Rob thank you for holding it down for Yamamoto and bleach community bc that disrespect was insane. I wish I was there to provide more reasoning as to Yamamoto should not even be on this list and I know you tried so hard with the limited bleach intel you had if you even need more info for bleach feats I suggest (@mrtommo2304, @Clyde, @tekking101) great content creators that have a great understanding of bleach character and scaling
Bro, did you watch the show how is yamamoto a fraud he doesn't have a arm he and his mentality was the thing that held him back yhwach literally stated if yamamoto went all out and didn't care about the soul society he'd have won. That's not fraudulent he has the power but he cares too much about the soul society.
@@Recon-xw5jd couldnt have every single time he fought his opponent had prep heavily too face him no one has ever ran up on him they planned far advance that alome shows he aint no fraud he had em shook most of em tried not to fight em both aizen juha created something else too face him instead of fighting him head on
@@LifeWithAnimePodcastCuz y’all didn’t understand the fight lmao. Every single opp had to make a plan just to take out Yamamoto… even Aizen had to breed a specific arrancar to seal Yamamotos flames because he knew he couldn’t deal with it. You also didn’t understand that he didn’t need to go all out against fake Yhwach, he did it because he wanted to crush everything he stood for… if you actually paid attention he was destroying him from the start he only showed the rest to taunt him. In fact, he was blitzing him even in shikai. On top of that you’re severely underestimating the clone… this is the guy that no-diffed off screened Kenpachi who btw even before the shikai buff was already the 4th strongest shinigami. He gets all the experience and memories of Yhwach including the skills and techiniques and the proficiency, outside of Yhwachs Schrift(which he didn’t even have access to at this time yet), he was probably a good 70-80% of Yhwachs strength, and Yamamoto destroyed him without a single scratch. And even on top of all that, Yhwach still had to steal Yamamotos bankai even AFTER he was weakened and depleted despite the fact he had no intentions of actually using the bankai for himself. He even had Haschwalth who’s easily too probably even like top 7-8 in the verse SHOOK from just the first form of his bankai. If you want to question his intelligence, sure. He’s made many sus decisions. But if we’re talking sheer power level then he’s anything but a fraud, like are we forgetting Yamamoto already defeated this guy?
Also y’all have to remember it had been 1000 years Yamamoto fought Yhwach so when he sense the power coming form Lloyd (the one copying Yhwach appearance and memories which is also important cuz he had the memories of fighting Yamamoto) he didn’t have any reason to think it wasn’t Yhwach. So in yamomotos mind he has to go full power cuz he is fighting Yhwach. He didn’t go full power “cuz he needed to” he went full power cuz he thought he needed to. It was just a grave miscalculation that Yhwach himself created using his Almighty. It wasn’t meant to make u question Yamamotos strength. It was meant to show u just how Yhwach battle IQ and how broken Almighty is.
Yamamoto wasn't going full power infact he held a great death of his power because if he didn't, everybody in soul society would be dead from his bankai
Okay yall. I could be biased, but I’ll say that this was the BEST one yet! The unintentional 2hr 45 minute stream looks great on yall! It felt the same way when TOPT switched to that length as well. I feel like we as a community miss you throughout the week, but with a longer vid, I’m satisfied. What makes yall (Joe & Preston) goats already in my eyes is that you dont kiss up to your guests. You kinds establish relationships with them, and so the interactions are genuine, person to person talks. The amount of subs doesn’t matter. I know yall know Rob & Tracy already, but yeah. Loved everything about this vid from the intro where all yall were rankin in each other to all the anime debate. 10/10 🫡
That means a lot. Thank you. We try to have at least an understanding of who our guests are and to pick people who are genuine people. Doing that makes it easy to have real and genuine conversations. Maybe we will have to do longer episodes now. Lol
With that Yamamoto argument, at that point you would have to say Might Guy and Naruto are frauds because they faced a fake kisame and itachi. They went all out because they know how strong the Akatsuki are. If I'm Yamamoto and I pull up and see Yhwach and a bloody Kenpachi, I'm going all out too.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast Y'all reasonings seem to be that because he used all four abilities on a fake Yhwach and lost he was a fraud. I'm saying that Yamamoto didn't want to take any chances so he went all out from the jump. Me personally I wouldn't call somebody that killed a clone of Yhwach that knew his abilities a fraud. Yamamoto was ready to fight the real one but then got his powers stolen.
I can debate you all day that Sabo is strong but he isn’t Yonko level yet. There’s no way he stands a chance to any Yonko past or present except for Buggy and old Whitebeard who can’t use Haki too much.
I like how jiraiya is like qui-gon from starwars looking or a child of prophecy. And when he failed it was up to his student to take the one that he thought was gonna change the world down. Which is like naruto stopping nagato, to obi-wan stopping anakin. So that had me theorizing was naruto not only inspired by dbz but also star wars as well. Ive never seen that before. Obito like palpatine and pain is vader. And the akatsuki is all the siths. Hidden leaf has their own little council ranking all these ninjas as genin, chunin or jonin, star wars has theirs to naming them master or padawan. They have a chancellor who tules over their so called village we will say, and hidden leaf has an hockage. Star war/naruto. Count dooku is like orouchimaru running away from the village, yoda is the master of dooku to stop his schemes. Hmmm sounds familiar orouchimaru and 3rd hockage i see. Now i cant see star wars rhe same anymore because of naruto. Lol.
I don’t think kisame losing to 2 VERY strong characters makes him a fraud. Bee was the strongest jinchuriki at the time and 7th gate guy literally made madaras humanoid susanoo fly away with a hirudora. He didn’t lose to fodder and he actually gave them a good fight.
In all of Naruto, kakashi had the hardest life. 1. His mom died young 2. Dad committed suicide 3. Watched his friend obito die infront of him 4. Killed rin 5. Went into deep depression, being a cold anbu killer 6.Minato sensei died I like how 3rd hockage appointed kakashi as team 7's sensei because it makes sense. How minato asked kakashi when he was an anbu to watch over pregnant kushina to calm himself of all that had happened. So 3rd hockage wanted to keep that promise that he made with minato. And kushina for her dying wish.
@@kelvinallen9327 bro they are reading (Watching) bleach on a surface level. Bleach slander need to stop nobody knows shit about bleach look at the things they sayin LMAO
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast That Quincy had all of Yhwach's memories and was able to use the abilities that Yhwach used, and this alone made him stronger than other ordinary Quincys. Also, Yamamoto's only mistake was not being able to understand that the enemy was showing signs of emotion when he used "Zanka no tachi south". The real Yhwach wouldn't care about his soldiers and Also yamaji used 3 attacks not 4 he cancelled zanka no tachi west because of zankt zwinger
@@animeYT9215 preach bro💯 like u don’t have to agree with sasukes mindset or ideology but if you paid attention to the story, it’s understandable that Naruto being the only one strong enough to stop him needed to be eliminated for his goal to work.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcastyea he wanted to be a dictator hokage who would eliminate the 9 tail beast and all kage and rule as the symbol that unites everyone’s hate and Naruto was the side of breaking the cycle of hate starting a new let by gone be by Gones
This episode just proved how truly lost Sanji fans are… they basically said “I know Oda writes Zoro to be stronger, but Sanji is still equal to him” 🤔 like are we good in the head? Going against Oda’s writing and putting him on a lesser level, is downplaying and disrespect. Let’s be logical.
Yhwach had to send a decoy and sneak attack a handicapped Yama. If YHWACH had to resort to that, then that’s enough of a reason based off the fear and respect Yhwach had for him. No one in the show faced Yama 1v1.
