Here are the time stamps - 0:15 - Introduction 1:51 - Deluxe reverb clean 4:05 - Deluxe reverb pushed clean 5:00 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD without tube screamer 5:17 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD with Tube Screamer Neck pup 5:33 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD with Tube Screamer Middle Pickup 5:56 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD with Tube Screamer Bridge Pickup 7:33 - Princeton reverb clean 9:23 - Princeton pushed Clean 13:07 - Hard Pushed Princeton without tube screamer 10:22 - Princeton hard push with tube screamer 15:08 - Princeton and creamback 16:50 - Princeton pushed clean + Creamback 17:34 - Hard Overdriven Princeton + Creamback no tubescreamer 17:53 - Hard Overdriven Princeton + Creamback with tubescreamer 20:02 - Deluxe + Creamback Clean 21:10 - Pushed Deluxe + Creamback 21:50 - Hard Pushed Deluxe + Creamback no tubescreamer 22:24 - Hard Pushed Deluxe + Creamback with tubescreamer
Anyone who buys a ri fender instead of vintage for that kinda money is crazy... Theyre garbage, built cheap. Sound great. But i want it built handwired on a turret board
Lol another old dude bringing up age with playing...most famous guitarist are in prime 18-29...age has nothing to do with it...he's got skill and puts in the work...I find so many old guitarist THINK their better because their older..I had an older guy mad that I owned a 1960 Strat when I was 19...said I wasn't old enough to know what was good gear
ass goblin he is absolutely NOT saying that older dudes play better than young ones. Even if that is obviously true, by the way, as nothing replace years of experience.... At the contrary he says that the guy here plays better that he was as the same age. So it was a compliment. Learn to read dude
ass goblin respect this comment! 75% of all the comments people have left on this video are about how i shouldn’t own any of this gear... i worked my ass off to save up for all I own!
I'm about to buy the Princeton right now because of this video thanks! I was on the fence about the Deluxe vs the Princeton. I think the Deluxe would be better for any live shows but I need it primarily for the studio and that thing sounds awesome with the stock speaker! Thanks for making this video :-)
In my opinion this video is one of the better videos with talking. Excellent guitar playing along with a balanced demonstration of both Fender amps. The 65 fender reissue is more beefy and ballzy in my opinion. Please keep up the great work young man. Thanks so much for this video 👍🎸
Aloha Jake! I remember watching this video some time ago and wanted to come back to it. Notice I said some time ago....you made an impression on me that I had to search for this one video. Excellent playing Braddah! Mahalo nui loa for sharing your time in providing this demo!
I was all excited about the Deluxe but this video really shines a light on the Princeton; I think it might have a nicer sound overall for a few bucks less. Great demo!
I’ve got both. The Princeton is killer for home playing but does not have the clean headroom to run a pedal board much passed volume at 6 with the amp really breaking up. Sometimes it good, sometimes you need more headroom/volume.
It absolutely does. I’ve got both and they’re great, but the Princeton just doesn’t have the headroom for volume or to run a pedal board through without the amp running out of ability to handle much of a venue.
I love my DRRi with it’s 12 inch speaker. But I would also in the absence of my DRRi be totally happy using a Princeton as both sound fantastic. I mean if Mike Campbell is happy with a Princeton what an endorsement that is!
I own both. I use the Princeton about 4 times as often as I use the Deluxe. Obviously, if I was only buying one amp, the Princeton wins, hands down. The ratio would be true when compared to the frequency of use for my other amps, too. Overall, I use my Princeton 50% of the time. My other amps are 2012 VoxAC15c, 2008 Fender Blues Jr in blonde, 2015 Fender Vaporizer in Seafoam (for fun!), 1968 Univox - about 40 watts (bassman clone), - and the previously mentioned Deluxe and Princeton RIs. Small amps rock!
great demo .. picking up guitar again (played a bit way back in highschool)and i just put some money down on a limited edition 65' deluxe reverb (western tooled) with the wheat speaker grate !!!! CANT WAIT
Just wanted to sincerely compliment your absolutely excellent playing and feel!! Some really tasty bends and rhythmic placement there - I'd love to hear you with a band
65 Blackface Fender Princeton Reverb - the most perfect guitar amp ever made. Got-one, love it . . . available Tones: SRV, Gilmour, Hendrix, Trower, Knopfler, & Nile Rodgers. Phenomenal amplifier. Enjoyed your demo & playing. oNe LovE from NYC
First time seeing this and I’m glad I stopped by kid! Fantastic demonstration, tone and playing! Many extra points for putting them through the same cabinet with same speaker. Awesome!
