Hi. Love the vid, so thanks for posting. Just a few comments. I lived in SW Africa (Namibia and Angola) for several years and used a mosquito net most nights. But, to be effective you should really wash them in something like DEET regularly. This is because the mossies WILL land on the outside, and if you touch the side, as is likely to happen in your sleep, they will bite you through it. The other effective (for me) method of deterring insect bites- especially midges in Scotland and the north of England -is Avon Skin So Softly. . I know this is now generally known, but it's worth a mention. It doesn't deter their presence, but it stops them from biting you as the chemical in it dissolves their mouth parts!! (it's designed to dissolve your outer dermal layer and so renders the skin soft). When possible I tend to stay away from DEET on my skin directly having once had a batch 'melt' a plastic watch strap!.
I think a lot of mosquito nets are treated with permethrin now so if the little bugger lie in wait on the net that should finish the buggers off hopefully! Not sure how long Deet lasts on fabrics, but I know if you treat yourself with permethrin should be good for 6 weeks.
In theory that could work. But in practice, my experience of sleeping under nets for 5 years while working in southern Angola/northern Namibia, is that even one net, in the tropics, stifles the air flow and makes for an uncomfortable sleep when it's very humid, especially during the rainy seasons (when mossies are worse). Two nets would (for me) be unbearably hot. @@ijahtom
To test these tips, go camping in Scotland in Summer! Mosquitos love me, especially in SE Asia, midges, annoying but I was brought up in Scotland so dont react too badly, certainly prefer camping in Wales to Scotland as much less insects, Ticks got to take very seriously, a friend has been very ill since a Tick bite, check yourself regularly for Ticks, especially anywhere where there is sheep or deer, its fun to bivy out, but tbh, when ticks about I use a hammock or tent for that reason, all of them and tarps sprayed with permethrin too, a final wee hint, many of the insects are attracted to CO2 from your breath, so drinking beer around a campsite makes you a bigger target, drink wine instead, Avon Skin so soft, is also a cheap Mossie repellent.
@@dogdadoutdoors try around the Galloway Forest, a huge expanse of the Country that nobody goes to, Wild Camping allowed and just over the Border from England.
Dog Dad, I am just the same - certain insect bites are dreadful go sceptic and take months to heal sometimes. And your comment on wasps made me laugh! So so true. I am just unsure about stuff like pyrethrin as my dogs are big snugglers!
Should be OK Sue, read up on it yourself as I am just some bloke off tinternet but I found this link which suggests it's OK. www.sawyer.com/page/dogs-and-permethrin-insect-repellent
You need to see that diagram of the wasp where the different body sections have been renamed from head thorax & abdomen to ; ' hate' - ' spite' - ' malice ' ! Lol
I should point out that Permethin can be absorbed through the skin. Long exposure can result in skin rashes, itching, redness, or tingling (pins and needles). It can irritate the throat, nose, and lungs. It is important for people to know that Permethin is not a good idea to have on clothes. Yes, it will stop bites, but so will a non Permethin spray. Rubbing the herb Rosemary over your clothes will also prevent bites from mosquitos and ticks.
@bonaria Blackie, in saying Permethrin is not a good idea to have on clothes you are expressing a personal opinion that goes against official advice, can you provide any evidence to support your opinion? Remember US and UK military wear permethrin-treated uniforms long term. The United States Environmental Protection Agency believes Permethrin is safe: www.epa.gov/insect-repellents/repellent-treated-clothing#:~:text=Safety%20of%20Permethrin%20in%20Factory%2DTreated%20Clothing,-When%20evaluating%20these&text=The%20amount%20of%20permethrin%20allowed,treated%20clothing%20also%20is%20low. Permethrin treated clothing is also recommended by the UK Government: www.gov.uk/government/publications/mosquito-bite-avoidance-for-travellers/mosquito-bite-avoidance-advice-for-travellers--2 And the Australian Government: www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-11/prevention-of-tick-bites-in-australia_0.pdf
Had a dog go into seizures with permethrin and almost lost her so it's banned from our household. I've had great success with pure Citronella oil for ticks. I put it straight on my shoes & clothes and mix the pure oil with my favorite lotion. Lemon eucalptus mixed in works pretty good on mosquitoes.
I live in Florida and always have repels eucalyptus and lemon with me, Ive seen it protect an infant on the mosquito lagoon at dusk, there was literally a dome around the baby carrier. combined with the permethrin you mentioned on clothing and mesh very few insects bother me. I use the repel on me and on a rag or cotton balls around "camp" the mini vampires hate the smell
Our neighbour was so unpopular that even biting insects used to stay away from him. No joke. He ate normally, no bug spray they just kept away from him.