I posted this on the short but i will also post it here since i watched the full version the reason why i do not like him is Hiruzen committed a grave mistake by establishing the council with two teammates who had radically different views. These two backed nearly every harmful action that haunted the village and undermined the Hokage's decisions without facing any accountability. They backed Root and Danzo, providing them with funding, resources, and influence. Despite blaming the Hokage for everything, they did nothing to help and have been a bane to the village since gaining power. It's concerning that they still hold power and positions in the council. they litteral caused all of hiruzen's problems.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast he accepted his death because he let his emotions cloud his judgement. If yamamoto wasn't driven by revenge/anger he probably would have realised it was a clone and ended the fight immediately instead of making the fake yhwach suffer
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast you are missing the point, the abilities yama used was done out of rage. He was trying to humiliate & torment yhwach. Even summining the dead corps of yhwach' s subordinates. 👍 Yama dominated through out, but he was trying to torment & humiliate yhwach for the violence against the soul reapers. 👍
@@LifeWithAnimePodcasthe did use all his power he just showcased it what are you waffling about do yall niggas not remember him going to activate bankai again and the main yhwach sealing it just so he could kill him yall act like he “ran out the power” he legit says before that “a clone, fine then I’ll just kill you again”
Something to the zoro v sanji discussion is that zoro did not freeze when he saw the gorosei in fact he pulled up to one dolo while sanji had to do a team up attack with three other people
I think its kinda crazy to add characters who are either dead or their series is over to FRAUD WATCH. But to put them on the FRAUD LIST is fine. But to say Fraud Watch is to say they have a chance to recover themselves in the future, which seems unfair in some weird way.
Calling sasuke a fraud when he was a lil jit and his chidori was smaller than THE rasengan, and again a lil jit, freezing up to one of the Sanin, is crazy in my opinion. Naruto didn't freeze up because thats just who he is. he runs into situations when he thinks he needs to. He acts first and ask questions later
Oro packed In real combat Deidra out worked till he dropped himself off itachi we know that sitchy after that hate summit almost died bee almost died danzo pack who else kabuto pack lost to madara tho
Ope Ope no Mi best ability as a power and practicality Its versatile instant transmission is just easier transportation -Does it keep the prerequisite of having to lock on to key
So we forget Luffy,Lucci,Zoro, and Kaku struggling against Seraphim and Sanji handling 1v1 S Shark not even getting hurt by a punch in the face? OR forgetting that Sanji deflected Kizaru's lasers to save the crew? Sanji was in the heat of things while Zoro was struggling with base(joke) Lucci
the only reason everyone aside from zoro was struggling was becuz zoro didn't tell them about the fire thing till they were already half way through fighting them. Then the moment zoro told them they cleaned house
I’m surprised “L” from death note didn’t make the list or “Suzaku” from code geass, or the zero squad in bleach before the anime fix, or “Endeavor” in my hero.
Why are you guys pretending like the Doppleganger was weak? Like that guy mopped the floor with kenpachi who had killed 3 stern ritters with ease so even he was stronger than all of the stern ritters we have seen till then
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast well yea true but yhwach himself stated yama could have easily won if he just completely used his bankai and destroyed the entire soul society which would have killed everyone there.
This is just a theory by me but Jugram was there when sternritter Y and Yammamoto were fighting and he has the ability to give characters bad luck. So it is possible that he was swapping luck around to give Y a chance.
Saying Zoro and Sanji are evenly matched is crazy. is Sanji stopping big mom and kaido's "Conquest Of The Sea" combo attack? No. Is Sanji inflicting any damage to Kaido? No. Is Sanji beating Rob Lucci on Egghead 1v1? No. Sanji is incredibly strong as far as a commander goes but comparing Sanji to Zoro in strength is like saying Lucky Roo is comparable to Beckman or saying Jozu is on the same level as Marco (Also a side note people keep bringing up Sanji V Zoro "But sanji has an exoskeleton" ) I'm sorry but the Exo skeleton isn't defending him from a haki infused Enma slash Zoro is still cutting through that like paper
I think what you guys are forgetting here is that the quincy clone of yhwach was not weak, because when yamamoto showed up, that same clone had just folded kenpachi, and yamamoto seeing kenpachi get folded, was enough and more reason for him to believe he has to go out, and if this clone was able to defeat kenpachi as easily as he was, that means that his endurance and power is at a level where he could take in yamamotos shikai easily, forcing yamamoto to use bankai, so yamamotos not weak, the clone is just strong💁♂️
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast I agreed with you but if he had won then bleach would have ended since but never the less yamamoto wouldn't win against yhwach the original one but i felt he should have dealt with him showing us he is the head captain for a reason my opinion though
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast people forget that other then recoom there isn't one villain that beat up Vegeta that didn't beat up Goku too and don't act like Goku at that point in time wouldn't have got beat up by 18 too
wait so Akainu is 2nd on the Fraud list? lets see his one piece stats Bodies caught - 1 Put a hole in WB Blew off half of WB face Left a permanent X mark on Luffy Beat Aokiji in a 1v1 faced off against entire WB crew + Jinbei Became a fleet admiral However yall say Dragon is not a fraud? and hes top 5 strongest? (Rob especially) what has he done in 1,000 chapters? aside from save luffy and sabo all he has ever done is look EAST and have ellipsis "..." if you say Akainu is a fraud than by necessity Dragon has to be a fraud too. other than that. enjoyed the pod. always love when yall talk one piece..
Honestly as I watch One Piece Shank gives me an Undercover Antagonist he gives Pro through the show but we really don’t know where he really stands or motivations. I can believe he is actually the real Antagonist of the show when the end comes. I think it ends honestly with Straw Hats vs Red Hair Pirates
Btw Lloyd one of the users of the yourself script was stated to have 80-85% of ywachs power with 100% of his memories the other being Rroyd which is the inverse, Mean while an old weakened Yamamoto with one arm (which means a significant amount of power was lost in the world of bleach) losing arms in bleach is a major thing was had the ability to destroy Lloyd while holding back as to not destroy the soul society If we were claiming that just because a character didn’t preform as well as they would have in there prime then we can mention characters like Garp & White Beard (sorry rob)
2:00:36 he was specifically recruited to fight Yamamoto at that time and die. Remember his wasn’t supposed to beat Yamamoto he was suppose to weaken him/ use all his banki. It’s exactly what Aizen did💀.
Usopp technically has coo, but practically he just unconsciously used it (like how coby got it), he doesn’t control it and we know it’s difficult to control it. Rayleigh said luffy learned all the 3 basic haki in 18 months, so neutral scenario let’s divide in 3 and let’s say he learned each haki type in 6 months. Let’s say luffy learned coo in 6 months but that’s with haki master, y’all expecting usopp to control coo when no one from the monster trio is teaching him how to use it, and dressrosa was just 1-2months ago (op time). That’s why we say usopp is gonna get a power up in elbaf, because that’s the only place he has a connection and possibly there’s gonna be someone there willing to teach him
33:00 Manga spoiler* Chapter 1108 ended off with Luffy telling Sanji to get Vegapunk outta there while he holds off Saturn and Kizaru then shoots vegapunk with his light beam and the very next chapter, 1109 at the end of the chapter, Saturn summons the rest of the Gorosei.
The fact that Oda ALWAYS has Zoro fight the #2 and sanji the #3 just tells you who he thinks is stronger😂 sanji never fought the #2 to pick up zoros slack.