Have always wanted a Deluxe Reverb, but think I may just have to get the Princeton. Already own a heavily modded Blues Deluxe Reissue that handles all my glassy clean gigging needs, and what I really need is a smaller amp that can be pushed to saturation in the home without going deaf. Thinking the Deluxe Reverb will feel too powerful for that.
Thanks for the Demo. This is exactly what I was looking for. I used a 69 Fender Super Reverb for over 30 years. As I get older , it is too much to lug around and is more power than I need. So I got the RI Deluxe Reverb. Sounds great, not 69 Super Reverb great, but great enough. I need to lighten the load again and wanted to see if the Princeton at 28 lbs would better suit me in the "lug it around" dept. I think it will.
Very well done. I have a 72 deluxe in the shop right now I play all the time but I was looking at the Princeton. I also really appreciate that you put in some jazz chords. Most demonstrations just involve power cords and some pentatonic shredding. You got talent young man. Also an adorable dog
I have a real authentic original 1965 Princeton reverb. When the cabinet rotted out, I built a head cabinet for it. I use two speaker cabinets normally, usually together. I use a 12-inch EV speaker in one and a 10 inch Eminence signature George Alessandro vintage voiced speaker in the other cabinet. I own 16 different guitars of all types.....and over 30 pedals.... I HAVE NEVER NEEDED OR WANTED ANY OTHER AMP IN 45 YEARS.
The Deluxe seems to have a more mid focused and smoother tone, more akin to my Ceristone OTS mini (Dumble clone) amp, so I lean towards that tone. The Princeton sounds great but as the more traditional scooped blackface tone. Both great but different.
To me the Princeton has a clarity the deluxe doesn't have. It just has a better overall sound quality, seems more expressive and sensitive to picking force. I've owned both these amps, currently a tweed Princeton with the Cannabis Rex 12" speaker. I think either one is as good as it gets for true tone and also reverb. If the Princeton is a Class A amp it's news to me. It's my understanding A-B amps cancel out even harmonics and could explain the difference if true?
No, the Princeton is not “class a” The brightness you notice with the deluxe is due to the bright cap on the volume knob. The flubby low end on the Princeton is not due to the 10” speaker (10” speakers are by nature TIGHTER), the flubby low end is due to the phase inverter design difference in the amps
Awesome demo. I've been offered both of them for exactly the same prize. P is in Tweed, D with a 12" speaker. Having listened to this, I'll go for the Prince, I guess it's more versatile for Jazz/Blues.
Not watching video, just listening to the amps. You did a very nice job of going through each amp’s own characteristics. Went back and actually watched it the second time, mainly to watch YOU play. Very well done indeed!
Hi Jake, I enjoyed your video. I believe I have decided on the Princeton, I will be building the Mojotone kit. Did you prefer the 10 in speaker or the 12? I appreciate your feedback.
That's a really good demo video of these 2 beautiful amps!! Very comprehensive and clear (although sometimes i can't hear what youre saying lol). Real nice and ballzy playing right there! Now, I still can't dicide which one i like the best; for the cleans I am more inclined for the Princeton and it's clarity, but for the hard pushed tones, man, the Deluxe is a killer!
Watched this video expecting you as a young lad in your home to give some average leveled review. Nah you actually did a hell of a job, really enjoyed the video. Thanks man!
They’re both damn great. I think the ultimate medium is a Princeton with a 12 inch speaker. can’t go wrong with either one but I’d you need one then I’d get the deluxe to keep you safe if you end up doing larger gigs
Markonefifteen the deluxe is just that tiny bit louder,. My rig right now is my princeton into an Eminence EM12. Id look up the EM12.. it is very funny to put into a princeton! The dang speaker is basically the size of the amp! But whoa.. the clean tones
Since when is the Princeton Class A ? It is exactly the same circuits as the Deluxe reverb. The only differences are. A bright cap on the bright Channel of the DR , Tremelo with photocell on the DR, the Speaker and the Power transformer. There where de Princeton has no bright cap, and the tremelo on the power tubes. Both are class AB Sir, except if somebody has modded it. The Princeton can play even loud or louder then the DR when it should have the same speaker. It also has only 4 pre-amp tubes there where the Deluxe has 6. I have 3 Princeton, and at 3 on the volume pot it plays already loud.