Very useful video (as always). I think woodsmoke also keeps the little blighters away - trouble is you end up smelling like a bonfire. This must be the chemicals in smoke and mozzies must be 'non-smokers'. ho-ho, joke.
Thanks, had never really looked into this. I'm gutted that I bought some of the Ultrathon at the bushcraft show for £4 a tube, wish I had bought a few more now. Ordered some pemethrin spray too, it's no fun finding you've been bitten through clothing when it can be prevented.
I've had good luck with picaridin in lotion form. Also it will not mar or dissolve plastics like deet will. As for permethrin, someone else suggested storing your treated clothing in a plastic bag for 24 to 48 hours prior to wearing them so that the application can work its way into the material. Good stuff
@@phillipbrotheridge7740 you might want to try the pure essential oil of citronella. Make sure to get the real essential oil. I take a palm full of my regular lotion and shake quite a few drops of the oil on top, mix in my hands and rub the lotion everywhere on bare skin. I also rub the plain oil onto my shoes & clothes. The smell is somewhat citrus-y and some really like it almost as a cologne. For me, it's certainly better than any commercial spray. The ticks absolutely hate it. And it helps a lot with mosquitoes. Some dogs may find it a bit irritating to their noses I went hiking with a friend recently. I used the citronella oil heavily on my boots, pants and around my neck & collar, wrists, belt and hat. Before we got back in the car after hiking, he picked off over 40 while I couldn't find one.
I lived for many years in Texas. Lying on the lawn looking up at the stars after drunkenly falling there was a thing of the past! When I was a boy in England, I had heard of ticks, but never saw, or bitten by them. Indeed I knew of no one that had either. I am guessing they found their way to England by way of dinghy across the English Channel.
Hi, tnx for the video and info, I looked for permethrin but I learned that it is baned in the EU, including UK and Ireland, do you know where I can get my hands on or something similar and as strong? Please, tnx
Hi Abed, it isn't banned by the EU and UK per se, it is banned for the purpose of plant protection, namely in agriculture where the farmer would be exposed to hundreds of thousands of litres and you would eventually consume the plant. For clothing you can buy it quite legally, I bought my last bottle from Decathlon on the high Street, but you can also buy from go outdoors and many other camping shops or online under the product 'lifesystems Ex4'. Hope that helps.
In SE Texas, no matter how much DEET you put on or any other precautions you take, you WILL be eaten alive during the swarming seasons (multiple). Clothes won’t hold Texas mosquitoes at bay, they will bite you through body armor. Mosquito spray is a minor inconvenience for the flying vampires. 😂 The best defense is to behind closed doors in the morning and evening, and travel fast so that they can’t keep up (bike).
Horseflies are a nightmare, those things can bite through chainmail lol. OK maybe not but those insects are the main ones that attack me by biting me on the belly and shoulders through my hiking tops. I don't even feel it happening until later when it starts itching.
@@dogdadoutdoors There is a woodland and field I used to walk through to get to Cogra Moss in the west of the Lake District. Someone recently bought part of the field, fenced it off and put horses in it. Now you get instantly swarmed with horseflies when there never used to be any. It's so bad it's nigh on impossible to walk through without getting chewed up.
Its a great idea, but there are warnings against it: phc.amedd.army.mil/PHC%20Resource%20Library/PetFleaandTickCollarHazards_FS_18-009-0618.pdf From memory I believe with tick collars they are only effective if the dog is wearing them all of the time as the chemical is slowly released and spreads throughout its coat so I'm not sure how effective it would be, is a great idea though and I can see how you got there!
I’ve never tried it but Vick Vaseline works well at keeping the mozzies away, apparently. Great video by the way. Could you do one on the different bandages you recommend for a first aid kit and what injuries or wounds they are used for.
@@KOL630 Its an insecticide, so never say never but so far it has a good safety record and its been approved by many countries, even for pregnant mothers. I know the US has been issuing pemethrin treated clothing to all new recruits since at least 2013 and with 1.4m active personnel, any major problems should have come to light by now. But the question should not be 'is there a risk' the real question should be 'is the risk it poses less than the risk it mitigates?