The thing is that most of the times Sanji is able to also take the number 2... The degree of difficulty Sanji takes his enemy down are so low especially when comparing to Zoro, and if you put theirs arsenals and abilities as whole they're even, but the Conquers Haki put him above Sanji by little. Zoro strenght is the thing that makes him stand out while Sanji dinamism makes him what he's
@agnaldomarques7948 Your argument makes no sense. Think about it. You said... 1. Sanji can take the number 2. 2. The degree Sanji takes his opponent is "low" compared to Zoro. 3. If you put their arsenals and abilities as a whole, they are even. From these 3 points... 1. Zoro's opponents have to be significantly stronger than Sanji's. If that's the case, because Zoro fights the tougher opponents, he will grow much stronger than Sanji. So, your "even" point can't exist. 2. If their opponents are relative (like most Sanji fans want to believe), then since Sanji has low difficulty with his opponent compared to Zoro, that will mean Sanji is stronger than Zoro. Which is an argument even a delusional Sanji fan can't make. 3. But then you say conquerors haki makes Zoro a little stronger. But I would argue much much stronger.
@@strykervirus1724 at any point i said that Sanji opponents are relative to Zoro! I ONLY said that the degree of difficulty that Sanji take down his Enemy are much lower when comparing to Sanji, Thats all, The point about Zoro grew stronger because he Fights stronger opponents could make Sense but was shown in wano that Sanji definatily became much stronger with the Germa powers even when fighting less strong people. On his fight against Queen at One point he was on denail of his powers Thats why Queen was actually beating him, but after accepting it became very One sided. About your last point, youre right, i didnt make myself clear: i believe Zoro is stronger and if they fight, Zoro will win most Times. The parte about even that i said earlier is about they power levels in general which i hélice arent apart from One another (if Zoro is 6M, Sanji is 5.88M) Thats why i made sure to Say what create this difference: Conquer haki I hope u understood my English
I think ope ope over instant transmission is a W, instant transmission would save you thousands, cause you to get fat and lazy, and you can teleport. But the ope ope would make you millions, say you got in a lil streat fight, your winning, and just in case you feeling a little to lazy to grab the remote or something, "Room". Its just better for day to day use man.
The sternritter had 80% of Yhwach's power, Yama wasnt even at 100%, and also only 2 of his 4 bankai abilities are "attacks". South is more of a mental trip, and west is basically armor. Also both of the strongest villains in the series had to plan around Yamamoto. I would say his just got too cocky and absorbed in rage, but never a fraud.
Lloyd was as strong as Yhwach statwise and had his experience and knowlede on top of that Jugram was right next to them the entire time which if you know you know spoilers tho And Yamamoto wasn't really struggling in the fight either he was whopping his ass then the actual yhwach obviously got rid of his bankai and COULD'VE used it himself Yamamoto knew after that he could never stand a chance And his pride is the reason he used all directions he wanted to show his basically arch nemesis what he could do and why in his mind he couldn't steal his bankai Also strength wise Yamamoto would beat Aizen even if not in a fight and that alone makes him top 10 maybe slighty less
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast Well yeah for those reasons tho he did all things considered beat yhwach - the bankai stealing and the things he has later on so all the points you made are kinda getting flushed down the toilet I mean it wouldn't make much sense to say that e.g. Goku is a fraud because he barely beat someone that mimics vegeta to a tee or would that be a sensical and relevant point to make in your eyes? And while he didn't finish of the Lloyd had Yhwach not done so it wouldn't have taken more than a few minutes considering he was missing 85% of his stomach
The True Reason Yamato have not Joined the crew yet. Is because she would be over Zoro currently and the number 2. Sehe is not gonna join until Zoro get's closer to her level and you can argue who is stronger like you currently can with Sajni and Zoro. But I honestly think alla really are sleeping on Jinbei, he is defently on Zoro and Sanji's level and would have said he was above them pre onigashima.
Akainu didn't go all out at Marineford cuz there were a lot of his allies on the battlefield If it was a situation like on Punk Hazard with kuzan and he was going all out in a 1v1 against old WB akainu wouldnt get clapped like he got on marineford Edit - how can u have a fraud list without dragon 😂 U guys definitely should've added him cuz rob was here 😂 And sabo's fraudulent escape feats don't mean nothing He aint beating zoro(extreme diff) and he definitely aint yonko level 😂 And zoro would fold sanji any day of the week
They saying sanji = zoro when zoro clearly is the stronger one. And saying shanks > mihawk when they are rivals and been fighting for ages in their prime
I truly think zoro wins against sanji because zoro has a clear way to defeat sanji in one attack. I don’t think sanji is doing better than king against that 103 mercies attack. IMO sanji doesn’t have an attack that will put zoro down in one hit.
Ok, the 3rd hockage hate is wild, 1. Minato entrusted kakashi to look out after pregnant kushina when he was dealing with grief. 2. 3rd hockage appointed kakashi as team 7's sensei because he promised kushina to look after naruto and if it wasnt for 3rd hockage naruto wouldnt have met iruka, and kakashi. Yes, 3rd hockage should've taken better care of naruto but he HAD A WHOLE VILLAGE TO LOOK AFTER BRUH. But yes he should've gave him stuff to live off of at least. Idk what 3rd, was suppose to do where everyone hates him because of the ninetails. Hey guys be nice to him. Oh f you hockage we want you to step down for thunking hes one of us. If it wasnt for jiraiya he wouldnt have been notice in the chunin exmas. 1. Helping his friend danzo way to much, with his schemes 2. Not taking better care of naruto
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast pretty much, but how is 3rd hockage gonna know that he's dead. Lol. Jiraiya didn't see eye to eye to hiruzen to tell him that naruto is special when he didn't know until his death that he is more than that.
sasuke most def stood on business, on some real sht switch him with naruto because sasuke was out there leading teams, coming up with complex strategy on his own meanwhile naruto was a follower and needed ppl to hold his hand and most of his wins was mostly plot (i m talkinh about switching naruto and sasuke out of the thumbnail)
I agree that sanji has great durability and I prefer sanji as a character over zoro, however we are forgetting to mention that on the roof, Zoro took Kaido and Big Mom’s combo attack. Granted, Zoro was badly injured, however he still lived that attack; Sanji would have died 💀and ofc as you guys mentioned, Zoro was one of the only people to actually HURT Kaido. I think it will be a close fight however Zoro is 100% winning.
Yamamoto was not a fraud. It was just good writing. Yhwach got clapped 1000 years ago why would he not have a plan against yamamoto 1000 years later?? Yamamoto was the main focus of tybw cour 1. His whole squad got killed, his lieutenant got killed and then he was fooled due to letting his emotions get out of hand and thus accepts his death. Yamamoto also grew apathetic and prideful which made him 'weak' since he wouldn't play dirty. Also throughout the fight he made sure to make yhwach 'suffer' by making him see his dead comrades. Also the clone was stated to be 80% of yhwach's power who also no diffed the actual fraud,kenpachi.(at the time). SO its not like he was a bottom tier sternitter.
1:27:03 yo I can’t stay quiet anymore. Shanks called for an audience. The five elder star still could’ve said no you’re not welcome up here. And just because the three of them are Yonko get the same level levels of respect shanks is seeing as a almost benevolent leader and supporter of those who can’t support themselves. The other two are just tyrant, killers,liar, thieves. Like it’s the oversimplification of everything that has me wanting to speak up in the comments section because Shanks his character is closer to that of Roger and him being sort of a wildcard, but he’s not out here killing Marines for the fun of it he’s not out here killing innocent people for the fun of it. He doesn’t even kill people who are necessarily his enemy. He just beat you to a pulp so bad like you either come to a point where it’s too you can’t pirate anymore or you giving up on your dreams. But basically what I’m trying to say is this suspicion of shanks is not necessary because Shanks can do things that other Yonko can’t because shanks is a different kind of Yonko altogether.