Correction. There is only 1 channel on a Princeton reverb. There are 2 inputs with the first input about 3db louder than the second. Deluxe has 2 channels. Nice review. Nice playing. Both are AB class ( push-pull). Vibro Champ is class A.
Thanks. Just bought a DRRI; thinking about a different speaker... I'll checkout the Creamback and 'maybe' a Neo Creamback (less weight for this old dude). The Princeton sounds remarkably good (I never auditioned because I thought it wouldn't have enough headroom) and could easily give me a similar sound (with less weight) at most small venues. So thanks again :-)
Thanks for vid. I"m trying to decide whether to go Princeton, or Deluxe at the moment, so this is really helping me to clear up my thoughts. My head says the Princeton is the most sensible option because I'm mainly playing at home for my own pleasure. But when I've demoed them in the shop the Deluxe has the sound and response I want, i think the low end is where the big difference is. Even though the Deluxe is 22w and I read lots of comments about it's 'wall shaking' volume, it doesn't sound as loud to me as my Wem Dominator did (15w), and I used to get away with cranking that thing on Weekends in my flat, without complaints ;) It was also really useful to hear the Princeton through a 12inch speaker. I've heard some other demo's of Princeton's that come with a 12inch speaker (stock) and they sound better to me than the 10inch, it got me all confused ;P. But hearing them side by side is helpful. I think it's going to have to be Deluxe, the saggy low end response of the Princeton just isn't what i'm looking for. Tasty playing as well my friend ;)
Toby thank you! Glad you enjoyed my video. Both amps are amazing amps! Both have their perks and downsides. I have to say, my rig right now is my Princeton going into an Eminence EM12. A lot of the princeton sag is due to that 10in speaker it comes with (low power handling) the EM12 handles something crazy like 250 watts. Very clean sound! You can hear my princeton on my most recent posts
I had the delux reverb. I used a tube screamer with it and a Roland delay peddle. It was the best amp I’ve ever heard. Nothing better. Became very versatile with those two peddles. Great amp. Played with that amp for 10 years in an indie band. it was a wonderful amp.
very thorough reviews. good job. having owned both (i still have the prri 65), the tone stack was definitely more mid-focused on the drri. thanks for pointing out the differences in the tremolo circuits. it's quite glorious on the drri, but seriously lacks on the prri. all things considered, i chose to keep the princeton. i don't gig much. i mainly just home record. the pr was always a favorite for recording, and the ri still delivers in that department. good job, buddy!
The tone Stacks are identical according to the schematics. The majority of the tonal differences are from the speaker. The other differences in tone probably are because the deluxe has more gain stages. Other than that the circuits are pretty similar they even use the same Transformers. The deluxe has a choke but I wouldn't think that would make a difference in the tone. The reason the vibrato sounds different is because the vibrato circuits are different. The deluxe uses a Optoisolator in the vibrato circuit.
Holy moly... that's all I got to say. I' be curious to see how the Deluxe compares to the new '64 handwired Deluxe. Have you had a chance to test it or compare the 2? Fantastic comparison video man!
Great demo - many thanks! Really good to hear them with the Celestion Creamback - think the stock speaker sounds better in both instances. The Creamback better suited to British voiced gear, imho.
Sick review mate, and awesone playing aswell. How can you handle having the amps past volume 3? My ears would be ringing and screaming at me for days mate.
Wonderful video! Can you tell me - How high do you have to set the DRRI to sound comparably loud as the PRRI at volume setting 4-5? The PRRI at 4-5 sounds great, and as far as I remember, the DRRI needs to be at at least 3 to sound good. Here in Norway, I've never had the chance to try them both at the same time. English is my second language, hope my question is clear enough. Keep up the good work! :)
I had a Drri with the bright cap mod, and a Cannibas Rex Speaker, and I have a Prri. I kept the Prri., and modded it with a 12 in. Speaker and a Heyboer OT.