Apparently the human race has aprox 6 differant skin types from oily to dry so some oils and creams work better for some people than others Here in the Scottish highlands midges definately dont like people who eat garlic and oils containing eucalypsus rosemary or myttly ie menthol will last longer than areosol because oil sinks into the skin Yes things containing Deet do work but can give a mild form of Toxic shock so best not to use on skin ? but one could apply to jackets and face nets Apart from that smoking a pipe can help which isant going suit everyone My ex wife studied this and i was her guinea pig so have had bit of experiance cutting peat usualy done before midge season but collecting the peats when dry in autumn can be midgy best to collect on a windy day good luck amigos
Thats interesting about skin types, thanks. I've spent a few holidays up in the Cairngorms and midges are definitely a pain up there! Glad we don't have that issue down here or I would go nuts. The biggest issue we really have is actually all the big spiders that come in from the woods this time of year. They don't bite, but I keep having to rescue the rest of the family. I'm not saying we get giant ones, but I've had some after I through them out, I locked the door...
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Hi. Love the vid, so thanks for posting. Just a few comments. I lived in SW Africa (Namibia and Angola) for several years and used a mosquito net most nights. But, to be effective you should really wash them in something like DEET regularly. This is because the mossies WILL land on the outside, and if you touch the side, as is likely to happen in your sleep, they will bite you through it. The other effective (for me) method of deterring insect bites- especially midges in Scotland and the north of England -is Avon Skin So Softly. . I know this is now generally known, but it's worth a mention. It doesn't deter their presence, but it stops them from biting you as the chemical in it dissolves their mouth parts!! (it's designed to dissolve your outer dermal layer and so renders the skin soft). When possible I tend to stay away from DEET on my skin directly having once had a batch 'melt' a plastic watch strap!.
I think a lot of mosquito nets are treated with permethrin now so if the little bugger lie in wait on the net that should finish the buggers off hopefully! Not sure how long Deet lasts on fabrics, but I know if you treat yourself with permethrin should be good for 6 weeks.
The Double Moscito net!
2layer Moscito Net.
Between each net layer is a 30 cm distance.
Solved.
In theory that could work. But in practice, my experience of sleeping under nets for 5 years while working in southern Angola/northern Namibia, is that even one net, in the tropics, stifles the air flow and makes for an uncomfortable sleep when it's very humid, especially during the rainy seasons (when mossies are worse). Two nets would (for me) be unbearably hot. @@ijahtom
I use either Trek Natural spray on or Nordic Summer balm both of which I’ve found really effective. I live in the Highlands!
Love the highlands, hate the midges.
To test these tips, go camping in Scotland in Summer! Mosquitos love me, especially in SE Asia, midges, annoying but I was brought up in Scotland so dont react too badly, certainly prefer camping in Wales to Scotland as much less insects, Ticks got to take very seriously, a friend has been very ill since a Tick bite, check yourself regularly for Ticks, especially anywhere where there is sheep or deer, its fun to bivy out, but tbh, when ticks about I use a hammock or tent for that reason, all of them and tarps sprayed with permethrin too, a final wee hint, many of the insects are attracted to CO2 from your breath, so drinking beer around a campsite makes you a bigger target, drink wine instead, Avon Skin so soft, is also a cheap Mossie repellent.
Been up there hiking a few times, mainly around the cairngorms, a beautiful part of the country.
@@dogdadoutdoors try around the Galloway Forest, a huge expanse of the Country that nobody goes to, Wild Camping allowed and just over the Border from England.
Dog Dad, I am just the same - certain insect bites are dreadful go sceptic and take months to heal sometimes. And your comment on wasps made me laugh! So so true. I am just unsure about stuff like pyrethrin as my dogs are big snugglers!
Should be OK Sue, read up on it yourself as I am just some bloke off tinternet but I found this link which suggests it's OK. www.sawyer.com/page/dogs-and-permethrin-insect-repellent
You need to see that diagram of the wasp where the different body sections have been renamed from head thorax & abdomen to ; ' hate' - ' spite' - ' malice ' ! Lol
Back in the 70's, all I had to worry about were gnats here in Kent/SE London
use Lavender oil... pure one! no damage to skin or expensive gear
and catnip.
Your tips are very good! I have used most of them in Tanzania against Tse-Tse-Flys
Great to hear!
I should point out that Permethin can be absorbed through the skin. Long exposure can result in skin rashes, itching, redness, or tingling (pins and needles). It can irritate the throat, nose, and lungs. It is important for people to know that Permethin is not a good idea to have on clothes. Yes, it will stop bites, but so will a non Permethin spray. Rubbing the herb Rosemary over your clothes will also prevent bites from mosquitos and ticks.
@bonaria Blackie, in saying Permethrin is not a good idea to have on clothes you are expressing a personal opinion that goes against official advice, can you provide any evidence to support your opinion?
Remember US and UK military wear permethrin-treated uniforms long term.