Here's why Yamamoto is a fraud. He banished 4 innocent Captains with bankai, he allowed a group of teenagers to invade his territory, and he allowed Aizen to pull a DanzOrochimaru under his own supervision. Also, he let Ichigo and Rukia fight alone during part 1. He still proved his strength against Ayon, and he took a direct attack from the quincy that killed Chōjirō. Ywach only won because he stole Yamamoto's bankai. Taking a mans power is not the same as overpowering him
Power is not just strength, ywach power is also in planning and knowledge (which amplified with the almighty, knowledge of various future), ywach overpowered the never thinking yamamoto with ingenious plans, it happened with aizen too, because they know yama-ji's ego and arrogance is as strong as his strength and that became his demise. I still find his "I'm here, there's no better security than that" line funny, even wonderweiss got a few "aAaaAa" words with that lol
Also I Think Zoro wins against Sabo. I think Sabo currently is stronger then Zoro but Zoro can cut fire and with out that edge I think Zoro takes Sabo on Haki and destructive Power. But would be a close fight, but the reasoen zoro wins is the same reason Luffy Won vs Eneru/Enel because off matchups.
Even Sanji knows Zoro is stronger than him. Thats y in Wano he tells Zoro “if I lose my mind u need to be take me out”. Meaning he knows that if shit hits fan and Zoro is bloodlusted he wins. U don’t ask someone weaker or even to u to stop u. U say those type of things to people I know can do it. If we r giving them a scale to 100 it would be probably around 65-35 imo maybe 60-40.
Also Sanji was taking the fight with queen serious from the beginning he was just scared of losing his humanity so he had a massive mental nerf. Also as far as speed go rewatch the episode/read the chapter where Marco says “here comes the stars” Sanji gets a head start and Zoro catches him from behind. So either u have to argue that those moments r just random and poorly written and not the rught or Sanji’s speed is massively overhyped.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcastI’m not a Sanji hater but in the words of my guy Seb when he be getting on Larry u have to scale with narrative. The narrative makes no sense for Sanji and Zoro to be even. Zoro’s has conquerors Haki cuz his goal and his will is to be the greatest. Sanji’s goal isn’t fighting related or strength related it’s to see the all blue. Sanji is strong cuz of his exoskeleton and cuz it’s necessary for the story but he just doesn’t have the same aspersions as Zoro and He doesn’t train like Zoro.
I'm sorry. Imo goku and Supreme kai was the reason buu got out. Vegeta had the right mind set that goku and supreme kai did not c. Cuz y wait for buu pop out when there's a chance to destroy buu before he pops out and if doesn't work buu can't absorb anymore energy thn
its crazy how sanji fans can't handle that zoro is stronger. I myself am a sanji fan but I can see that he isnt above zoro. yes, zoro and sanji are equal in being luffy's two wings but zoro will forever be above sanji in terms of overall power. the 2 main reasons for this being that zoro has access to conquerors which sanji doesnt and kaido himself told luffy that only a handful of the strongest people can access advanced conquerors which zoro can. second reason is their dreams. zoro is chasing the title of the worlds strongest swordsman whereas sanji wants to find the all blue. zoro's dream is much greater than sanji's and the path to achieving it eclipses sanji's in every manner. now sanji isnt much weaker than zoro and if they faught it would be an high-extreme diff with zoro winning.
Zoro is stronger because his main thing is fighting Sanjis main thing has always been cooking, so my believe is that sanji is, no matter how much, weaker than zoro
Some of yall are reading two piece but if you are reading one piece then zoro wins mid to high diff. Also the speed feats for sanji is against a slow opponent. Zoro and Sanji are not even
"Sanji is against slow opponents" lol using the recent chapters against nusjuro, sanji shouted trying to save bonney, so we know nusjuro knows he's there yet sanji was able to block him mid attack and was also able to land a kick. With zoro instead we also saw nusjuro mid attack, zoro was also thrown by jinbe, yet nusjuro who didn't know zoro was there was able to notice and was able to block zoro. You can say 100% zoro ap>sanji ap but sanji's speed >>> zoro
Goat Talk! I'm just glad to be here
You talking about yourself??? 🤔👀
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Rob thank you for holding it down for Yamamoto and bleach community bc that disrespect was insane. I wish I was there to provide more reasoning as to Yamamoto should not even be on this list and I know you tried so hard with the limited bleach intel you had if you even need more info for bleach feats I suggest (@mrtommo2304, @Clyde, @tekking101) great content creators that have a great understanding of bleach character and scaling
Rob always standing up for Bleach amongst these haters
Who hating?? lol
Bro, did you watch the show how is yamamoto a fraud he doesn't have a arm he and his mentality was the thing that held him back yhwach literally stated if yamamoto went all out and didn't care about the soul society he'd have won.
That's not fraudulent he has the power but he cares too much about the soul society.
@@Recon-xw5jd couldnt have every single time he fought his opponent had prep heavily too face him no one has ever ran up on him they planned far advance that alome shows he aint no fraud he had em shook most of em tried not to fight em both aizen juha created something else too face him instead of fighting him head on
@@LifeWithAnimePodcastCuz y’all didn’t understand the fight lmao. Every single opp had to make a plan just to take out Yamamoto… even Aizen had to breed a specific arrancar to seal Yamamotos flames because he knew he couldn’t deal with it.
You also didn’t understand that he didn’t need to go all out against fake Yhwach, he did it because he wanted to crush everything he stood for… if you actually paid attention he was destroying him from the start he only showed the rest to taunt him. In fact, he was blitzing him even in shikai.
On top of that you’re severely underestimating the clone… this is the guy that no-diffed off screened Kenpachi who btw even before the shikai buff was already the 4th strongest shinigami. He gets all the experience and memories of Yhwach including the skills and techiniques and the proficiency, outside of Yhwachs Schrift(which he didn’t even have access to at this time yet), he was probably a good 70-80% of Yhwachs strength, and Yamamoto destroyed him without a single scratch.
And even on top of all that, Yhwach still had to steal Yamamotos bankai even AFTER he was weakened and depleted despite the fact he had no intentions of actually using the bankai for himself.
He even had Haschwalth who’s easily too probably even like top 7-8 in the verse SHOOK from just the first form of his bankai.
If you want to question his intelligence, sure. He’s made many sus decisions. But if we’re talking sheer power level then he’s anything but a fraud, like are we forgetting Yamamoto already defeated this guy?
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Love this new one piece/anime community forming in the last few months. We need real content creators
We been here. But yeah love that more people are enjoying OP
Also y’all have to remember it had been 1000 years Yamamoto fought Yhwach so when he sense the power coming form Lloyd (the one copying Yhwach appearance and memories which is also important cuz he had the memories of fighting Yamamoto) he didn’t have any reason to think it wasn’t Yhwach. So in yamomotos mind he has to go full power cuz he is fighting Yhwach. He didn’t go full power “cuz he needed to” he went full power cuz he thought he needed to. It was just a grave miscalculation that Yhwach himself created using his Almighty. It wasn’t meant to make u question Yamamotos strength. It was meant to show u just how Yhwach battle IQ and how broken Almighty is.
Yamamoto wasn't going full power infact he held a great death of his power because if he didn't, everybody in soul society would be dead from his bankai
Shonenshowdown should have grabbed the popcorn in that zoro vs sanji part 😂
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The Best podcast to exist, shoutout to Joe, and Preston for putting in the work, and dedication for making content
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The hokage having to deal with danzo like a shareholders meeting of ninjas its crazy
Okay yall. I could be biased, but I’ll say that this was the BEST one yet! The unintentional 2hr 45 minute stream looks great on yall! It felt the same way when TOPT switched to that length as well. I feel like we as a community miss you throughout the week, but with a longer vid, I’m satisfied. What makes yall (Joe & Preston) goats already in my eyes is that you dont kiss up to your guests. You kinds establish relationships with them, and so the interactions are genuine, person to person talks. The amount of subs doesn’t matter. I know yall know Rob & Tracy already, but yeah.