Very nice Demo! I want one of those amps but couldn't decide which one. I was leaning toward the Deluxe but it would be primarily for home use so I think I would benefit more from the Princeton. They both sound great but the Deluxe would just get to loud. I want to get some good overdrive without the neighbors calling the cops. I have an 97 fender american standard strat and a boss blues driver pedal that I think would be a nice fit. Maybe I should look into a tube screamer. Thoughts?
I heard that the original 1968 Princeton reverb amp that has the silver face but it is still a black face circuitry is the best of the Princeton Reverb amps. Is that so? The drip edge
It seems that the speaker and cabinet size really has an impact on the sound of these two amps. You can still har the difference when put through the same cabinet, but the sound is much closer.
Great demo Jake 👍 Curious mate.. At 22:30 what is the gain and tone on tubescreamer set at? I have a DRR and today as it happens now have a Creamback G12H 75 in it. It sounds so good.
Here are the time stamps -
0:15 - Introduction
1:51 - Deluxe reverb clean
4:05 - Deluxe reverb pushed clean
5:00 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD without tube screamer
5:17 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD with Tube Screamer Neck pup
5:33 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD with Tube Screamer Middle Pickup
5:56 - Hard pushed Deluxe into OD with Tube Screamer Bridge Pickup
7:33 - Princeton reverb clean
9:23 - Princeton pushed Clean
13:07 - Hard Pushed Princeton without tube screamer
10:22 - Princeton hard push with tube screamer
15:08 - Princeton and creamback
16:50 - Princeton pushed clean + Creamback
17:34 - Hard Overdriven Princeton + Creamback no tubescreamer
17:53 - Hard Overdriven Princeton + Creamback with tubescreamer
20:02 - Deluxe + Creamback Clean
21:10 - Pushed Deluxe + Creamback
21:50 - Hard Pushed Deluxe + Creamback no tubescreamer
22:24 - Hard Pushed Deluxe + Creamback with tubescreamer
Man you can play! You've earned yourself a new subscriber!!!
On your PRRI you might consider a P10Q ALniCO. Made in heaven🙏🔑✌️
To Fender - We know you're watching.. send this guy money. What an excellent demo!
That would be awesome!!! @fender
The kid is playing a $3500 guitar and has two $1,200 amps--not sure he needs the money lol.
Anyone who buys a ri fender instead of vintage for that kinda money is crazy... Theyre garbage, built cheap. Sound great. But i want it built handwired on a turret board
@@patrickrosington1174 lol
@@patrickrosington1174 Anyone who buys a reasonable condition vintage for that kinda money found the steal of a lifetime.
For a young guy you play with a maturity and feel beyond your years.....very good demonstration. I really like your playing.
Yeah, but lads now have the world-wide internet to learn from, plus they aren't smoking pot all day long like we old guys were at that age...
Lol another old dude bringing up age with playing...most famous guitarist are in prime 18-29...age has nothing to do with it...he's got skill and puts in the work...I find so many old guitarist THINK their better because their older..I had an older guy mad that I owned a 1960 Strat when I was 19...said I wasn't old enough to know what was good gear
@@daveywiles6412 you will be old some day. You should learn to respect your elders.
ass goblin he is absolutely NOT saying that older dudes play better than young ones. Even if that is obviously true, by the way, as nothing replace years of experience.... At the contrary he says that the guy here plays better that he was as the same age. So it was a compliment. Learn to read dude
ass goblin respect this comment! 75% of all the comments people have left on this video are about how i shouldn’t own any of this gear... i worked my ass off to save up for all I own!
I'm about to buy the Princeton right now because of this video thanks! I was on the fence about the Deluxe vs the Princeton. I think the Deluxe would be better for any live shows but I need it primarily for the studio and that thing sounds awesome with the stock speaker! Thanks for making this video :-)
In my opinion this video is one of the better videos with talking. Excellent guitar playing along with a balanced demonstration of both Fender amps. The 65 fender reissue is more beefy and ballzy in my opinion. Please keep up the great work young man. Thanks so much for this video 👍🎸
Aloha Jake!
I remember watching this video some time ago and wanted to come back to it. Notice I said some time ago....you made an impression on me that I had to search for this one video. Excellent playing Braddah! Mahalo nui loa for sharing your time in providing this demo!