The United States Environmental Protection Agency believes Permethrin is safe:
www.epa.gov/insect-repellents/repellent-treated-clothing#:~:text=Safety%20of%20Permethrin%20in%20Factory%2DTreated%20Clothing,-When%20evaluating%20these&text=The%20amount%20of%20permethrin%20allowed,treated%20clothing%20also%20is%20low.
Permethrin treated clothing is also recommended by the UK Government:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/mosquito-bite-avoidance-for-travellers/mosquito-bite-avoidance-advice-for-travellers--2
And the Australian Government:
www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-11/prevention-of-tick-bites-in-australia_0.pdf
Had a dog go into seizures with permethrin and almost lost her so it's banned from our household.
I've had great success with pure Citronella oil for ticks. I put it straight on my shoes & clothes and mix the pure oil with my favorite lotion.
Lemon eucalptus mixed in works pretty good on mosquitoes.
Try jungle spray no 4 it really good at keeping them away also they do different strengths which is great for kids
Yes, jungle is deet based. Good stuff.
I live in Florida and always have repels eucalyptus and lemon with me, Ive seen it protect an infant on the mosquito lagoon at dusk, there was literally a dome around the baby carrier. combined with the permethrin you mentioned on clothing and mesh very few insects bother me. I use the repel on me and on a rag or cotton balls around "camp" the mini vampires hate the smell
Our neighbour was so unpopular that even biting insects used to stay away from him. No joke. He ate normally, no bug spray they just kept away from him.
Very useful video (as always). I think woodsmoke also keeps the little blighters away - trouble is you end up smelling like a bonfire. This must be the chemicals in smoke and mozzies must be 'non-smokers'. ho-ho, joke.
Great tip!
Fantastic and complete advice, thank you!
You are welcome.
Thanks, had never really looked into this. I'm gutted that I bought some of the Ultrathon at the bushcraft show for £4 a tube, wish I had bought a few more now. Ordered some pemethrin spray too, it's no fun finding you've been bitten through clothing when it can be prevented.
No worries. I managed to procure a box of Ultrathon from our quartermaster before leaving. Still working through it.
I avoid putting repellant on my forehead so that it doesn't sweat down into my eyes.
Yes, I have found that too.
I'm like a mobile five star buffet for everything that bites lol . I wish my blood wasn't like 75 year old Malt to them aye : (
Buggers aren't they? Hope there is something there that helps.
I've had good luck with picaridin in lotion form. Also it will not mar or dissolve plastics like deet will.
As for permethrin, someone else suggested storing your treated clothing in a plastic bag for 24 to 48 hours prior to wearing them so that the application can work its way into the material.
Good stuff
I can see how that works, much like you can spray your shirt, roll up and put in a plastic bag prior to ironing to get all the fibres nice and damp.
Hi do you know if the if picaridin causes problems with eczema. i tend to have problems with deet affecting my eczema. Thanks.
I know its recommended for people with sensitive skin, but not sure about eczema specifically.
@@dogdadoutdoors Thank you
@@phillipbrotheridge7740 you might want to try the pure essential oil of citronella. Make sure to get the real essential oil.
I take a palm full of my regular lotion and shake quite a few drops of the oil on top, mix in my hands and rub the lotion everywhere on bare skin.
I also rub the plain oil onto my shoes & clothes.
The smell is somewhat citrus-y and some really like it almost as a cologne. For me, it's certainly better than any commercial spray.
The ticks absolutely hate it. And it helps a lot with mosquitoes.
Some dogs may find it a bit irritating to their noses
I went hiking with a friend recently. I used the citronella oil heavily on my boots, pants and around my neck & collar, wrists, belt and hat.
Before we got back in the car after hiking, he picked off over 40 while I couldn't find one.
I lived for many years in Texas. Lying on the lawn looking up at the stars after drunkenly falling there was a thing of the past! When I was a boy in England, I had heard of ticks, but never saw, or bitten by them. Indeed I knew of no one that had either. I am guessing they found their way to England by way of dinghy across the English Channel.
Hi, tnx for the video and info, I looked for permethrin but I learned that it is baned in the EU, including UK and Ireland, do you know where I can get my hands on or something similar and as strong? Please, tnx
Hi Abed, it isn't banned by the EU and UK per se, it is banned for the purpose of plant protection, namely in agriculture where the farmer would be exposed to hundreds of thousands of litres and you would eventually consume the plant.
For clothing you can buy it quite legally, I bought my last bottle from Decathlon on the high Street, but you can also buy from go outdoors and many other camping shops or online under the product 'lifesystems Ex4'. Hope that helps.
