work against goku since it would only create a separate timeline and not affect the goku ywatch is fighting
Isshiki disrespect is CRAAAAZY
W Video Fr!
Could Gohan solo the OPM verse, absolutely. Goku from battle of God already destroyed three infinities and space-times by mistake and beast Gohan is way beyond that.
Not only that, saiyan growth is actually crazy, in the Battle of Gods Goku in ssj couldnt deal with Beerus Sphere, a couple seconds later BASE and TIRED Goku was able to destroy, so in a time frame of a couple of seconds Goku got more than 60 times stronger and Gohan has more potential than this.
Yeah when you put feats into account, the Goku vs. Saitama debate suddenly becomes very stupid.
Mob has been getting all the disrespect lately. All I’m saying is nobody in my hero academia is getting through mobs psychic shields
Poor MHA getting put up against Natsu.
And mob. He literally blew up an entire dimension
Shigaraki wrecked like half a city
1:17 no way this is bias
Yahoo
Goku can solo the verse of bleach but the hacks that bleach verse have is insane so there's no chance goku winning against bleach verse but if he don't play around he have a chnce
saitama galaxy level(high balled)[current strongest OPM character]
base goku low multiversal(low balled) in the 2nd arc of super
yeah, now we are talking about post T.O.P characters yeah
I don't think anyone can solo Naruto
@Acnologia120 the entire Naruto verse is to much. If we assume genjutsu works then it's over. plus the black flames that can't go out. Who can solo that
@Acnologia120 so it comes down to which move works first. For me personally, I think genjutsu lands first cuz it's just eye contact but I understand your point. I know characters like in DBZ can wipe out planets but Sasuke can jump to other dimensions and carry a few with him. With Naruto the, tailed beasts and his own chakra he can probably transport everyone if he borrowed some so it won't be that easy.
@Acnologia120 Izanami does not work like other illusions. The only way out is acceptance so your character thinks he/she is out but their not. So if the power of breaking out of any illusions counts then the ability of Izanami counts as well
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@@vinsonevans1402Gang do you really see The strongest version of Superman or Darksied or Doomsday getting caught in a genjutsu?Keep in mind Darksied is immune to most things and Doomsday infinitely adapts to things
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IMO the reason that goku cannot solo the bleach verse is due to characters like yhwach,ichibe,yamamoto,aizen and others. Debatebly goku might be faster than most of the characters but they have the teamwork between gotei 13 captains, yhwach can swamp timelines until he can beat goku,ichibe's ichimonji is gonna be a problem and if goku looks in aizen's direction he will fall under perfect hyponisis, aizen before tybw was already a 4D+ being so the hax cancellization won't work. Not only that some character can cut,burn or freeze concepts which is insanely broken. Goku had the power but would probably play around too much. And that is not even including characters and abilities like azashiro,geraradvalkarie,gremmy's visionery,askin's doses,lile barro's intangebility and soo much more.
W vid rob but I don’t think half of these people know how to scale
Most of these matches are one sided tbh but great video ❤
this mf yuval noah smoking some pack when he said beerus is not universal, bro already got me heated when he said shigaraki can beat mob lmao
I know that yall aren’t power scalers and its a lil biased but i just got to clear up a two things. Shinrabanshoman solos the dragonball verse and ishiki solos the one piece verse if you want me to explain why please comment about it and I’ll explain
Some of us are though?????? Especially the main ones talking in the video lmao
True some of them just be picking favs like who in the one punch man verse is touching adult mystic gohan let alone beast form
@@Nitrogenicyall are trash tho
i agree with you
@@Nitrogenic wasn't really talking about you unless u were in the video. And maybe they are powerscalers but it was a lil biased. also it kinda felt a lil toxic so my bad either way just some things that they said, and the matchups they did were a lil obvious and a lil stupid
I wonder where my bro find this debaters 🤣🤣
Great video either way rob
The Naruto verse has to hope Saitama doesn't sneeze
The disrespect against beerus and Saitama were insane
Gohan blows up earth and calls it a day
*and dies
Cause he can’t survive in space
Saitama breaths and the Naruto verse gets blown up
Imma just put my opinions on who beats what verse, gohan solos the opm verse (opm fans can cry), mob is soloing the mha verse, natsu is soloing the mha verse, saitama is soloing the naruto verse, goku is soloing the bleach verse, kakashi solos the hxh verse (unless alluka does his thing with the wishes), Aizen is soloing the Bc verse (dont know enough about the manga for bc so only going off the anime). Some of the takes in this video were abysmal but still fun to watch.