I was all excited about the Deluxe but this video really shines a light on the Princeton; I think it might have a nicer sound overall for a few bucks less. Great demo!
I’ve got both. The Princeton is killer for home playing but does not have the clean headroom to run a pedal board much passed volume at 6 with the amp really breaking up. Sometimes it good, sometimes you need more headroom/volume.
I think the Deluxe sounds way better pushed with the 12” speaker. Love those Princeton cleans though applied to jazz tones.
It absolutely does. I’ve got both and they’re great, but the Princeton just doesn’t have the headroom for volume or to run a pedal board through without the amp running out of ability to handle much of a venue.
I love my DRRi with it’s 12 inch speaker. But I would also in the absence of my DRRi be totally happy using a Princeton as both sound fantastic. I mean if Mike Campbell is happy with a Princeton what an endorsement that is!
is mikes clean tone just a princeton? i know this was 3 years ago lol thanks
Deluxe for the reverb / Princeton for the early braking up and the tone, usable in all situations !
I own both. I use the Princeton about 4 times as often as I use the Deluxe. Obviously, if I was only buying one amp, the Princeton wins, hands down. The ratio would be true when compared to the frequency of use for my other amps, too.
Overall, I use my Princeton 50% of the time. My other amps are 2012 VoxAC15c, 2008 Fender Blues Jr in blonde, 2015 Fender Vaporizer in Seafoam (for fun!), 1968 Univox - about 40 watts (bassman clone), - and the previously mentioned Deluxe and Princeton RIs.
Small amps rock!
Cherry Picker Guitars same here!! My princeton is the perfect size and volume for just about everything!
I don’t know why, but since I started playing guitar I tend to prefer 10 inch speakers.
great demo .. picking up guitar again (played a bit way back in highschool)and i just put some money down on a limited edition 65' deluxe reverb (western tooled) with the wheat speaker grate !!!! CANT WAIT
got the amp now awaiting my local shop to get my 2019 pro strat maple neck and board in olympic white !!! should arrive this week!
Just wanted to sincerely compliment your absolutely excellent playing and feel!! Some really tasty bends and rhythmic placement there - I'd love to hear you with a band
65 Blackface Fender Princeton Reverb - the most perfect guitar amp ever made. Got-one, love it . . . available Tones: SRV, Gilmour, Hendrix, Trower, Knopfler, & Nile Rodgers. Phenomenal amplifier. Enjoyed your demo & playing. oNe LovE from NYC
Dude, you did an awesome job. Everything about this video is excellent. Fantastic playing, too.
Coming back to this video every 9-12 months to check if it was as good as I remembered it to be. And yes, it's that good. 🤪
What a great demo! You didn’t leave a stone unturned. I think I’ll have the Princeton please. Well done mate.
First time seeing this and I’m glad I stopped by kid! Fantastic demonstration, tone and playing! Many extra points for putting them through the same cabinet with same speaker. Awesome!
Have always wanted a Deluxe Reverb, but think I may just have to get the Princeton. Already own a heavily modded Blues Deluxe Reissue that handles all my glassy clean gigging needs, and what I really need is a smaller amp that can be pushed to saturation in the home without going deaf. Thinking the Deluxe Reverb will feel too powerful for that.
Love how you put the Celestion speaker in for comparison. I like the midrange it gives over the Jensen.
Both great amps with a lot of history behind them. Guitar players need both. Great job with your demo.
clean tone on the princeton was insane, also great playing
Thanks for the Demo. This is exactly what I was looking for. I used a 69 Fender Super Reverb for over 30 years. As I get older , it is too much to lug around and is more power than I need. So I got the RI Deluxe Reverb. Sounds great, not 69 Super Reverb great, but great enough. I need to lighten the load again and wanted to see if the Princeton at 28 lbs would better suit me in the "lug it around" dept. I think it will.
I always thought about wheight. It’s important to take care of spine haha
Very well done. I have a 72 deluxe in the shop right now I play all the time but I was looking at the Princeton.
I also really appreciate that you put in some jazz chords. Most demonstrations just involve power cords and some pentatonic shredding. You got talent young man.
Also an adorable dog
This is a great demo, but the Princeton is an AB, push pull, amp too man. It mainly just has a smaller output transformer and smaller speaker.