Loved everything about this vid from the intro where all yall were rankin in each other to all the anime debate. 10/10 🫡
That means a lot. Thank you. We try to have at least an understanding of who our guests are and to pick people who are genuine people. Doing that makes it easy to have real and genuine conversations. Maybe we will have to do longer episodes now. Lol
With that Yamamoto argument, at that point you would have to say Might Guy and Naruto are frauds because they faced a fake kisame and itachi. They went all out because they know how strong the Akatsuki are. If I'm Yamamoto and I pull up and see Yhwach and a bloody Kenpachi, I'm going all out too.
Going all out isnt the problem. Losing after doing so is.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast Y'all reasonings seem to be that because he used all four abilities on a fake Yhwach and lost he was a fraud. I'm saying that Yamamoto didn't want to take any chances so he went all out from the jump. Me personally I wouldn't call somebody that killed a clone of Yhwach that knew his abilities a fraud. Yamamoto was ready to fight the real one but then got his powers stolen.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcasthe lost because the main villain sealed his bankai not because he used up all his reaitsu
@@KaiLoRei well technically he got snuck by the real yhwach
Rob always defend bleach much love bro❤❤
Always lol
"sounds like a fetish" lmao!
We are starting this off wild 🤣🤣
I can debate you all day that Sabo is strong but he isn’t Yonko level yet. There’s no way he stands a chance to any Yonko past or present except for Buggy and old Whitebeard who can’t use Haki too much.
I like how jiraiya is like qui-gon from starwars looking or a child of prophecy. And when he failed it was up to his student to take the one that he thought was gonna change the world down. Which is like naruto stopping nagato, to obi-wan stopping anakin. So that had me theorizing was naruto not only inspired by dbz but also star wars as well. Ive never seen that before. Obito like palpatine and pain is vader. And the akatsuki is all the siths. Hidden leaf has their own little council ranking all these ninjas as genin, chunin or jonin, star wars has theirs to naming them master or padawan. They have a chancellor who tules over their so called village we will say, and hidden leaf has an hockage. Star war/naruto. Count dooku is like orouchimaru running away from the village, yoda is the master of dooku to stop his schemes. Hmmm sounds familiar orouchimaru and 3rd hockage i see. Now i cant see star wars rhe same anymore because of naruto. Lol.
I don’t think kisame losing to 2 VERY strong characters makes him a fraud. Bee was the strongest jinchuriki at the time and 7th gate guy literally made madaras humanoid susanoo fly away with a hirudora. He didn’t lose to fodder and he actually gave them a good fight.
Kisame no fraud
In all of Naruto, kakashi had the hardest life.
1. His mom died young
2. Dad committed suicide
3. Watched his friend obito die infront of him
4. Killed rin
5. Went into deep depression, being a cold anbu killer
6.Minato sensei died
I like how 3rd hockage appointed kakashi as team 7's sensei because it makes sense. How minato asked kakashi when he was an anbu to watch over pregnant kushina to calm himself of all that had happened. So 3rd hockage wanted to keep that promise that he made with minato. And kushina for her dying wish.
Nah Itachi, Sasuke, and Gaara had it worse
Kiado never once fought Yamato seriously
True true
So he fought Zoro seriously? 😂 And Zoro cut him in same place where was cut three times
That doppelganger has %80 of Yhwach
Yama had one arm. Even yhwach talked about that. Yama lost 15% of his body
@@kelvinallen9327Yeah, having two arms instead of just one is a huge increase in strength, kenpachi vs nnoitra is literally a perfect example of this.
@@kelvinallen9327 bro they are reading (Watching) bleach on a surface level. Bleach slander need to stop nobody knows shit about bleach look at the things they sayin LMAO
Yamamoto should have cleared him
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast That Quincy had all of Yhwach's memories and was able to use the abilities that Yhwach used, and this alone made him stronger than other ordinary Quincys. Also, Yamamoto's only mistake was not being able to understand that the enemy was showing signs of emotion when he used "Zanka no tachi south". The real Yhwach wouldn't care about his soldiers and Also yamaji used 3 attacks not 4 he cancelled zanka no tachi west because of zankt zwinger
Rob saying Sasuke fighting Naruto for no reason is wild
At the end? What was the reason? Lol
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast bro Sasuke fought Naruto to get the Nine tails and kill all the tail beast and Naruto was the only one in his way like wdym?
@@animeYT9215 preach bro💯 like u don’t have to agree with sasukes mindset or ideology but if you paid attention to the story, it’s understandable that Naruto being the only one strong enough to stop him needed to be eliminated for his goal to work.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcastyea he wanted to be a dictator hokage who would eliminate the 9 tail beast and all kage and rule as the symbol that unites everyone’s hate and Naruto was the side of breaking the cycle of hate starting a new let by gone be by Gones
Why I thought Tracy Allen was a Naruto fan with the facts 😂
This episode just proved how truly lost Sanji fans are… they basically said “I know Oda writes Zoro to be stronger, but Sanji is still equal to him” 🤔 like are we good in the head?
Going against Oda’s writing and putting him on a lesser level, is downplaying and disrespect. Let’s be logical.
GREAT POINT!!! Ill make sure to hit on that next time.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast you got ganged on brotha, hats off to you for continuing the episode in good spirits 💀 I saw the fumes
His character is based on combat he has to be portrayed as stronger
It's still 50-50 or 51-49
@@royalfun1031 stop it, restart from chapter 1… it’s a matter of reading comprehension
@SupremeKi the creator oda said they are equal so make sure your comprehending and not just favoring a character
Sabo is not beating any Yonko he is getting one shotted
Tracy deadass looks like Pat from RTTV, especially in that thumbnail lol
Dang. LOL
Yhwach had to send a decoy and sneak attack a handicapped Yama. If YHWACH had to resort to that, then that’s enough of a reason based off the fear and respect Yhwach had for him. No one in the show faced Yama 1v1.
I posted this on the short but i will also post it here since i watched the full version the reason why i do not like him is Hiruzen committed a grave mistake by establishing the council with two teammates who had radically different views. These two backed nearly every harmful action that haunted the village and undermined the Hokage's decisions without facing any accountability. They backed Root and Danzo, providing them with funding, resources, and influence. Despite blaming the Hokage for everything, they did nothing to help and have been a bane to the village since gaining power. It's concerning that they still hold power and positions in the council. they litteral caused all of hiruzen's problems.
Code is more of a fraud than Sasuke
Code ???
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Dont forget, yamamooto didnt loose to fake yhwach. Plus, he lost his arm before & got weaker. Plus, yhwach has the power to make his quincys stronger.
Its more that he shouldnt have had to use all of his power and gotten to that point. He shouldnt be dead.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast he accepted his death because he let his emotions cloud his judgement.
If yamamoto wasn't driven by revenge/anger he probably would have realised it was a clone and ended the fight immediately instead of making the fake yhwach suffer
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast you are missing the point, the abilities yama used was done out of rage. He was trying to humiliate & torment yhwach. Even summining the dead corps of yhwach' s subordinates. 👍
Yama dominated through out, but he was trying to torment & humiliate yhwach for the violence against the soul reapers. 👍
@@LifeWithAnimePodcasthe did use all his power he just showcased it what are you waffling about do yall niggas not remember him going to activate bankai again and the main yhwach sealing it just so he could kill him yall act like he “ran out the power” he legit says before that “a clone, fine then I’ll just kill you again”
Something to the zoro v sanji discussion is that zoro did not freeze when he saw the gorosei in fact he pulled up to one dolo while sanji had to do a team up attack with three other people
HIMOTHY!!
That was Saturn's ability bozo
@@royalfun1031literally how do people miss that 🤦🏽♂️
I think its kinda crazy to add characters who are either dead or their series is over to FRAUD WATCH. But to put them on the FRAUD LIST is fine. But to say Fraud Watch is to say they have a chance to recover themselves in the future, which seems unfair in some weird way.