@@dogdadoutdoors tnx, we have decathlon in Ireland, if not, I'll be in wales next month, I'll get some then, tnx again, very helpful 👍
did you know that flies and mosquitos dont like getting near walnut trees, Juglans regia?
lots of farms here have a walnut tree for that reason.
I didn't know that, thanks for the info, I love learning stuff like that.
Very useful order
In SE Texas, no matter how much DEET you put on or any other precautions you take, you WILL be eaten alive during the swarming seasons (multiple). Clothes won’t hold Texas mosquitoes at bay, they will bite you through body armor. Mosquito spray is a minor inconvenience for the flying vampires. 😂 The best defense is to behind closed doors in the morning and evening, and travel fast so that they can’t keep up (bike).
Is that why Texans are so heavily armed? I'm picturing the film 'Tremors'....:)
@@dogdadoutdoors hahaha!
Horseflies are a nightmare, those things can bite through chainmail lol. OK maybe not but those insects are the main ones that attack me by biting me on the belly and shoulders through my hiking tops. I don't even feel it happening until later when it starts itching.
Yes, they are nasty. Used to get quite a few of them up North when I lived there, I don't seem to see them very often where I am now.
@@dogdadoutdoors There is a woodland and field I used to walk through to get to Cogra Moss in the west of the Lake District. Someone recently bought part of the field, fenced it off and put horses in it. Now you get instantly swarmed with horseflies when there never used to be any. It's so bad it's nigh on impossible to walk through without getting chewed up.
Have you tried Rovince clobber?
Had not heard of them until you mentioned them, any good?
@@dogdadoutdoors I’ve only read reviews.
Wear a tick collar for dogs on bottom of Trowers below the socks and very near the shoes or boots.
Its a great idea, but there are warnings against it:
phc.amedd.army.mil/PHC%20Resource%20Library/PetFleaandTickCollarHazards_FS_18-009-0618.pdf
From memory I believe with tick collars they are only effective if the dog is wearing them all of the time as the chemical is slowly released and spreads throughout its coat so I'm not sure how effective it would be, is a great idea though and I can see how you got there!
Thank you
You're welcome
I’ve never tried it but Vick Vaseline works well at keeping the mozzies away, apparently. Great video by the way. Could you do one on the different bandages you recommend for a first aid kit and what injuries or wounds they are used for.
Thanks for watching, have added your suggestion to the list! (Always great to get ideas, thank you!)
I use viks too .
one of the military tricks is all the uniforms are inpregnated with inscet reppelant that does not wash out
That is the pemethrin, it's good stuff.
@@dogdadoutdoors surely that stuff has to be toxic. Cannot be good for you if you’re using it long term.
@@KOL630 Its an insecticide, so never say never but so far it has a good safety record and its been approved by many countries, even for pregnant mothers. I know the US has been issuing pemethrin treated clothing to all new recruits since at least 2013 and with 1.4m active personnel, any major problems should have come to light by now.
But the question should not be 'is there a risk' the real question should be 'is the risk it poses less than the risk it mitigates?
Apparently the human race has aprox 6 differant skin types from oily to dry so some oils and creams work better for some people than others Here in the Scottish highlands midges definately dont like people who eat garlic and oils containing eucalypsus rosemary or myttly ie menthol will last longer than areosol because oil sinks into the skin Yes things containing Deet do work but can give a mild form of Toxic shock so best not to use on skin ? but one could apply to jackets and face nets Apart from that smoking a pipe can help which isant going suit everyone My ex wife studied this and i was her guinea pig so have had bit of experiance cutting peat usualy done before midge season but collecting the peats when dry in autumn can be midgy best to collect on a windy day good luck amigos
Thats interesting about skin types, thanks. I've spent a few holidays up in the Cairngorms and midges are definitely a pain up there! Glad we don't have that issue down here or I would go nuts. The biggest issue we really have is actually all the big spiders that come in from the woods this time of year. They don't bite, but I keep having to rescue the rest of the family. I'm not saying we get giant ones, but I've had some after I through them out, I locked the door...
brewers yeast
Well you learn something every day, thanks!
Just make friends with them.
so basically, use insect repellent... Come to Manitoba and we'll talk about bugs...
Clothing, insecticide, mosquito nets AND use insect repellent.
This is ridiculous. Don't wash would be my best recommendation. If you don't want to be eaten by midges get in your tent or camper before sun down.
Hey @Ouroboros Irvington, What do you find ridiculous about taking precautions to avoid being bitten by insects?
Dressed to kill