LOL. This did NOT help me decide which one I want to buy, Just made me want BOTH!! HA ha.
Princeton absolutely but with the 12 inch speaker. I couldn’t use it with the 10 for my purposes.
I have a real authentic original 1965 Princeton reverb. When the cabinet rotted out, I built a head cabinet for it. I use two speaker cabinets normally, usually together.
I use a 12-inch EV speaker in one and a 10 inch Eminence signature George Alessandro vintage voiced speaker in the other cabinet. I own 16 different guitars of all types.....and over 30 pedals....
I HAVE NEVER NEEDED OR WANTED ANY OTHER AMP IN 45 YEARS.
The Deluxe seems to have a more mid focused and smoother tone, more akin to my Ceristone OTS mini (Dumble clone) amp, so I lean towards that tone. The Princeton sounds great but as the more traditional scooped blackface tone. Both great but different.
To me the Princeton has a clarity the deluxe doesn't have. It just has a better overall sound quality, seems more expressive and sensitive to picking force. I've owned both these amps, currently a tweed Princeton with the Cannabis Rex 12" speaker. I think either one is as good as it gets for true tone and also reverb. If the Princeton is a Class A amp it's news to me. It's my understanding A-B amps cancel out even harmonics and could explain the difference if true?
Nice comparison👍 Was good to hear a different speaker for the Deluxe and a 12” for the Princeton. Nice playing, too!!
No, the Princeton is not “class a”
The brightness you notice with the deluxe is due to the bright cap on the volume knob.
The flubby low end on the Princeton is not due to the 10” speaker (10” speakers are by nature TIGHTER), the flubby low end is due to the phase inverter design difference in the amps
Awesome demo. I've been offered both of them for exactly the same prize. P is in Tweed, D with a 12" speaker. Having listened to this, I'll go for the Prince, I guess it's more versatile for Jazz/Blues.
Dude. All reviews aside - your playing sick. Glorious buddy. Youre gping places with those skills!
great video Jake, I'm loving the sound of that Creamback in the Deluxe...
Princeton isn't Class A. it's 2 x 6V6's in push pull. that aside, FANTASTIC Demo dude!!!
thats right. i'm curious about the 6w power difference though?
@@phill2840 transformer is smaller
@@samfosdick9874 yeah but that's all?
@@phill2840 pretty much that's all folks
@@phill2840. Deluxe Reverb has 6600 ohm output transformer that gives little more power over the Princeton Reverb that has 8000 ohm.
Fender + Tube Screamer = HOT DAM !
Not watching video, just listening to the amps. You did a very nice job of going through each amp’s own characteristics.
Went back and actually watched it the second time, mainly to watch YOU play. Very well done indeed!
That Creamback is special! Wow!
Hi Jake, I enjoyed your video. I believe I have decided on the Princeton, I will be building the Mojotone kit. Did you prefer the 10 in speaker or the 12? I appreciate your feedback.
That's a really good demo video of these 2 beautiful amps!! Very comprehensive and clear (although sometimes i can't hear what youre saying lol). Real nice and ballzy playing right there! Now, I still can't dicide which one i like the best; for the cleans I am more inclined for the Princeton and it's clarity, but for the hard pushed tones, man, the Deluxe is a killer!
Holy crap man! You sure can play! That was awesome! Loved both amps..
Watched this video expecting you as a young lad in your home to give some average leveled review. Nah you actually did a hell of a job, really enjoyed the video. Thanks man!
Great demo and playing. Excellent adding the Celestion option. Dog and family stuff adds good vibes, more. Good job
So, you're like really good a stuff. Great demo.
Thank you!
Great video. Please tell me Jake what the SRV song you are playing that sounds so great?????? When you say: "here are some clean chords"
They’re both damn great. I think the ultimate medium is a Princeton with a 12 inch speaker. can’t go wrong with either one but I’d you need one then I’d get the deluxe to keep you safe if you end up doing larger gigs
Markonefifteen the deluxe is just that tiny bit louder,. My rig right now is my princeton into an Eminence EM12. Id look up the EM12.. it is very funny to put into a princeton! The dang speaker is basically the size of the amp! But whoa.. the clean tones
You gave a lot of attention to clean sounds and for that, I like
Good ol Ryder Green! Amazing demo dude! Sold me on the Princeton with the creamback.