These guys argument for zoro v sanji is oda makes zoro stronger but sanji is supposed to be stronger like what?? Do you even hear ur own words😂😂😂
Thank you!!!!
@@ALI-sc9ij my thoughts exactly😂 just bc you WANT sanji to be stronger doesn’t mean he is.
How a wing is weaker then other wing can you explain me@@jaybronx98
@@jaybronx98He is equal
@@royalfun1031 nope
Calling sasuke a fraud when he was a lil jit and his chidori was smaller than THE rasengan, and again a lil jit, freezing up to one of the Sanin, is crazy in my opinion. Naruto didn't freeze up because thats just who he is. he runs into situations when he thinks he needs to. He acts first and ask questions later
Many funny and controversial take that's what I like. Thank you guys for all the work you put in this community ❤
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Oro packed In real combat Deidra out worked till he dropped himself off itachi we know that sitchy after that hate summit almost died bee almost died danzo pack who else kabuto pack lost to madara tho
Yo the more i think about it, the more i realize, WB got cooked by Akainu huh.
COOKED?!?!
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast Definitely!
WB, half dead, hitting Akainu twice and putting him on time-out :
Ope Ope no Mi best ability as a power and practicality Its versatile
instant transmission is just easier transportation -Does it keep the prerequisite of having to lock on to key
I wish Larry was on to have this debate to back up Joe lol
Facts!
Would have been great to have some back up
So we forget Luffy,Lucci,Zoro, and Kaku struggling against Seraphim and Sanji handling 1v1 S Shark not even getting hurt by a punch in the face? OR forgetting that Sanji deflected Kizaru's lasers to save the crew? Sanji was in the heat of things while Zoro was struggling with base(joke) Lucci
Im glad you said "joke" on that last part.
PREACH
the only reason everyone aside from zoro was struggling was becuz zoro didn't tell them about the fire thing till they were already half way through fighting them. Then the moment zoro told them they cleaned house
third hokage part funny ash
7:56 not the lime juice 🤣🤣
CRAZY lol. In the water too.
I’m surprised “L” from death note didn’t make the list or “Suzaku” from code geass, or the zero squad in bleach before the anime fix, or “Endeavor” in my hero.
Maybe we will run it back
Zero squad still the biggest disappointment ever.
Rob telling an NFL player we can get it on the field too is insane 😂😂😂
He know better lol
Anime Impact. The topic of Windbraker that was deep!
Thanks bro 🙏🏿
Why are you guys pretending like the Doppleganger was weak? Like that guy mopped the floor with kenpachi who had killed 3 stern ritters with ease so even he was stronger than all of the stern ritters we have seen till then
We know he’s not weak. But shouldn’t Yamamoto be stronger???
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast well yea true but yhwach himself stated yama could have easily won if he just completely used his bankai and destroyed the entire soul society which would have killed everyone there.
Funny that yhwach himself called Yama a fraud cause Yama was too soft hearted to go that for to win the war so it's understandable why he is suspected
This is just a theory by me but Jugram was there when sternritter Y and Yammamoto were fighting and he has the ability to give characters bad luck. So it is possible that he was swapping luck around to give Y a chance.
Interesting theory. I like it.
Saying Zoro and Sanji are evenly matched is crazy. is Sanji stopping big mom and kaido's "Conquest Of The Sea" combo attack? No. Is Sanji inflicting any damage to Kaido? No. Is Sanji beating Rob Lucci on Egghead 1v1? No. Sanji is incredibly strong as far as a commander goes but comparing Sanji to Zoro in strength is like saying Lucky Roo is comparable to Beckman or saying Jozu is on the same level as Marco (Also a side note people keep bringing up Sanji V Zoro "But sanji has an exoskeleton" ) I'm sorry but the Exo skeleton isn't defending him from a haki infused Enma slash Zoro is still cutting through that like paper
I think what you guys are forgetting here is that the quincy clone of yhwach was not weak, because when yamamoto showed up, that same clone had just folded kenpachi, and yamamoto seeing kenpachi get folded, was enough and more reason for him to believe he has to go out, and if this clone was able to defeat kenpachi as easily as he was, that means that his endurance and power is at a level where he could take in yamamotos shikai easily, forcing yamamoto to use bankai, so yamamotos not weak, the clone is just strong💁♂️
Let me add to it. His second in command who was loyal to him for 1,000 years got offed before the battle started of course your gonna be heated.
Right. Definitely not saying he is weak. But Yamamoto was supposed to be HIM! And instead he wasnt.
Right. I agree with him being angry. Just thought he should have won for how strong he was.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast I agreed with you but if he had won then bleach would have ended since but never the less yamamoto wouldn't win against yhwach the original one but i felt he should have dealt with him showing us he is the head captain for a reason my opinion though
W episode as usual guys. This was some "healthy" debating lol. Gotta say that I have no issues with this fraud list.
Lol. It’s always healthy around here 🤣🤣
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast people forget that other then recoom there isn't one villain that beat up Vegeta that didn't beat up Goku too and don't act like Goku at that point in time wouldn't have got beat up by 18 too
wait so Akainu is 2nd on the Fraud list?
lets see his one piece stats
Bodies caught - 1
Put a hole in WB
Blew off half of WB face
Left a permanent X mark on Luffy
Beat Aokiji in a 1v1
faced off against entire WB crew + Jinbei
Became a fleet admiral
However yall say Dragon is not a fraud? and hes top 5 strongest? (Rob especially)
what has he done in 1,000 chapters?
aside from save luffy and sabo all he has ever done is look EAST and have ellipsis "..."
if you say Akainu is a fraud than by necessity Dragon has to be a fraud too.
other than that. enjoyed the pod. always love when yall talk one piece..
Dragon is for sure a fraud! 🤣🤣
I know that body you mentioned ain't whitebeard or is you talking about that marine he got off cam
@GyalXE_RSA He's talking about Donut D Ace.
nah dragon not a fraud, he too busy looking east😂😂
Honestly as I watch One Piece Shank gives me an Undercover Antagonist he gives Pro through the show but we really don’t know where he really stands or motivations. I can believe he is actually the real Antagonist of the show when the end comes. I think it ends honestly with Straw Hats vs Red Hair Pirates
Btw Lloyd one of the users of the yourself script was stated to have 80-85% of ywachs power with 100% of his memories the other being Rroyd which is the inverse,
Mean while an old weakened Yamamoto with one arm (which means a significant amount of power was lost in the world of bleach) losing arms in bleach is a major thing was had the ability to destroy Lloyd while holding back as to not destroy the soul society
If we were claiming that just because a character didn’t preform as well as they would have in there prime then we can mention characters like Garp & White Beard (sorry rob)
The twins were probably one of the most op stern ritters lowkey 🤷🏾♂️ their hax are crazy
2:00:36 he was specifically recruited to fight Yamamoto at that time and die. Remember his wasn’t supposed to beat Yamamoto he was suppose to weaken him/ use all his banki. It’s exactly what Aizen did💀.
Why wasn’t Midhawk listed on the most fraudulent characters
I mean swords vs legs is the debate
Usopp technically has coo, but practically he just unconsciously used it (like how coby got it), he doesn’t control it and we know it’s difficult to control it. Rayleigh said luffy learned all the 3 basic haki in 18 months, so neutral scenario let’s divide in 3 and let’s say he learned each haki type in 6 months. Let’s say luffy learned coo in 6 months but that’s with haki master, y’all expecting usopp to control coo when no one from the monster trio is teaching him how to use it, and dressrosa was just 1-2months ago (op time). That’s why we say usopp is gonna get a power up in elbaf, because that’s the only place he has a connection and possibly there’s gonna be someone there willing to teach him
He better get a power up. Thats all im saying. For all the God Usopp lovers. I pray he does.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast looking at egghead right now it's fair to say that everyone better get a power up, even gear 5 luffy
Familyman looks like hes finna cry that Zoro is getting crapped on
25:12 Always look at the heights. Oda explained the heights of one piece rivals show who is slightly stronger on a regular situational basis
I’ll look into that
33:00 Manga spoiler* Chapter 1108 ended off with Luffy telling Sanji to get Vegapunk outta there while he holds off Saturn and Kizaru then shoots vegapunk with his light beam and the very next chapter, 1109 at the end of the chapter, Saturn summons the rest of the Gorosei.