With jjk vs obito, i would count mahito catching him in domain expansion technically touching his soul and its game over
11:45 Well the narutoverse eradicate saitama with no difficulty. Saitama doesn't even has feats of tanked an attack that can eradicate you from existence like Naruto who tanked Toneri attack that split the moon and can eradicate you from existence with your soul and also the TSO, ETSO.
For the limbos clones saitama can't see that shit so he would gets clapped by this. Also infinite Tsukiyomi what saitama gonna do ??
Kaguya is Multi Solar systems with ETSO she can destroy her 6 dimensions with stars, planets and moons in it. And Juubidara, teen Naruto so6p are almost relative to her same with teen rinnegan Sasuke.
Bringing the Borutoverse is too much for Saitama and don't Bringing Shibai 🗿.
*Eida omnipotent charm* is enough for the opmverse. Especially when Boruto is star level and multi solar system in base form. And Saitama best feats cap at multi solar systems.
And Black cloververse slams Meliodas with negs diff they has too much hax.
And Goku speedblitz solo the bleachverse with no low diff.
Bleachverse is too much overrated.
Isshiki solo the one pieceverse with no difficulty
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Isn't saitama multi galaxy lvl.
Facts
@@Manoplys multi solar system*
@@mrfrogtrytospeak6120 Your wrong. after Blast directs the energy coming out of Saitama's fist in a different direction, a void appears in space. It is impossible for only stars to exist in a vacuum of this size. When we look into space, not every light source we see is a star. If only a few stars had disappeared, it would be impossible for such a large void to exist. The impact of Saitama's fist hitting objects millions of light-years away in a matter of seconds indicates that Saitama has the power to destroy hundreds of galaxies and even the universe in which he lives, faster than the speed of light. The closest star to our earth after the Sun is 4.3 light years away. Considering that the impact of Saitama's fist destroyed objects millions of light-years away in a matter of seconds, it would be unreasonable to deny that Saitama's serious fist destroyed hundreds of galaxies. If we calculate not only logically but also mathematically, it turns out that Saitama's serious punches are at the multi-galactic tier.
that mf was trying so hard to high ball the naruto verse lmao
Watch Tylearned "Why Naruto and Luffy isn't close".
11:28 these are the conversations that confuse me… some say Siatama can beat Goku. Then the same people say Saitama can’t solo the Naruto verse?? How?!
Come on guys ishiki solo's the one piece vers
Exactly
Here is a thing with Beerus vs Shinra, Beerus is a bad match up for Shinra. If it was Goku vs Shinra, Shinra could go to the past and kill Goku as a baby BUT, Beerus is just too old for Shinra to travel that far back
Somebody explain what hax Genos would lose to in csm. I can only see that fear devil, the control devil, or the death devil making him put forth some effort. The same dude who could keep up with and match the power of a person that could level multiple continents instantly. Ok you can't beat hax with jus power but still o gotta know
The Gun Devil took out like an entire country in a single blast. There is the infinity devil that would trap him forever. Those are the ones I remember that would pose a threat.
in the Manga the Falling Devil. literally was able to casually control the gravity of the earth for fun, and he is fodder to the Death Devil and Darkness Devil, says a lot about the hax in CSM
bro eraserhead isnt going to erase mobs power, and nobody is going to get close to mob, hes just going to tastsumaki tornado twist anyone in eye sight