Diggin that Princeton clean tone. Add a source audio collider reverb/delay. Lush for days.
This is a brilliant demo/review! Fine job, great tone, and killer licks!
Since when is the Princeton Class A ? It is exactly the same circuits as the Deluxe reverb.
The only differences are. A bright cap on the bright Channel of the DR , Tremelo with photocell on the DR, the Speaker and the Power transformer. There where de Princeton has no bright cap, and the tremelo on the power tubes. Both are class AB Sir, except if somebody has modded it.
The Princeton can play even loud or louder then the DR when it should have the same speaker. It also has only 4 pre-amp tubes there where the Deluxe has 6. I have 3 Princeton, and at 3 on the volume pot it plays already loud.
Correction. There is only 1 channel on a Princeton reverb. There are 2 inputs with the first input about 3db louder than the second. Deluxe has 2 channels. Nice review. Nice playing. Both are AB class ( push-pull). Vibro Champ is class A.
was gonna say this.
You are correct, both amps are class AB (Push-Pull)
Thanks. Just bought a DRRI; thinking about a different speaker... I'll checkout the Creamback and 'maybe' a Neo Creamback (less weight for this old dude). The Princeton sounds remarkably good (I never auditioned because I thought it wouldn't have enough headroom) and could easily give me a similar sound (with less weight) at most small venues. So thanks again :-)
Mike Sadler so glad to hear that!
This demo is well done Thank you! Which do you prefer?
Thanks for the time stamps. Great demo!
Thanks for vid. I"m trying to decide whether to go Princeton, or Deluxe at the moment, so this is really helping me to clear up my thoughts.
My head says the Princeton is the most sensible option because I'm mainly playing at home for my own pleasure. But when I've demoed them in the shop the Deluxe has the sound and response I want, i think the low end is where the big difference is. Even though the Deluxe is 22w and I read lots of comments about it's 'wall shaking' volume, it doesn't sound as loud to me as my Wem Dominator did (15w), and I used to get away with cranking that thing on Weekends in my flat, without complaints ;)
It was also really useful to hear the Princeton through a 12inch speaker. I've heard some other demo's of Princeton's that come with a 12inch speaker (stock) and they sound better to me than the 10inch, it got me all confused ;P. But hearing them side by side is helpful.
I think it's going to have to be Deluxe, the saggy low end response of the Princeton just isn't what i'm looking for.
Tasty playing as well my friend ;)
Toby thank you! Glad you enjoyed my video. Both amps are amazing amps! Both have their perks and downsides. I have to say, my rig right now is my Princeton going into an Eminence EM12. A lot of the princeton sag is due to that 10in speaker it comes with (low power handling) the EM12 handles something crazy like 250 watts. Very clean sound! You can hear my princeton on my most recent posts
Awesome job on the review. Absolutely enjoyed your playing there. That slow chord sequence was quite nice
a great review.. very thorough with some really cool playing & a first class selection of guitar face. thanks..
Incredible playing man! Which one would you recommend for home use? Although I still play quite loud.
Great review! The best I’ve seen. Great playing!
Damn good review! My favorite amp that I play through is a ‘65 reissue Deluxe Reverb.... clean as an operating room.
Great video! Nice work! Which one do you prefer Jake?
I had the delux reverb. I used a tube screamer with it and a Roland delay peddle. It was the best amp I’ve ever heard. Nothing better. Became very versatile with those two peddles. Great amp. Played with that amp for 10 years in an indie band. it was a wonderful amp.
was?
Great demo, great playing.. Thank You
Oh wow Jake, this is awesome!
My dog loves music like yours! She would literally sit at the free of my drummer during rehearsals! She was a huge fender fan Also!
How have I just discovered you?! Dude! You’re awesome. Two of my favorite amps.
Excellent demo! Covers everything I was wondering about the two. Thoughts on the 65 Princeton vs the 68 Custom Princeton?
great tone great plyaing great demo THANKS DUDE
very thorough reviews. good job. having owned both (i still have the prri 65), the tone stack was definitely more mid-focused on the drri. thanks for pointing out the differences in the tremolo circuits. it's quite glorious on the drri, but seriously lacks on the prri.
all things considered, i chose to keep the princeton. i don't gig much. i mainly just home record. the pr was always a favorite for recording, and the ri still delivers in that department.
good job, buddy!