The fact that Oda ALWAYS has Zoro fight the #2 and sanji the #3 just tells you who he thinks is stronger😂 sanji never fought the #2 to pick up zoros slack.
Exactly. Oda made them how they are. End of story.
The thing is that most of the times Sanji is able to also take the number 2... The degree of difficulty Sanji takes his enemy down are so low especially when comparing to Zoro, and if you put theirs arsenals and abilities as whole they're even, but the Conquers Haki put him above Sanji by little.
Zoro strenght is the thing that makes him stand out while Sanji dinamism makes him what he's
@agnaldomarques7948 Your argument makes no sense. Think about it. You said...
1. Sanji can take the number 2.
2. The degree Sanji takes his opponent is "low" compared to Zoro.
3. If you put their arsenals and abilities as a whole, they are even.
From these 3 points...
1. Zoro's opponents have to be significantly stronger than Sanji's. If that's the case, because Zoro fights the tougher opponents, he will grow much stronger than Sanji. So, your "even" point can't exist.
2. If their opponents are relative (like most Sanji fans want to believe), then since Sanji has low difficulty with his opponent compared to Zoro, that will mean Sanji is stronger than Zoro. Which is an argument even a delusional Sanji fan can't make.
3. But then you say conquerors haki makes Zoro a little stronger. But I would argue much much stronger.
@@strykervirus1724 how did u assume that i'm Sanji fan? Just because i said what i think?
@@strykervirus1724 at any point i said that Sanji opponents are relative to Zoro! I ONLY said that the degree of difficulty that Sanji take down his Enemy are much lower when comparing to Sanji, Thats all,
The point about Zoro grew stronger because he Fights stronger opponents could make Sense but was shown in wano that Sanji definatily became much stronger with the Germa powers even when fighting less strong people. On his fight against Queen at One point he was on denail of his powers Thats why Queen was actually beating him, but after accepting it became very One sided.
About your last point, youre right, i didnt make myself clear: i believe Zoro is stronger and if they fight, Zoro will win most Times. The parte about even that i said earlier is about they power levels in general which i hélice arent apart from One another (if Zoro is 6M, Sanji is 5.88M) Thats why i made sure to Say what create this difference: Conquer haki
I hope u understood my English
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I think ope ope over instant transmission is a W, instant transmission would save you thousands, cause you to get fat and lazy, and you can teleport. But the ope ope would make you millions, say you got in a lil streat fight, your winning, and just in case you feeling a little to lazy to grab the remote or something, "Room". Its just better for day to day use man.
The sternritter had 80% of Yhwach's power, Yama wasnt even at 100%, and also only 2 of his 4 bankai abilities are "attacks". South is more of a mental trip, and west is basically armor. Also both of the strongest villains in the series had to plan around Yamamoto. I would say his just got too cocky and absorbed in rage, but never a fraud.
Kaido put zoro in a blunt, literally
zoro has conquerors point blank period
Lloyd was as strong as Yhwach statwise and had his experience and knowlede on top of that Jugram was right next to them the entire time which if you know you know spoilers tho
And Yamamoto wasn't really struggling in the fight either he was whopping his ass then the actual yhwach obviously got rid of his bankai and COULD'VE used it himself Yamamoto knew after that he could never stand a chance
And his pride is the reason he used all directions he wanted to show his basically arch nemesis what he could do and why in his mind he couldn't steal his bankai
Also strength wise Yamamoto would beat Aizen even if not in a fight and that alone makes him top 10 maybe slighty less
All that is great... but that man is dead. And he didnt finish off the doppleganger...
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast Well yeah for those reasons tho he did all things considered beat yhwach - the bankai stealing and the things he has later on so all the points you made are kinda getting flushed down the toilet I mean it wouldn't make much sense to say that e.g. Goku is a fraud because he barely beat someone that mimics vegeta to a tee or would that be a sensical and relevant point to make in your eyes?
And while he didn't finish of the Lloyd had Yhwach not done so it wouldn't have taken more than a few minutes considering he was missing 85% of his stomach
The True Reason Yamato have not Joined the crew yet. Is because she would be over Zoro currently and the number 2. Sehe is not gonna join until Zoro get's closer to her level and you can argue who is stronger like you currently can with Sajni and Zoro. But I honestly think alla really are sleeping on Jinbei, he is defently on Zoro and Sanji's level and would have said he was above them pre onigashima.
Respect my goat captain kidd
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Zoro is mid diffing Sabo. Bro has not feats that put him close Zoro...
Talk about it.
Hell no. Mid diff? Zoro meatriders really go out of their way.
It's extreme diff for Zoro.
@@307nishchay8How?
It's extreme but Zoro W
Sabo wins💀💀
Akainu didn't go all out at Marineford cuz there were a lot of his allies on the battlefield
If it was a situation like on Punk Hazard with kuzan and he was going all out in a 1v1 against old WB akainu wouldnt get clapped like he got on marineford
Edit - how can u have a fraud list without dragon 😂
U guys definitely should've added him cuz rob was here 😂
And sabo's fraudulent escape feats don't mean nothing
He aint beating zoro(extreme diff) and he definitely aint yonko level 😂
And zoro would fold sanji any day of the week
Fraud D Dragon FR. Dragon would be automatically No 1 in my list
That man didn’t care about his teammates. Lol
I love this pod Great conversation
Fantastic character dive, I love the passion.
Thank you! We are passionate folk 🤣
They saying sanji = zoro when zoro clearly is the stronger one. And saying shanks > mihawk when they are rivals and been fighting for ages in their prime
I truly think zoro wins against sanji because zoro has a clear way to defeat sanji in one attack. I don’t think sanji is doing better than king against that 103 mercies attack. IMO sanji doesn’t have an attack that will put zoro down in one hit.
Y’all didn’t mention that vegeta was on his knees in front of beerus
Lol. TRUE!!!
That was the damn god of destruction
Bro did yall forget that Zoro tanked an attack from big mom and kaido and was able to hurt kaido
Talk about it
My Guys!!! We all just working for @ShonenShowdown
Exactly sanji and zoro are EVENNN🗣🗣🗣
W vid 🔥
Nooooooo
A few good men bro
This was good I enjoyed this keep it up !!
Them Zoro vs Sanji takes gotta be worst 3 v 1 I’ve ever seen😂😭
You gotta be team Zoro!!
Kisame is a fraud cause he lost to some of the strongest characters in the show that take is very bad
I didnt even think about that first part.
Ok, the 3rd hockage hate is wild, 1. Minato entrusted kakashi to look out after pregnant kushina when he was dealing with grief.
2. 3rd hockage appointed kakashi as team 7's sensei because he promised kushina to look after naruto and if it wasnt for 3rd hockage naruto wouldnt have met iruka, and kakashi.
Yes, 3rd hockage should've taken better care of naruto but he HAD A WHOLE VILLAGE TO LOOK AFTER BRUH. But yes he should've gave him stuff to live off of at least. Idk what 3rd, was suppose to do where everyone hates him because of the ninetails. Hey guys be nice to him. Oh f you hockage we want you to step down for thunking hes one of us. If it wasnt for jiraiya he wouldnt have been notice in the chunin exmas.