The tone Stacks are identical according to the schematics. The majority of the tonal differences are from the speaker. The other differences in tone probably are because the deluxe has more gain stages. Other than that the circuits are pretty similar they even use the same Transformers. The deluxe has a choke but I wouldn't think that would make a difference in the tone. The reason the vibrato sounds different is because the vibrato circuits are different. The deluxe uses a Optoisolator in the vibrato circuit.
Holy moly... that's all I got to say. I' be curious to see how the Deluxe compares to the new '64 handwired Deluxe. Have you had a chance to test it or compare the 2? Fantastic comparison video man!
Was seriously considering a Princeton, but the Deluxe sounds way better to me. Dang. Nice video.
Great playing Jake!
Excellent review, great, tasty playing. Nicely done.
Guitar face on par with John Mayer, great demo!
Great demo - many thanks! Really good to hear them with the Celestion Creamback - think the stock speaker sounds better in both instances. The Creamback better suited to British voiced gear, imho.
Awesome video Jake! You’re the man
Great head to head, and awesome playing, sir.
Sick review mate, and awesone playing aswell.
How can you handle having the amps past volume 3? My ears would be ringing and screaming at me for days mate.
Alexander Torsvik Dale perks of a big room
To play these amps!
Great video. Great playing. They both sound awesome.
Wonderful video!
Can you tell me - How high do you have to set the DRRI to sound comparably loud as the PRRI at volume setting 4-5? The PRRI at 4-5 sounds great, and as far as I remember, the DRRI needs to be at at least 3 to sound good.
Here in Norway, I've never had the chance to try them both at the same time. English is my second language, hope my question is clear enough. Keep up the good work! :)
I had a Drri with the bright cap mod, and a Cannibas Rex Speaker, and I have a Prri. I kept the Prri., and modded it with a 12 in. Speaker and a Heyboer OT.
Nice work! How do you feel about ur Mark Foley pup? I heard that one is faithful replica of vintage pup
One of the best Strat tones I've ever heard. Thanks for turning me on to SVL, never heard of them before. Did you build that Strat custom?
cmon....
Creamback in the deluxe. All day long! Best tone from a production amp
Nice review man. Good playing
Grey Murdock thank you very much!
Great demo. Went to the music shop yesterday and I'm currently deciding between these two! I really don't know which one to get 😂🤘
Did you end up getting one?
is the hiss in the background coming from the amps? How do you removed from the records? Or is non capture by the mic? Thanks
Beautiful sounds! Thanks!
Hi Jake, beautiful playing and what a nice guitar. Do you find either to have that ice picking at higher registers as the deluxe hot rods ?
Great demo and amazing play!! I vote PRRI + Creamback. What kind of pick should you use?
derekt thank you!! I was using a Dunlop Nylon 1mm. Usually i use the Ultex ultra 1mms
Very nice Demo! I want one of those amps but couldn't decide which one. I was leaning toward the Deluxe but it would be primarily for home use so I think I would benefit more from the Princeton. They both sound great but the Deluxe would just get to loud. I want to get some good overdrive without the neighbors calling the cops. I have an 97 fender american standard strat and a boss blues driver pedal that I think would be a nice fit. Maybe I should look into a tube screamer. Thoughts?
Great demo, bro!
I heard that the original 1968 Princeton reverb amp that has the silver face but it is still a black face circuitry is the best of the Princeton Reverb amps. Is that so? The drip edge
It seems that the speaker and cabinet size really has an impact on the sound of these two amps. You can still har the difference when put through the same cabinet, but the sound is much closer.
Luke Hearn absolutely!! Amps sound totally different based on the speaker.. almost like a new amp!
Well done dude. I'm going with the '65 Deluxe Reverb very soon.
Great demo Jake 👍
Curious mate.. At 22:30 what is the gain and tone on tubescreamer set at?
I have a DRR and today as it happens now have a Creamback G12H 75 in it. It sounds so good.
Wish I could find Fender on Fender demos that DON'T sound like SRV ...
4:12 totally sold me on purchasing this amp.