1. Helping his friend danzo way to much, with his schemes
2. Not taking better care of naruto
@@XxDream_CasterxX maybe explain the situation and that this baby with a fox inside of him just saved the ENTIRE village
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast pretty much, but how is 3rd hockage gonna know that he's dead. Lol. Jiraiya didn't see eye to eye to hiruzen to tell him that naruto is special when he didn't know until his death that he is more than that.
sasuke most def stood on business, on some real sht switch him with naruto because sasuke was out there leading teams, coming up with complex strategy on his own meanwhile naruto was a follower and needed ppl to hold his hand and most of his wins was mostly plot
(i m talkinh about switching naruto and sasuke out of the thumbnail)
You all are crazy if yall believe that sanji is even with zoro.
Thank you lol
I agree that sanji has great durability and I prefer sanji as a character over zoro, however we are forgetting to mention that on the roof, Zoro took Kaido and Big Mom’s combo attack. Granted, Zoro was badly injured, however he still lived that attack; Sanji would have died 💀and ofc as you guys mentioned, Zoro was one of the only people to actually HURT Kaido. I think it will be a close fight however Zoro is 100% winning.
1000%
If Zoro survived by plot armor so would Sanji and he has better durability so the bones won't be broken
Yamamoto was not a fraud. It was just good writing.
Yhwach got clapped 1000 years ago why would he not have a plan against yamamoto 1000 years later??
Yamamoto was the main focus of tybw cour 1.
His whole squad got killed, his lieutenant got killed and then he was fooled due to letting his emotions get out of hand and thus accepts his death.
Yamamoto also grew apathetic and prideful which made him 'weak' since he wouldn't play dirty.
Also throughout the fight he made sure to make yhwach 'suffer' by making him see his dead comrades.
Also the clone was stated to be 80% of yhwach's power who also no diffed the actual fraud,kenpachi.(at the time). SO its not like he was a bottom tier sternitter.
It definitely made for a really good story.
1:27:03 yo I can’t stay quiet anymore. Shanks called for an audience. The five elder star still could’ve said no you’re not welcome up here. And just because the three of them are Yonko get the same level levels of respect shanks is seeing as a almost benevolent leader and supporter of those who can’t support themselves. The other two are just tyrant, killers,liar, thieves. Like it’s the oversimplification of everything that has me wanting to speak up in the comments section because Shanks his character is closer to that of Roger and him being sort of a wildcard, but he’s not out here killing Marines for the fun of it he’s not out here killing innocent people for the fun of it. He doesn’t even kill people who are necessarily his enemy. He just beat you to a pulp so bad like you either come to a point where it’s too you can’t pirate anymore or you giving up on your dreams. But basically what I’m trying to say is this suspicion of shanks is not necessary because Shanks can do things that other Yonko can’t because shanks is a different kind of Yonko altogether.
Here's why Yamamoto is a fraud. He banished 4 innocent Captains with bankai, he allowed a group of teenagers to invade his territory, and he allowed Aizen to pull a DanzOrochimaru under his own supervision. Also, he let Ichigo and Rukia fight alone during part 1.
He still proved his strength against Ayon, and he took a direct attack from the quincy that killed Chōjirō. Ywach only won because he stole Yamamoto's bankai. Taking a mans power is not the same as overpowering him
Forgot about that first part.
Power is not just strength, ywach power is also in planning and knowledge (which amplified with the almighty, knowledge of various future), ywach overpowered the never thinking yamamoto with ingenious plans, it happened with aizen too, because they know yama-ji's ego and arrogance is as strong as his strength and that became his demise. I still find his "I'm here, there's no better security than that" line funny, even wonderweiss got a few "aAaaAa" words with that lol
Brooke is a hard counter to Zeus
The cuffs on yamato were never sealed prism stone we gotta get that misconception outta here
Interesting.
Also I Think Zoro wins against Sabo. I think Sabo currently is stronger then Zoro but Zoro can cut fire and with out that edge I think Zoro takes Sabo on Haki and destructive Power. But would be a close fight, but the reasoen zoro wins is the same reason Luffy Won vs Eneru/Enel because off matchups.
19:34 bruuuuuuddaaaa
does tracy actually believe his own words ?🤦🏽
Unfortunately he does. LOL
Even Sanji knows Zoro is stronger than him. Thats y in Wano he tells Zoro “if I lose my mind u need to be take me out”. Meaning he knows that if shit hits fan and Zoro is bloodlusted he wins. U don’t ask someone weaker or even to u to stop u. U say those type of things to people I know can do it. If we r giving them a scale to 100 it would be probably around 65-35 imo maybe 60-40.
Also Sanji was taking the fight with queen serious from the beginning he was just scared of losing his humanity so he had a massive mental nerf. Also as far as speed go rewatch the episode/read the chapter where Marco says “here comes the stars” Sanji gets a head start and Zoro catches him from behind. So either u have to argue that those moments r just random and poorly written and not the rught or Sanji’s speed is massively overhyped.
TALK ABOUT IT!!!
@@LifeWithAnimePodcastI’m not a Sanji hater but in the words of my guy Seb when he be getting on Larry u have to scale with narrative. The narrative makes no sense for Sanji and Zoro to be even. Zoro’s has conquerors Haki cuz his goal and his will is to be the greatest. Sanji’s goal isn’t fighting related or strength related it’s to see the all blue. Sanji is strong cuz of his exoskeleton and cuz it’s necessary for the story but he just doesn’t have the same aspersions as Zoro and He doesn’t train like Zoro.
@@RedEyeItachi that's supposed to be a team moment
@@RedEyeItachithat's why he's the goat he keeps up without training
They should have had me on there for Vegeta. I'm tired I'm tired of the Vegeta disrespect
I'm sorry. Imo goku and Supreme kai was the reason buu got out. Vegeta had the right mind set that goku and supreme kai did not c. Cuz y wait for buu pop out when there's a chance to destroy buu before he pops out and if doesn't work buu can't absorb anymore energy thn
Hmmmmm
its crazy how sanji fans can't handle that zoro is stronger. I myself am a sanji fan but I can see that he isnt above zoro. yes, zoro and sanji are equal in being luffy's two wings but zoro will forever be above sanji in terms of overall power. the 2 main reasons for this being that zoro has access to conquerors which sanji doesnt and kaido himself told luffy that only a handful of the strongest people can access advanced conquerors which zoro can. second reason is their dreams. zoro is chasing the title of the worlds strongest swordsman whereas sanji wants to find the all blue. zoro's dream is much greater than sanji's and the path to achieving it eclipses sanji's in every manner. now sanji isnt much weaker than zoro and if they faught it would be an high-extreme diff with zoro winning.
Whitebeard haki was failing at marineford so you can’t say that Tracy
Agreed, that is a great point. But that is still a feat nonetheless.
@@LifeWithAnimePodcast oh and akainu should be one people believe he can take prime roger and whitebeard down low diff
sabo couldn't even beat fujitora how is he ayonko level
Zoro is stronger because his main thing is fighting
Sanjis main thing has always been cooking, so my believe is that sanji is, no matter how much, weaker than zoro
Some of yall are reading two piece but if you are reading one piece then zoro wins mid to high diff. Also the speed feats for sanji is against a slow opponent. Zoro and Sanji are not even
Talk about it.
"Sanji is against slow opponents" lol using the recent chapters against nusjuro, sanji shouted trying to save bonney, so we know nusjuro knows he's there yet sanji was able to block him mid attack and was also able to land a kick. With zoro instead we also saw nusjuro mid attack, zoro was also thrown by jinbe, yet nusjuro who didn't know zoro was there was able to notice and was able to block zoro. You can say 100% zoro ap>sanji ap but sanji's speed >>> zoro
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W rage bait with saying sanji and zoro are even
Yeah yeah sabo is yonko level "cough cough cough"
Damn sorry I choked on cap
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